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Re: all data has disappeared

Ira Lipton
 

I located Windows Explorer, but selecting "details" next to view does not show an "options" selection.
 
 
 


From: "ve3ki" <ve3iay@...>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:28 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
IIRC, what WIndows 10 calls File Explorer is called Windows Explorer in Windows 7. The icon for it looks like a manila file folder in a blue holder, or just a plain manila folder. It can also be found in your Start menu, in the folder called Accessories in Windows 7 If you have an icon on your Desktop called Documents or My Documents or Computer or My Computer that looks like a manila file folder, this will also open the File (aka Windows) Explorer.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:41 AM, Ira Lipton wrote:
I am using Windows 7 Rich. The error did occur after I had changed the position of cables. Everything should be secure now. 
 
Forgive my ignorance, but I can't seem to find Windows File Manager. Please let me know how to locate it.
 
Thanks,
 
Ira
 
 
 

From: "ve3ki" <ve3iay@...>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 8:29 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
It sounds as if you have an older 32-bit operating system. If it's WIndows 7 or older, you might want to consider upgrading to Windows 10 at some point, but for now, let's focus on N1MM+.

We don't know whether the problem was in your ini file, in your database, a transient problem in the computer, a loose connector, or what. The sure path to success is not to flail around trying things at random and hoping to get lucky. That runs the risk of making things worse. Instead, let's go at things systematically.

First, do a physical check on all of the connectors between your radio, any interfaces, external equipment like sound cards, keyers, etc., and the computer. Make sure all the connections are solid. If you had not done anything else yet, you could simply retry the software now, but since you have made changes since then, we need to be more systematic.

Open Windows File Manager. Under View choose Details. Then, still under View, choose Options, Change folder and search options. This should open a dialog window with three tabs: General, View and Search. Select the View tab. There is a box called "Advanced settings" with a long list of check boxes in it. Half a dozen or so lines down the list, there is a check box called "Hide extensions for known file types". Make sure that check box is *not* checked - that's the only way to be sure you are seeing complete file names that are displayed the same way on everyone's computer.

Now move to the Documents\N1MM Logger+ folder. You should see a file there called n1mm logger,ini . There are probably also files with longer names, like n1mm logger.ini.Sunday.bak and so on, but the one we want is the one with the simple name. Right-click on that file, select Rename from the popup menu, and then without erasing the rest of the file name, tack something like ".suspect" (without the quotation marks) onto the end of the file name. This will guarantee that if the problem was in your ini file, it won't stop you from restarting the program, but later if it turns out the problem was somewhere else, it will be easier to find the original ini file and restore it.

OK, since you uninstalled the program, you are going to have to reinstall it. Go to the N1MM+ web site and download the full installer file (N1MM Logger+ FullInstaller 1.0.7711.exe). It doesn't matter much where you put it, since you are only going to run it once. Do that - run the installer program, choosing the default options along the way. I believe the full installer will ask you to restart the computer at the end of the installation. Do that, but after it has restarted, do not try to run N1MM+ yet. First, download the latest update file from the N1MM+ web site (right now, that is N1MM Logger+ Update 1.0.8293 (April 7, 2020)). Run the updater to update the program. This time you can let it start the program automatically, or if it doesn't, you can use the shortcut on the Desktop or in your Start menu to start the program.

You are starting with a brand-new ini file, so you will have to enter some configuration information. I believe the first step will be station information. The bare minimum you need to enter here is your station call sign and your ARRL section. You can enter the rest of the station information now, or leave it until a bit later.

At the next step, the program will give you a dialog window with three choices: Convert an existing .mdb database (not relevant; this is for upgrading from N1MM Logger Classic); Create a new N1MM Logger+ database (usually the best choice); or Open an existing N1MM Logger+ database (if you knew your database was OK, you could use this, but at this point you don't know that yet). Choose the Create a new database option. Give the new database a new name, such as WA2OAX_New.s3db . This will be a known-good database, but with no QSO data in it.

You should now have a working installation of N1MM+. What it is missing is your old log data and your station configuration information. Let's see if we can recover the log data first. In N1MM+, use the "File > Open database" menu item. See if you can find your old database (it might be called ham.s3db, or WA2OAX.s3db, or maybe some other name you gave it when you created it - just don't select a database whose name starts with N1MM, or with Do-Not_Use_...). Select the database file and click on Open to open it.

Did that work? If it did, your database is OK. The problem may have been in your ini file, or it may have been some transient issue that has hopefully gone away now. If opening the old database file did not work correctly, your old database has been corrupted. In this second case, you can get back to the previous step by closing down N1MM+, using File Manager to go to the Documents\N1MM Logger+ folder and deleting the n1mm logger.ini file (it's a new almost empty ini file, so you are not losing anything). Then start the program, and this time when given the three choices, choose the Open an existing database option and choose the new WA2OAX_New.s3db file to open. This will get you back to where you were before trying to open your old database,

The next steps depend on what happened with your old database, so I'm going to stop here until we find out whether your old database was OK or not.

