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Re: band button in entry window, fixed

gksmith_1
 

Hi Mike,

No, I do not think that this is a serious problem, but I appreciate that you took time to reply,

This entry of mine was not to make this seem like a serious problem.

As I had said previously, now that I know how to  avoid it, by shutting down the Bandmap prior to shutting down N1MM, it will not cause me any more grief.

However, having said that, I did want to let the development team know that the problem was not solved, and to ensure that I had adequately described the problem without ambiguity in case anyone else thought that this was just a small indication of a larger problem.

As  far as I am concerned I will not pursue it any further.

Thanks to all for all the hard work that is done on this project, and I, with my simple setup, will continue to enjoy the contests and the ease with which a contest can be conducted using N1MM Logger.

73 de WA3ZSC - Jerry


Re: band button in entry window, fixed

VE9AA - Mike
 

Please don't take this the wrong way, but it would appear you think this is a very serious issue. (because of the plethora of detailed messages)
(until they get it fixed--if it's broken), couldn't you just hit the band button on the front panel
of your radio
or
type the frequency into the log entry window (where a callsign normally goes)
(or even click on a spot if you're assisted, in the avail mults/q's window)

In >150,000 Q's the past 10 yrs I've used the band buttons a few dozen times and it doesn't seem to slow me down any.

I am not making light of the issue, just offering that there are at least 3 other ways to make your logger go to a certain freq.

GL with your issue.

With respect,

Mike VE9AA
--
Mike VE9AA


Re: Spot S&P QSOs greyed out

AB2ZY
 

Further, “no radio” is defined as not having a COM port defined. I know little about Flex, but this may be the case for them.  Might be an unintended bug. I’ll let one of the other team members chime in that knows more about Flex.

 

Al

AB2ZY

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of AB2ZY
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:18 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Spot S&P QSOs greyed out

 

That option is disabled if there is no radio defined for the focus window.

 

Al

AB2ZY

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeff (NT1K)
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:26 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Spot S&P QSOs greyed out

 

Hello,

Dabbled in WPX SSB this past weekend and I wanted to spot my S&P contacts to the cluster. However in N1MM+, it was greyed out.
I was able to spot using the "spot it" button on the main panel but I'd prefer it to be done automatically.

I was connected to the cluster (ve7cc), I was able to see traffic and do sh/dx  and I made sure my log said that I was running assisted.
I couldn't figure out how to enable it.

https://i.imgur.com/ATiPchA.png

any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff (NT1K)


Re: Spot S&P QSOs greyed out

AB2ZY
 

That option is disabled if there is no radio defined for the focus window.

 

Al

AB2ZY

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeff (NT1K)
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:26 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Spot S&P QSOs greyed out

 

Hello,

Dabbled in WPX SSB this past weekend and I wanted to spot my S&P contacts to the cluster. However in N1MM+, it was greyed out.
I was able to spot using the "spot it" button on the main panel but I'd prefer it to be done automatically.

I was connected to the cluster (ve7cc), I was able to see traffic and do sh/dx  and I made sure my log said that I was running assisted.
I couldn't figure out how to enable it.

https://i.imgur.com/ATiPchA.png

any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff (NT1K)


Re: Spot S&P QSOs greyed out

Tom - N1MM
 

If either radio is a manual radio, then the choice is greyed out. 

If so1r or so2v and if radio 1 is a manual radio, the choice is greyed out. 

73,
Tom - N1MM


Spot S&P QSOs greyed out

Jeff (NT1K)
 

Hello,

Dabbled in WPX SSB this past weekend and I wanted to spot my S&P contacts to the cluster. However in N1MM+, it was greyed out.
I was able to spot using the "spot it" button on the main panel but I'd prefer it to be done automatically.

I was connected to the cluster (ve7cc), I was able to see traffic and do sh/dx  and I made sure my log said that I was running assisted.
I couldn't figure out how to enable it.

https://i.imgur.com/ATiPchA.png

any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff (NT1K)


Re: band button in entry window, fixed

gksmith_1
 

Good morning to all.

First I would like to say Thank You to everyone who has worked on this condition.

This morning I updated N1MM Logger + to version 1.0.8280.0
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I am afraid that I have to say that the problem still exists, and rather than have everyone sorting through all the messages, I will start again from the beginning.
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Computer information is as follows:

Core i7   3.2 GHz
16 GB RAM
Windows 10 Pro  Version 1909 - last updated 3-26-2020
-----------------------------------------

The troublesome condition that exists is the 20 meter button in the Band Panel.

If you use the N1MM program, it is supposed to save the last used frequency, per band and mode, in the Band Panel.

It will do this unless you have the Bandmap window open.

