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CQP mults not showing red

VE9AA - Mike
 

Hi Everyone!

Full disclosure...I was using a very old version of N1MM+ (I think the popup said "437 days old" or something like) that this past weekend.
Reason?  Was using wife's laptop at a very remote Cape Breton , NS campground location with barely any internet, so didn't want to attempt
an upgrade under those condx.

So this is more just a question than a complaint....but when I did have access to Telnet spots (when I had internet), no W6's were shown in red in the bandmap, 
EXCEPT those I had tuned across, heard their county, typed it in, but then couldn't get through the pileups, so then had to come back later. If it was one I needed, it showed in red.

Is this the expected behaviour? (like I said...old version...shakey internet, etc.) or should the logger 'know' their county?

I was not using call history, but I was using the master callsign database a la "SCP"

Just wondering !

Thanks for an enjoyable weekend in the CQP, you W6's and my eternal gratitude to the N1MM+ team.  What a great program and support,

Mike VE9AA......VE1TTT last weekend.

Re: CQWW DX SSB Contest

David G3YYD
 

Tom

 

Google is your friend on this one. Type: N1MM Telnet Mode and see what you get.

 

73 David G3YYD

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Owens via Groups.Io
Sent: 08 October 2019 15:54
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] CQWW DX SSB Contest

 

In N1MM+ ...

Two questions.

One, what do I set so ONLY SSB spots are shown in the two bandmaps (SO2V operation)?
Two, in KB Contest software you can type a zone number in the callsign field, hit Enter, and a window will appear and show all countries in that zone.
Does N1MM+ have the ability to do the same thing?

Tom, K7RI

CQWW DX SSB Contest

Tom Owens
 

In N1MM+ ...

Two questions.

One, what do I set so ONLY SSB spots are shown in the two bandmaps (SO2V operation)?
Two, in KB Contest software you can type a zone number in the callsign field, hit Enter, and a window will appear and show all countries in that zone.
Does N1MM+ have the ability to do the same thing?

Tom, K7RI

moderated Re: New Version

Tom - N1MM
 

Version 1.0.7965 (Oct 8, 2019)
  1. Spectrum: return focus to EW when clicking on non-client area (title bar) (Coded by N1MM)
  2. UKEIDX contest: Default Sent Excahnge was changed from "001 AB" to "001 ??" (GW0ETF) (Coded by NA3M)
  3. RUS-WW-DIG contest: Incorrect default sent exchange (CQ zone) was used instead of serial number (#) (K5CKS) (Coded by NA3M)
  4. UDC: 0 points can be used in PointsPerContact to limit scoring to the required bands. Example: PointsPerContact = 80m, 1, 40m, 1, 20m, 1, 160m, 0, 15m, 0, 10m, 0 (G4OGB) (Coded by NA3M)
  5. SAC contest: for Callsigns with 2 or more digits the first one should be used as in CallArea (ex. OH150AA - OH1) (R4KO) (Coded by NA3M)

CQP Multiplier Discrepancy

Craig Thompson
 

Nit....

I noted that I worked all 58 counties in the CQP that the multiplier window showed all 58 but the score summary only showed 57! 

I confirmed that I worked all the counties. There were at least two QSOs in each. 

Any idea why the score summary was not right? Rescore didn't change anything either. 

I know of one other station that had the same issue. 

73, Craig K9CT

Re: Optimum PC

Steve London
 

You could avoid the sound card cost entirely by purchasing a low cost SDRPlay or Airspy HF SDR, and using it with your FT-2000/IF-2000. Sell the LP-Pan.

