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locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Max NG7M
 

Ron, i would love to see you post a video of you using N1MM Logger+ using a CW Code reader.  In a contest where you are #1, searching and pouncing and #2 where you are running stations.  Show us all how efficient it is.  I begin to wonder if you an run stations with a CW code reader.. not likely at all.

Your comment about posting a decent score is very telling.  It's all about the time you put in, your stations setup, antennas and your skills.  In your video which I would love to see... how many hours will it take for you to get to the same qso count along with the mults.  And in your video, make sure you are multi-tasking and talk about everything you are doing too so others can see exactly how it's done as you stare at the screen and try to devine the decoded text from 5 or more stations calling you as you are running stations.

To your comment about repeating your call over and over... it's about the timing and it's about listening between your call going out.  If I was sending at a slower speed, it would take far more time.  Again, your video of how you do it would be very interesting.  If you have no idea when to send your call because you are staring at a CW code reader because other guys are calling at the same time, how long does it take you to decide when you send your call?

Please, by all means, post a video of how you do it with N1MM... for example in one of the CWT sessions today.  Make a video of you running and pouncing and let us all see how well a CW code reader works.  And for a repeat... ;)   I would love to see it.  Show us all how it's done.

I fully expected to ruffle some feathers... you didn't disappoint.  If you put in the time I have and others have, we wouldn't be having this discussion.  Were you watching me in the mid 90's when I was staying up all night at KO7X's station in Draper Utah (multiple contests working the wee hours of the morning shifts) trying to work stations in EU from Utah and all the while I struggling like crazy to copy those strange EU callsigns?  Hours and hours and hours and it took me a ton of time to learn CW, just like anyone else that has struggled.  Everyone struggles, get over it.  But the ones that don't give up and stick with it have the pay off in the end.

Post that video!  I'm all eyes and ears. :)

Max NG7M

Re: Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

Tom Wagner (N1MM)
 

It's coded for only 4.

Tom

On 11/27/2019 8:05 AM, DD5XX wrote:
Hi Tom,

first of all, thanks for the contacts on CQWW-CW last weekend.

Is there a way to have more than 4 customizeable buttons on that window?

73
Saki, DD5XX

Re: Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

DD5XX
 

Hi Tom,

first of all, thanks for the contacts on CQWW-CW last weekend.

Is there a way to have more than 4 customizeable buttons on that window?

73
Saki, DD5XX

Re: Edit Goals -- Info Window

John Bednar
 

 

Pedro,

 

You changed the goal for a time period that wasn’t current.

 

100    =  day 1, first hour of the contest

101   =  day 1, second hour of the contest

 

If you are looking at the Info window during the first day, 23 hour, the windows display hours 19 to 23. So you would edit rows

119 to 123.

 

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/manual-windows/info-window/

 

The current hour is on the right hand side of the area graph window.

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dr. Pedro E. Colla (LU7DID)
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 3:23 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Edit Goals -- Info Window

 

Hi the behaviour lasted during all contest long.

Attached is a screen capture I took somewhere at the end of the first contest day. Not sure whether goal's date should start with 0 or 1 for the first day, tried both with no change.

You can see that although there is a goal definition the actual goals marked shows zero.

73 de Pedro, LU7DID

Re: Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

Tom Wagner (N1MM)
 

The bandmap *is* a rig control window.

Tom

On 11/27/2019 7:02 AM, John Bednar via Groups.Io wrote:

Would you consider putting that functionality into its own 'Rig
Control' window

Remember SO2R. This would require the monitor area for two windows.

John, K3CT

*From:*N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] *On Behalf Of *DD5XX
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 27, 2019 6:45 AM
*To:* N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [N1MM+] Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

[Edited Message Follows]

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 03:03 PM, Mike Chamberlain wrote:

Would you consider putting that functionality into its own 'Rig Control' window so that more than 4 parameters can be configured. That would be really useful.

+1 I would be also very happy to see more than 4 customizable buttons. Yesterday I edited those 4 buttons but I still need more for the use with my IC-7300. I actually am using:

*button 1:*
"key/bug|paddle"
As a CW addict I often change between straight key or bug and my paddle. By this this switch I can easily and very quickly change my choice.