I will now give you the snips of the Entry Window and the last used frequencies with only the following windows used with N1MM open

Entry Window
Digital Interface Window
Log
MMTTY
Score Summary

The radio is CAT controlled and follows the program, and the program also follows the radio, if mode or frequency on the radio is changed, the program reflects the changes.
--------------------------

The contest is the BARTGSRTTY Spring HF contest



The log is a new one and does not have any contacts in it.
-----------------------------------------

The following is the setup in config



Now, with this setup, the program, N1MM, remembers the last used frequency, by band and mode.
And, it will remember the frequency even if you shut down and restart N1MM.

The following are the snips of each band as set to the last used frequency











------------------------------------------------
Now, if I open the Bandmap window, all the "last used frequencies" will still be intact as above.

--------------------------------------------------------

BUT, if, with the Bandmap window OPEN, I close N1MM and re-open the program, I get the following:











Please note, the now indicated, previously remembered frequency for 20 meters.  It has changed to 14.200.

And the only thing different is that the Bandmap window is now open when N1MM is shut down and restarted.

The Radio has been set to 80 meters for this entire exercise, that is, after the last worked frequencies for each band were created.

It seems odd that it is only the 20 meter band, of the 5 that I tested, that has this anomaly.

Thanks to all who have a hand in working on this situation.

73 de WA3ZSC - Jerry


Grab M&Q for second radio

Kevan Nason
 

Is there a way to pull the next spotted station from a SORTED Mult & Q Window and put it into the non-focus radio Entry Window while keeping transmit focus in the run radio's Entry Window? Looking for something like CTRL+SHIFT+UP/DWN ARROW, but that command only gets next station up or down in FREQ regardless of how the M&Q window is sorted. There doesn't seem to be a command similar to ALT+A that will pull next station into 2nd Entry Window from the M&Q field. Tried changing receive focus to R2 while R1 is transmitting and then using ALT+A to populate R2's Entry Window, but that didn't work.

Situation:
- Triband Beam with triplexer pointed to EU
- M&Q window showing calls R2 assigned to that are sorted by direction
- Want to pull stations from the sorted M&Q window to 2nd radio entry field that are within tribanders beam width. Currently just cycling through spots by freq until find someone to work. (Yes, when I run out of spots to work I do actually turn the VFO knob and find someone I can hear.) 

Kevan N4XL


Re: SO2R SSB 2 KB w Flex - How done?

Michael Walker
 

I have yet to test this, but could you use the Stream Deck to do this?   https://www.elgato.com/en/gaming/stream-deck.  You can assign hot keys to buttons on the Stream Deck

We  use the Stream Deck with FRStack on Flex 6000 radios for many things, such as rapid antenna switching, gain settings, etc.  This replaces having to dig into a menu during a contest run.  What is nice is that you 'should' be able to have N1MM commands keys sitting right beside Flex radio keys and sense each button is an OLED it is easy to see what it is assigned to do.  https://youtu.be/NpnUO1F_AGE

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 9:58 AM Kevan Nason <knason00@...> wrote:
Another option is to use a gaming keyboard with programmable keys. There are many, and probably better, keyboards out there, but I've found my two identical Logitech G105 keyboards do things like this. They have three configurable macro key profiles for different contest use. Macros programmed work with either keyboard.

As a test I programmed CTRL+Right Arrow into key G3 and CTRL+Left Arrow into G4. Switched back and forth from one window to the other without issue. I also put Pause into G3 and used it to switch focus. A "gotcha" is if for my Logitech software I have to close and reopen N1MM for it to recognize the change.

For those of you thinking of using something like this, here's some lessons learned. NJ4F started me using gaming equipment that way. He uses a gaming keypad with something like 20 programmable buttons on a single device easily reached by slightly moving his fingers. I don't like that setup because of needing to move hands off the keyboard though. I avoided keyboards with programmable keys across the top. Figured I would too easily confuse them with the regular F-keys after 20 or 30 hours in the chair. Settled on the G105 keyboard because the function keys are to the left of the typing area and easily reached. The G1 key sits right next to the Esc key though. Kept hitting G1 instead of Esc. Solved that by giving up one of the six macro keys and programmed G1 as a second Esc key so it doesn't matter which upper left key I hit. Considered getting a gaming mouse which has programmable buttons on it, but again you would have to move hands from keyboard so didn't go that route.

Don't think they make the G105 keyboard anymore, but found one for the second radio on eBay for a very reasonable price. Has to be other similar ones out there somewhere, but didn't have the need to look.

Kevan N4XL


Re: SO2R SSB 2 KB w Flex - How done?

