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locked Re: SSB band edges - quick question

Tom Osborne
 

It could be disqualification.

From the rules:  

" Unsportsmanlike Conduct: Examples of unsportsmanlike conduct include, but are not limited to:

"Transmissions by the entrant on frequencies outside of license limitations." 73
Tom W7WHY


On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 7:54 AM Bo W4GHV <bobarr@...> wrote:
Having a blast with my new toy (N1MM+)

Is there an adjustable SSB band plan where I can put the US SSB Extra limits in it?

I goofed and snagged a couple low!  How much is the ticket?

--
73, Bo W4GHV since '54


Re: Uncommanded Shutdown

ART W2NRA
 

Correction: Windows does occasionally Turn them On

And don’t forget to periodically recheck those USB ports on Device Manager.  Windows does occasionally turn them ON.  On Rich’s post I rechecked and found 6 that were in sleep mode.


73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On Oct 24, 2020, at 11:15 AM, ART W2NRA via groups.io <w2nra@...> wrote:

And don’t forget to periodically recheck those USB ports on Device Manager.  Windows does occasionally turn them off.  On Rich’s post I rechecked and found 6 that were in sleep mode.

Thank you, Rich

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955


Re: Uncommanded Shutdown

Gary K9GS
 

Hi Art,

I wish someone would create an app to periodically disable the USB sleep state.




73,

Gary K9GS


-------- Original message --------
From: "ART W2NRA via groups.io" <w2nra@...>
Date: 10/24/20 10:15 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Uncommanded Shutdown

And don’t forget to periodically recheck those USB ports on Device Manager.  Windows does occasionally turn them off.  On Rich’s post I rechecked and found 6 that were in sleep mode.

Thank you, Rich

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On Oct 24, 2020, at 10:12 AM, ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:

Have you changed the settings in Windows to prevent it from shutting down USB ports to save power?

See <http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/PreventUSBPortPowerDown> for a description of the steps you need to take to do this.

If you have already done this and if a Windows update hasn't interfered with your settings, then something else is going on. Try using one RTTY decoder program at a time to see if you can isolate it to one of the programs.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 09:56 AM, Jim Sharp wrote:
I also experienced the N1MM+ shutdowns several times similar to N0TA.
 
It happened while operating rtty during the JARTS test, requiring shutting down all the decoder windows so I could make a clean startup.
 
It also happened while away from the rig/computer for an hour or so. Like it was timing out


Re: Uncommanded Shutdown

ART W2NRA
 

And don’t forget to periodically recheck those USB ports on Device Manager.  Windows does occasionally turn them off.  On Rich’s post I rechecked and found 6 that were in sleep mode.

Thank you, Rich

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On Oct 24, 2020, at 10:12 AM, ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:

Have you changed the settings in Windows to prevent it from shutting down USB ports to save power?

See <http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/PreventUSBPortPowerDown> for a description of the steps you need to take to do this.

If you have already done this and if a Windows update hasn't interfered with your settings, then something else is going on. Try using one RTTY decoder program at a time to see if you can isolate it to one of the programs.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 09:56 AM, Jim Sharp wrote:
I also experienced the N1MM+ shutdowns several times similar to N0TA.
 
It happened while operating rtty during the JARTS test, requiring shutting down all the decoder windows so I could make a clean startup.
 
It also happened while away from the rig/computer for an hour or so. Like it was timing out


ESC Causes Fatal Error

John AC4CA
 

HItting ESC key terminates Logger+ with the following information...

