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Re: Rig Control error FT4 from withing N1MM+

pete.thomas.fi
 

Hei Rick, I appreciate your help. Yes I have the set up exactly according to the N1MM+ website (WSJT Decode List Window 29 pages) All except for the Mode Control Tab which for Mode sent to radio Digi the manual says for the IC7600 this should be set to PSK - but that puts my radio into PSK and then there is no transmit. I get it to transmit by manually selecting on the radio USB-D1 and I have set the Mode Tab Digi - to "no change". 73' Pete T Oh2euu

Re: IC-9700 on 70 cm

John Bednar
 


Drew,

Do you have a transverter entry for 432?

John, K3CT 




-------- Original message --------
From: Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA <drew@...>
Date: 2/16/20 2:30 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] IC-9700 on 70 cm

All,

I just purchased a IC9700 which is generally running fine under N1MM.  However, using the band buttons I can QSY to 2M, and to 1296, but the button for 70 cm seems to have no effect.  Similar effect when manually entering a 70 cm frequency.  Thoughts?

Similar functionc seem fine using Icom software, etc.  Only 70 cm is an issue only using N1MM.

73,

Drew K3PA

IC-9700 on 70 cm

Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA
 

All,

I just purchased a IC9700 which is generally running fine under N1MM.  However, using the band buttons I can QSY to 2M, and to 1296, but the button for 70 cm seems to have no effect.  Similar effect when manually entering a 70 cm frequency.  Thoughts?

Similar functionc seem fine using Icom software, etc.  Only 70 cm is an issue only using N1MM.

73,

Drew K3PA

Re: Setup Spectrum with FTDX3000?

ART W2NRA
 

Hi Rich,

Thank you!  Great to hear. 

FYI  Here’s the quote in the N1MM Logger+ Help file:

Yaesu FTDX5000, FTDX3000, FTDX1200, FTDX9000, FT991
For those who own Win4YaesuSuite (http://yaesu.va2fsq.com/) software, plus hardware as described below < Snip >

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS OPS #1955

On Feb 16, 2020, at 12:46 PM, ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:

You do not need Win4YaesuSuite. What you need is an SDR that can generate spectrum data. Depending on which SDR hardware you use, you may or may not need other software. Some SDRs are supported directly by the spectrum display window code in N1MM+, others may need additional software such as N2IC's Waterfall Bandmap or Win4YaesuSuite.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 12:09 PM, ART W2NRA wrote:
I would Like to setup the Spectrum scope to my old rig, FTDX3000. Based on the N1MM Logger+ Help file I assume I must purchase Win4YaesuSuite. Is that correct?

I've gotten addicted to the Spectrum scopes with my IC7610 and IC-7300.
 
73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

Can't Upgrade

n3nz Noel
 

Hi all,

I upgraded computer to windows 10 home and since then can't upgrade N1MM to the latest version 1.0.8152, windows tell me to turn off N1MM plus. When I turn off upgrade also disappears.
Any solutions , please.

73, Noel (OM) N3NZ

Re: Available window + keyboard navigation

VE9AA - Mike
 

CTRL+Up Arrow (or down arrow) I believe it what you're looking for.  I try to stay away from the mouse when possible (wastes time) and this is what I use.

CTRL+SHIFT+Up Arrow (or down arrow) works next MULT, and if you drop the shift, just the next workable station.

--
Mike VE9AA

Master node unresponsive to remote node telnet requests

Marshall Thomas
 

This is a separate issue from my previous post about lack of populating the bandmap automatically from telnet window.

In this case, my remote node got "stuck" waiting for telnet response from the Master node.
My WX5S telenet window showed a continuing cycle of "waiting for Master" with retries every couple of seconds.

I saw this happen a couple of times this weekend, ARRL CW 2020 at W7RN.
We are a hybrid configuration of remote and on-site computers.
We run a Softether VPN server.  Remote users establish a VPN connection and get a IP address via DHCP.
The N1MM Master has a fixed IP of 192.168.1.131.
As far as N1MM is concerned, all computers appear like they are local, i.e. have 192.168.1.XXX IP addresses.