73,
Rich VE3KI





On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:49 PM, Ira Lipton wrote:
p.s. I did locate the program files in C:\Program Files
 
 
 

From: "Ira Lipton" <wa2oax@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:39 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
Many thanks for the response Rich. I don't recall the exact error message, but I believe it was something like "an error has occurred ; N1MM+ may have been corrupted. Restart the program. If the error recurs contact the program administrator." 
 
I did, apparently erroneously, click on the latest N1MM+ update in the uninstall program.
 
I did find the N1MM+ folder in my documents folder which contains 39 subfolders. I backed up the folder, but will make sure the subfolders were backed up as well. I have not located the program files.
 
73,
 
Ira  WA2OAX
 
 
 

From: "ve3ki" <ve3iay@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:07 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
"all data has disappeared": Look in your Documents folder for an N1MM Logger+ folder. If that folder is still there, your data has not disappeared. Make a backup copy of the entire folder for safekeeping before doing anything else.

It would be helpful to know the complete contents of the error message that instructed you to restart the program. If it was a legitimate message, it is unlikely that it instructed you to restart the program without telling you at least something about the cause of the problem.

"after several tries": What exactly did you do during those tries? Either your computer has a virus that is deleting or hiding files, or you did something to delete the shortcut from your desktop.

If you looked in the "Uninstall" Control Panel and clicked on the program name, then you may have uninstalled the program. That removes the program from the Windows Registry and removes shortcuts to it from the Desktop and the Start menu, i.e it uninstalls it from your computer. It does not remove the data.

"I did find the program files": Where, i.e. what is the full path name of the folder or directory you found? The actual program folder is in C:\Program Files (x86) on most recent (64-bit Windows 10) computers, or in C:\Program Files on older 32-bit operating systems. The data files are stored elsewhere, usually in your Documents folder in a subfolder called N1MM Logger+. Does the folder you found contain several subfolders (CallHistoryFiles, Databases, Diagnostics, ExportFiles, ...) plus some files like n1mm logger.ini, n1mm logger.ini.Sunday.bak, n1mm logger.ini.Saturday.bak, and so on? If so, that is not the program folder, it is your user files, where all your data is stored. Make a backup copy of the entire folder, including subfolders, for safekeeping before doing anything else. 

Come back with as many answers as you can to the questions above and we can go from there.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 09:52 PM, Ira Lipton wrote:
I received an error message at N1MM+ startup instructing me to restart the program. After several tries the program seems to have disappeared from my desktop. I initially looked in the "uninstall" control panel file and only found the latest update. I clicked on it hoping that was the source of the error. N1MM+ and N1MM rotor then both disappeared from my desktop. I did find the program files after doing a search. Would greatly appreciate any suggestions.
 


Re: Morse Runner

Lee W4EIS
 

Thanks Mike

I missed the OTHER page 
73
Lee 

Al mal tiempo, buena cara

On Apr 13, 2020, at 11:52 AM, VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:


<dummyfile.0.part>

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 01:49 PM, Lee Clayton wrote:
Has Morse Runner been removed?  I don’t see the option in configuration

Al mal tiempo, buena cara

 
--
Mike VE9AA


Re: Offtime Not Tracked Properly in JIDX CW

Tom - N1MM
 

This will be fixed in Tuesday's build.  It will set the default in the future correctly. It will not retroactively change start times for contests all ready created.

If you want to calculate your time off, you will need to change the start time by clicking on the start time in the open log dialog.  Change it to 0700.

73,
Tom - N1MM


Offtime Not Tracked Properly in JIDX CW

Bob Epstein K8IA
 

At the end of JIDX CW, I brought up the Offtimes window and noticed that the Time Off/Time On was tracked incorrectly. The routine ignored the time I operated on 4/12.

Looking closer, the Offtime window began with, "Japan International DX Contest - CW - 2020-04-11 0000Z to 2020-04-12 0600Z - 450 QSOs". The actual contest duration should read 2020-04-11 0700Z to 2020-04-12 1300Z. Would that be the cause of it incorrectly tracking my Time Off/Time On?

Clearly this is not a big deal. Especially since JIDX CW is a open contest with a 30 hour duration and no time restriction. But something someone should look at when they have time.

http://jidx.org/jidxrule-e.html

Tnx

73, Bob K8IA
Arizona Outlaws Contest Club

 


Re: Morse Runner

VE9AA - Mike
 


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 01:49 PM, Lee Clayton wrote:
Has Morse Runner been removed?  I don’t see the option in configuration

Al mal tiempo, buena cara

 
--
Mike VE9AA


Morse Runner

Lee W4EIS
 

Has Morse Runner been removed?  I don’t see the option in configuration

Al mal tiempo, buena cara


Re: adif from N1MM to N3FJP

VE9VIC...Rino
 
Edited

Thank To Rich, VE3KI,  my problem is solved with Adif master. I opened my N1MM Adif file with Adif master, there is a row named CQZ in the Yuri Gararin contest log , I used Adif master option to change it from CQZ to not used, then when I imported the N1MM Adif to my N3FJP log I got all the ITU number at the right place and all the right CQ number also at the right place, all the better.

ve9vic


Re: adif from N1MM to N3FJP

ve3ki
 

Yes, ADIF files are text files and can be edited with Notepad. For a simple change like this, that is all that is needed. For more complicated editing, I use ADIF Master (<http://www.dxshell.com/adif-master.html>).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:22 PM, VE9VIC...Rino wrote:
Thank Rich , I will get a text editor to edit my Adif before I import it to my N3FJP log, I can open my Adif with notepad and edit with a text editor if I understand well ?