*button 2:*
"FIL1|FIL2|FIL3"
although there is a pre-defined button called [NAR] or [WIDE] in the bandmap window which you could also re-customize with other CAT commands it was not adequate for me. Reason: my FIL1 in CW is set very wide to /500Hz/, FIL2 is /200Hz/ and FIL3 is /50Hz/. I use the wide FIL1 only when I'm calling CQ (not in contests!) to get stations off-frequency and tune onto them with RIT. The FIL2 (200Hz) is my default "/wide/" filter for CW contest use and FIL3 (=50Hz) the narrow one. By default the existing button [NAR]/[WIDE] in the bandmap window on my IC-7300 toggles between FIL1 and FIL2, so not adequate as you see. I added another button and programmed it so it allows me to toggle between FIL1, FIL2 and FIL3. Of course you could reprogram the default existing NAR/WIDE button so it switches between FIL2 and FIL3, but I liked to have the option to toggle through all the three filter presets.

*button 3:*
"NB+NR on|NB+NR off"
by this button I can toggle between "noise blanker and noise reduction" on or off.

*button 4:*
"Semi-BK|Full-BK"
With this button I can quickly toggle between Semi BK-In and QSK. When in run mode I use Semi-BK. When in S&P mode and trying to call someone, I use Full-BK.

I have a lot more wishes, so additional buttons would be really nice. Thanks for listening and your effort

73
Saki, DD5XX

Re: Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

John Bednar
 

> Would you consider putting that functionality into its own 'Rig Control' window

 

Remember SO2R. This would require the monitor area for two windows.

 

John, K3CT

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of DD5XX
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 6:45 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

 

[Edited Message Follows]

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 03:03 PM, Mike Chamberlain wrote:

Would you consider putting that functionality into its own 'Rig Control' window so that more than 4 parameters can be configured. That would be really useful.

+1 I would be also very happy to see more than 4 customizable buttons. Yesterday I edited those 4 buttons but I still need more for the use with my IC-7300. I actually am using:

button 1:
"key/bug|paddle"
As a CW addict I often change between straight key or bug and my paddle. By this this switch I can easily and very quickly change my choice.

button 2:
"FIL1|FIL2|FIL3"
although there is a pre-defined button called [NAR] or [WIDE] in the bandmap window which you could also re-customize with other CAT commands it was not adequate for me. Reason: my FIL1 in CW is set very wide to 500Hz, FIL2 is 200Hz and FIL3 is 50Hz. I use the wide FIL1 only when I'm calling CQ (not in contests!) to get stations off-frequency and tune onto them with RIT. The FIL2 (200Hz) is my default "wide" filter for CW contest use and FIL3 (=50Hz) the narrow one. By default the existing button [NAR]/[WIDE] in the bandmap window on my IC-7300 toggles between FIL1 and FIL2, so not adequate as you see. I added another button and programmed it so it allows me to toggle between FIL1, FIL2 and FIL3. Of course you could reprogram the default existing NAR/WIDE button so it switches between FIL2 and FIL3, but I liked to have the option to toggle through all the three filter presets.

button 3:
"NB+NR on|NB+NR off"
by this button I can toggle between "noise blanker and noise reduction" on or off.

button 4:
"Semi-BK|Full-BK"
With this button I can quickly toggle between Semi BK-In and QSK. When in run mode I use Semi-BK. When in S&P mode and trying to call someone, I use Full-BK.

I have a lot more wishes, so additional buttons would be really nice. Thanks for listening and your effort

73
Saki, DD5XX

Re: Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

DD5XX
 
Edited

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 03:03 PM, Mike Chamberlain wrote:
Would you consider putting that functionality into its own 'Rig Control' window so that more than 4 parameters can be configured. That would be really useful.
+1 I would be also very happy to see more than 4 customizable buttons. Yesterday I edited those 4 buttons but I still need more for the use with my IC-7300. I actually am using:

button 1:
"key/bug|paddle"
As a CW addict I often change between straight key or bug and my paddle. By this this switch I can easily and very quickly change my choice.