I am attaching the Messages from the Network status Window at my WX5S computer.
To decode this, here are IP to Computer assignments:

  IP      Computer Name
.127 LEN-RAD-2  (on-site)
.142 WX5S  (remote)
.131 LEN-RAD-1, the N1MM "Master" (on-site)
.149 K6NV  (remote)

Messages logged at WX5S Computer (.142):
11:01 Timeout sending data to: K6NV. Closing connection
16:01 Incoming request from 192.168.1.131:19721
16:52 Timeout sending data to: LEN-RAD-1. Closing connection
16:53 Incoming request from 192.168.1.131:20259
16:53 Incoming request from 192.168.1.127:45099
16:53 Timeout sending data to: HP-RAD-2. Closing connection

What happened:

I got up and looked at my N1MM (WX5S, 192.168.1.142) at about 16:20z in preparation for an operating shift.
My telnet window is open and I see convulsive retries with the Master computer (LEN-RAD-1). 192.168.1.131.
Although the telenet messages says to designate a "Master" if there isn't one, my computer knows the master and it is so designated in the Network Status Window.
No spots are in my local  bandmap. 

From seeing this once before the previous day, I know that closing and restarting N1MM on the Master computer would set things right. However, we decided not to do that because my operating shift got cancelled.  Closing and restarting N1MM is very disruptive during the contest! If you have saved your Window positions, this does "work", but shouldn't be necessary.

I happened to look again at N1MM at about 17:30z and packet had been restored automatically at WX5S, 192.168.1.142.
I have no idea at all as to how that happened or why it happened.

I suspect that this:
"16:52 Timeout sending data to: LEN-RAD-1. Closing connection",
somehow triggers a telnet "reset" to the Master computer.
LEN-RAD-1 (the Master) switches from port 19721 to port 20259 near 1700z.
That apparently makes my WX5S computer "happy" and I start getting spots again.

It is 18:30z as I write this and my packet feed at WX5S from the Master is "stable".

I have no idea why my packet feed suddenly started working again or what occured for the Master to change IP ports. No IP addresses were reassigned.

73, Matt WX5S




 

Spots don't propagate automatically to bandmap in network configuration

Marshall Thomas
 

At N6RO and W7RN, we run N1MM+ in a networked configuration for MM or M/S. In each case, there is a designated Master station and telnet windows are open on all machines.  At times, spots stop appearing automatically in the bandmap window and OP's have to press the SH/DX button in the bandmap.  It can be real annoying to keep hitting that button.  I've seen this behaviour at both stations.
73, Matt WX5S

Re: Setup Spectrum with FTDX3000?

ve3ki
 

You do not need Win4YaesuSuite. What you need is an SDR that can generate spectrum data. Depending on which SDR hardware you use, you may or may not need other software. Some SDRs are supported directly by the spectrum display window code in N1MM+, others may need additional software such as N2IC's Waterfall Bandmap or Win4YaesuSuite.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 12:09 PM, ART W2NRA wrote:
I would Like to setup the Spectrum scope to my old rig, FTDX3000. Based on the N1MM Logger+ Help file I assume I must purchase Win4YaesuSuite. Is that correct?

I've gotten addicted to the Spectrum scopes with my IC7610 and IC-7300.
 
73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

Setup Spectrum with FTDX3000?

ART W2NRA
 

I would Like to setup the Spectrum scope to my old rig, FTDX3000. Based on the N1MM Logger+ Help file I assume I must purchase Win4YaesuSuite. Is that correct?

I've gotten addicted to the Spectrum scopes with my IC7610 and IC-7300.

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

Re: Rig Control error FT4 from withing N1MM+

Rick Ellison
 

Pete..

Is N1MM and WSJT setup according to the instructions on the N1MM website??

And on the Mode tab in the main N1MM config what mode do you have set for Digi for the radio.

 

Send me screenshots of the WSJT/JTDX tab in the N1MM config and a screenshot of the radio tab in WSJT and I should be able to figure why you are dropping the radio connection..

 

73 Rick N2AMG

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of pete.thomas.fi
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 7:03 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Rig Control error FT4 from withing N1MM+

 

When running WSJT-x FT4 from within N1MM+ about every 2 mins I lose contact with the radio IC7600 (Running windows 7 Pro) The dialog says Rig Control error - do you wish to reconfigure? In further info it says DX Lab Suite Commander sent an unrecognised mode: "0". This does not seem to happen in FT8. Running from within N1MM+ is new for me, so this problem has been from the start.
73' Pete T
Oh2euu

Available window + keyboard navigation

Vytenis LY5T
 

I do S&P with Avalalble window. Actually more pouncing than searching. Alt-A. After I hit Enter, spot jumps into entry window and is worked, next spot in Available window is marked. How do I enter it to entry window ant tune to it *with* keyboard? If I do Alt-A marker jumps to next spot leaving it unworked.
I aim to do most operations with keyboard if only it is possible - I find it bit faster.