Re: adif from N1MM to N3FJP

VE9VIC...Rino
 

Thank Rich , I will get a text editor to edit my Adif before I import it to my N3FJP log, I can open my Adif with notepad and edit with a text editor if I understand well ?


Re: adif from N1MM to N3FJP

ve3ki
 

ADIF works well for basic QSO data, but when it comes to contest exchanges, it seems as if every logging program handles them differently. I don't know what fields N3FJP uses on import, but that is not really the problem here. Your problem is that N1MM+ is exporting a field called CQZ in a situation where the actual CQ zone is not always known (i.e. a contest where the exchange is not the CQ zone), and in such cases the contents of the CQZ field exported from N1MM+ are unreliable. If you are transferring an ADIF file for such a contest (i.e. most contests other than the CQ WW contests and a few others), you can safely remove the CQZ field from the exported ADIF file. The easiest way to do this is to use a text editor to do a "replace all" to change <CQZ: to something else that won't be imported by the other program, such as <IGNORE: .When you import such a modified file into another program, it will be the responsibility of the receiving program to decide what to do about the missing CQZ information, such as leaving the CQZ field in the newly imported log blank.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:03 PM, VE9VIC...Rino wrote:
HI , I did the Yuri Gararin contest, the exchange are only RST and ITU zone,  I exported my Adif to file ,from N1MM to a folder, then I import the same file with my N3fjp log, the only problem is that the ITU zone number, from N1MM fill not only his place in the N3FJP log ,but also the CQ zone box , CQ zone and ITU zone are not supposed to be the same.
N1MM version V1.0.8293.0,  running window 10, cpu 2.40 Ghz, 64 bits.

Maybe some else had the same problem before, it's my first time here so I hope all the info needed for my question are here, the N1MM program is working just fine.

Thank, 73
VE9VIC


adif from N1MM to N3FJP

VE9VIC...Rino
 
Edited

HI , I did the Yuri Gararin contest, the exchange are only RST and ITU zone,  I exported my Adif to file ,from N1MM to a folder, then I import the same file with my N3fjp log, the only problem is that the ITU zone number, from N1MM fill not only his place in the N3FJP log ,but also the CQ zone box , CQ zone and ITU zone are not supposed to be the same.
N1MM version V1.0.8293.0,  running window 10, cpu 2.40 Ghz, 64 bits.

Maybe some else had the same problem before, it's my first time here so I hope all the info needed for my question are here, the N1MM program is working just fine.
In the Yuri Gararin contest the is no CQ zone asked and there is no place on the N1MM log to put a number for CQ zone only ITU zone number on the N1MM log.

Thank, 73
VE9VIC


Re: all data has disappeared

ve3ki
 

IIRC, what WIndows 10 calls File Explorer is called Windows Explorer in Windows 7. The icon for it looks like a manila file folder in a blue holder, or just a plain manila folder. It can also be found in your Start menu, in the folder called Accessories in Windows 7 If you have an icon on your Desktop called Documents or My Documents or Computer or My Computer that looks like a manila file folder, this will also open the File (aka Windows) Explorer.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:41 AM, Ira Lipton wrote:
I am using Windows 7 Rich. The error did occur after I had changed the position of cables. Everything should be secure now. 
 
Forgive my ignorance, but I can't seem to find Windows File Manager. Please let me know how to locate it.
 
Thanks,
 
Ira
 
 
 

From: "ve3ki" <ve3iay@...>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 8:29 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
It sounds as if you have an older 32-bit operating system. If it's WIndows 7 or older, you might want to consider upgrading to Windows 10 at some point, but for now, let's focus on N1MM+.

We don't know whether the problem was in your ini file, in your database, a transient problem in the computer, a loose connector, or what. The sure path to success is not to flail around trying things at random and hoping to get lucky. That runs the risk of making things worse. Instead, let's go at things systematically.

First, do a physical check on all of the connectors between your radio, any interfaces, external equipment like sound cards, keyers, etc., and the computer. Make sure all the connections are solid. If you had not done anything else yet, you could simply retry the software now, but since you have made changes since then, we need to be more systematic.

Open Windows File Manager. Under View choose Details. Then, still under View, choose Options, Change folder and search options. This should open a dialog window with three tabs: General, View and Search. Select the View tab. There is a box called "Advanced settings" with a long list of check boxes in it. Half a dozen or so lines down the list, there is a check box called "Hide extensions for known file types". Make sure that check box is *not* checked - that's the only way to be sure you are seeing complete file names that are displayed the same way on everyone's computer.