button 2:
"FIL1|FIL2|FIL3"
although there is a pre-defined button called [NAR] or [WIDE] in the bandmap window which you could also re-customize with other CAT commands it was not adequate for me. Reason: my FIL1 in CW is set very wide to 500Hz, FIL2 is 200Hz and FIL3 is 50Hz. I use the wide FIL1 only when I'm calling CQ (not in contests!) to get stations off-frequency and tune onto them with RIT. The FIL2 (200Hz) is my default "wide" filter for CW contest use and FIL3 (=50Hz) the narrow one. By default the existing button [NAR]/[WIDE] in the bandmap window on my IC-7300 toggles between FIL1 and FIL2, so not adequate as you see. I added another button and programmed it so it allows me to toggle between FIL1, FIL2 and FIL3. Of course you could reprogram the default existing NAR/WIDE button so it switches between FIL2 and FIL3, but I liked to have the option to toggle through all the three filter presets.

button 3:
"NB+NR on|NB+NR off"
by this button I can toggle between "noise blanker and noise reduction" on or off.

button 4:
"Semi-BK|Full-BK"
With this button I can quickly toggle between Semi BK-In and QSK. When in run mode I use Semi-BK. When in S&P mode and trying to call someone, I use Full-BK.

I have a lot more wishes, so additional buttons would be really nice. Thanks for listening and your effort.

73
Saki, DD5XX

Re: revealing QSOs in logbook view containing a NOTE (comment)

DD5XX
 

so simple, exactly what I looked for. Many thanks!

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Jim W7RY
 

Its all about the rate. Just the way it is.
I'm not that proficient at CW either, but I can copy callsigns and numbers quite well.
Sounds like you need to work more CW!



73

Thanks
73
Jim W7RY
On 11/26/2019 8:07 PM, Dana Phillips wrote:

Jim

I don't think you get my point. Yes, my language is over the top, but I am tired of the arrogance of some on this reflector. 

I regularly enter contests for the fun of it.  Having, for years, had compromised antennas, I am not chasing a top ten.  I am a little pistol, and my CW skills top out about 20 wpm.  I get in CW contests as S&P.  I use CW readers to catch what I can't. 

Telling me that if I study CW diligently, I too can run at 40wpm is like telling a pianist that with practice he can play at Carnegie Hall.  Sadly, we don't all have the same abilities.  Unfortunately, the skilled often don't understand that other people don't have their natural abilities.  That, however, does not excuse demeaning their questions. 

Smart operators know that they need little pistols to make their big numbers and are willing to make accomodations.

Dana N6DW


From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> on behalf of Monte Stark <Ron@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 8:32:19 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader
 

Having run QRP for many years if I had a nickel for every time someone asked me to repeat my call, I could afford to buy a big amp!!!

 

OK, back in my hole,

 

Ron, KU7Y

Mountain Home, ID  DN23dc

CW Ops #1211

QRP ARCI #8829

SOC #2

Idaho DX Association

Ron@...

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim W7RY
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 6:09 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

There you go! Well said Ron.


Thanks
73
Jim W7RY

On 11/26/2019 1:24 PM, Ron wrote:

As someone struggling to learn (Hear) CW I found this thread very enlightening about some peoples pompous attitudes. My only real additions are:

  • Post a decent score if you plan to bash people that are aided by a CW Reader.
  • Don't post Videos of you having to repeat your call over and over because your timing is off and then call people QRM because they are using a reader.

Ron, WV4P

 

 

 

On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 13:12, Dana Phillips <N6DW@...> wrote:

Well, I know for a fact that is not true.  Whether or not you can work 35wpm or not, almost everyone can recognize their call, even when the self-indulgent call you back far in excess of your sending speed.  SO then you can send your call  again, just like any one else.  File this under, “I don’t want to make a contact if they don’t do it my way.”

