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Re: CT .bin file?

ve3ki
 

Somehow he managed to type the link into the middle of the header line for the quote of your original message: It was

<software.ad1c.us/CT_to_ADIF>

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 09:19 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:
Hi Frank...
 
Did you forget the link?
 
 
 
 
73,
 
Gary K9GS
 
 
-------- Original message --------
From: Frank Collins <FCollins22@...>
Date: 12/17/20 5:56 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CT .bin file?
 
I have used this for CT files and it worked well.  Frank K1EBY
 
On 12/17/20software.ad1c.us/CT_to_ADIF
 
20 5:46 PM Gary K9GS <k9gs@...> wrote:
 
 
This is going back a ways.
 
I have a bunch of CT .bin files from about 1995.
 
Does anyone know of a way to convert these to ADIF?
 
I no longer have a DOS PC nor a way to run CT.  These are on floppy disks which presents another problem but I'm working on a way to fix that.
 
 
 
 
73,
 
Gary K9GS
 


Re: CT .bin file?

Steve Maki
 

I've used a Windows program called LogConv by KA5WSS that did a good job on CT8 & CT9 .bin files (converted them to ADIF files).

-Steve K8LX

On 12/17/2020 5:46 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:
This is going back a ways.
I have a bunch of CT .bin files from about 1995.
Does anyone know of a way to convert these to ADIF?
I no longer have a DOS PC nor a way to run CT.  These are on floppy disks which presents another problem but I'm working on a way to fix that.
73,
Gary K9GS


Re: CT .bin file?

Gary K9GS
 

Hi Bob,

The problem isn't being able to run CT.

It's converting the old CT .bin files to ADIF.




73,

Gary K9GS


-------- Original message --------
From: Bob Turner <n2scj-lists@...>
Date: 12/17/20 5:38 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CT .bin file?

Search for a program called DOSBox.  Perhaps it will run CT if you can find those files.

7 3  Bob

N2SCJ

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary K9GS
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:47 PM
To: N1MM Logger Reflector <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Subject: [N1MM+] CT .bin file?

 

This is going back a ways.

 

I have a bunch of CT .bin files from about 1995.

 

Does anyone know of a way to convert these to ADIF?

 

I no longer have a DOS PC nor a way to run CT.  These are on floppy disks which presents another problem but I'm working on a way to fix that.

 

 

 

 

73,

 

Gary K9GS

 


Re: CT .bin file?

Gary K9GS
 

Hi Frank...

Did you forget the link?




73,

Gary K9GS


-------- Original message --------
From: Frank Collins <FCollins22@...>
Date: 12/17/20 5:56 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CT .bin file?

I have used this for CT files and it worked well.  Frank K1EBY
 
On 12/17/20software.ad1c.us/CT_to_ADIF
 
20 5:46 PM Gary K9GS <k9gs@...> wrote:
 
 
This is going back a ways.
 
I have a bunch of CT .bin files from about 1995.
 
Does anyone know of a way to convert these to ADIF?
 
I no longer have a DOS PC nor a way to run CT.  These are on floppy disks which presents another problem but I'm working on a way to fix that.
 
 
 
 
73,
 
Gary K9GS
 


Re: "run as administrator" question

ve3ki
 

First, if you have installed the user files into the Program Files path, then all of your user files are recoverable, but they will be lost if you delete the program directory. To save them, copy all of the subdirectories from the program directory (except for the PrerequisiteInstallers directory) to a safe place.

Second, do not remove the program by simply deleting its directory in Program Files. Either use Windows Settings > Apps to uninstall the program, or you can run the Uninstall.exe program that is in the program directory.

After you have saved your user files and uninstalled the program, use the Full Installer to re-install it in the default locations. If it objects to the user file location because it's in OneDrive or Google Drive or Dropbox, pick another location that is on your hard drive but *not* in the Program Files or Program Files (x86) paths. Download and run the latest Updater, then run the Logger and complete the initial setup. When you are asked whether you want to open an existing database,or create a new one, choose the option to create a new file but use a different file name from the file name you used in the previous install.