N1MMLogger.net - Version 1.0.8701.0
Built: 10/13/2020 7:59:28 AM
Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.18363.0,64:1,en-US,en-US
Error occurred at: 10/24/2020 9:11:37 AM in Thread:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
System.AccessViolationException: Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt.
   at System.RuntimeType.ForwardCallToInvokeMember(String memberName, BindingFlags flags, Object target, Int32[] aWrapperTypes, MessageData& msgData)
   at N1MMV12WaveLib._DN1MMV12Wave.StopPlay()
   at AxN1MMV12WaveLib.AxN1MMV12Wave.StopPlay()
   at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.N1MMStopPlay() in C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 15177
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Call Stack before the runtime error:   at System.Environment.GetStackTrace(Exception e, Boolean needFileInfo)
   at System.Environment.get_StackTrace()
   at N1MMLibrary.SharedLib.CallStackString() in C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM Library\Classes\SharedCode.vb:line 91
   at N1MMLogger.Net.SharedCode.HandleError(Exception e, String PortName, String Info, String additionalInfoForLogFile) in C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM Logger.Net\Modules\SharedCode.vb:line 213
   at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.N1MMStopPlay() in C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 15185
   at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.StopSending(Boolean& KeepRepeat, Boolean EscPressed) in C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 4405
   at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.btn_stop_Click(Object eventSender, EventArgs eventArgs) in C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 4308
   at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.HandleKey(Int16& KeyCode, Boolean& ShiftDown, Boolean CtrlDown, Boolean AltDown, Boolean& HandleAll) in C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 11014
   at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.EntryWindow_KeyDown(Object eventSender, KeyEventArgs eventArgs) in C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 9410
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnKeyDown(KeyEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ProcessKeyEventArgs(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form.ProcessKeyPreview(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ProcessKeyPreview(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ProcessKeyMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmKeyChar(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.TextBox.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.DefWndProc(Message& m)
   at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.TextBoxMessageListener.WndProc(Message& m) in C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 22238
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
   at System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessageW(MSG& msg)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ComponentManager.System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.IMsoComponentManager.FPushMessageLoop(IntPtr dwComponentID, Int32 reason, Int32 pvLoopData)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoopInner(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoop(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context)
   at Microsoft.VisualBasic.ApplicationServices.WindowsFormsApplicationBase.OnRun()
   at Microsoft.VisualBasic.ApplicationServices.WindowsFormsApplicationBase.DoApplicationModel()
   at Microsoft.VisualBasic.ApplicationServices.WindowsFormsApplicationBase.Run(String[] commandLine)
   at N1MMLogger.Net.My.MyApplication.Main(String[] Args) in :line 82


Re: Uncommanded Shutdown

ve3ki
 

Have you changed the settings in Windows to prevent it from shutting down USB ports to save power?

See <http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/PreventUSBPortPowerDown> for a description of the steps you need to take to do this.

If you have already done this and if a Windows update hasn't interfered with your settings, then something else is going on. Try using one RTTY decoder program at a time to see if you can isolate it to one of the programs.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 09:56 AM, Jim Sharp wrote:
I also experienced the N1MM+ shutdowns several times similar to N0TA.
 
It happened while operating rtty during the JARTS test, requiring shutting down all the decoder windows so I could make a clean startup.
 
It also happened while away from the rig/computer for an hour or so. Like it was timing out


Re: Uncommanded Shutdown

Jim Sharp
 

I also experienced the N1MM+ shutdowns several times similar to N0TA.

It happened while operating rtty during the JARTS test, requiring shutting down all the decoder windows so I could make a clean startup.

It also happened while away from the rig/computer for an hour or so. Like it was timing out


Re: Callsign Voicing? My N1MM+ Doesn't Read

n7wy
 

You do NOT need 1-99 voiced.  You need 0-19 voiced plus 20, 30,..90; hundred and thousand.  See the N1MM docs for confirmation


Change Grayline Map Display

Ian Kahn
 

All,

I'm running N1MM Logger+ v1.0.8701.0 on a Win10 system. The grayline map is currently set up to display as a political map. I would like to change that to some other display format - I don't like that each country is further divided into its political subsections. However, I can't find the instructions, either in the app itself or in the online docs, on how to do that. Could someone please point me in the right direction?

Good luck in the CQWW SSB this weekend!

73 de,

Ian, NV4C


Re: good evening from DU1/N6HPX

 

thanks for the info will have to order the cable to do that, and will continue the add
ing frequency manually

Virus-free. www.avg.com


On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:46 AM ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:
The SignaLink does not do rig control - it's just a sound card with an added VOX circuit for PTT. If you want radio control so that the program knows what frequency and mode the radio are set to, you will need a CI-V interface to the computer.

You can use N1MM+ without radio control, but every time you change bands or modes you will have to type in the frequency (in kHz) or mode into the Entry window call sign box.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 08:41 AM, Larry fields wrote:
  Hello to the group here and I know I am new to this group, I am Larry and been using the N1MM+ for a few years now? my problem might have been addressed elsewhere but I am looking for advice here.
 
My radio here is an Icom 718 and I been trying to figure out how to get the radio to display the Frequency on the system, I am using the Signalink USB, I have tried the setup but it throws comments at me on it. Can I run this without the rig control, or is there a different way?

OPERATE 80-70CM SSB,AND DIGITAL MODES
NETS: 7095 KHZ 0900,1100& 2300 UTC 
DX1AFP 145.200 VHF ,432.440 MHZ
2m 144.109 usb,

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Re: Switching Winkeyer between 2 radios.