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Max NG7M
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 1:13 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

One more soap box follow up... based on my video of operating yesterday.  If you jump ahead to about 11 minutes into the video here: https://youtu.be/7nro_wVf6xw?t=673

You can see I'm getting ready to call and work CT3KN.  Multiple guys are calling and it takes me a little time to get him to come back to me... as I tune around etc.  The point I want to make here is that when CT3KN does come back with my callsign and gives me the exchange, he gets my callsign wrong.  How could anyone dynamically deal with that if they were relying on a CW code reader.... there is NO WAY!  You can see in real-time I know my call was wrong and so I sent my call a couple of times to get a confirmation.  So someone leaning on a CW reader crutch would #1, probably log the QSO and not even know that CT3KN got their callsign wrong, or #2 waste a whole lot of time trying to work CT3KN again and or try to figure out how to get their callsign corrected.

At the end of the day... a CW decoder using the above example would be a total disaster and a mess.  Other guys are calling and what happens?  The CW decoder guys just messes it up for the other guys trying to work CT3KN.  Useless.... learn how to copy code and put the time in.  No short cuts.  Max NG7M P.S. the video is showing N1MM, so I'm still on topic. ;)


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locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Dana Phillips
 

Jim

I don't think you get my point. Yes, my language is over the top, but I am tired of the arrogance of some on this reflector. 

I regularly enter contests for the fun of it.  Having, for years, had compromised antennas, I am not chasing a top ten.  I am a little pistol, and my CW skills top out about 20 wpm.  I get in CW contests as S&P.  I use CW readers to catch what I can't. 

Telling me that if I study CW diligently, I too can run at 40wpm is like telling a pianist that with practice he can play at Carnegie Hall.  Sadly, we don't all have the same abilities.  Unfortunately, the skilled often don't understand that other people don't have their natural abilities.  That, however, does not excuse demeaning their questions. 

Smart operators know that they need little pistols to make their big numbers and are willing to make accomodations.

Dana N6DW


From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> on behalf of Monte Stark <Ron@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 8:32:19 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader
 

Having run QRP for many years if I had a nickel for every time someone asked me to repeat my call, I could afford to buy a big amp!!!

 

OK, back in my hole,

 

Ron, KU7Y

Mountain Home, ID  DN23dc

CW Ops #1211

QRP ARCI #8829

SOC #2

Idaho DX Association

Ron@...

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim W7RY
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 6:09 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

There you go! Well said Ron.


Thanks
73
Jim W7RY

On 11/26/2019 1:24 PM, Ron wrote:

As someone struggling to learn (Hear) CW I found this thread very enlightening about some peoples pompous attitudes. My only real additions are:

  • Post a decent score if you plan to bash people that are aided by a CW Reader.
  • Don't post Videos of you having to repeat your call over and over because your timing is off and then call people QRM because they are using a reader.

Ron, WV4P

 

 

 

On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 13:12, Dana Phillips <N6DW@...> wrote:

Well, I know for a fact that is not true.  Whether or not you can work 35wpm or not, almost everyone can recognize their call, even when the self-indulgent call you back far in excess of your sending speed.  SO then you can send your call  again, just like any one else.  File this under, “I don’t want to make a contact if they don’t do it my way.”

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Max NG7M
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 1:13 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

One more soap box follow up... based on my video of operating yesterday.  If you jump ahead to about 11 minutes into the video here: https://youtu.be/7nro_wVf6xw?t=673

You can see I'm getting ready to call and work CT3KN.  Multiple guys are calling and it takes me a little time to get him to come back to me... as I tune around etc.  The point I want to make here is that when CT3KN does come back with my callsign and gives me the exchange, he gets my callsign wrong.  How could anyone dynamically deal with that if they were relying on a CW code reader.... there is NO WAY!  You can see in real-time I know my call was wrong and so I sent my call a couple of times to get a confirmation.  So someone leaning on a CW reader crutch would #1, probably log the QSO and not even know that CT3KN got their callsign wrong, or #2 waste a whole lot of time trying to work CT3KN again and or try to figure out how to get their callsign corrected.

At the end of the day... a CW decoder using the above example would be a total disaster and a mess.  Other guys are calling and what happens?  The CW decoder guys just messes it up for the other guys trying to work CT3KN.  Useless.... learn how to copy code and put the time in.  No short cuts.  Max NG7M P.S. the video is showing N1MM, so I'm still on topic. ;)


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n6dw@...

 

 

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locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Monte Stark
 

Having run QRP for many years if I had a nickel for every time someone asked me to repeat my call, I could afford to buy a big amp!!!