Once the initial setup has been done, you can copy files from your saved backup of the subdirectories you made two paragraphs above into the corresponding subdirectories in your new user files area. To recover your old logs, use the File > Open Database menu item to open the database file you had been using with the previous installation.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 07:10 PM, Karl Beckman wrote:
You have installed N1MM+ incorrectly.  It will NOT WORK correctly if you install into either the "Program Files" or "Program Files (x86)" directory.  Windows only allows admin users to write file changes into either of those two protected directories..
I can offer a simple fix, but you will lose your current log file.  There are several experts here who have a better method which can also recover your recently logged activity.  If you have no alternate (paper) log from last weekend, do it their way   
1)  Delete the entire folder "N1MM Logger -\" from your Program Files (x86) folder. 
2)  Then run the N1MM+ installer again, but this time let the installer use its default location.  It will do that twice, once for the program proper and a second time for the user files. 
3)  Run the incremental weekly updater and restart N1MM+  You'll then need to reload your operator and station information. 
 
Karl  WA8NVW - OH
in N1MM+ Logger groups.io


Re: "run as administrator" question

Karl Beckman
 

You have installed N1MM+ incorrectly.  It will NOT WORK correctly if you install into either the "Program Files" or "Program Files (x86)" directory.  Windows only allows admin users to write file changes into either of those two protected directories..
I can offer a simple fix, but you will lose your current log file.  There are several experts here who have a better method which can also recover your recently logged activity.  If you have no alternate (paper) log from last weekend, do it their way   
1)  Delete the entire folder "N1MM Logger -\" from your Program Files (x86) folder. 
2)  Then run the N1MM+ installer again, but this time let the installer use its default location.  It will do that twice, once for the program proper and a second time for the user files. 
3)  Run the incremental weekly updater and restart N1MM+  You'll then need to reload your operator and station information. 
 
Karl  WA8NVW - OH
in N1MM+ Logger groups.io


Re: CT .bin file?

Frank Collins
 

I have used this for CT files and it worked well.  Frank K1EBY
 

On 12/17/20software.ad1c.us/CT_to_ADIF
 
20 5:46 PM Gary K9GS <k9gs@...> wrote:
 
 
This is going back a ways.
 
I have a bunch of CT .bin files from about 1995.
 
Does anyone know of a way to convert these to ADIF?
 
I no longer have a DOS PC nor a way to run CT.  These are on floppy disks which presents another problem but I'm working on a way to fix that.
 
 
 
 
73,
 
Gary K9GS
 


Re: CT .bin file?

VE9AA - Mike
 

I haven't used CT since the 90's, but I did run across this group, some of whom may be able to assist:
http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CT-User/2020-12/index.html

GL Gary
--

Mike VE9AA


Re: CT .bin file?

Bob Turner
 

Search for a program called DOSBox.  Perhaps it will run CT if you can find those files.

7 3  Bob

N2SCJ

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary K9GS
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:47 PM
To: N1MM Logger Reflector <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Subject: [N1MM+] CT .bin file?

 

This is going back a ways.

 

I have a bunch of CT .bin files from about 1995.

 

Does anyone know of a way to convert these to ADIF?

 

I no longer have a DOS PC nor a way to run CT.  These are on floppy disks which presents another problem but I'm working on a way to fix that.

 

 

 

 

73,

 

Gary K9GS

 


CT .bin file?

Gary K9GS
 

This is going back a ways.

I have a bunch of CT .bin files from about 1995.

Does anyone know of a way to convert these to ADIF?

I no longer have a DOS PC nor a way to run CT.  These are on floppy disks which presents another problem but I'm working on a way to fix that.




73,

Gary K9GS


Re: Adding R# to the log window (M/S, M/M) - how about SO2R?

Tom Wagner (N1MM)
 

View/Statistics

Tom

On 12/17/2020 5:00 PM, Rick Tavan wrote:

Any way to display R# when SO2R?

/Rick N6XI

Tom wrote:

1. Log window: improve the process of adding/deleting mode, Computer
and R# to the log window (Coded by N1MM)


--

Rick Tavan
Truckee and Saratoga, CA


Adding R# to the log window (M/S, M/M) - how about SO2R?