Now move to the Documents\N1MM Logger+ folder. You should see a file there called n1mm logger,ini . There are probably also files with longer names, like n1mm logger.ini.Sunday.bak and so on, but the one we want is the one with the simple name. Right-click on that file, select Rename from the popup menu, and then without erasing the rest of the file name, tack something like ".suspect" (without the quotation marks) onto the end of the file name. This will guarantee that if the problem was in your ini file, it won't stop you from restarting the program, but later if it turns out the problem was somewhere else, it will be easier to find the original ini file and restore it.

OK, since you uninstalled the program, you are going to have to reinstall it. Go to the N1MM+ web site and download the full installer file (N1MM Logger+ FullInstaller 1.0.7711.exe). It doesn't matter much where you put it, since you are only going to run it once. Do that - run the installer program, choosing the default options along the way. I believe the full installer will ask you to restart the computer at the end of the installation. Do that, but after it has restarted, do not try to run N1MM+ yet. First, download the latest update file from the N1MM+ web site (right now, that is N1MM Logger+ Update 1.0.8293 (April 7, 2020)). Run the updater to update the program. This time you can let it start the program automatically, or if it doesn't, you can use the shortcut on the Desktop or in your Start menu to start the program.

You are starting with a brand-new ini file, so you will have to enter some configuration information. I believe the first step will be station information. The bare minimum you need to enter here is your station call sign and your ARRL section. You can enter the rest of the station information now, or leave it until a bit later.

At the next step, the program will give you a dialog window with three choices: Convert an existing .mdb database (not relevant; this is for upgrading from N1MM Logger Classic); Create a new N1MM Logger+ database (usually the best choice); or Open an existing N1MM Logger+ database (if you knew your database was OK, you could use this, but at this point you don't know that yet). Choose the Create a new database option. Give the new database a new name, such as WA2OAX_New.s3db . This will be a known-good database, but with no QSO data in it.

You should now have a working installation of N1MM+. What it is missing is your old log data and your station configuration information. Let's see if we can recover the log data first. In N1MM+, use the "File > Open database" menu item. See if you can find your old database (it might be called ham.s3db, or WA2OAX.s3db, or maybe some other name you gave it when you created it - just don't select a database whose name starts with N1MM, or with Do-Not_Use_...). Select the database file and click on Open to open it.

Did that work? If it did, your database is OK. The problem may have been in your ini file, or it may have been some transient issue that has hopefully gone away now. If opening the old database file did not work correctly, your old database has been corrupted. In this second case, you can get back to the previous step by closing down N1MM+, using File Manager to go to the Documents\N1MM Logger+ folder and deleting the n1mm logger.ini file (it's a new almost empty ini file, so you are not losing anything). Then start the program, and this time when given the three choices, choose the Open an existing database option and choose the new WA2OAX_New.s3db file to open. This will get you back to where you were before trying to open your old database,

The next steps depend on what happened with your old database, so I'm going to stop here until we find out whether your old database was OK or not.

73,
Rich VE3KI





On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:49 PM, Ira Lipton wrote:
p.s. I did locate the program files in C:\Program Files
 
 
 

From: "Ira Lipton" <wa2oax@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:39 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
Many thanks for the response Rich. I don't recall the exact error message, but I believe it was something like "an error has occurred ; N1MM+ may have been corrupted. Restart the program. If the error recurs contact the program administrator." 
 
I did, apparently erroneously, click on the latest N1MM+ update in the uninstall program.
 
I did find the N1MM+ folder in my documents folder which contains 39 subfolders. I backed up the folder, but will make sure the subfolders were backed up as well. I have not located the program files.
 
73,
 
Ira  WA2OAX
 
 
 

From: "ve3ki" <ve3iay@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:07 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
"all data has disappeared": Look in your Documents folder for an N1MM Logger+ folder. If that folder is still there, your data has not disappeared. Make a backup copy of the entire folder for safekeeping before doing anything else.

It would be helpful to know the complete contents of the error message that instructed you to restart the program. If it was a legitimate message, it is unlikely that it instructed you to restart the program without telling you at least something about the cause of the problem.

"after several tries": What exactly did you do during those tries? Either your computer has a virus that is deleting or hiding files, or you did something to delete the shortcut from your desktop.

If you looked in the "Uninstall" Control Panel and clicked on the program name, then you may have uninstalled the program. That removes the program from the Windows Registry and removes shortcuts to it from the Desktop and the Start menu, i.e it uninstalls it from your computer. It does not remove the data.

"I did find the program files": Where, i.e. what is the full path name of the folder or directory you found? The actual program folder is in C:\Program Files (x86) on most recent (64-bit Windows 10) computers, or in C:\Program Files on older 32-bit operating systems. The data files are stored elsewhere, usually in your Documents folder in a subfolder called N1MM Logger+. Does the folder you found contain several subfolders (CallHistoryFiles, Databases, Diagnostics, ExportFiles, ...) plus some files like n1mm logger.ini, n1mm logger.ini.Sunday.bak, n1mm logger.ini.Saturday.bak, and so on? If so, that is not the program folder, it is your user files, where all your data is stored. Make a backup copy of the entire folder, including subfolders, for safekeeping before doing anything else. 