 

OK, back in my hole,

 

Ron, KU7Y

Mountain Home, ID  DN23dc

CW Ops #1211

QRP ARCI #8829

SOC #2

Idaho DX Association

Ron@...

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim W7RY
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 6:09 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

There you go! Well said Ron.


Thanks
73
Jim W7RY

On 11/26/2019 1:24 PM, Ron wrote:

As someone struggling to learn (Hear) CW I found this thread very enlightening about some peoples pompous attitudes. My only real additions are:

  • Post a decent score if you plan to bash people that are aided by a CW Reader.
  • Don't post Videos of you having to repeat your call over and over because your timing is off and then call people QRM because they are using a reader.

Ron, WV4P

 

 

 

On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 13:12, Dana Phillips <N6DW@...> wrote:

Well, I know for a fact that is not true.  Whether or not you can work 35wpm or not, almost everyone can recognize their call, even when the self-indulgent call you back far in excess of your sending speed.  SO then you can send your call  again, just like any one else.  File this under, “I don’t want to make a contact if they don’t do it my way.”

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Max NG7M
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 1:13 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

One more soap box follow up... based on my video of operating yesterday.  If you jump ahead to about 11 minutes into the video here: https://youtu.be/7nro_wVf6xw?t=673

You can see I'm getting ready to call and work CT3KN.  Multiple guys are calling and it takes me a little time to get him to come back to me... as I tune around etc.  The point I want to make here is that when CT3KN does come back with my callsign and gives me the exchange, he gets my callsign wrong.  How could anyone dynamically deal with that if they were relying on a CW code reader.... there is NO WAY!  You can see in real-time I know my call was wrong and so I sent my call a couple of times to get a confirmation.  So someone leaning on a CW reader crutch would #1, probably log the QSO and not even know that CT3KN got their callsign wrong, or #2 waste a whole lot of time trying to work CT3KN again and or try to figure out how to get their callsign corrected.

At the end of the day... a CW decoder using the above example would be a total disaster and a mess.  Other guys are calling and what happens?  The CW decoder guys just messes it up for the other guys trying to work CT3KN.  Useless.... learn how to copy code and put the time in.  No short cuts.  Max NG7M P.S. the video is showing N1MM, so I'm still on topic. ;)


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Re: 30% off Airspy HF+ this week

Jamie WW3S
 

how does the Airspy compare to an RSP1?

------ Original Message ------
From: "Tom - N1MM" <Tom@...>
Sent: 11/26/2019 9:05:00 AM
Subject: [N1MM+] 30% off Airspy HF+ this week

If you are interested in adding a spectrum display to your shack, the Airspy HF+ is 30% off this week.  It says limited quantities, so if you are interested act soon. 

You will need RF in/out ports on your radio for best results as a spectrum monitor. I don't recommend IF connection.

Tom - N1MM

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Jim W7RY
 

There you go! Well said Ron.

Thanks
73
Jim W7RY
On 11/26/2019 1:24 PM, Ron wrote:

As someone struggling to learn (Hear) CW I found this thread very enlightening about some peoples pompous attitudes. My only real additions are:
  • Post a decent score if you plan to bash people that are aided by a CW Reader.
  • Don't post Videos of you having to repeat your call over and over because your timing is off and then call people QRM because they are using a reader.
Ron, WV4P



On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 13:12, Dana Phillips <N6DW@...> wrote:

Well, I know for a fact that is not true.  Whether or not you can work 35wpm or not, almost everyone can recognize their call, even when the self-indulgent call you back far in excess of your sending speed.  SO then you can send your call  again, just like any one else.  File this under, “I don’t want to make a contact if they don’t do it my way.”

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Max NG7M
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 1:13 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

One more soap box follow up... based on my video of operating yesterday.  If you jump ahead to about 11 minutes into the video here: https://youtu.be/7nro_wVf6xw?t=673

You can see I'm getting ready to call and work CT3KN.  Multiple guys are calling and it takes me a little time to get him to come back to me... as I tune around etc.  The point I want to make here is that when CT3KN does come back with my callsign and gives me the exchange, he gets my callsign wrong.  How could anyone dynamically deal with that if they were relying on a CW code reader.... there is NO WAY!  You can see in real-time I know my call was wrong and so I sent my call a couple of times to get a confirmation.  So someone leaning on a CW reader crutch would #1, probably log the QSO and not even know that CT3KN got their callsign wrong, or #2 waste a whole lot of time trying to work CT3KN again and or try to figure out how to get their callsign corrected.