Rick Tavan
 


Any way to display R# when SO2R?

/Rick N6XI

Tom wrote:
  1. Log window: improve the process of adding/deleting mode, Computer and R# to the log window (Coded by N1MM)

--

Rick Tavan
Truckee and Saratoga, CA


Re: Telnet Window Disappeared

ShelbyK4WW
 

VE3KI wrote: "On my laptop, I have changed the display scaling from 100% to 125%, because I can't read anything on it at 100%. When I change it to 100%, it behaves the way it should, but at either 125% or 150%, the Telnet window disappears when it is minimized"

This solved my "lost when minimized" situation, however I will have to wait until the next contest to see how the change affects my eyes. Initially, I suspect that I will leave it at 125%, and deal with the "lost when minimized" situation by using the Telnet tools feature?


On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 8:34 AM ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:
And with further testing: On my shack computer, the Telnet window minimizes to the small title bar at the lower left of the display, as it has always done. On this laptop, however, when the Telnet window is minimized it disappears completely. Thanks to K4WW, though: the Tools > Telnet WIndow Tools menu item restores the Telnet window on the laptop, so it is not necessary to edit the ini file to recover it. Also like K4WW, but unlike N3QE and AI6O, the Telnet window on both computers here is remembering the cluster it was last connected to.

Both my computers are running the same version of Windows 10 (1909, build 18363.1256) and the same version of N1MM+ (1.0.8807.0). I just tried it on a third computer, this one running WIndows 7 (with the same version of N1MM+), and the Telnet window behaves normally there.

I just installed N1MM+ 1.0.8807.0 on my wife's computer (Windows 10 version 1909 build 18363.1198) and the Telnet window minimizes to the expected place. No history of Telnet connections, so nothing to remember.

My laptop has a smaller display than the other three computers; maybe that has something to do with the disappearing minimized window.


AHA!!!

On my laptop, I have changed the display scaling from 100% to 125%, because I can't read anything on it at 100%. When I change it to 100%, it behaves the way it should, but at either 125% or 150%, the Telnet window disappears when it is minimized.

73,
Rich VE3KI


There is something odd going on in my laptop, as at N4ZR and K4WW, and something different but also odd going on at N3QE and AI6O, 

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:39 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Correction - my eyesight is getting very poor, sorry. There is actually a minimize icon on the Telnet title bar (a little dash to the left of the X). But if you use the minimize icon, the window seems to minimize to nowhere, and I have not found a way to restore it other than editing the ini file. So for now, you probably shouldn't minimize the Telnet window.

73,
Rich VE3KI

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:24 AM, ve3ki wrote:
I can reproduce this, including your difficulty in finding a way to restore the window.

Your Telnet window has been minimized. Previously it used to minimize to a small "thumbnail" of the title bar only, just above the left end of the Task Bar. That thumbnail title bar had the usual buttons at the right end allowing you to restore the full window. However, I just did a test by minimizing the Telnet window from the previous version of N1MM+, and that minimized version of the window is no longer there. It's not on the Task Bar either. Thumbnails of windows like the Digital Interface window show up when you hover the mouse over the N1MM+ icon on the Task Bar, and then right-clicking on the thumbnail would give you a pop-up menu that had either a Restore or a Move menu item that you could use to recover the window. Unfortunately, the Telnet window is not one of those windows that appear on the Task Bar. In effect, it has been minimized to nowhere, so there is nothing to click on to get the Restore/Move menu..

I believe your only recourse will be to open the n1mm logger.ini file, find the section starting with [TelnetClient], and in that section change WIndowState from 1 to 0. That will restore the Telnet window the next time you start up N1MM+. In the latest version of the program, it appears as if the Telnet window no longer has a minimize icon in the title bar at all. This means you will not be able to minimize it. If you don't want to be distracted by all of the spots zooming past in the Telnet window while it is open, you can move it almost all the way off the screen, leaving just enough of the title bar to be able to grab it and move it back onto the display whenever you need to access any of the menus or controls.