Come back with as many answers as you can to the questions above and we can go from there.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 09:52 PM, Ira Lipton wrote:
I received an error message at N1MM+ startup instructing me to restart the program. After several tries the program seems to have disappeared from my desktop. I initially looked in the "uninstall" control panel file and only found the latest update. I clicked on it hoping that was the source of the error. N1MM+ and N1MM rotor then both disappeared from my desktop. I did find the program files after doing a search. Would greatly appreciate any suggestions.
 


Re: all data has disappeared

Ira Lipton
 

I am using Windows 7 Rich. The error did occur after I had changed the position of cables. Everything should be secure now. 
 
Forgive my ignorance, but I can't seem to find Windows File Manager. Please let me know how to locate it.
 
Thanks,
 
Ira
 
 
 


From: "ve3ki" <ve3iay@...>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 8:29 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
It sounds as if you have an older 32-bit operating system. If it's WIndows 7 or older, you might want to consider upgrading to Windows 10 at some point, but for now, let's focus on N1MM+.

We don't know whether the problem was in your ini file, in your database, a transient problem in the computer, a loose connector, or what. The sure path to success is not to flail around trying things at random and hoping to get lucky. That runs the risk of making things worse. Instead, let's go at things systematically.

First, do a physical check on all of the connectors between your radio, any interfaces, external equipment like sound cards, keyers, etc., and the computer. Make sure all the connections are solid. If you had not done anything else yet, you could simply retry the software now, but since you have made changes since then, we need to be more systematic.

Open Windows File Manager. Under View choose Details. Then, still under View, choose Options, Change folder and search options. This should open a dialog window with three tabs: General, View and Search. Select the View tab. There is a box called "Advanced settings" with a long list of check boxes in it. Half a dozen or so lines down the list, there is a check box called "Hide extensions for known file types". Make sure that check box is *not* checked - that's the only way to be sure you are seeing complete file names that are displayed the same way on everyone's computer.

Now move to the Documents\N1MM Logger+ folder. You should see a file there called n1mm logger,ini . There are probably also files with longer names, like n1mm logger.ini.Sunday.bak and so on, but the one we want is the one with the simple name. Right-click on that file, select Rename from the popup menu, and then without erasing the rest of the file name, tack something like ".suspect" (without the quotation marks) onto the end of the file name. This will guarantee that if the problem was in your ini file, it won't stop you from restarting the program, but later if it turns out the problem was somewhere else, it will be easier to find the original ini file and restore it.

OK, since you uninstalled the program, you are going to have to reinstall it. Go to the N1MM+ web site and download the full installer file (N1MM Logger+ FullInstaller 1.0.7711.exe). It doesn't matter much where you put it, since you are only going to run it once. Do that - run the installer program, choosing the default options along the way. I believe the full installer will ask you to restart the computer at the end of the installation. Do that, but after it has restarted, do not try to run N1MM+ yet. First, download the latest update file from the N1MM+ web site (right now, that is N1MM Logger+ Update 1.0.8293 (April 7, 2020)). Run the updater to update the program. This time you can let it start the program automatically, or if it doesn't, you can use the shortcut on the Desktop or in your Start menu to start the program.

You are starting with a brand-new ini file, so you will have to enter some configuration information. I believe the first step will be station information. The bare minimum you need to enter here is your station call sign and your ARRL section. You can enter the rest of the station information now, or leave it until a bit later.

At the next step, the program will give you a dialog window with three choices: Convert an existing .mdb database (not relevant; this is for upgrading from N1MM Logger Classic); Create a new N1MM Logger+ database (usually the best choice); or Open an existing N1MM Logger+ database (if you knew your database was OK, you could use this, but at this point you don't know that yet). Choose the Create a new database option. Give the new database a new name, such as WA2OAX_New.s3db . This will be a known-good database, but with no QSO data in it.

You should now have a working installation of N1MM+. What it is missing is your old log data and your station configuration information. Let's see if we can recover the log data first. In N1MM+, use the "File > Open database" menu item. See if you can find your old database (it might be called ham.s3db, or WA2OAX.s3db, or maybe some other name you gave it when you created it - just don't select a database whose name starts with N1MM, or with Do-Not_Use_...). Select the database file and click on Open to open it.

Did that work? If it did, your database is OK. The problem may have been in your ini file, or it may have been some transient issue that has hopefully gone away now. If opening the old database file did not work correctly, your old database has been corrupted. In this second case, you can get back to the previous step by closing down N1MM+, using File Manager to go to the Documents\N1MM Logger+ folder and deleting the n1mm logger.ini file (it's a new almost empty ini file, so you are not losing anything). Then start the program, and this time when given the three choices, choose the Open an existing database option and choose the new WA2OAX_New.s3db file to open. This will get you back to where you were before trying to open your old database,

The next steps depend on what happened with your old database, so I'm going to stop here until we find out whether your old database was OK or not.

73,
Rich VE3KI





On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:49 PM, Ira Lipton wrote:
p.s. I did locate the program files in C:\Program Files
 
 
 

From: "Ira Lipton" <wa2oax@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:39 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
Many thanks for the response Rich. I don't recall the exact error message, but I believe it was something like "an error has occurred ; N1MM+ may have been corrupted. Restart the program. If the error recurs contact the program administrator." 
 
