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Re: scores now lining up

ve3ki
 

This sounds like a variable-spaced font. With a monospaced font, the columns line up just fine here. Use the Config > Manage Skins, Colors and Fonts to open the Manage Skins, Colors and Fonts window, select the Fonts tab, and click on the fifth button: "Fixed - Digital Interface, Check, Telnet and Score Windows". Make sure the font that is selected there is a fixed-width font. Actually, the only fonts that should be available in the listbox are fixed-spaced fonts; it shouldn't be possible to select a variable-spaced font here.

If that's not the issue: Which contest type, and what modes are listed in the Score Summary?

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 08:32 PM, kb9lgs wrote:
The score summary is not really working great. The column headings are not over the
columns and then the columns are not really that. The are not vertically alined. If the entry
in one column is a bit longer than the others such as in the mode column then the other
columns are moved over that many characters.

Is there a way to fix this?
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Senior Consultant Stevens Services
raytodd@...
308 Kentucky Hollow Rd (812) 279-9394
Bedford, IN 47421

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Re: Spotted speed in Band Map

Gerald Boutin (VE1DT)
 

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 11:01 PM, Bob Conder wrote:
In the past, the Band MAP showed the xmiting speed of the spotted station..but can't find this feature anymore....Played with all the menus and can't get this useful feature back. Does show beam heading.
Pse advise.73 de K4RLC Bob
You can see the cw speed in the Telnet window or by hovering the mouse over a spot in the Bandmap. However, this only works for spots from the RBN.
 
--
Gerald, VE1DT

Re: F keys not working

ve3ki
 

1. Make sure the program is in CW logging mode. If necessary, type CW into the entry box and press the Enter key.

2. Right-click on one of the function key buttons in the Entry window to see your function key message file. Make sure it looks OK (contents haven't been erased, non-comment lines look like normal CW messages, etc.)

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 09:29 PM, Phil Storey wrote:
Thanks Larry. but no F lock. It's a Logitech K120. Interestingly band change is not working but edit from mouse is Ok, just the F keys are the problem which is impacting our contest.
We will enter Qs manually via the entry window.  Thanks again for your help. 73 Phil

On Sat., Nov. 23, 2019, 17:12 Larry K8UT, <K8UT@...> wrote:
Phil
 
If your keyboard has an [F-Lock] button, press it once to make sure you did not switch the function keys to their alternate function. I have done that before and it drove me crazy trying to figure out what the keys were doing to N1MM.
 
-larry (K8UT)
 
------ Original Message ------
Sent: 2019-11-23 20:08:32
Subject: [N1MM+] F keys not working
 
F keys suddenly not working mid contest, does anyone have any ideas what could have happened. Looks like its just N1MM as the keys work on all other programs.  Thanks VE7FO Jim 

Spotted speed in Band Map

Bob Conder
 

In the past, the Band MAP showed the xmiting speed of the spotted station..but can't find this feature anymore....Played with all the menus and can't get this useful feature back. Does show beam heading.
Pse advise.73 de K4RLC Bob

Re: F keys not working

Phil Storey
 

Thanks Larry. but no F lock. It's a Logitech K120. Interestingly band change is not working but edit from mouse is Ok, just the F keys are the problem which is impacting our contest.
We will enter Qs manually via the entry window.  Thanks again for your help. 73 Phil

On Sat., Nov. 23, 2019, 17:12 Larry K8UT, <K8UT@...> wrote:
Phil

If your keyboard has an [F-Lock] button, press it once to make sure you did not switch the function keys to their alternate function. I have done that before and it drove me crazy trying to figure out what the keys were doing to N1MM.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
Sent: 2019-11-23 20:08:32
Subject: [N1MM+] F keys not working

F keys suddenly not working mid contest, does anyone have any ideas what could have happened. Looks like its just N1MM as the keys work on all other programs.  Thanks VE7FO Jim 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Ken McVie
 

Hi Ron,

I'm not only referring to stations working pile-ups, but also to stations calling CQ CQ CQ. at speeds approaching 40wpm.  Not all had big signals here either, as they are mostly beaming away from ZL direction thinking we don't exist!!

I can see the logic in your argument tho, & I never work as a RUN station, as I couldn't handle the resulting mess!!

73
Ken ZL4NR

On 24/11/2019 2:16 pm, Monte Stark wrote:

Hi Ken,

 

One of the things some of the good contesters do is to vary their speed depending on the size of the pileup they have. When the pile up is big and hard to pick out a single station they will increase their speed with the idea that those who can't copy the 40ish or even more wpm CW will leave and come by later. And as the size of the pileup goes down they will slow their speed down a bit. The idea makes sense to me but with my little station I can never get a pile up big enough to worry about!  :-)

 

And something else to think about is that most of the fast CW was being done by stations with big signals. They would keep a pile up going hour after hour. There might be fair amount of "empty" CQing going on tomorrow but it sounded to me like they were all staying very busy today.

