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Spectrum Display with SoftRock

John, G4DRS
 

I wonder, has anyone got the Spectrum Display window to work using the Waterfall Bandmap software and a SoftRock SDR plus soundcard?
I have a Radiokits Hiunter SDR (which identifies as a softrock), connected to a soundblaster Audigy soundcard.
The setup works quite nicely as a panadaptor using NAP3 software, displaying the 9MHz IF output of the FTdx5000, so I thought for a change I'd try the Spectrum Display window.
I have the Waterfall Bandmap software running, and it makes a nice display, with station callsigns against each waterfall stream.
However, when I start the Spectrum display window in N1MM Logger+ and select 'for all other radios, source named waterfall bandmap', the window shows no signals and becomes unresponsive. I have to exit N1MM Logger+ or kill it using task manager to get things working again.
I appreciate that my si570/soundcard based SDR is very old technology these days, but the documentation seems to imply it should work. Has anyone any idea where I might be going wrong?


John
G4DRS 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Roger Cooke
 

The best code reader is that grey stuff in between the ears! Don't try to settle for less. It might take sometime to achieve, but it's well worth it.


73 de Roger, G3LDI

On 23/11/2019 16:24, Andrew O'Brien wrote:
I have found that code readers in general don’t do well at speeds common to major contests , even though machine generated . CQWW is a little easier for a plan old human brain to cope with because the exchange is so easy to predict (and N1MM mostly predicts it). 

Andy


On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Phil via Groups.Io <p.oakley@...> wrote:

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

Bandmap

George Steube
 

How do you turn off the balloons on the bandmap?
Thanks
73, George
W2GS

Bandmap

Nico Ebbendorf
 

Hi,
The Bandmap showing very litte stations after a while at my end. Clicking the SH/DX sends the command to the telnet okay but no update. Only when I "reconnect"to the cluster, a fresh and full list of stations appear in the bandmap.
Cluster I am using is PA1RBZ and this cluster is showing a lot of stations in the nelnet window continues.

Do I miss a setting here?

73, Nico PA3ADU

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Dana Phillips
 

A second reader like CW Get, increases your chance of a good decode


From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> on behalf of ve3ki <ve3iay@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 11:38:44 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader
 
Code reader performance is often underwhelming. They don't like varying speeds - you might find it works better if you crank up the speed setting (second from the left on the bottom of the fldigi window) to more closely match the speeds other stations are working at. Signals need to be strong with no QRM, and you need to tune them in fairly accurately. And they need to be well-formed CW, not only at the source, but also after the ionosphere has had its way with them (auroral flutter, anyone?).

73,
Rich VE3KI

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 11:18 AM, Phil wrote:
Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

--
Dana Phillips N6DW
n6dw@...

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

ve3ki
 

Code reader performance is often underwhelming. They don't like varying speeds - you might find it works better if you crank up the speed setting (second from the left on the bottom of the fldigi window) to more closely match the speeds other stations are working at. Signals need to be strong with no QRM, and you need to tune them in fairly accurately. And they need to be well-formed CW, not only at the source, but also after the ionosphere has had its way with them (auroral flutter, anyone?).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 11:18 AM, Phil wrote:
Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

AB2ZY
 

Even in good conditions, computer decoding of CW is far from perfect. There are many variables – QRN, QRM, s/n ratio, spacing, “fist”, sending speed etc.

 

I haven’t used FLDIGI for the job at all. CWGet works pretty well, or it is at least is as good as it gets. The nice thing about it is that you can manually control where in the passband you want to decode and set the detection threshold. Or you can turn it loose and have it figure those things out.

 

I use it as a crutch only – to check if what I copied is what the computer decoded. For example, with the guys who send 35+ WPM, I can have a difficult time telling a D from a B from a 6, or S from H, etc. 

 

If you want to improve your skills, set a goal of not using the crutch for an entire contest. It might require listening to 10 QSOs for you to copy all the callsign characters, but it is good practice and you’ll get better. CQWW is a great contest for this because the exchange (zone) is something that 99.99% of the time is determined by the callsign and N1MM pre fills that in for you.

 

Al

AB2ZY

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Phil via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 11:18 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

John H. Long Jr.
 

Kind of the same thing here.
 
What I have found is that the CW readers help confirm what you receive.  I.E.  That missing digit in a call sign, etc.
You might have to wait for the station to xmit 2,3 or 4 times and look for a repetitive copy of the call sign.
 
On a more expensive note:
 
I have a new Xiegu G90 QRP Transceiver that has a built in CW reader.  It does better job, but still not always 100%.
 
For the current CW contest a friend is loaning me his Elecraft K3.
 
WOW, now that is what you need for CW.
Great reception and the built in CW decoder does a good job at identifying the calls.
Still not 100% but good enough to put a smile on your face and feel like you are actually getting in the contest.
That and N1MM with a spectrum scope and away you go.
 
 
I'm using it mainly to work on my CW WAS and 5 band WAS.
Maybe a little DXCC also.
 
 
73,
John
 
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader
From: 'Phil via Groups.Io' <p.oakley@...>
Date: 11/23/19 9:18 am
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Dean Saxton
 

Phil,

The problem with decoding CW is it has to be near perfectly sent. My guess is that the software is trying to decode too many signals and is getting confused. 

The best decoding software is the brain. Take your time and pick out each character one at a time.

CQWW CW is a hard one to start with. Next Thursday is the RSGB 80m CW, give that a try.