At the end of the day... a CW decoder using the above example would be a total disaster and a mess.  Other guys are calling and what happens?  The CW decoder guys just messes it up for the other guys trying to work CT3KN.  Useless.... learn how to copy code and put the time in.  No short cuts.  Max NG7M P.S. the video is showing N1MM, so I'm still on topic. ;)


--
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n6dw@...

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Jim W7RY
 

even when the self-indulgent call you back far in excess of your sending speed.

Thats a little over the top don't you think Dana? Have you ever contested on CW as a DX or rare station? 

What is your facet in ham radio Dana?  Building? Public service? Rag chewing on 40 or 80 meters SSB? Contesting?

As for getting your callsign wrong, that is to his detriment. Not yours. It counts against his score, not yours. He's more intrested in rate than accuracy aparantly.. Which is just fine. Until he sees his score.

This is all part of contesting on CW and RTTY, and phone for that matter.

How about just enjoying the hobby, instead of being after someone all the time?

My 2 cents...

Thanks
73
Jim W7RY
On 11/26/2019 1:12 PM, Dana Phillips wrote:

Well, I know for a fact that is not true.  Whether or not you can work 35wpm or not, almost everyone can recognize their call, even when the self-indulgent call you back far in excess of your sending speed.  SO then you can send your call  again, just like any one else.  File this under, “I don’t want to make a contact if they don’t do it my way.”

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Max NG7M
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 1:13 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

One more soap box follow up... based on my video of operating yesterday.  If you jump ahead to about 11 minutes into the video here: https://youtu.be/7nro_wVf6xw?t=673

You can see I'm getting ready to call and work CT3KN.  Multiple guys are calling and it takes me a little time to get him to come back to me... as I tune around etc.  The point I want to make here is that when CT3KN does come back with my callsign and gives me the exchange, he gets my callsign wrong.  How could anyone dynamically deal with that if they were relying on a CW code reader.... there is NO WAY!  You can see in real-time I know my call was wrong and so I sent my call a couple of times to get a confirmation.  So someone leaning on a CW reader crutch would #1, probably log the QSO and not even know that CT3KN got their callsign wrong, or #2 waste a whole lot of time trying to work CT3KN again and or try to figure out how to get their callsign corrected.

At the end of the day... a CW decoder using the above example would be a total disaster and a mess.  Other guys are calling and what happens?  The CW decoder guys just messes it up for the other guys trying to work CT3KN.  Useless.... learn how to copy code and put the time in.  No short cuts.  Max NG7M P.S. the video is showing N1MM, so I'm still on topic. ;)


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Re: N1MM Gateway to DXLabs integration - Configurer->External Call Lookup checkbox became disabled??

-bob, w9zv
 

Fully understand why its done, and the logic behind it...  maybe it would be useful to document this "dependency" in the Broadcast Data tab documentation? 

in CQWW i was running assisted, and apparently in my "general logging" contest it must be marked as non assisted...
i'll look at the db configuration for the "general logging"  contest... and adjust according.

i like using n1mm for my "general logging" when operating cw/ssb... when i swapped back to that "contest", it became disabled... makes sense.

just tried it... sure enough, the checkbox is back active...
73's & tnx.

Re: Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

ve3ki
 

...and if you do't want to have to download the current version of the pdf documentation (it changes monthly) in order to find that page number, it's in the on-line web page on the Bandmap window (of course), in the "Key Features" section (<https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/manual-windows/bandmap-window/#key-features>). Scroll down to just below the one and only screen shot in that section and there is a description of the toggle mechanism and syntax there, using CAT1HEX macros for Icom instead of CAT1ASC for Elecraft/Kenwood/etc.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 06:03 PM, Mike Chamberlain wrote:
Tom, many thanks for the pointer. That is exactly the type of functionality I was looking for - OK, it's a mouse click and not a key press, but that's fine.

