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Re: TS-590 not keyed by WSJT-X

Andrew O'Brien
 

With WSJT, you need a second PTT config in N1MM. I checked the PTT Via Radio Command option. 

Andy


On Dec 6, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Andy k3wyc <a.durbin@...> wrote:

The last time I was tempted to try a contest with N1MM and WSJT-X I got it working and made a few QSO.  Now, with later versions of N1MM and WSJT-X, I can't find any settings that will give CAT keying.

WSJT-X is configured for Rig Commander; PTT CAT, Mode None, Split Rig. (Commander is not running)
WSJT-X test CAT goes green but test CAT does not key the TS-590
N1MM is configured for TS-590; PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode.
Use Logger+ audio is enabled and before that was set Audio was set to "radio 1 output device is an internal radio codec"

These settings should cause N1MM to issue a TX1; command when WSJT is set to transmit.  However WSJT-X is producing audio  but the TS-590 is not keyed.

If I issue a TX1; command using a band map macro button then the rig is keyed and, if WSJT-X is set to transmit, then TS-590 transmits.

It's clear  that setting WSJT-X to transmit does not cause N1MM to issue a TX1; command over the "commander" interface but this did work before N1MM and WSJT-X updates.

Does anyone else see this problem or have any suggestions as to my configuration  error?

(WSJT-X 2.1.1, N1MM 1.0.8029.0)

Thanks and 73,
Andy, k3wyc

Re: TS-590 not keyed by WSJT-X

Andy k3wyc
 

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 05:44 PM, Andy k3wyc wrote:
Now, with later versions of N1MM and WSJT-X, I can't find any settings that will give CAT keying.
Selected contest is CW only.  I had initially thought it was mixed mode.

Andy, k3wyc

Re: Operating time

Fred - NA2U
 

I’ve been looking for that for a long time. Thanks, Rich!

73 from the desert,

Fred/NA2U

On Dec 6, 2019, at 4:43 PM, danzee via Groups.Io <k2ywe=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

In other words, if there are no off-time rules for that particular contest, it assumes a 30-minute period for calculating off times. If you take a break of less than 30 minutes between logged contacts, it counts that as operating time, but a gap of more than 30 minutes with no contacts logged will be counted as off time.

73,
Rich VE3KI

TS-590 not keyed by WSJT-X

Andy k3wyc
 

The last time I was tempted to try a contest with N1MM and WSJT-X I got it working and made a few QSO.  Now, with later versions of N1MM and WSJT-X, I can't find any settings that will give CAT keying.

WSJT-X is configured for Rig Commander; PTT CAT, Mode None, Split Rig. (Commander is not running)
WSJT-X test CAT goes green but test CAT does not key the TS-590
N1MM is configured for TS-590; PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode.
Use Logger+ audio is enabled and before that was set Audio was set to "radio 1 output device is an internal radio codec"

These settings should cause N1MM to issue a TX1; command when WSJT is set to transmit.  However WSJT-X is producing audio  but the TS-590 is not keyed.

If I issue a TX1; command using a band map macro button then the rig is keyed and, if WSJT-X is set to transmit, then TS-590 transmits.

It's clear  that setting WSJT-X to transmit does not cause N1MM to issue a TX1; command over the "commander" interface but this did work before N1MM and WSJT-X updates.

Does anyone else see this problem or have any suggestions as to my configuration  error?

(WSJT-X 2.1.1, N1MM 1.0.8029.0)

Thanks and 73,
Andy, k3wyc

Re: Problem with Update 1.0.8029 (Dec 3, 2019)

Gerald Boutin (VE1DT)
 

Serge,

Perhaps you changed the settings for the Directory storage for N1MM+?

The printscreen error refers to not being able to access a file in this directory: C:\Users\ve2hl\Documents\...

I assume it should be looking for a directory with your call: ve2hls in it.


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Re: Operating time

danzee
 

Log a specific bogus call when you want to start or stop the clock. Later examine the Cabtillo log and figure the times by hand or Excel. Then remove the bogus callsigns.



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: ve3ki <ve3iay@...>
Date: 12/6/19 6:33 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Operating time

It does not count the time the program is open. After all, you might leave the program open for days on end without ever being at the radio. It has no way to know whether you are listening or not.

It counts time based on when QSOs are actually logged. If you spend the entire contest SWLing and never make a contact, it will credit you with zero operating time. 

From the manual description of the View menu items at
<https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/manual-windows/entry-window/#view-menu-selections>:

Off Times – Shows off times. Lists each off period that complies with the contest rules, or each off-time of 30 minutes or more if the contest rules do not specify.