Vytenis LY5T

Re: Spectrum Display Not Receiving Remote Spectrum Data (Reprise)

Tom Wagner (N1MM)
 

See if relay is working. Either relay to a new spectrum window at the remote site, or use your home router tools to see if it's getting there.

The most like problem is that your home computer internal ip has changed from when you set up the router. 

Tom

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 8:05 PM Rick Tavan <rtavan@...> wrote:
It's deja vu all over at N6XI/Remote. The last time this happened, it self-corrected after about 100 restarts of various components.
So far this time it's continuing. I'd grateful for any more advice and will try to characterize the issue very clearly:

What's Right and Wrong
At Control Site, N1MM Entry and Bandmap Windows show remote rig frequency correctly.
    SD Window shows no spectrum data - this is the main problem.

    SD Window lower RH corner SOMETIMES shows correct frequency on startup, sometimes 0.0.
        SOMETIMES frequency moves with VFO, EW, and Bandmap displays but other times is frozen at initial frequency.
At Remote Site, N1MM Entry and SD Windows show rig frequency and valid spectrum data.

Configuration
Radio Site: K3 with RemoteRig Controller, Intel NUC running Win 10 and latest N1MM with only EW, Log, and SD windows.
SD Window is set for Source=Airspy HF+, Relay to (Correct) External IP of Control Site:13064, Source Name F
Windows Defender Outbound Rule appears to allow N1MM.
Router Port Forwards 13064 to the NUC (UDP)
Control Site: K3 with RemoteRig Controller, Dell XPS13 running Win 10 and latest N1MM
Rig-Rig connection working normally
N1MM Logger sees the remote radio through the Control Side RRC, functions normally
Windows Defender Inbound Rule appears to allow N1MM.
Router Port Forwards 13064 to the XPS13 (UDP)
N1MM Config Broadcast data checks Radio box and specifies external IP of Radio Site:13064
SD Window specifies Source as external Source Name F


--

Rick Tavan
Truckee and Saratoga, CA

Rig Control error FT4 from withing N1MM+

pete.thomas.fi
 

When running WSJT-x FT4 from within N1MM+ about every 2 mins I lose contact with the radio IC7600 (Running windows 7 Pro) The dialog says Rig Control error - do you wish to reconfigure? In further info it says DX Lab Suite Commander sent an unrecognised mode: "0". This does not seem to happen in FT8. Running from within N1MM+ is new for me, so this problem has been from the start.
73' Pete T
Oh2euu

Re: Feature modification proposal

N2WQ
 

Hi John,

Thanks for looking into it! I must’ve missed the command. I have a mix of 7610 and 7300s.

By the way, I have always wondered if there is a way a band change to trigger a CAT command. K3 owners are blessed with having the ability to set output power per band, while us ICOM owners have one setting for all bands. I’d love to be able to send a CAT command upon band change to set the appropriate amp drive level. Is this possible?


On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 03:32 PM, John Bednar wrote:

Rudy,

 

Don’t know what radio you own. I checked the  IC-7610 radio manual and it looks like there is a command for power level.

 

Send/read RF power   ( 0000=min. to 0255=max.)

 

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of N2WQ via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 5:23 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Feature modification proposal

 

Looks like ICOMs cannot set power level over CAT. But at least it is possible to send a stream of dits.

Rudy N2WQ


On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 06:06 AM, ART W2NRA wrote:

Actually you can use the Bandmaps Cat Command buttons for more than one command on each one.  Just put an   |   between each command.  Though you might not want to do that with a command result you won’t see on you rig’s display.  Example:  I have 3 band width commands on my Bandmap for band width, but I can see the band width changing on my display.

73, Art W2NRA

CWOPS #1955

 

On Feb 15, 2020, at 3:59 AM, Vytenis LY5T <vytenis.sciucka@...> wrote:

Bandmap has 4 spare buttons which can be programmed with CAT commands: "reduce power to 35W" - you will get what you need with one button click". Program other button to increase power back to 100W or whatever.