Hopefully the previous minimize functioning of the Telnet window will be restored soon.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:25 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

I read that, but it doesn't help.  I cannot find a Restore icon in the title bar of any of the windows I have open.  The discussion on the web page refers to a "My Computer" window.  I see on Microsoft that This PC has replaced it, but on my Windows 10 Pro machine, This PC has only a Restore Down button

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 12/16/2020 6:41 PM, Tom Wagner (N1MM) wrote:
https://flylib.com/books/en/2.406.1/objective_3_maximize_restore_minimize_and_close_a_window.html

On 12/16/2020 6:36 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

OK, Thanks Tom. Changing the Window State worked - thanks!  But I can't find the "restore button."  I've searched the manual and the term is not found.  Without it, minimizing the Telnet window seems like a one-way street, unless you go in and modify the .ini file.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 12/16/2020 5:47 PM, Tom Wagner (N1MM) wrote:
You minimized the Telnet window.  Click on the restore button, or change WindowState to 0.

Tom - N1MM

On 12/16/2020 5:24 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

I think the Grinch ate my Telnet window.

Running 1.0.8807, and it was working earlier this afternoon for CWT.  I closed MM+, reopened, and tried to open the Telnet window.  When nothing appeared, I checked the N1MM logger.ini file.  The [Telnet Client] entry read:

[TelnetClient]
Height=543
IsOpen=True
Left=-1550
Top=0
Width=1038
WindowState=1

Looked OK to me, except maybe the left position, but I have two 27" monitors and the Telnet window was on the left-hand one.

So then I I renamed yesterday's daily backup .ini file to replace the current one, but it yielded the same non-result, and when I looked at it, contents were the same.  So then I tried Left=0, thinking that would put it in the upper lefthand corner of my #1 monitor, but no joy.

There's nothing in the error log.  I'm stumped.  Any ideas?

-- 
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As I don't have an iPad nor iPhone, sent from my PC


n1mm con jtdx incorporados

franck laclare <lu9ozx@...>
 

Hola grupo del fuero 
me llamo Franck soy de Salta Argentina mi indicativo es lu9ozx , Hace ya bastante que utilizo n1mm para concursos en fonia estoy tratando de hacerlo para jtdx le pido si pueden ayudarme , si saben donde puede haber un video para entrelazarlos ya que la explicación de n1mm  , la leí pero no pude , mi equipo para jtdx es un ic 7300,
saludos cordiales 
lu9ozx
73 


Re: "run as administrator" question

Vytenis LY5T
 

I guess during installation you selected user files to be installed into c:\program files (86)\ directory and not c:\users\user\Documents which correct and by default.
https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/getting-started/installing-and-upgrading-n1mm-logger/#first-time-installation-instructions

Vytenis
ly5t


"run as administrator" question

John Langdon
 

When I start N1MM+ I get the error “Can’t write to C:\Program Files (x86)N1MM Logger - \LogError.txt” message.  See full RTE message attached.

 

It runs beautifully if I “run as administrator”, and I am not using FSK or RTTY, just CW so far.

 

I don’t think it is Windows Defender (my only anti-virus software) because N1MM+ appears in the “allow an app” listing in the firewall and network protection dialog, see attached.

 

Is there another “permission” or setting that  I am missing?

 

73 John N5CQ

 

 

 


Re: Telnet window no longer remembers my previous cluster

Joe WB9SBD
 

I had that happen also I thought it odd that it did not remember who I usually connected to.

I will add one more thing that happened.  The minimizing thing where it went to the twilight zone. Also happened.

But also when it got  it got minimized, I could see it there, but no way to restore it, AND once it was minimized it stopped sending info to N1MM+ the bandmap was no longer getting information.

I was not sure if that was "Normal" because I usually never have assistance running.  But it was when I was trying to see if I could spot people without getting assistance.

Joe WB9SBD

On 12/17/2020 4:33 AM, ShelbyK4WW wrote:
I'm having a similar problem with the Telnet window. Even when operating assisted, I keep the Telnet window minimized, to reduce distractions. Now when I minimize the Telnet window, the only way I can get it back is to use: >Tools >Telnet window tools, which brings it back to its original position? Not sure if it happened in the 10 meter test, as I operated unassisted, and never opened the Telnet window. I don't lose the cluster that I usually connect with, it's just a minor inconvenience, that I didn't have before. 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 5:55 PM Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@...> wrote:
The N1MM+ Telnet window used to remember my most recently used cluster.