Would you consider putting that functionality into its own 'Rig Control' window so that more than 4 parameters can be configured. That would be really useful.

Hank (W6SX), the n way toggle (|) allows multiple values to be specified to a parameter and each click of the button advances the parameter to its next value. Eg I've programmed a button to select IPO, AMP! or AMP2 and each time the button is clicked the amplifier selection progresses through the list. It is covered on page 311 of the current documentation.

Many thanks & 73
Mike /G3WPH


-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Wagner (N1MM)
Sent: 26 November 2019 13:00
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

Search the bandmap documentation for "macro". Note that these messages can implement n-way toggles using the "|" character.

Tom - N1MM

On 11/26/2019 7:55 AM, Mike Chamberlain wrote:

Modern transceivers are moving functionality from physical controls on
the front panel to menu options on a touch screen, sometimes
navigating 3 or 4 menus to get to the required setting instead of
simply turning a knob or pressing a button. It would be useful to
change setting directly from the keyboard. I appreciate the Function
keys can be reprogrammed to send CAT commands (CATHEX and CATASC etc)
to the radio but my understanding is that this can only be used with
the 12 basic function keys. Is this correct? I already use this N1MM
feature to switch filters and antennas on a FTdx101D.

Recognising that N1MM already has some degree of support for
AutoHotKey and its .ahk script file, I’m wondering if it would be
possible to add functionality to N1MM to recognise a message string
from AutoHotKey containing an ‘escape’ string (something like*ALT +
ESC*) followed by the CATxxx message with parameters and send that to
the transceiver. AutoHotKey could then be used to remap the keyboard
to perform any setting changes supported by the CAT definitions for a
particular radio.

Do other users see this as useful functionality?

73

Mike /G3WPH/G3P

Re: Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

Mike Chamberlain
 

Tom, many thanks for the pointer. That is exactly the type of functionality I was looking for - OK, it's a mouse click and not a key press, but that's fine.

Would you consider putting that functionality into its own 'Rig Control' window so that more than 4 parameters can be configured. That would be really useful.

Hank (W6SX), the n way toggle (|) allows multiple values to be specified to a parameter and each click of the button advances the parameter to its next value. Eg I've programmed a button to select IPO, AMP! or AMP2 and each time the button is clicked the amplifier selection progresses through the list. It is covered on page 311 of the current documentation.

Many thanks & 73
Mike /G3WPH

-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Wagner (N1MM)
Sent: 26 November 2019 13:00
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

Search the bandmap documentation for "macro". Note that these messages can implement n-way toggles using the "|" character.

Tom - N1MM

On 11/26/2019 7:55 AM, Mike Chamberlain wrote:

Modern transceivers are moving functionality from physical controls on
the front panel to menu options on a touch screen, sometimes
navigating 3 or 4 menus to get to the required setting instead of
simply turning a knob or pressing a button. It would be useful to
change setting directly from the keyboard. I appreciate the Function
keys can be reprogrammed to send CAT commands (CATHEX and CATASC etc)
to the radio but my understanding is that this can only be used with
the 12 basic function keys. Is this correct? I already use this N1MM
feature to switch filters and antennas on a FTdx101D.

Recognising that N1MM already has some degree of support for
AutoHotKey and its .ahk script file, I’m wondering if it would be
possible to add functionality to N1MM to recognise a message string
from AutoHotKey containing an ‘escape’ string (something like*ALT +
ESC*) followed by the CATxxx message with parameters and send that to
the transceiver. AutoHotKey could then be used to remap the keyboard
to perform any setting changes supported by the CAT definitions for a
particular radio.

Do other users see this as useful functionality?

73

Mike /G3WPH/G3P

Re: Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

ve3ki
 

Sent too fast - looks like one too many zeros in the third ML command in the three-way example - it should be ML010; .

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 05:47 PM, ve3ki wrote:
Hank,

I must have missed the addition of this toggle feature myself, but as it happens another user sent me a couple of examples for the Bandmap window buttons:

M Off |M On                    {CAT1ASC ML000;}|{CAT1ASC ML003;}

to toggle the monitor between off and level 3. and 

M Off |M Lo |M Hi                         {CAT1ASC ML000;}|{CAT1ASC ML003;}|{CAT1ASC ML0010;}

 
for a three-way toggle.