I did, apparently erroneously, click on the latest N1MM+ update in the uninstall program.
 
I did find the N1MM+ folder in my documents folder which contains 39 subfolders. I backed up the folder, but will make sure the subfolders were backed up as well. I have not located the program files.
 
73,
 
Ira  WA2OAX
 
 
 

From: "ve3ki" <ve3iay@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:07 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
"all data has disappeared": Look in your Documents folder for an N1MM Logger+ folder. If that folder is still there, your data has not disappeared. Make a backup copy of the entire folder for safekeeping before doing anything else.

It would be helpful to know the complete contents of the error message that instructed you to restart the program. If it was a legitimate message, it is unlikely that it instructed you to restart the program without telling you at least something about the cause of the problem.

"after several tries": What exactly did you do during those tries? Either your computer has a virus that is deleting or hiding files, or you did something to delete the shortcut from your desktop.

If you looked in the "Uninstall" Control Panel and clicked on the program name, then you may have uninstalled the program. That removes the program from the Windows Registry and removes shortcuts to it from the Desktop and the Start menu, i.e it uninstalls it from your computer. It does not remove the data.

"I did find the program files": Where, i.e. what is the full path name of the folder or directory you found? The actual program folder is in C:\Program Files (x86) on most recent (64-bit Windows 10) computers, or in C:\Program Files on older 32-bit operating systems. The data files are stored elsewhere, usually in your Documents folder in a subfolder called N1MM Logger+. Does the folder you found contain several subfolders (CallHistoryFiles, Databases, Diagnostics, ExportFiles, ...) plus some files like n1mm logger.ini, n1mm logger.ini.Sunday.bak, n1mm logger.ini.Saturday.bak, and so on? If so, that is not the program folder, it is your user files, where all your data is stored. Make a backup copy of the entire folder, including subfolders, for safekeeping before doing anything else. 

Come back with as many answers as you can to the questions above and we can go from there.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 09:52 PM, Ira Lipton wrote:
I received an error message at N1MM+ startup instructing me to restart the program. After several tries the program seems to have disappeared from my desktop. I initially looked in the "uninstall" control panel file and only found the latest update. I clicked on it hoping that was the source of the error. N1MM+ and N1MM rotor then both disappeared from my desktop. I did find the program files after doing a search. Would greatly appreciate any suggestions.
 


How do I transmit CW with Icom IC-7000 and G4ZLP DigiMaster Pro3?

EI8KF
 

The question is in the header, I can't for the life of me fathom how to get to transmit CW from N1MM with my IC-7000 and DigiMaster Pro3.
Rig is set to CW, Com Port is correct, I had this working before a while ago but as I'm not much into contesting I don't recall how I did get it to work before.
Any help much appreciated...

Andrew


Re: GAQP W4AN not showing as worked?

Alan Higbie
 

Actually I had same experience as Gary described - - it was W4AN.

When it didn't show as dupe - it was when W4AN giving out a different county: MUSC vs. HARR (worked first)

Not sure how N1MM+ knew what county they'd be giving out . . . but then again I really don't understand a lot of what goes on behind the N1MM+ curtain.

~ Alan
K0AV 


Re: GAQP W4AN not showing as worked?

VE9AA - Mike
 

H John and Gary

I'm not in the shack, but I'd say my experience mirrors Gary\s to a "T".
I can double check tonight, but I don't think I was using a call history file (unless it was preloaded automatically-I didn't set it myself)

tnx

Mike VE9AA

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:33 AM, Gary K9GS wrote:
Hi John,
 
I was using spots from VE7CC which included skimmer.
 
When I first worked W4NT all worked normally. Then there must have been a subsequent spot and W4NT was shown in the band map in blue.  I even listened thinking they might have been in a different county since they were a distributed multi , but the county was the same as before.
 
On different bands it was the same thing..W4NT was always blue in the band map regardless of band. I worked W4NT on several bands.
 
I did work W4NT on different bands in different counties.  I think that they may have been on different bands and in different countys at the same time.
 
I was not using a preloaded call history file.
 
W4NT was the only station I noticed with this behavior. Yeah..odd I know.
 
Does any of this help?
 
 
73,
 
Gary K9GS

 
--
Mike VE9AA


Re: GAQP W4AN not showing as worked?

Gary K9GS
 

Hi John,

I was using spots from VE7CC which included skimmer.

When I first worked W4NT all worked normally. Then there must have been a subsequent spot and W4NT was shown in the band map in blue.  I even listened thinking they might have been in a different county since they were a distributed multi , but the county was the same as before.

On different bands it was the same thing..W4NT was always blue in the band map regardless of band. I worked W4NT on several bands.

I did work W4NT on different bands in different counties.  I think that they may have been on different bands and in different countys at the same time.

I was not using a preloaded call history file.

W4NT was the only station I noticed with this behavior. Yeah..odd I know.

Does any of this help?


73,

Gary K9GS


-------- Original message --------
From: "John Bednar via groups.io" <k3ct@...>
Date: 4/13/20 6:26 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] GAQP W4AN not showing as worked?