Over the weekend I upgraded to the latest version (1.0.8807.0).

Today I noticed it no longer remembers (and I'm pretty sure over the weekend in the 10M test it wasn't remembering either). I can click on "Cluster", find one of my favorite nodes in the pull down, and connect. But if I exit N1MM and restart it no longer remembers, I have to choose the Cluster anew again.

Is there some way or button to hit, to make the Cluster chosen, sticky again?

Tim N3QE




--
73, Shelby - K4WW
As I don't have an iPad nor iPhone, sent from my PC


Re: Telnet Window Disappeared

chuck.gooden
 

When I tried this solution yesterday I thought it opened a new telnet window and I had 2 connections to the cluster.

-------- Original message --------
From: ve3ki <ve3iay@...>
Date: 12/17/20 7:37 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Telnet Window Disappeared

And with further testing: On my shack computer, the Telnet window minimizes to the small title bar at the lower left of the display, as it has always done. On this laptop, however, when the Telnet window is minimized it disappears completely. Thanks to K4WW, though: the Tools > Telnet WIndow Tools menu item restores the Telnet window on the laptop, so it is not necessary to edit the ini file to recover it. Also like K4WW, but unlike N3QE and AI6O, the Telnet window on both computers here is remembering the cluster it was last connected to.

Both my computers are running the same version of Windows 10 (1909, build 18363.1256) and the same version of N1MM+ (1.0.8807.0). I just tried it on a third computer, this one running WIndows 7 (with the same version of N1MM+), and the Telnet window behaves normally there.

I just installed N1MM+ 1.0.8807.0 on my wife's computer (Windows 10 version 1909 build 18363.1198) and the Telnet window minimizes to the expected place. No history of Telnet connections, so nothing to remember.

My laptop has a smaller display than the other three computers; maybe that has something to do with the disappearing minimized window.


AHA!!!

On my laptop, I have changed the display scaling from 100% to 125%, because I can't read anything on it at 100%. When I change it to 100%, it behaves the way it should, but at either 125% or 150%, the Telnet window disappears when it is minimized.

73,
Rich VE3KI


There is something odd going on in my laptop, as at N4ZR and K4WW, and something different but also odd going on at N3QE and AI6O, 

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:39 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Correction - my eyesight is getting very poor, sorry. There is actually a minimize icon on the Telnet title bar (a little dash to the left of the X). But if you use the minimize icon, the window seems to minimize to nowhere, and I have not found a way to restore it other than editing the ini file. So for now, you probably shouldn't minimize the Telnet window.

73,
Rich VE3KI

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:24 AM, ve3ki wrote:
I can reproduce this, including your difficulty in finding a way to restore the window.

Your Telnet window has been minimized. Previously it used to minimize to a small "thumbnail" of the title bar only, just above the left end of the Task Bar. That thumbnail title bar had the usual buttons at the right end allowing you to restore the full window. However, I just did a test by minimizing the Telnet window from the previous version of N1MM+, and that minimized version of the window is no longer there. It's not on the Task Bar either. Thumbnails of windows like the Digital Interface window show up when you hover the mouse over the N1MM+ icon on the Task Bar, and then right-clicking on the thumbnail would give you a pop-up menu that had either a Restore or a Move menu item that you could use to recover the window. Unfortunately, the Telnet window is not one of those windows that appear on the Task Bar. In effect, it has been minimized to nowhere, so there is nothing to click on to get the Restore/Move menu..

I believe your only recourse will be to open the n1mm logger.ini file, find the section starting with [TelnetClient], and in that section change WIndowState from 1 to 0. That will restore the Telnet window the next time you start up N1MM+. In the latest version of the program, it appears as if the Telnet window no longer has a minimize icon in the title bar at all. This means you will not be able to minimize it. If you don't want to be distracted by all of the spots zooming past in the Telnet window while it is open, you can move it almost all the way off the screen, leaving just enough of the title bar to be able to grab it and move it back onto the display whenever you need to access any of the menus or controls.