I assume (without having tried it yet) that the button caption in the Bandmap window displays the current state of the toggle.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 04:43 PM, Hank Garretson wrote:
 

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:00 AM Tom Wagner (N1MM) <n1mmtomwagner@...> wrote:
Search the bandmap documentation for "macro". Note that these messages
can implement n-way toggles using the "|" character.
 
Please elaborate on "n-way toggles using the "I" character. Can't find documentation on that.
 
Thanks.
 
Contest Exuberantly,
 
Hank, W6SX

Tom - N1MM

On 11/26/2019 7:55 AM, Mike Chamberlain wrote:
>
> Modern transceivers are moving functionality from physical controls on
> the front panel to menu options on a touch screen, sometimes
> navigating 3 or 4 menus to get to the required setting instead of
> simply turning a knob or pressing a button. It would be useful to
> change setting directly from the keyboard.   I appreciate the Function
> keys can be reprogrammed to send CAT commands (CATHEX and CATASC etc)
> to the radio but my understanding is that this can only be used with
> the 12 basic function keys. Is this correct? I already use this N1MM
> feature to switch filters and antennas on a FTdx101D.
>
> Recognising that N1MM already has some degree of support for
> AutoHotKey and its .ahk  script file,  I’m wondering if it would be
> possible to add functionality to N1MM to recognise a message string
> from AutoHotKey containing an ‘escape’ string (something like*ALT +
> ESC*) followed by the CATxxx message with parameters and send that to
> the transceiver.  AutoHotKey could then be used to remap the keyboard
> to perform any setting changes supported by the CAT definitions for a
> particular radio.
>
> Do other users see this as useful functionality?
>
> 73
>
> Mike /G3WPH/G3P
>
>



Re: Sending CAT commands from non function keys.

ve3ki
 

Hank,

I must have missed the addition of this toggle feature myself, but as it happens another user sent me a couple of examples for the Bandmap window buttons:

M Off |M On                    {CAT1ASC ML000;}|{CAT1ASC ML003;}

to toggle the monitor between off and level 3. and 

M Off |M Lo |M Hi                         {CAT1ASC ML000;}|{CAT1ASC ML003;}|{CAT1ASC ML0010;}

 
for a three-way toggle.

I assume (without having tried it yet) that the button caption in the Bandmap window displays the current state of the toggle.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 04:43 PM, Hank Garretson wrote:
 

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:00 AM Tom Wagner (N1MM) <n1mmtomwagner@...> wrote:
Search the bandmap documentation for "macro". Note that these messages
can implement n-way toggles using the "|" character.
 
Please elaborate on "n-way toggles using the "I" character. Can't find documentation on that.
 
Thanks.
 
Contest Exuberantly,
 
Hank, W6SX

Tom - N1MM

On 11/26/2019 7:55 AM, Mike Chamberlain wrote:
>
> Modern transceivers are moving functionality from physical controls on
> the front panel to menu options on a touch screen, sometimes
> navigating 3 or 4 menus to get to the required setting instead of
> simply turning a knob or pressing a button. It would be useful to
> change setting directly from the keyboard.   I appreciate the Function
> keys can be reprogrammed to send CAT commands (CATHEX and CATASC etc)
> to the radio but my understanding is that this can only be used with
> the 12 basic function keys. Is this correct? I already use this N1MM
> feature to switch filters and antennas on a FTdx101D.
>
> Recognising that N1MM already has some degree of support for
> AutoHotKey and its .ahk  script file,  I’m wondering if it would be
> possible to add functionality to N1MM to recognise a message string
> from AutoHotKey containing an ‘escape’ string (something like*ALT +
> ESC*) followed by the CATxxx message with parameters and send that to
> the transceiver.  AutoHotKey could then be used to remap the keyboard
> to perform any setting changes supported by the CAT definitions for a
> particular radio.
>
> Do other users see this as useful functionality?
>
> 73
>
> Mike /G3WPH/G3P
>
>