Chuck Kraly K0XM
 

Mike, and Tom, 
No Mike you read correctly, and I missed your reply. Yes that maybe the option, and then Tom's suggestion is a viable one also. I will discuss with Craig this week. Of course see everyone in CQWW this weekend (will be M/S at W0MB's)


Re: Callsign Voicing? My N1MM+ Doesn't Read

Mirko �ibilja
 

Hi Doug,

don't have any numbers .WAV files other than 0 through 9.  No 100s or hundreds.

I think you need numbers.WAV files from 0 to 99, then Hundred.WAV, 200.WAV, etc up to Thausand.WAV for advanced voicing. At least, I do have them and advanced voicing is working for me. By the way, I used W1VE tools for crating all those files...

73, Mirko, S57AD

V V pet., 23. okt. 2020 ob 21:47 je oseba Doug Jones <dougaf4t@...> napisala:

Using this folder structure for voicing files:
  • ...Documents\N1MM+ Logger\Wav
    • AF4T [Exchange.WAV, etc. are here]
    • LettersFiles
      • AF4T [Number and letter .WAVs are here]
I think the numbers and letters are where they are supposed to be, or at least N1MM+ doesn't complain that any of them are missing.  But I get the same result with the letter and number .WAV files anywhere in this folder structure, though.

don't have any numbers .WAV files other than 0 through 9.  No 100s or hundreds.

(Note: I have a Wav subdirectory in the N1MM+ program directory also, it had two files Assist.wav and Empty.wav.  I even dropped a NTFS junction to the two subfolders in the N1MM+ Logger %USERPROFILE%\Documents folder, still no luck.)



--
Mirko S57AD


Re: Callsign Voicing? My N1MM+ Doesn't Read

Doug Jones
 

Using this folder structure for voicing files:
  • ...Documents\N1MM+ Logger\Wav
    • AF4T [Exchange.WAV, etc. are here]
    • LettersFiles
      • AF4T [Number and letter .WAVs are here]
I think the numbers and letters are where they are supposed to be, or at least N1MM+ doesn't complain that any of them are missing.  But I get the same result with the letter and number .WAV files anywhere in this folder structure, though.

don't have any numbers .WAV files other than 0 through 9.  No 100s or hundreds.

(Note: I have a Wav subdirectory in the N1MM+ program directory also, it had two files Assist.wav and Empty.wav.  I even dropped a NTFS junction to the two subfolders in the N1MM+ Logger %USERPROFILE%\Documents folder, still no luck.)


Fw: Re: [N1MM+] HELP, PLEASE: RunTime Error - RESOLVED

Fred - NA2U
 

 I've been at this solid for almost an hour.  Many reboots later the program started.  Out, Murphy!
 
73,
 
Fred/NA2U


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From: "Mac" <mac@...>
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] HELP, PLEASE: RunTime Error
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:51:59 -0400

I immediately suspect antivirus preventing access.


73,
-Mac NT4D

On 10/23/2020 2:48 PM, Fred - NA2U wrote:
Tried to open N1MM on laptop this morning and got a very long error message which begins:  Run time error occurred during error processing.  System.UnauthorizedAccessException:  Access to the path 'C:\\Users\\F\\Documents\\N1MM Logger+\\LogError.txt is denied

Message goes on and on but Win 10 or groups.io won't allow me to past the error here.  Any suggestions on recovering?  Thanks

73 from the desert,
 
Fred/NA2U

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Re: HELP, PLEASE: RunTime Error

Mac
 

I immediately suspect antivirus preventing access.


73,
-Mac NT4D

On 10/23/2020 2:48 PM, Fred - NA2U wrote:
Tried to open N1MM on laptop this morning and got a very long error message which begins:  Run time error occurred during error processing.  System.UnauthorizedAccessException:  Access to the path 'C:\Users\F\Documents\N1MM Logger+\LogError.txt is denied

Message goes on and on but Win 10 or groups.io won't allow me to past the error here.  Any suggestions on recovering?  Thanks

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HELP, PLEASE: RunTime Error

Fred - NA2U
 

Tried to open N1MM on laptop this morning and got a very long error message which begins: Run time error occurred during error processing. System.UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path 'C:\Users\F\Documents\N1MM Logger+\LogError.txt is denied

Message goes on and on but Win 10 or groups.io won't allow me to past the error here. Any suggestions on recovering? Thanks

73 from the desert,

Fred/NA2U

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Re: N1MM Statistics with Graph - when was it first available?