Hopefully the previous minimize functioning of the Telnet window will be restored soon.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:25 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

I read that, but it doesn't help.  I cannot find a Restore icon in the title bar of any of the windows I have open.  The discussion on the web page refers to a "My Computer" window.  I see on Microsoft that This PC has replaced it, but on my Windows 10 Pro machine, This PC has only a Restore Down button

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 12/16/2020 6:41 PM, Tom Wagner (N1MM) wrote:
https://flylib.com/books/en/2.406.1/objective_3_maximize_restore_minimize_and_close_a_window.html

On 12/16/2020 6:36 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

OK, Thanks Tom. Changing the Window State worked - thanks!  But I can't find the "restore button."  I've searched the manual and the term is not found.  Without it, minimizing the Telnet window seems like a one-way street, unless you go in and modify the .ini file.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
at<http://reversebeacon.net>, now
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For spots, please use your favorite
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On 12/16/2020 5:47 PM, Tom Wagner (N1MM) wrote:
You minimized the Telnet window.  Click on the restore button, or change WindowState to 0.

Tom - N1MM

On 12/16/2020 5:24 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

I think the Grinch ate my Telnet window.

Running 1.0.8807, and it was working earlier this afternoon for CWT.  I closed MM+, reopened, and tried to open the Telnet window.  When nothing appeared, I checked the N1MM logger.ini file.  The [Telnet Client] entry read:

[TelnetClient]
Height=543
IsOpen=True
Left=-1550
Top=0
Width=1038
WindowState=1

Looked OK to me, except maybe the left position, but I have two 27" monitors and the Telnet window was on the left-hand one.

So then I I renamed yesterday's daily backup .ini file to replace the current one, but it yielded the same non-result, and when I looked at it, contents were the same.  So then I tried Left=0, thinking that would put it in the upper lefthand corner of my #1 monitor, but no joy.

There's nothing in the error log.  I'm stumped.  Any ideas?

-- 
73, Pete N4ZR
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Re: Telnet Window Disappeared

Pete Smith
 

Ahah!  Both of my screens (on one Win 10 computer) are set to 125 percent.  Methinks you have found it.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 12/17/2020 8:33 AM, ve3ki wrote:

And with further testing: On my shack computer, the Telnet window minimizes to the small title bar at the lower left of the display, as it has always done. On this laptop, however, when the Telnet window is minimized it disappears completely. Thanks to K4WW, though: the Tools > Telnet WIndow Tools menu item restores the Telnet window on the laptop, so it is not necessary to edit the ini file to recover it. Also like K4WW, but unlike N3QE and AI6O, the Telnet window on both computers here is remembering the cluster it was last connected to.

Both my computers are running the same version of Windows 10 (1909, build 18363.1256) and the same version of N1MM+ (1.0.8807.0). I just tried it on a third computer, this one running WIndows 7 (with the same version of N1MM+), and the Telnet window behaves normally there.

I just installed N1MM+ 1.0.8807.0 on my wife's computer (Windows 10 version 1909 build 18363.1198) and the Telnet window minimizes to the expected place. No history of Telnet connections, so nothing to remember.

My laptop has a smaller display than the other three computers; maybe that has something to do with the disappearing minimized window.


AHA!!!

On my laptop, I have changed the display scaling from 100% to 125%, because I can't read anything on it at 100%. When I change it to 100%, it behaves the way it should, but at either 125% or 150%, the Telnet window disappears when it is minimized.

73,
Rich VE3KI


There is something odd going on in my laptop, as at N4ZR and K4WW, and something different but also odd going on at N3QE and AI6O, 

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:39 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Correction - my eyesight is getting very poor, sorry. There is actually a minimize icon on the Telnet title bar (a little dash to the left of the X). But if you use the minimize icon, the window seems to minimize to nowhere, and I have not found a way to restore it other than editing the ini file. So for now, you probably shouldn't minimize the Telnet window.

73,
Rich VE3KI

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:24 AM, ve3ki wrote:
I can reproduce this, including your difficulty in finding a way to restore the window.