 

I entered this contest as Assisted. First time I've ever tried that in a big test. I'm am totally amazed by all the things this software will do and how easy it is to set it up. The whole N1MM+ team are my heroes!! Thanks to all of you!

 

OK, back in my hole,

 

Ron, KU7Y

Mountain Home, ID  DN23dc

CW Ops #1211

QRP ARCI #8829

SOC #2

Idaho DX Association

Ron@...

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken McVie
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 1:21 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

I think if the speedsters slowed down a bit they would get many more QSO's. If as somebody said on here "if you listen for multiple times to the same station giving out reports, or calling CQ, you will pick up each letter". that's true, but if they slowed to a reasonable speed they would get many more responses I'm sure, as some of us 'mere mortals' can't read the blur of CW that they are giving out.

Just my 2 cents worth!!

73
Ken ZL4NR

On 24/11/2019 8:10 am, Rick Ellison wrote:

That might be very true but for some of us that can’t hear in the 400 to 1000hz range it makes hearing CW very difficult. I last night I had given out about 80 q’s while I sat hear working on some projects. Maybe I shouldn’t have given out the q’s since I couldn’t actually hear the tones correctly but some contesters out there I bet welcomed the q’s..

 

I have tried all of the CW readers out there. The 2 that are the best is CWget and MRP40. Fldigi is good for a general qso where there is not much noise and the other person is sending really good code. There are some adjustments you can make to Fldigi like narrowing the AFC range and playing with the other settings on the CW tab. But CWGet is my default reader..

 

73 Rick N2AMG

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Cooke
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:42 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

The best code reader is that grey stuff in between the ears! Don't try to settle for less. It might take sometime to achieve, but it's well worth it.

 

73 de Roger, G3LDI

On 23/11/2019 16:24, Andrew O'Brien wrote:

I have found that code readers in general don’t do well at speeds common to major contests , even though machine generated . CQWW is a little easier for a plan old human brain to cope with because the exchange is so easy to predict (and N1MM mostly predicts it). 

Andy

 




On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Phil via Groups.Io <p.oakley@...> wrote:

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

 

 

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scores now lining up

kb9lgs
 

The score summary is not really working great. The column headings are not over the
columns and then the columns are not really that. The are not vertically alined. If the entry
in one column is a bit longer than the others such as in the mode column then the other
columns are moved over that many characters.

Is there a way to fix this?
--
Ray Todd Stevens Specialists in Network and Security Consulting
Senior Consultant Stevens Services
raytodd@...
308 Kentucky Hollow Rd (812) 279-9394
Bedford, IN 47421

Thought for the day:
A penny saved is ridiculous.

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Monte Stark
 

Hi Ken,

 

One of the things some of the good contesters do is to vary their speed depending on the size of the pileup they have. When the pile up is big and hard to pick out a single station they will increase their speed with the idea that those who can't copy the 40ish or even more wpm CW will leave and come by later. And as the size of the pileup goes down they will slow their speed down a bit. The idea makes sense to me but with my little station I can never get a pile up big enough to worry about!  :-)

 

And something else to think about is that most of the fast CW was being done by stations with big signals. They would keep a pile up going hour after hour. There might be fair amount of "empty" CQing going on tomorrow but it sounded to me like they were all staying very busy today.

 

I entered this contest as Assisted. First time I've ever tried that in a big test. I'm am totally amazed by all the things this software will do and how easy it is to set it up. The whole N1MM+ team are my heroes!! Thanks to all of you!

 

OK, back in my hole,

 

Ron, KU7Y

Mountain Home, ID  DN23dc

CW Ops #1211

QRP ARCI #8829

SOC #2

Idaho DX Association

Ron@...

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken McVie
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 1:21 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

I think if the speedsters slowed down a bit they would get many more QSO's. If as somebody said on here "if you listen for multiple times to the same station giving out reports, or calling CQ, you will pick up each letter". that's true, but if they slowed to a reasonable speed they would get many more responses I'm sure, as some of us 'mere mortals' can't read the blur of CW that they are giving out.

Just my 2 cents worth!!

73
Ken ZL4NR

On 24/11/2019 8:10 am, Rick Ellison wrote:

That might be very true but for some of us that can’t hear in the 400 to 1000hz range it makes hearing CW very difficult. I last night I had given out about 80 q’s while I sat hear working on some projects. Maybe I shouldn’t have given out the q’s since I couldn’t actually hear the tones correctly but some contesters out there I bet welcomed the q’s..

 

I have tried all of the CW readers out there. The 2 that are the best is CWget and MRP40. Fldigi is good for a general qso where there is not much noise and the other person is sending really good code. There are some adjustments you can make to Fldigi like narrowing the AFC range and playing with the other settings on the CW tab. But CWGet is my default reader..