Dean G4WQI



Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2

-------- Original message --------
From: "Phil via Groups.Io" <p.oakley@...>
Date: 23/11/2019 16:18 (GMT+00:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Andrew O'Brien
 

I have found that code readers in general don’t do well at speeds common to major contests , even though machine generated . CQWW is a little easier for a plan old human brain to cope with because the exchange is so easy to predict (and N1MM mostly predicts it). 

Andy


On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Phil via Groups.Io <p.oakley@...> wrote:

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

locked CQWWCW CW Reader

Phil
 

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

Re: wl_cty.dat warning?

Rick Tavan
 

:-) No complaint about time required, Tom. But no one wants to interrupt a run to re-do it. I did it Thurs on all machines IIRC and will do it again as I rotate thru them today - only 2 operating positions plus a monitoring/hot standby. I still think the frequency of warning messages is “a bit“ high.

Thanks for the Q early on BTW.

Several MM+ newbies here unwilling to learn much but doing fine running piles.

73,

Rick N6XI at PZ5W

--
Rick Tavan

On Nov 23, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Tom Wagner (N1MM) <n1mmtomwagner@...> wrote:

I just updated the wl_cty.dat file here. Including the time to find it in the tools menu, it took 9 seconds.

Tom

On 11/23/2019 6:50 AM, Rick Tavan wrote:
Is it really necessary to warn about a version mismatch at a multi every 5 seconds? We’ll update it when the rate drops but don’t need thousands of warning messages!

Rick N6XI

--
Rick Tavan

Re: wl_cty.dat warning?

Tom Wagner (N1MM)
 

I just updated the wl_cty.dat file here. Including the time to find it in the tools menu, it took 9 seconds.

Tom

On 11/23/2019 6:50 AM, Rick Tavan wrote:
Is it really necessary to warn about a version mismatch at a multi every 5 seconds? We’ll update it when the rate drops but don’t need thousands of warning messages!

Rick N6XI

--
Rick Tavan

Re: CW Reader change

ve3ki
 

On the setup window for the CW Reader (from the CW Reader's Setup menu) there are Enable check boxes for Fldigi and CWGet. Checking the one for CWGet will automatically uncheck the one for Fldigi. Of course, you also need to set the path to the program.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 05:07 AM, <simonjlovell@...> wrote:
Hi All,
how do I change the CW reader to open CWget insted of FLDigi - I have been through all the menus options and setup and can not find the option to change the link setting
Thanks
Simon
2E0GXQ

wl_cty.dat warning?

Rick Tavan
 

Is it really necessary to warn about a version mismatch at a multi every 5 seconds? We’ll update it when the rate drops but don’t need thousands of warning messages!

Rick N6XI

--
Rick Tavan

CW Reader change

simonjlovell@...
 

Hi All,
how do I change the CW reader to open CWget insted of FLDigi - I have been through all the menus options and setup and can not find the option to change the link setting
Thanks
Simon
2E0GXQ

Re: N1MM freezes after log edits

danzee
 

Nope, stored in the default location on the same computer. 

Dan Zeitlin - K2YWE South Shore ARC - K3AU Annapolis, Maryland http://danzee.org


On Thursday, November 21, 2019, 10:16:13 AM EST, Gerald Boutin (VE1DT) <groupsio@...> wrote:


On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:35 AM, danzee wrote:
v1.0.8014
Some of the time editing a field directly in the log window causes N1MM to fatally freeze.When this happens, sometimes the log window contents go black.
This is a new problem. No such trouble in past..Does not appear to happen using using the Edit Contact window to make changes.
Where is your database file stored?

If it is on the "Cloud" somewhere, that would likely be your problem. If on your hard drive, there might be disk hardware problems, so you should run some disk diagnostic software.

--
Gerald, VE1DT

Re: CQ WW CW exchange

john ni0k
 

Rich,

Thanks for the speedy reply. I got it fixed!

73,
-John

ve3ki wrote on 11/22/2019 3:50 PM:

This has nothing to do with the version of the program. It's controlled by your function key message file, and program updates don't change that.

What is in your exchange (F2) message? You might have the wrong message file loaded, e.g. one that is hardwired for a contest with the state in the exchange.

If your F2 message contains the {EXCH} macro, that will send the contents of the Sent Exchange box in the Contest Setup dialog window (File > Open Log in Database...). What is in the Sent Exchange box? It should contain only your CQ zone, nothing else. 

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 04:25 PM, john ni0k wrote:
I'm preparing for the contest and note that the latest version of
Logger+ sends my state instead of CQ zone as the rules specify. Am I
missing something?

-de John NI0K

Re: CQ WW CW exchange

ve3ki
 

This has nothing to do with the version of the program. It's controlled by your function key message file, and program updates don't change that.

What is in your exchange (F2) message? You might have the wrong message file loaded, e.g. one that is hardwired for a contest with the state in the exchange.

If your F2 message contains the {EXCH} macro, that will send the contents of the Sent Exchange box in the Contest Setup dialog window (File > Open Log in Database...). What is in the Sent Exchange box? It should contain only your CQ zone, nothing else. 

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 04:25 PM, john ni0k wrote:
I'm preparing for the contest and note that the latest version of
Logger+ sends my state instead of CQ zone as the rules specify. Am I
missing something?

-de John NI0K

CQ WW CW exchange

john ni0k
 

I'm preparing for the contest and note that the latest version of Logger+ sends my state instead of CQ zone as the rules specify. Am I missing something?

-de John NI0K