Your Telnet window has been minimized. Previously it used to minimize to a small "thumbnail" of the title bar only, just above the left end of the Task Bar. That thumbnail title bar had the usual buttons at the right end allowing you to restore the full window. However, I just did a test by minimizing the Telnet window from the previous version of N1MM+, and that minimized version of the window is no longer there. It's not on the Task Bar either. Thumbnails of windows like the Digital Interface window show up when you hover the mouse over the N1MM+ icon on the Task Bar, and then right-clicking on the thumbnail would give you a pop-up menu that had either a Restore or a Move menu item that you could use to recover the window. Unfortunately, the Telnet window is not one of those windows that appear on the Task Bar. In effect, it has been minimized to nowhere, so there is nothing to click on to get the Restore/Move menu..

I believe your only recourse will be to open the n1mm logger.ini file, find the section starting with [TelnetClient], and in that section change WIndowState from 1 to 0. That will restore the Telnet window the next time you start up N1MM+. In the latest version of the program, it appears as if the Telnet window no longer has a minimize icon in the title bar at all. This means you will not be able to minimize it. If you don't want to be distracted by all of the spots zooming past in the Telnet window while it is open, you can move it almost all the way off the screen, leaving just enough of the title bar to be able to grab it and move it back onto the display whenever you need to access any of the menus or controls.

Hopefully the previous minimize functioning of the Telnet window will be restored soon.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:25 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

I read that, but it doesn't help.  I cannot find a Restore icon in the title bar of any of the windows I have open.  The discussion on the web page refers to a "My Computer" window.  I see on Microsoft that This PC has replaced it, but on my Windows 10 Pro machine, This PC has only a Restore Down button

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On 12/16/2020 6:41 PM, Tom Wagner (N1MM) wrote:
https://flylib.com/books/en/2.406.1/objective_3_maximize_restore_minimize_and_close_a_window.html

On 12/16/2020 6:36 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

OK, Thanks Tom. Changing the Window State worked - thanks!  But I can't find the "restore button."  I've searched the manual and the term is not found.  Without it, minimizing the Telnet window seems like a one-way street, unless you go in and modify the .ini file.

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On 12/16/2020 5:47 PM, Tom Wagner (N1MM) wrote:
You minimized the Telnet window.  Click on the restore button, or change WindowState to 0.

Tom - N1MM

On 12/16/2020 5:24 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

I think the Grinch ate my Telnet window.

Running 1.0.8807, and it was working earlier this afternoon for CWT.  I closed MM+, reopened, and tried to open the Telnet window.  When nothing appeared, I checked the N1MM logger.ini file.  The [Telnet Client] entry read:

[TelnetClient]
Height=543
IsOpen=True
Left=-1550
Top=0
Width=1038
WindowState=1

Looked OK to me, except maybe the left position, but I have two 27" monitors and the Telnet window was on the left-hand one.

So then I I renamed yesterday's daily backup .ini file to replace the current one, but it yielded the same non-result, and when I looked at it, contents were the same.  So then I tried Left=0, thinking that would put it in the upper lefthand corner of my #1 monitor, but no joy.

There's nothing in the error log.  I'm stumped.  Any ideas?

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Re: Telnet Window Disappeared

ve3ki
 

And with further testing: On my shack computer, the Telnet window minimizes to the small title bar at the lower left of the display, as it has always done. On this laptop, however, when the Telnet window is minimized it disappears completely. Thanks to K4WW, though: the Tools > Telnet WIndow Tools menu item restores the Telnet window on the laptop, so it is not necessary to edit the ini file to recover it. Also like K4WW, but unlike N3QE and AI6O, the Telnet window on both computers here is remembering the cluster it was last connected to.

Both my computers are running the same version of Windows 10 (1909, build 18363.1256) and the same version of N1MM+ (1.0.8807.0). I just tried it on a third computer, this one running WIndows 7 (with the same version of N1MM+), and the Telnet window behaves normally there.

I just installed N1MM+ 1.0.8807.0 on my wife's computer (Windows 10 version 1909 build 18363.1198) and the Telnet window minimizes to the expected place. No history of Telnet connections, so nothing to remember.