 

73 Rick N2AMG

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Cooke
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:42 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

The best code reader is that grey stuff in between the ears! Don't try to settle for less. It might take sometime to achieve, but it's well worth it.

 

73 de Roger, G3LDI

On 23/11/2019 16:24, Andrew O'Brien wrote:

I have found that code readers in general don’t do well at speeds common to major contests , even though machine generated . CQWW is a little easier for a plan old human brain to cope with because the exchange is so easy to predict (and N1MM mostly predicts it). 

Andy

 




On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Phil via Groups.Io <p.oakley@...> wrote:

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: F keys not working

Larry K8UT
 

Phil

If your keyboard has an [F-Lock] button, press it once to make sure you did not switch the function keys to their alternate function. I have done that before and it drove me crazy trying to figure out what the keys were doing to N1MM.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
Sent: 2019-11-23 20:08:32
Subject: [N1MM+] F keys not working

F keys suddenly not working mid contest, does anyone have any ideas what could have happened. Looks like its just N1MM as the keys work on all other programs.  Thanks VE7FO Jim 

F keys not working

Phil Storey
 

F keys suddenly not working mid contest, does anyone have any ideas what could have happened. Looks like its just N1MM as the keys work on all other programs.  Thanks VE7FO Jim 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Michael Rundle
 

I think Ken has a good point. As a "mere mortal" myself, I often have to listen multiple times to copy a call sign sent at 30 wpm & up whereas If I copied in one or two tries, I could have made the qso and moved on to another, which would improve my rate as well as the rates of others. In addition, Something I noticed when I set up my Winkeyer this past summer, were suggestions in the documentation about how to make a call sign more readable. Instead of allowing the program to pull one's callsign from the station data page, it was suggested to enter a call sign directly in the F-key macros, and use the < or > to speed up or slow down 1 or more characters by 2 (or more) wpm, and/or with the ~ add a half space (or more) between 1 or more characters. I tried this out, experimenting with various changes, and settled on a setup I thought would improve the readability of my call sign. I believe I achieved some success as I have noticed fewer repeat requests and fewer incorrect copies in my S&P efforts in CQWWCW this weekend. Give it a try. You may be pleasantly surprised with the results.

73, Mike - N1OKL

Re: Zones multiplier

Tony Osman
 

Thanks Rich, that did it.

Tony 

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, 6:57 PM ve3ki, <ve3iay@...> wrote:
That window might be off the screen. You could try closing down the program and editing the n1mm logger.ini file. The changes you would need are in the section called [ZoneMults]. In that section, set Left=100, Top=100, Width=600 and Height=300, save the changes, then start the program and try opening the window to see if it shows up (with the numbers suggested above, it should be near but not at the top left corner of the display). Don't edit the file while the program is running - the edits will not do any good if you do that.

73,
Rich VE3KI





On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 06:13 PM, Tony Osman wrote:
I don't seem to be able to bring up the zones multi screen in CQWW cw. What is likely cause? No error msg, just no display.
 
Tony - ve3rz

Re: Zones multiplier

ve3ki
 

That window might be off the screen. You could try closing down the program and editing the n1mm logger.ini file. The changes you would need are in the section called [ZoneMults]. In that section, set Left=100, Top=100, Width=600 and Height=300, save the changes, then start the program and try opening the window to see if it shows up (with the numbers suggested above, it should be near but not at the top left corner of the display). Don't edit the file while the program is running - the edits will not do any good if you do that.

73,
Rich VE3KI





On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 06:13 PM, Tony Osman wrote:
I don't seem to be able to bring up the zones multi screen in CQWW cw. What is likely cause? No error msg, just no display.
 
Tony - ve3rz

Re: Warning about no cluster/telnet spots > 3mins

VE9AA - Mike
 

Aha! You're wise. I had inadvertently just minimized it I think...no doubt when adjusting timeout on self spots when changing bands. (on nearly dead bands, I like to leave the spots up a long time, but for 20/40, people shuffle around too much to leave them up on the bandmap for any great length of time.

I found it hidden and closed it. 

Thanks Rich

Re: Spectrum Display with SoftRock

John, G4DRS
 

Thanks, Rich.
I have now realised I was using an old version of Waterfall Bandmap.
I have just downloaded 1.0.0.28 and it works!


Cheers,


John
G4DRS

Re: Spectrum Display with SoftRock

ve3ki
 

And of course, I meant Waterfall Bandmap, not Waterfall Display  - for sure the latter won't work!