In other words, if there are no off-time rules for that particular contest, it assumes a 30-minute period for calculating off times. If you take a break of less than 30 minutes between logged contacts, it counts that as operating time, but a gap of more than 30 minutes with no contacts logged will be counted as off time.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 03:03 PM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:

A good explanation for a contest with a time off minimum. How about one like 160CW where there is no off requirement. If I want to track how many hours I actually was on and searching or CQing or actually participating must I simply close the N1MM window? If I do that is operating time only the amount of time the window was open or what? Seems no easy way other than closing down N1MM because no way for it to tell if I am at the radio or just listening or what I am doing especially if I am not turning any radio knobs. Not a big deal as I could keep track of my own time but wonder what happens in the no off time required case.

 

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From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of ve3ki
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 07:12
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Operating time

 

N1MM+ calculates on and off times the same way the contest scorers do. Operating time includes any clock minute during which a contact is logged, as well as idle clock minutes that do not qualify as off time. Off time during the contest requires 30 (or 60, depending on the contest rules) consecutive full clock minutes during which no contacts are logged. In effect, the off time clock starts at the beginning of the clock minute after the last logged QSO and continues until the beginning of the clock minute before the next logged QSO, and if there are not enough such consecutive minutes to meet the contest rules for off times, that time interval counts as operating time. Full clock minutes at the beginning and end of the contest during which no contact is logged qualify as off time and do not count towards the operating time.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 07:57 AM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:

How does N1MM calculate operating time

 

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Re: Operating time

ve3ki
 

It does not count the time the program is open. After all, you might leave the program open for days on end without ever being at the radio. It has no way to know whether you are listening or not.

It counts time based on when QSOs are actually logged. If you spend the entire contest SWLing and never make a contact, it will credit you with zero operating time. 

From the manual description of the View menu items at
<https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/manual-windows/entry-window/#view-menu-selections>:

Off Times – Shows off times. Lists each off period that complies with the contest rules, or each off-time of 30 minutes or more if the contest rules do not specify.

In other words, if there are no off-time rules for that particular contest, it assumes a 30-minute period for calculating off times. If you take a break of less than 30 minutes between logged contacts, it counts that as operating time, but a gap of more than 30 minutes with no contacts logged will be counted as off time.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 03:03 PM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:

A good explanation for a contest with a time off minimum. How about one like 160CW where there is no off requirement. If I want to track how many hours I actually was on and searching or CQing or actually participating must I simply close the N1MM window? If I do that is operating time only the amount of time the window was open or what? Seems no easy way other than closing down N1MM because no way for it to tell if I am at the radio or just listening or what I am doing especially if I am not turning any radio knobs. Not a big deal as I could keep track of my own time but wonder what happens in the no off time required case.

 

Outlook Laptop Gil W0MN

Hierro candente, batir de repente

44.08226N 92.51265W EN34rb

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of ve3ki
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 07:12
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Operating time

 

N1MM+ calculates on and off times the same way the contest scorers do. Operating time includes any clock minute during which a contact is logged, as well as idle clock minutes that do not qualify as off time. Off time during the contest requires 30 (or 60, depending on the contest rules) consecutive full clock minutes during which no contacts are logged. In effect, the off time clock starts at the beginning of the clock minute after the last logged QSO and continues until the beginning of the clock minute before the next logged QSO, and if there are not enough such consecutive minutes to meet the contest rules for off times, that time interval counts as operating time. Full clock minutes at the beginning and end of the contest during which no contact is logged qualify as off time and do not count towards the operating time.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 07:57 AM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:

How does N1MM calculate operating time

 

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Re: Operating time

Gilbert Baron W0MN
 

A good explanation for a contest with a time off minimum. How about one like 160CW where there is no off requirement. If I want to track how many hours I actually was on and searching or CQing or actually participating must I simply close the N1MM window? If I do that is operating time only the amount of time the window was open or what? Seems no easy way other than closing down N1MM because no way for it to tell if I am at the radio or just listening or what I am doing especially if I am not turning any radio knobs. Not a big deal as I could keep track of my own time but wonder what happens in the no off time required case.

 

Outlook Laptop Gil W0MN

Hierro candente, batir de repente

44.08226N 92.51265W EN34rb

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of ve3ki
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 07:12
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Operating time

 

N1MM+ calculates on and off times the same way the contest scorers do. Operating time includes any clock minute during which a contact is logged, as well as idle clock minutes that do not qualify as off time. Off time during the contest requires 30 (or 60, depending on the contest rules) consecutive full clock minutes during which no contacts are logged. In effect, the off time clock starts at the beginning of the clock minute after the last logged QSO and continues until the beginning of the clock minute before the next logged QSO, and if there are not enough such consecutive minutes to meet the contest rules for off times, that time interval counts as operating time. Full clock minutes at the beginning and end of the contest during which no contact is logged qualify as off time and do not count towards the operating time.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 07:57 AM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:

How does N1MM calculate operating time

 

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Re: ESM not working v1.0.8029.0

Bill KO7SS
 

Sorry my mistake. I was entering states instead of ARRL sections for those calls not in the Call History, that's why it was taking me to F8 (repeat)

73, Bill KO7SS

Re: ESM not working v1.0.8029.0

ShelbyK4WW
 

Working fine here, also


On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 2:00 PM Steve London <n2ic@...> wrote:
Working fine here.