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 10/07/2019 10:13 AM, Jason Newton wrote:
Hi Janez,
I am having a similar issue with spectrum/waterfall display and the responses are informative. Thanks to those who replied!
I can’t  comment on the SB-XFi sound card but can offer that because the LP-Pan utilizes 192k/24bit audio you may consider the Behringer UMC202HD USB.  Note that it is an external sound device and is reported to have excellent drivers.  See the LP-Pan website for additional comments.
73, Jason K8JT
_._,_._,_

Re: Optimum PC

Jason K8JT
 

Hi Janez, 

I am having a similar issue with spectrum/waterfall display and the responses are informative. Thanks to those who replied!

I can’t  comment on the SB-XFi sound card but can offer that because the LP-Pan utilizes 192k/24bit audio you may consider the Behringer UMC202HD USB.  Note that it is an external sound device and is reported to have excellent drivers.  See the LP-Pan website for additional comments.

73, Jason K8JT 

 

Re: Optimum PC

Janez Majdic
 

John, Tom, Joe, Paul, thank you! Your answers showed me that I'm in right direction!

Regards, Janez - S51J

Re: Optimum PC

Paul Evans W4/VP9KF
 

Re: Memory
It depends if this is merely for amateur radio or general use.

If it's for general use, then web browsing these days now starts to push 8GB memory quite frequently (and only just in the last 3 months or so).

If I was buying a new machine I'd definitely put 16GB in it because it might not be a huge problem now, but will be in the near future, by the looks of it.

73, Paul VP9KF & G4BKI

P.S. My main machine is i5 quad core, 8GB, Win7Pro, Toughbook CF-53. Browsers Firefox (occasionally now), Chrome (infrequently) & Vivaldi (99.9%). With the same applications and tabs open Firefox is just slightly smaller in footprint.

Re: Optimum PC

John Bednar
 


Joe,

I believe this has changed in this desktop cpu generation. One thread per core in the I5 & I7.  The mobile cpu version may be different. 

John, K3CT 




-------- Original message --------
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@...>
Date: 10/7/19 8:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Optimum PC

On 2019-10-07 6:16 AM, John Bednar via Groups.Io wrote:
>
> Both of these are 9th generation CPU’s with the latest on-chip
> video. The I5 has six cores, almost four times the computing power of
> your I3 and all of the four core I7’s. There shouldn’t be an issue
> with the I5.  It is faster than most of the I7 CPUs in use.

John, one caveat when comparing I5 and I7 CPUs.  The I5 is runs *one*
thread per core where the I7 will run *two* threads per core.  Thus
for a thread intensive application like N1MM  with spectrum display
(particularly with MMTTY using EXTFSK/EXTFSK64 or other digital modes),
the I7 is significantly superior - even a four core I7 vs. the six core
I5.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2019-10-07 6:16 AM, John Bednar via Groups.Io wrote:
> Janez,
>
>  
>
> Both of these are 9th generation CPU’s with the latest on-chip video. The I5 has six cores, almost four times the computing power of your I3 and all of the four core I7’s. There shouldn’t be an issue with the I5. It is faster than most of the I7 CPUs in use.
>
>  
>
> Unless you have other plans, 8 Gb memory is fine. Concentrate on the DDR speed and latency numbers. Take advantage of the motherboard dual or quad pairing. No need to install 16Gb.
>
>  
>
> I would start with the on board video. The update rate is slow compared to gaming video rates.
>
>  
>
> The audio card doesn’t need to be as fancy as the SB-XFi.  I do agree with the purchase of a card from a company with good drivers. You won’t get any use out of 192 Khz sampling and 24 bit resolution isn’t needed.
>
>  
>
> The M.2 PCIE SSD drives are impressive. I have used the Intel 760P series M.2 in my last three builds and the CPU Mark score is 99 percentile of all worldwide computers tested.
>
>  
>
> John, K3CT
>
>  
>
>  
>
> From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Janez Majdic via Groups.Io
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2019 5:10 AM
> To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
> Subject: [N1MM+] Optimum PC
>
>  
>
> Hello,
> I have to get new PC, because old one with i3-2100 processor is not capable to handle Waterfall Bandmap and Spectrum display satisfying. I need to run both because I have FT-2000 with IF-2000 build in, and LP-PAN.
> Now I'm asking, what is the optimum PC configuration to run N1MM+ with Waterfall Bandmap and Spectrum display. Is i5-9600K processor enough or must I get i7-9600K. Is onboard video enough, or must I get extra video card? Sound card would be Creative SB-XFi, as is now, or should I look for better one? For Windows 10, 16GB RAM, and 500GB SSD HD should be enough!
>
> Janez - S51J
>
>