My laptop has a smaller display than the other three computers; maybe that has something to do with the disappearing minimized window.


AHA!!!

On my laptop, I have changed the display scaling from 100% to 125%, because I can't read anything on it at 100%. When I change it to 100%, it behaves the way it should, but at either 125% or 150%, the Telnet window disappears when it is minimized.

73,
Rich VE3KI


There is something odd going on in my laptop, as at N4ZR and K4WW, and something different but also odd going on at N3QE and AI6O, 


On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:39 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Correction - my eyesight is getting very poor, sorry. There is actually a minimize icon on the Telnet title bar (a little dash to the left of the X). But if you use the minimize icon, the window seems to minimize to nowhere, and I have not found a way to restore it other than editing the ini file. So for now, you probably shouldn't minimize the Telnet window.

73,
Rich VE3KI

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:24 AM, ve3ki wrote:
I can reproduce this, including your difficulty in finding a way to restore the window.

Your Telnet window has been minimized. Previously it used to minimize to a small "thumbnail" of the title bar only, just above the left end of the Task Bar. That thumbnail title bar had the usual buttons at the right end allowing you to restore the full window. However, I just did a test by minimizing the Telnet window from the previous version of N1MM+, and that minimized version of the window is no longer there. It's not on the Task Bar either. Thumbnails of windows like the Digital Interface window show up when you hover the mouse over the N1MM+ icon on the Task Bar, and then right-clicking on the thumbnail would give you a pop-up menu that had either a Restore or a Move menu item that you could use to recover the window. Unfortunately, the Telnet window is not one of those windows that appear on the Task Bar. In effect, it has been minimized to nowhere, so there is nothing to click on to get the Restore/Move menu..

I believe your only recourse will be to open the n1mm logger.ini file, find the section starting with [TelnetClient], and in that section change WIndowState from 1 to 0. That will restore the Telnet window the next time you start up N1MM+. In the latest version of the program, it appears as if the Telnet window no longer has a minimize icon in the title bar at all. This means you will not be able to minimize it. If you don't want to be distracted by all of the spots zooming past in the Telnet window while it is open, you can move it almost all the way off the screen, leaving just enough of the title bar to be able to grab it and move it back onto the display whenever you need to access any of the menus or controls.

Hopefully the previous minimize functioning of the Telnet window will be restored soon.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:25 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

I read that, but it doesn't help.  I cannot find a Restore icon in the title bar of any of the windows I have open.  The discussion on the web page refers to a "My Computer" window.  I see on Microsoft that This PC has replaced it, but on my Windows 10 Pro machine, This PC has only a Restore Down button

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 12/16/2020 6:41 PM, Tom Wagner (N1MM) wrote:
https://flylib.com/books/en/2.406.1/objective_3_maximize_restore_minimize_and_close_a_window.html

On 12/16/2020 6:36 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

OK, Thanks Tom. Changing the Window State worked - thanks!  But I can't find the "restore button."  I've searched the manual and the term is not found.  Without it, minimizing the Telnet window seems like a one-way street, unless you go in and modify the .ini file.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 12/16/2020 5:47 PM, Tom Wagner (N1MM) wrote:
You minimized the Telnet window.  Click on the restore button, or change WindowState to 0.

Tom - N1MM

On 12/16/2020 5:24 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

I think the Grinch ate my Telnet window.

Running 1.0.8807, and it was working earlier this afternoon for CWT.  I closed MM+, reopened, and tried to open the Telnet window.  When nothing appeared, I checked the N1MM logger.ini file.  The [Telnet Client] entry read:

[TelnetClient]
Height=543
IsOpen=True
Left=-1550
Top=0
Width=1038
WindowState=1

Looked OK to me, except maybe the left position, but I have two 27" monitors and the Telnet window was on the left-hand one.

So then I I renamed yesterday's daily backup .ini file to replace the current one, but it yielded the same non-result, and when I looked at it, contents were the same.  So then I tried Left=0, thinking that would put it in the upper lefthand corner of my #1 monitor, but no joy.

There's nothing in the error log.  I'm stumped.  Any ideas?

-- 
73, Pete N4ZR
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