Ronald Baran
 

TU Tim, 

I slid right by that window but, after you mentioned it, I went back, right clicked and found the what I was looking for.



Ron 
W9XS




From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> on behalf of Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:35 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM Statistics with Graph - when was it first available?
 
Ron, I think you're talking about the "Info" window. Go to Window->Info to open it. If it's already open it might be hidden behind some other window that is in front of it. More on the Info window: https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/manual-windows/info-window/

On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 3:10 PM Ronald Baran <ronbaran@...> wrote:
There's one window that I really liked and it had a running total of how many Qs per hour with a clock that indicated how many seconds/minutes or hours since your last Q.  Was doing ILQP last Sunday but I couldn't find that.  Where is it hiding?

Ron 
W9XS




From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> on behalf of Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 1:43 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM Statistics with Graph - when was it first available?
 
Thanks for that detail Larry. And extra big thanks to K3CT for the wonderful world of statistics graphs (plot anything vs anything it seems) inside the logger!

Tim N3QE

On Oct 21, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Larry K8UT <K8UT@...> wrote:


Tim 

Those graphs are the creative effort of John K3CT and they arrived with the release of N1MM+ in 2014.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Tim Shoppa" <tshoppa@...>
Sent: 2020-10-21 2:09:22 PM
Subject: [N1MM+] N1MM Statistics with Graph - when was it first available?

I've been using N1MM to log contest QSO's for over a decade, but only in the past couple years did I begin using View->Statistics then showing as a graph.

Some of my favorite graphs include Band vs Hour, and IsRunQSO vs Hour (to show run vs S&P emphasis).

When did the Statistics graph feature become available? Was it there all of the past decade+, and I only discovered it recently?

Tim N3QE

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Uncommanded Shutdown

John N0TA
 

During the JARTS RTTY contest, I had N1MM shutdown several times. Most occurred when I quit for a couple hours. When I came back, N1MM was closed; however, 2Tone and GRTTY were still running. At least twice while I was operating, N1MM shutdown (with 2Tone and GRTTY continuing to run). I was chatting with a friend this morning who experienced exactly the same thing, so thought it was worth mentioning.

I had N1MM up all day Wednesday for the CWOps contest -- no problem. It continued to stay up through last night's Sprints, again no problem. One of last night's Sprints was RTTY, so not sure if RTTY is the cause.
  - 73, John, N0TA


Re: Callsign Voicing? My N1MM+ Doesn't Read

Mirko �ibilja
 

Hi Doug,

do you have 100.wav and 1000.waf files or hundred.wav and thousand.wav? If you have 100.wav or 1000.wav, rename them, for advanced voicing won't work with 100 and 1000.WAV.

73, Mirko, S57AD

V V pet., 23. okt. 2020 ob 19:21 je oseba John GM0OPS via groups.io <j.m.dundas=btinternet.com@groups.io> napisala:

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 09:00 AM, Doug Jones wrote:
I have .WAV files for all letters and numbers.  Logger+ Audio Setup finds them OK and does not indicate anything missing.  "Concatenate audio files before playing" is checked.  "Use Logger+ Audio" is on.  SSB messages .MC file has the ! macro assigned to F5 key for Run and S&P modes both; the whole macro for both is "His Call,!"  Assigning and playing a separately recorded .WAV file to the other F keys (CQ, exchange) appear to work as intended.
Hi Doug

In your WAV folder do you have a folder with the Callsign your using? If not, create one and copy all the files into it and try and see if that works for you.

Regards
John
GM0OPS/MM9I



--
Mirko S57AD


Re: Callsign Voicing? My N1MM+ Doesn't Read

John GM0OPS
 

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 09:00 AM, Doug Jones wrote:
I have .WAV files for all letters and numbers.  Logger+ Audio Setup finds them OK and does not indicate anything missing.  "Concatenate audio files before playing" is checked.  "Use Logger+ Audio" is on.  SSB messages .MC file has the ! macro assigned to F5 key for Run and S&P modes both; the whole macro for both is "His Call,!"  Assigning and playing a separately recorded .WAV file to the other F keys (CQ, exchange) appear to work as intended.
Hi Doug

In your WAV folder do you have a folder with the Callsign your using? If not, create one and copy all the files into it and try and see if that works for you.

Regards
John
GM0OPS/MM9I

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