Re: Optimum PC

Joe Subich, W4TV
 

On 2019-10-07 6:16 AM, John Bednar via Groups.Io wrote:

Both of these are 9th generation CPU’s with the latest on-chip
video. The I5 has six cores, almost four times the computing power of
your I3 and all of the four core I7’s. There shouldn’t be an issue
with the I5. It is faster than most of the I7 CPUs in use.
John, one caveat when comparing I5 and I7 CPUs. The I5 is runs *one*
thread per core where the I7 will run *two* threads per core. Thus
for a thread intensive application like N1MM with spectrum display
(particularly with MMTTY using EXTFSK/EXTFSK64 or other digital modes),
the I7 is significantly superior - even a four core I7 vs. the six core
I5.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2019-10-07 6:16 AM, John Bednar via Groups.Io wrote:
Janez,
Both of these are 9th generation CPU’s with the latest on-chip video. The I5 has six cores, almost four times the computing power of your I3 and all of the four core I7’s. There shouldn’t be an issue with the I5. It is faster than most of the I7 CPUs in use.
Unless you have other plans, 8 Gb memory is fine. Concentrate on the DDR speed and latency numbers. Take advantage of the motherboard dual or quad pairing. No need to install 16Gb.
I would start with the on board video. The update rate is slow compared to gaming video rates.
The audio card doesn’t need to be as fancy as the SB-XFi. I do agree with the purchase of a card from a company with good drivers. You won’t get any use out of 192 Khz sampling and 24 bit resolution isn’t needed.
The M.2 PCIE SSD drives are impressive. I have used the Intel 760P series M.2 in my last three builds and the CPU Mark score is 99 percentile of all worldwide computers tested.
John, K3CT
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Janez Majdic via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2019 5:10 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Optimum PC
Hello,
I have to get new PC, because old one with i3-2100 processor is not capable to handle Waterfall Bandmap and Spectrum display satisfying. I need to run both because I have FT-2000 with IF-2000 build in, and LP-PAN.
Now I'm asking, what is the optimum PC configuration to run N1MM+ with Waterfall Bandmap and Spectrum display. Is i5-9600K processor enough or must I get i7-9600K. Is onboard video enough, or must I get extra video card? Sound card would be Creative SB-XFi, as is now, or should I look for better one? For Windows 10, 16GB RAM, and 500GB SSD HD should be enough!
Janez - S51J

Re: Optimum PC

Tom Wagner (N1MM)
 

A couple of notes about how N1MM+ uses threads.   Each spectrum window and the grayline window use a separate thread. CPUs with more processors will help with that. Serial/parallel cw generation also uses a separate thread.

I generally use https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php to decide which processor to buy.  It has an overall performance rating for each cpu, and if you drill down, it also has a single thread rating.  That rating is also very important for apps and portions of apps that are not multi-threading.

Four processors, with or without hyperthreading with a high single thread rating is probably optimal.  More that four processors probably will not help N1MM+ performance. This is my opinion, I have not measured this particular recommendation.

73,

Tom - N1MM

On 10/7/2019 6:16 AM, John Bednar via Groups.Io wrote:

Janez,

Both of these are 9^th generation CPU’s with the latest on-chip video. The I5 has six cores, almost four times the computing power of your I3 and all of the four core I7’s. There shouldn’t be an issue with the I5. It is faster than most of the I7 CPUs in use.