Mike & Gary,

 

I logged W4NT on 40m CW and then self spotted W4NT on a different frequency. The spot was gray in my Bandmap.

 

Is it possible that the mode of the incoming spot (which is often assigned based on your frequency to mode table) was for an un-worked mode?

 

If you were using Call History, did it contain a different county than W4NT was sending?

 

Can you duplicate your report and post the steps to reproduce?

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary K9GS
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 4:08 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] GAQP W4AN not showing as worked?

 

My mistake..it is W4NT. Not W4AN

 

 

 

 

73,

 

Gary K9GS

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...>

Date: 4/11/20 2:31 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io

Subject: Re: [N1MM+] GAQP W4AN not showing as worked?

 

When you figure it out, pse lemme know Gary.  For me, it's W4NT that keeps showing as "blue" *(workable)
I don't know if this stn is a distributed m/m, but I copied 2 different counties between 20m and 40m, so that *may* be
why I am seeing this.

Tnx

Mike VE9AA "not a contender" (just for fun this time)
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 04:29 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:

I've been playing around in the GA QSO Party and noticed something ONLY with the W4AN callsign.

 

I worked W4AN on both 40 and 20 CW but the call does not show as worked in the band map.

 

All other GA calls OK.  Scratching my head on this one. 

 

 

 

73,

 

Gary K9GS


 
--
Mike VE9AA


Re: all data has disappeared

ve3ki
 

It sounds as if you have an older 32-bit operating system. If it's WIndows 7 or older, you might want to consider upgrading to Windows 10 at some point, but for now, let's focus on N1MM+.

We don't know whether the problem was in your ini file, in your database, a transient problem in the computer, a loose connector, or what. The sure path to success is not to flail around trying things at random and hoping to get lucky. That runs the risk of making things worse. Instead, let's go at things systematically.

First, do a physical check on all of the connectors between your radio, any interfaces, external equipment like sound cards, keyers, etc., and the computer. Make sure all the connections are solid. If you had not done anything else yet, you could simply retry the software now, but since you have made changes since then, we need to be more systematic.

Open Windows File Manager. Under View choose Details. Then, still under View, choose Options, Change folder and search options. This should open a dialog window with three tabs: General, View and Search. Select the View tab. There is a box called "Advanced settings" with a long list of check boxes in it. Half a dozen or so lines down the list, there is a check box called "Hide extensions for known file types". Make sure that check box is *not* checked - that's the only way to be sure you are seeing complete file names that are displayed the same way on everyone's computer.

Now move to the Documents\N1MM Logger+ folder. You should see a file there called n1mm logger,ini . There are probably also files with longer names, like n1mm logger.ini.Sunday.bak and so on, but the one we want is the one with the simple name. Right-click on that file, select Rename from the popup menu, and then without erasing the rest of the file name, tack something like ".suspect" (without the quotation marks) onto the end of the file name. This will guarantee that if the problem was in your ini file, it won't stop you from restarting the program, but later if it turns out the problem was somewhere else, it will be easier to find the original ini file and restore it.

OK, since you uninstalled the program, you are going to have to reinstall it. Go to the N1MM+ web site and download the full installer file (N1MM Logger+ FullInstaller 1.0.7711.exe). It doesn't matter much where you put it, since you are only going to run it once. Do that - run the installer program, choosing the default options along the way. I believe the full installer will ask you to restart the computer at the end of the installation. Do that, but after it has restarted, do not try to run N1MM+ yet. First, download the latest update file from the N1MM+ web site (right now, that is N1MM Logger+ Update 1.0.8293 (April 7, 2020)). Run the updater to update the program. This time you can let it start the program automatically, or if it doesn't, you can use the shortcut on the Desktop or in your Start menu to start the program.

You are starting with a brand-new ini file, so you will have to enter some configuration information. I believe the first step will be station information. The bare minimum you need to enter here is your station call sign and your ARRL section. You can enter the rest of the station information now, or leave it until a bit later.

At the next step, the program will give you a dialog window with three choices: Convert an existing .mdb database (not relevant; this is for upgrading from N1MM Logger Classic); Create a new N1MM Logger+ database (usually the best choice); or Open an existing N1MM Logger+ database (if you knew your database was OK, you could use this, but at this point you don't know that yet). Choose the Create a new database option. Give the new database a new name, such as WA2OAX_New.s3db . This will be a known-good database, but with no QSO data in it.

You should now have a working installation of N1MM+. What it is missing is your old log data and your station configuration information. Let's see if we can recover the log data first. In N1MM+, use the "File > Open database" menu item. See if you can find your old database (it might be called ham.s3db, or WA2OAX.s3db, or maybe some other name you gave it when you created it - just don't select a database whose name starts with N1MM, or with Do-Not_Use_...). Select the database file and click on Open to open it.

Did that work? If it did, your database is OK. The problem may have been in your ini file, or it may have been some transient issue that has hopefully gone away now. If opening the old database file did not work correctly, your old database has been corrupted. In this second case, you can get back to the previous step by closing down N1MM+, using File Manager to go to the Documents\N1MM Logger+ folder and deleting the n1mm logger.ini file (it's a new almost empty ini file, so you are not losing anything). Then start the program, and this time when given the three choices, choose the Open an existing database option and choose the new WA2OAX_New.s3db file to open. This will get you back to where you were before trying to open your old database,

The next steps depend on what happened with your old database, so I'm going to stop here until we find out whether your old database was OK or not.