Look at the Function Keys tab in the configurer. What is "End of QSO" set to ?

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 12/06/2019 11:48 AM, Bill KO7SS via Groups.Io wrote:
> With ESM on and the QSO complete, it goes to F8 instead of F3
>
> 73, Bill KO7SS
>





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Re: ESM not working v1.0.8029.0

Steve London
 

Still works fine here with call history turned off.

Are you sure you are entering a valid section abbreviation ? The exchange in ARRL 160 is section, not state.

73.
Steve, N2IC

On 12/06/2019 11:58 AM, Bill KO7SS via Groups.Io wrote:
Actually the sequencing works when the call is in the call history, it goes to F3 TU
If the exchange is entered manually it goes to F8

Re: ESM not working v1.0.8029.0

Steve London
 

Working fine here.

Look at the Function Keys tab in the configurer. What is "End of QSO" set to ?

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 12/06/2019 11:48 AM, Bill KO7SS via Groups.Io wrote:
With ESM on and the QSO complete, it goes to F8 instead of F3
73, Bill KO7SS

Re: ESM not working v1.0.8029.0

Bill KO7SS
 

Actually the sequencing works when the call is in the call history, it goes to F3 TU
If the exchange is entered manually it goes to F8

ESM not working v1.0.8029.0

Bill KO7SS
 

With ESM on and the QSO complete, it goes to F8 instead of F3

73, Bill KO7SS

N1MM-Clublog Gateway

Rick Ellison
 

For those of you using my N1MM-Clublog Gateway program I have posted an
update on my website.
http://www.n2amg.com/software/n1mm-clublog-gateway/

This corrects for the change in security settings at Clublog that was
stopping uploads from taking place with a SSL/TLS Error message. Clublog has
now started using TLS 1.2 so any application that connects to it via their
server requires the connection to be done under TLS 1.2
As a side effect to this if you are still using Windows XP you will no
longer be able to upload using this program as Windows XP does not support
TLS higher than 1.1. You should still be able to log on to Clublog's website
and post your logs there.

73 Rick N2AMG

Problem with Update 1.0.8029 (Dec 3, 2019)

Serge Lavoie
 

Hello

 

 

Major problems for me this morning.

 

I open my computer to get prepair for the ARRL contest starting today.

 

When I open N1MM +, it ask me to get the revision : Update 1.0.8029 (Dec 3, 2019), I accept and install the new update.

 

My problem start here...

 

After the N1MM update, it is now impossible for me to start N1MM????

 

To make a short story ; After removing M1MM and make a complete new installation and get the update 1.0.8029

many times, I found that if I go back to version  Update 1.0.8019 (Nov 26, 2019) N1MM is working again...

 

Anyone have an answer for me?

 

First time in many year I have a problem with N1MM

 

Please excuse my inglish...  

 

This is the printsrceen of N1MM with the new Update 1.0.8029 (Dec 3, 2019)

 

 

 

73’ de Serge VE2HLS

 

Re: Operating time

ve3ki
 

N1MM+ calculates on and off times the same way the contest scorers do. Operating time includes any clock minute during which a contact is logged, as well as idle clock minutes that do not qualify as off time. Off time during the contest requires 30 (or 60, depending on the contest rules) consecutive full clock minutes during which no contacts are logged. In effect, the off time clock starts at the beginning of the clock minute after the last logged QSO and continues until the beginning of the clock minute before the next logged QSO, and if there are not enough such consecutive minutes to meet the contest rules for off times, that time interval counts as operating time. Full clock minutes at the beginning and end of the contest during which no contact is logged qualify as off time and do not count towards the operating time.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 07:57 AM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:

How does N1MM calculate operating time

 

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Operating time

Gilbert Baron W0MN
 

How does N1MM calculate operating time

 

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Re: Network QSOs missing

John Holmes W9ILY
 

Larry,
Thanks. I've been working with Rick N2AMG on this and other issues.

John W9ILY

Re: N1MM-WSJT Radio Connection - 1

Paul K6PO
 

Seconded! (Thirded?) Make this window minimizable, or at least don't force it to be on top all the time.

73, Paul K6PO