Unless you have other plans, 8 Gb memory is fine. Concentrate on the DDR speed and latency numbers. Take advantage of the motherboard dual or quad pairing. No need to install 16Gb.

I would start with the on board video. The update rate is slow compared to gaming video rates.

The audio card doesn’t need to be as fancy as the SB-XFi.  I do agree with the purchase of a card from a company with good drivers. You won’t get any use out of 192 Khz sampling and 24 bit resolution isn’t needed.

The M.2 PCIE SSD drives are impressive. I have used the Intel 760P series M.2 in my last three builds and the CPU Mark score is 99 percentile of all worldwide computers tested.

John, K3CT

*From:*N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Janez Majdic via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Monday, October 07, 2019 5:10 AM
*To:* N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
*Subject:* [N1MM+] Optimum PC

Hello,
I have to get new PC, because old one with i3-2100 processor is not capable to handle Waterfall Bandmap and Spectrum display satisfying. I need to run both because I have FT-2000 with IF-2000 build in, and LP-PAN.
Now I'm asking, what is the optimum PC configuration to run N1MM+ with Waterfall Bandmap and Spectrum display. Is i5-9600K processor enough or must I get i7-9600K. Is onboard video enough, or must I get extra video card? Sound card would be Creative SB-XFi, as is now, or should I look for better one? For Windows 10, 16GB RAM, and 500GB SSD HD should be enough!

Janez - S51J

Re: Optimum PC

John Bednar
 

Janez,

 

Both of these are 9th generation CPU’s with the latest on-chip video. The I5 has six cores, almost four times the computing power of your I3 and all of the four core I7’s. There shouldn’t be an issue with the I5. It is faster than most of the I7 CPUs in use.

 

Unless you have other plans, 8 Gb memory is fine. Concentrate on the DDR speed and latency numbers. Take advantage of the motherboard dual or quad pairing. No need to install 16Gb.

 

I would start with the on board video. The update rate is slow compared to gaming video rates.

 

The audio card doesn’t need to be as fancy as the SB-XFi.  I do agree with the purchase of a card from a company with good drivers. You won’t get any use out of 192 Khz sampling and 24 bit resolution isn’t needed.

 

The M.2 PCIE SSD drives are impressive. I have used the Intel 760P series M.2 in my last three builds and the CPU Mark score is 99 percentile of all worldwide computers tested.

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Janez Majdic via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2019 5:10 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Optimum PC

 

Hello,
I have to get new PC, because old one with i3-2100 processor is not capable to handle Waterfall Bandmap and Spectrum display satisfying. I need to run both because I have FT-2000 with IF-2000 build in, and LP-PAN.
Now I'm asking, what is the optimum PC configuration to run N1MM+ with Waterfall Bandmap and Spectrum display. Is i5-9600K processor enough or must I get i7-9600K. Is onboard video enough, or must I get extra video card? Sound card would be Creative SB-XFi, as is now, or should I look for better one? For Windows 10, 16GB RAM, and 500GB SSD HD should be enough! 

Janez - S51J

Re: Digital sub band

Jim Smith
 

Hi John  tnx for the response

Turns out that rebooting N1MM was all that was needed

I will check out mode control though.

73, Jim  VE7FO


From: "John Bednar via Groups.Io" <k3ct@...>
To: "N1MMLoggerPlus" <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 2:46:46 AM
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Digital sub band

Jim,

 

Look at the color of the text in the Bandmap frequency bar. Using default colors, CW is blue, digital is magenta, SSB is black. If the subband frequency is wrong right click on a frequency number.

 

You should also check the contest mode and Config, Mode Control to see if you forced digital mode instead of using radio mode.