73,
Rich VE3KI





On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:49 PM, Ira Lipton wrote:
p.s. I did locate the program files in C:\Program Files
 
 
 

From: "Ira Lipton" <wa2oax@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:39 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
Many thanks for the response Rich. I don't recall the exact error message, but I believe it was something like "an error has occurred ; N1MM+ may have been corrupted. Restart the program. If the error recurs contact the program administrator." 
 
I did, apparently erroneously, click on the latest N1MM+ update in the uninstall program.
 
I did find the N1MM+ folder in my documents folder which contains 39 subfolders. I backed up the folder, but will make sure the subfolders were backed up as well. I have not located the program files.
 
73,
 
Ira  WA2OAX
 
 
 

From: "ve3ki" <ve3iay@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:07 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] all data has disappeared
 
"all data has disappeared": Look in your Documents folder for an N1MM Logger+ folder. If that folder is still there, your data has not disappeared. Make a backup copy of the entire folder for safekeeping before doing anything else.

It would be helpful to know the complete contents of the error message that instructed you to restart the program. If it was a legitimate message, it is unlikely that it instructed you to restart the program without telling you at least something about the cause of the problem.

"after several tries": What exactly did you do during those tries? Either your computer has a virus that is deleting or hiding files, or you did something to delete the shortcut from your desktop.

If you looked in the "Uninstall" Control Panel and clicked on the program name, then you may have uninstalled the program. That removes the program from the Windows Registry and removes shortcuts to it from the Desktop and the Start menu, i.e it uninstalls it from your computer. It does not remove the data.

"I did find the program files": Where, i.e. what is the full path name of the folder or directory you found? The actual program folder is in C:\Program Files (x86) on most recent (64-bit Windows 10) computers, or in C:\Program Files on older 32-bit operating systems. The data files are stored elsewhere, usually in your Documents folder in a subfolder called N1MM Logger+. Does the folder you found contain several subfolders (CallHistoryFiles, Databases, Diagnostics, ExportFiles, ...) plus some files like n1mm logger.ini, n1mm logger.ini.Sunday.bak, n1mm logger.ini.Saturday.bak, and so on? If so, that is not the program folder, it is your user files, where all your data is stored. Make a backup copy of the entire folder, including subfolders, for safekeeping before doing anything else. 

Come back with as many answers as you can to the questions above and we can go from there.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 09:52 PM, Ira Lipton wrote:
I received an error message at N1MM+ startup instructing me to restart the program. After several tries the program seems to have disappeared from my desktop. I initially looked in the "uninstall" control panel file and only found the latest update. I clicked on it hoping that was the source of the error. N1MM+ and N1MM rotor then both disappeared from my desktop. I did find the program files after doing a search. Would greatly appreciate any suggestions.
 


Re: GAQP W4AN not showing as worked?

John Bednar
 

Mike & Gary,

 

I logged W4NT on 40m CW and then self spotted W4NT on a different frequency. The spot was gray in my Bandmap.

 

Is it possible that the mode of the incoming spot (which is often assigned based on your frequency to mode table) was for an un-worked mode?

 

If you were using Call History, did it contain a different county than W4NT was sending?

 

Can you duplicate your report and post the steps to reproduce?

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary K9GS
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 4:08 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] GAQP W4AN not showing as worked?

 

My mistake..it is W4NT. Not W4AN

 

 

 

 

73,

 

Gary K9GS

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...>

Date: 4/11/20 2:31 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io

Subject: Re: [N1MM+] GAQP W4AN not showing as worked?

 

When you figure it out, pse lemme know Gary.  For me, it's W4NT that keeps showing as "blue" *(workable)
I don't know if this stn is a distributed m/m, but I copied 2 different counties between 20m and 40m, so that *may* be
why I am seeing this.

Tnx

Mike VE9AA "not a contender" (just for fun this time)
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 04:29 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:

I've been playing around in the GA QSO Party and noticed something ONLY with the W4AN callsign.

 

I worked W4AN on both 40 and 20 CW but the call does not show as worked in the band map.

 

All other GA calls OK.  Scratching my head on this one. 

 

 

 

73,

 

Gary K9GS


 
--
Mike VE9AA


Re: Cabrillo CLUB

Les C. VA7RN
 

Thank you


On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:21 AM Tom Wagner (N1MM) <n1mmtomwagner@...> wrote:
Config/Change Your Station Data

On 4/12/2020 2:17 PM, Les C. VA7RN wrote:
> When I produce the cabrillo log for each contest I enter, the line
> CLUB is filled in with my club name as "ORCADXCC".
> The ARRL official name of my club is listed as "ORCA DX AND CONTEST
> CLUB" so every time I upload my log to the contest sponsors, or for
> example, 3830 I have to change this line.
> Is there a way to correct this line so that I do not have to edit my
> cabrillo file every time?
> Thanks,
> Les, VA7RN
>



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