Vytenis
LY5T

 

Two small problems

Pete Smith
 

A few times during the contest, I have clicked on a call within tuning tolerance of another call that was already in the call-frame and the callsign textbox, and the clicked call did not replace the one in the textbox.  This doesn't seem like it is the way it should work.

Second, the process for editing a power number is flawed.  When you double-click on the power in the log entry and an editing window opens around the field, it does not conform to the windows text editing rules.  For example, numbers that I have deleted by backspacing sometimes return when I hit Enter.  I can usually get it after a try or two 

-- 
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network 
at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now 
spotting RTTY activity worldwide. 
For spots, please use your favorite 
"retail" DX cluster.

Re: Spectrum Display Not Receiving Remote Spectrum Data (Reprise)

Danny Bush
 

Hey Rick,

Not sure if it matters but, are both PCs running the same Rev Windows 10? For example: 1909?

Hope you get it...

73,
Danny NF4J

73,
Danny Bush - NF4J

On 2/15/20, 19:13 Rick Tavan <rtavan@...> wrote:
Sorry - accidentally hit a key that sent the message below before I was done composing. Below is full intended text:

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 5:05 PM Rick Tavan via Groups.Io <rtavan= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
It's deja vu all over at N6XI/Remote. The last time this happened, it self-corrected after about 100 restarts of various components.
So far this time it's continuing. I'd be grateful for any more advice and will try to characterize the issue very clearly:

What's Right and Wrong
At Control Site, N1MM Entry and Bandmap Windows show remote rig frequency correctly.
    SD Window shows no spectrum data - this is the main problem .
        Title bar says "Unnamed Scope Spectrum".
    SD Window lower RH corner SOMETIMES shows correct frequency on startup, sometimes 0.0.
        SOMETIMES frequency moves with VFO, EW, and Bandmap displays but other times is frozen at initial frequency.
           Either way, there is no spectrum data and SD window title bar shows no source.
At Remote Site, N1MM Entry and SD Windows show rig frequency and valid spectrum data.
        They track the VFO properly.
        SD Window Title bar says correctly "Airspy Spectrum ..."

What I've Confirmed:
The external IP addresses are correct per local invocations of whatismyip.com.
The firewall entries look good to me.
Windows Defender looks accommodating to me.
Port Forwarding of 13064 is set up at both ends.
The last time this happened I was able to relay SD to a second local window. Haven't reconfirmed this time.

Configuration
Radio Site: K3 with RemoteRig Controller, Intel NUC running Win 10 and latest N1MM with only EW, Log, and SD windows.
SD Window is set for Source=Airspy HF+, Relay to (Correct) External IP of Control Site:13064, Source Name F
Windows Defender Outbound Rule appears to allow N1MM.
Router Port Forwards 13064 to the NUC (UDP)
Control Site: K3 with RemoteRig Controller, Dell XPS13 running Win 10 and latest N1MM
Rig-Rig connection working normally
N1MM Logger sees the remote radio through the Control Side RRC, functions normally
Windows Defender Inbound Rule appears to allow N1MM.
Router Port Forwards 13064 to the XPS13 (UDP)
N1MM Config Broadcast data checks Radio box and specifies external IP of Radio Site:13064
SD Window specifies Source as external Source Name F

Any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks!

73,

/Rick N6XI

--

Rick Tavan
Truckee and Saratoga, CA



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--

Rick Tavan
Truckee and Saratoga, CA

Re: Spectrum Display Not Receiving Remote Spectrum Data (Reprise)

Rick Tavan
 

Sorry - accidentally hit a key that sent the message below before I was done composing. Below is full intended text:

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 5:05 PM Rick Tavan via Groups.Io <rtavan=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
It's deja vu all over at N6XI/Remote. The last time this happened, it self-corrected after about 100 restarts of various components.
So far this time it's continuing. I'd be grateful for any more advice and will try to characterize the issue very clearly:

What's Right and Wrong
At Control Site, N1MM Entry and Bandmap Windows show remote rig frequency correctly.
    SD Window shows no spectrum data - this is the main problem.
        Title bar says "Unnamed Scope Spectrum".
    SD Window lower RH corner SOMETIMES shows correct frequency on startup, sometimes 0.0.
        SOMETIMES frequency moves with VFO, EW, and Bandmap displays but other times is frozen at initial frequency.
           Either way, there is no spectrum data and SD window title bar shows no source.
At Remote Site, N1MM Entry and SD Windows show rig frequency and valid spectrum data.
        They track the VFO properly.
        SD Window Title bar says correctly "Airspy Spectrum ..."