Kevan Nason
 

Another option is to use a gaming keyboard with programmable keys. There are many, and probably better, keyboards out there, but I've found my two identical Logitech G105 keyboards do things like this. They have three configurable macro key profiles for different contest use. Macros programmed work with either keyboard.

As a test I programmed CTRL+Right Arrow into key G3 and CTRL+Left Arrow into G4. Switched back and forth from one window to the other without issue. I also put Pause into G3 and used it to switch focus. A "gotcha" is if for my Logitech software I have to close and reopen N1MM for it to recognize the change.

For those of you thinking of using something like this, here's some lessons learned. NJ4F started me using gaming equipment that way. He uses a gaming keypad with something like 20 programmable buttons on a single device easily reached by slightly moving his fingers. I don't like that setup because of needing to move hands off the keyboard though. I avoided keyboards with programmable keys across the top. Figured I would too easily confuse them with the regular F-keys after 20 or 30 hours in the chair. Settled on the G105 keyboard because the function keys are to the left of the typing area and easily reached. The G1 key sits right next to the Esc key though. Kept hitting G1 instead of Esc. Solved that by giving up one of the six macro keys and programmed G1 as a second Esc key so it doesn't matter which upper left key I hit. Considered getting a gaming mouse which has programmable buttons on it, but again you would have to move hands from keyboard so didn't go that route.

Don't think they make the G105 keyboard anymore, but found one for the second radio on eBay for a very reasonable price. Has to be other similar ones out there somewhere, but didn't have the need to look.

Kevan N4XL


locked Re: New Version

Tom - N1MM
 

Version 1.0.8280 (Mar 31, 2020)
  1. StationInfo: Update country name when opening a database with a different country callsign (F5PBL)(Coded by K8UT)
  2. MorseRunner: When mute selected, mute when sending fills. (WD6T) (Coded by N2IC)
  3. Fix runtime error loading operator settings (W7YED) (Coded by N1MM)
  4. Bandmap: Default freq to last 20m freq when no radio at startup. (WA3ZSC) (Coded by N1MM)
  5. FunctionKey and CallHistory file downloads: Fixed bug with Soft search versus Exact search contest name matching (K9MM)(coded by K8UT)
  6. Butt-In-Chair contest timer: Supplement to the standard N1MM+ Contact Timer. n1mm.hamdocs.com/Butt-In-Chair (WB9BSD)(coded by K8UT)


Re: SO2R SSB 2 KB w Flex - How done?

VE9AA - Mike
 

Thanks Dan.

I may give it a try
--
Mike VE9AA


Broadcast spot info

DanM
 

Hello,

As of now, all actions on a Bandmap spot (Remove Selected Spot, Blacklist callsign, Remove Spots ThisBand/All Bands and so on) will broadcast a delete action message:
<action>delete</action>
Is it possible to differentiate these actions in the broadcast message ?
A third party software cannot differentiate between these two actions, for example:
1. Remove Selected Spot
2. Blacklist callsign
Although the result is different, 1 - will delete the spot from bandmap but it will display it again next time when is reported by the cluster, 2- will block the callsign to be displayed on bandmap, both operations broadcast the message: <action>delete</action>
It will be very useful if for "Blacklist callsign" the broadcast message is different, something like <action>blacklist</action> for example.

Thank you


Re: Windows do not keep position

ART W2NRA
 

Before you open new programs, right click on the executable install program and select the box OKing the program. Then install. That should fix your problem.

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On Mar 30, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> wrote:

I have found with some applications, I need to use Run as Administrator to open them, put them where I want them, then close them. After that, opening them normally, they will reopen in that position.

May or may not help your situation, just throwing it out.

Michael WA7SKG


Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote on 3/29/20 5:51 AM:
1. Set up positions on 2 different displays
2. TOOLS/Save window positions
3. Terminate When I restart some positions are SLIGHTLY off from original settings. Tools restore windows position DOES get them back EXACTLY where they were when I saved them but I do not understand why that is needed if I want it to come back to the way it was when I ended the program. Windows programs should do that. Thankfully for TOOLS/RSTORE POSITIONS I is not a big deal but wonder why it happens.
Outlook Desktop Gil W0MN
Hierro Candente Batir de Repente
44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb
--
W0MN Rochester, MN


Re: SO2R SSB 2 KB w Flex - How done?

Dave N3RD
 

Mike,

With AHK, you can map a single keypress to a double or triple keypress.

You can also map a double keypress to a different double or triple keypress.

AutoHotKey is your friend.

73 - Dave N3RD

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:20 PM VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:
Andy, (or anyone)

I read the link on AHK you posted, but didn't see the exact example Kari and I would possibly need. I only gave it a cursory look, so maybe missed it.
Could AHK do this:
Take a single key (let's say it's the PrintScreen Key for sake of argument) and make it do CTRL+LEFT ARROW? (or CTRL+RIGHT ARROW) ?

ie: can I map a double key press to a single key press?