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 06:43 PM, ve3ki wrote:
If the waterfall in the Waterfall Bandmap window is working properly, the problem is not in your hardware - it's in the connections between the WB program and the Spectrum Display window. In the box you see when you use the "For all other radios, source named" menu item, is Waterfall Display entered there, with no extra spaces and with the first letter of each word capitalized? It probably has to match exactly - close doesn't count.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 12:44 PM, John, G4DRS wrote:
I wonder, has anyone got the Spectrum Display window to work using the Waterfall Bandmap software and a SoftRock SDR plus soundcard?
I have a Radiokits Hiunter SDR (which identifies as a softrock), connected to a soundblaster Audigy soundcard.
The setup works quite nicely as a panadaptor using NAP3 software, displaying the 9MHz IF output of the FTdx5000, so I thought for a change I'd try the Spectrum Display window.
I have the Waterfall Bandmap software running, and it makes a nice display, with station callsigns against each waterfall stream.
However, when I start the Spectrum display window in N1MM Logger+ and select 'for all other radios, source named waterfall bandmap', the window shows no signals and becomes unresponsive. I have to exit N1MM Logger+ or kill it using task manager to get things working again.
I appreciate that my si570/soundcard based SDR is very old technology these days, but the documentation seems to imply it should work. Has anyone any idea where I might be going wrong?


John
G4DRS 

Re: Warning about no cluster/telnet spots > 3mins

ve3ki
 

Sounds like the Telnet window is open. If so, close it (not just minimized - closed completely).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 02:40 PM, VE9AA - Mike wrote:
Hi Gang

I am doing the "Classic" thing this weekend (and populating my own bandmap at times when I am S&P)
How do I permanently get rid of this reminder message pse? *(as I am Unassisted this weekend)

Tnx !

Mike VE9AA "5"

Re: Spectrum Display with SoftRock

ve3ki
 

If the waterfall in the Waterfall Bandmap window is working properly, the problem is not in your hardware - it's in the connections between the WB program and the Spectrum Display window. In the box you see when you use the "For all other radios, source named" menu item, is Waterfall Display entered there, with no extra spaces and with the first letter of each word capitalized? It probably has to match exactly - close doesn't count.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 12:44 PM, John, G4DRS wrote:
I wonder, has anyone got the Spectrum Display window to work using the Waterfall Bandmap software and a SoftRock SDR plus soundcard?
I have a Radiokits Hiunter SDR (which identifies as a softrock), connected to a soundblaster Audigy soundcard.
The setup works quite nicely as a panadaptor using NAP3 software, displaying the 9MHz IF output of the FTdx5000, so I thought for a change I'd try the Spectrum Display window.
I have the Waterfall Bandmap software running, and it makes a nice display, with station callsigns against each waterfall stream.
However, when I start the Spectrum display window in N1MM Logger+ and select 'for all other radios, source named waterfall bandmap', the window shows no signals and becomes unresponsive. I have to exit N1MM Logger+ or kill it using task manager to get things working again.
I appreciate that my si570/soundcard based SDR is very old technology these days, but the documentation seems to imply it should work. Has anyone any idea where I might be going wrong?


John
G4DRS 

Zones multiplier

Tony Osman
 

I don't seem to be able to bring up the zones multi screen in CQWW cw. What is likely cause? No error msg, just no display.

Tony - ve3rz

Re: N1MM+ with Omnirig Virtual Comm Port software?

Dr. Pedro E. Colla (LU7DID)
 

Hi, tal

I have tried to integrate N1MM first and N1MM+ with OmniRig in order to enable the simultaneous usage of CW-Skimmer and other rig controlling software while running a contest with N1MM.

I can tell that all solutions using some sort of COM port mixer are doomed to fail, the actual rig can not cope with many  talkers willing to control it simultaneously.

So I've settled about a decade ago with an integration piece of software that emulates a given rig and sits behind com0com, so the program receives the rig specific commands send by N1MM and relay it to the Omnirig controlled rig using it, back and forth.

Initially I developed a DLL for each rig I want to support, doing only that for rigs I'm interested on, so over the time I used this scheme with IC706, FT80,FT840, FT890, FT100, FT817 and now FT2000. With the FT817 DLL I can control other rigs that emulates that CAT set such as the mcHF and some local developments of mine. The need to develop a DLL for each rig is a limitation of the approach I'd lived with.

Over the time I asked if there is some tech reason why N1MM doesn´t support OmniRig, and received some quite wide answers from "no answer" to OmniRig doesn´t support some special features of specific (but popular) rigs. About the second I don't fully understand it, as OmniRig API has a mode where transparent exchange of commands and answers is allowed, thus no matter how specific the command might be it can be sent to the rig despite whether it's supported by OmniRig or not. Perhaps a "generic" rig called OmniRig can be supported where only the basic features can be used and if there is an INI file defined it will work, so anyone using it will know only the basic set can be supported.

Anyway, mi two cents on the subject. Pedro LU7DID