What I've Confirmed:
The external IP addresses are correct per local invocations of whatismyip.com.
The firewall entries look good to me.
Windows Defender looks accommodating to me.
Port Forwarding of 13064 is set up at both ends.
The last time this happened I was able to relay SD to a second local window. Haven't reconfirmed this time.

Configuration
Radio Site: K3 with RemoteRig Controller, Intel NUC running Win 10 and latest N1MM with only EW, Log, and SD windows.
SD Window is set for Source=Airspy HF+, Relay to (Correct) External IP of Control Site:13064, Source Name F
Windows Defender Outbound Rule appears to allow N1MM.
Router Port Forwards 13064 to the NUC (UDP)
Control Site: K3 with RemoteRig Controller, Dell XPS13 running Win 10 and latest N1MM
Rig-Rig connection working normally
N1MM Logger sees the remote radio through the Control Side RRC, functions normally
Windows Defender Inbound Rule appears to allow N1MM.
Router Port Forwards 13064 to the XPS13 (UDP)
N1MM Config Broadcast data checks Radio box and specifies external IP of Radio Site:13064
SD Window specifies Source as external Source Name F

Any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks!

73,

/Rick N6XI

--

Rick Tavan
Truckee and Saratoga, CA



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Rick Tavan
Truckee and Saratoga, CA

Spectrum Display Not Receiving Remote Spectrum Data (Reprise)

Rick Tavan
 

It's deja vu all over at N6XI/Remote. The last time this happened, it self-corrected after about 100 restarts of various components.
So far this time it's continuing. I'd grateful for any more advice and will try to characterize the issue very clearly:

What's Right and Wrong
At Control Site, N1MM Entry and Bandmap Windows show remote rig frequency correctly.
    SD Window shows no spectrum data - this is the main problem.

    SD Window lower RH corner SOMETIMES shows correct frequency on startup, sometimes 0.0.
        SOMETIMES frequency moves with VFO, EW, and Bandmap displays but other times is frozen at initial frequency.
At Remote Site, N1MM Entry and SD Windows show rig frequency and valid spectrum data.

Configuration
Radio Site: K3 with RemoteRig Controller, Intel NUC running Win 10 and latest N1MM with only EW, Log, and SD windows.
SD Window is set for Source=Airspy HF+, Relay to (Correct) External IP of Control Site:13064, Source Name F
Windows Defender Outbound Rule appears to allow N1MM.
Router Port Forwards 13064 to the NUC (UDP)
Control Site: K3 with RemoteRig Controller, Dell XPS13 running Win 10 and latest N1MM
Rig-Rig connection working normally
N1MM Logger sees the remote radio through the Control Side RRC, functions normally
Windows Defender Inbound Rule appears to allow N1MM.
Router Port Forwards 13064 to the XPS13 (UDP)
N1MM Config Broadcast data checks Radio box and specifies external IP of Radio Site:13064
SD Window specifies Source as external Source Name F


--

Rick Tavan
Truckee and Saratoga, CA

Re: Feature modification proposal

John Bednar
 

Rudy,

 

Don’t know what radio you own. I checked the  IC-7610 radio manual and it looks like there is a command for power level.

 

Send/read RF power   ( 0000=min. to 0255=max.)

 

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of N2WQ via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 5:23 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Feature modification proposal

 

Looks like ICOMs cannot set power level over CAT. But at least it is possible to send a stream of dits.

Rudy N2WQ


On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 06:06 AM, ART W2NRA wrote:

Actually you can use the Bandmaps Cat Command buttons for more than one command on each one.  Just put an   |   between each command.  Though you might not want to do that with a command result you won’t see on you rig’s display.  Example:  I have 3 band width commands on my Bandmap for band width, but I can see the band width changing on my display.

73, Art W2NRA

CWOPS #1955

 

On Feb 15, 2020, at 3:59 AM, Vytenis LY5T <vytenis.sciucka@...> wrote:

Bandmap has 4 spare buttons which can be programmed with CAT commands: "reduce power to 35W" - you will get what you need with one button click". Program other button to increase power back to 100W or whatever.

Vytenis
LY5T