Ctrl+whichever arrow works perfectly for CW Paddle focus,(or footswitch focus) but I agree...it's tiring in a long contest.
If I could redo 2 seldom or unused keys for paddle focus (CW) or for footswitch focus (in SSB) contests, where immediately after transmitter key down, was going to be live audio from the op and not a F key, this would also work well if doable.

Many thanks for the advice.

Mike VE9AA
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:47 AM, Andy (KU7T) wrote:
Hi Kari, 
 
hardware solution is doable, and software also. The key mapping you would do in AutoHotkey (https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/appendices/third-party-software/)
 
73
Andy
KU7T
 

 
--
Mike VE9AA


Re: Windows do not keep position

Michael WA7SKG
 

I have found with some applications, I need to use Run as Administrator to open them, put them where I want them, then close them. After that, opening them normally, they will reopen in that position.

May or may not help your situation, just throwing it out.

Michael WA7SKG


Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote on 3/29/20 5:51 AM:

1. Set up positions on 2 different displays
2. TOOLS/Save window positions
3. Terminate When I restart some positions are SLIGHTLY off from original settings. Tools restore windows position DOES get them back EXACTLY where they were when I saved them but I do not understand why that is needed if I want it to come back to the way it was when I ended the program. Windows programs should do that. Thankfully for TOOLS/RSTORE POSITIONS I is not a big deal but wonder why it happens.
Outlook Desktop Gil W0MN
Hierro Candente Batir de Repente
44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb
--
W0MN Rochester, MN


Re: Windows do not keep position

Max NG7M
 

I would add/track this finding by opening a trouble ticket... I have really liked seeing the tickets I have opened get tracked and fixed, including suggestions:

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/support/trouble-ticket/

If you add it, it keeps someone else from transcribing into the tracking system.

Max NG7M


Re: SO2R SSB 2 KB w Flex - How done?

VE9AA - Mike
 

Andy, (or anyone)

I read the link on AHK you posted, but didn't see the exact example Kari and I would possibly need. I only gave it a cursory look, so maybe missed it.
Could AHK do this:
Take a single key (let's say it's the PrintScreen Key for sake of argument) and make it do CTRL+LEFT ARROW? (or CTRL+RIGHT ARROW) ?

ie: can I map a double key press to a single key press?

Ctrl+whichever arrow works perfectly for CW Paddle focus,(or footswitch focus) but I agree...it's tiring in a long contest.
If I could redo 2 seldom or unused keys for paddle focus (CW) or for footswitch focus (in SSB) contests, where immediately after transmitter key down, was going to be live audio from the op and not a F key, this would also work well if doable.

Many thanks for the advice.

Mike VE9AA

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:47 AM, Andy (KU7T) wrote:
Hi Kari, 
 
hardware solution is doable, and software also. The key mapping you would do in AutoHotkey (https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/appendices/third-party-software/)
 
73
Andy
KU7T
 

 
--
Mike VE9AA


Re: Spectrum display - frequency range

Knut Meland
 

Problem solved.

Spectrum display in Logger+ seems to follow the band edge setting in the IC-7300.

73 de Knut LA9RY

Den 29.03.2020 16.11, skrev ART W2NRA:

Hi Knut,

I don’t know which setup your are using, but if it’s with an IC-7610 just tune up to the SSB frequency and the Spectrum Display will follow. I think it’s the same with the IC-7300.

FYI I have my IC-7610 setup with dual Spectrum Displays Vertically in place of the Bandmaps.  Besides displaying callsigns I can see which are active.

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On Mar 29, 2020, at 4:21 AM, Knut Meland <knut.meland@...> wrote:



I am playing around in the CQ WPX SSB contest. Using the Spectrum window causes a problem. I get the freqyency window 7000-7030 and can't figure out how to change it to the SSB portion of the band. Tried + and -  in the left of the spectrum window without response. 

80 meters band is as bad as 40 meters.

Using last version of N1MM. Rig is IC-7300.
Any idea?
73 de Knut LA9RY


Re: SO2R SSB 2 KB w Flex - How done?

Andy (KU7T)
 

Hi Kari, 

hardware solution is doable, and software also. The key mapping you would do in AutoHotkey (https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/appendices/third-party-software/)

73
Andy
KU7T


From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> on behalf of Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP <smnollhrp@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:39 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] SO2R SSB 2 KB w Flex - How done?
 
You are right that magic button is needed. Dennid W1UE hinted on a FS PTT solution I will look into.More to come...