 

John, K3CT

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Smith
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 11:12 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Digital sub band

 

Oops  that's 14025 not 4025

 

Jim

 


From: "me" <jimsmith@...>
To: "N1MMLoggerPlus" <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 6:51:26 PM
Subject: [N1MM+] Digital sub band

 

Trying to work ZK3A  on 20  He's got a good signal and is calling CQ  N1MM won't let me call him on cw - sez I'm trying to xmit in a digi sub band.  Well, I'm not.  I'm on 4025.   Both rcvrs on K3 are set to CW.  Furthermore, the change digital sub bands window shows no entry for either the lo or hi sub band limits.

 

I tried entering 14000 and 14150 in the limits boxes but that didn't help.

 

How do I fix this?

 

73, Jim  VE7FO

 


Re: Digital sub band

John Bednar
 

Jim,

 

Look at the color of the text in the Bandmap frequency bar. Using default colors, CW is blue, digital is magenta, SSB is black. If the subband frequency is wrong right click on a frequency number.

 

You should also check the contest mode and Config, Mode Control to see if you forced digital mode instead of using radio mode.

 

John, K3CT

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Smith
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 11:12 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Digital sub band

 

Oops  that's 14025 not 4025

 

Jim

 


From: "me" <jimsmith@...>
To: "N1MMLoggerPlus" <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 6:51:26 PM
Subject: [N1MM+] Digital sub band

 

Trying to work ZK3A  on 20  He's got a good signal and is calling CQ  N1MM won't let me call him on cw - sez I'm trying to xmit in a digi sub band.  Well, I'm not.  I'm on 4025.   Both rcvrs on K3 are set to CW.  Furthermore, the change digital sub bands window shows no entry for either the lo or hi sub band limits.

 

I tried entering 14000 and 14150 in the limits boxes but that didn't help.

 

How do I fix this?

 

73, Jim  VE7FO

 

Optimum PC

Janez Majdic
 

Hello,
I have to get new PC, because old one with i3-2100 processor is not capable to handle Waterfall Bandmap and Spectrum display satisfying. I need to run both because I have FT-2000 with IF-2000 build in, and LP-PAN.
Now I'm asking, what is the optimum PC configuration to run N1MM+ with Waterfall Bandmap and Spectrum display. Is i5-9600K processor enough or must I get i7-9600K. Is onboard video enough, or must I get extra video card? Sound card would be Creative SB-XFi, as is now, or should I look for better one? For Windows 10, 16GB RAM, and 500GB SSD HD should be enough! 

Janez - S51J

Re: Russia WW RTTY Contest Log

Les Elliott
 

John
I have have had the same problem before, and if you look at the rules for both events, you will see the exchange and points are the same.
73
Les

-----Original Message-----
From: jnoyvpe@...
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 2:40 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Russia WW RTTY Contest Log



Why didn't you try using RUS-WW-DIG , change mode from RTTY to DIGITAL and swap between MMVARI and MMTTY(FSK) or stay in MMVARI and use AFSK for both.
It worked for me earlier !
I don't understand why Les G4OGB suggests RUS-WW-MM -- anyway he's cleverer than what I is !!!

73 JOHN G8VPE

Re: Digital sub band

Jim Smith
 

Oops  that's 14025 not 4025

Jim


From: "me" <jimsmith@...>
To: "N1MMLoggerPlus" <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 6:51:26 PM
Subject: [N1MM+] Digital sub band

Trying to work ZK3A  on 20  He's got a good signal and is calling CQ  N1MM won't let me call him on cw - sez I'm trying to xmit in a digi sub band.  Well, I'm not.  I'm on 4025.   Both rcvrs on K3 are set to CW.  Furthermore, the change digital sub bands window shows no entry for either the lo or hi sub band limits.

I tried entering 14000 and 14150 in the limits boxes but that didn't help.

How do I fix this?

73, Jim  VE7FO

Digital sub band

Jim Smith
 

Trying to work ZK3A  on 20  He's got a good signal and is calling CQ  N1MM won't let me call him on cw - sez I'm trying to xmit in a digi sub band.  Well, I'm not.  I'm on 4025.   Both rcvrs on K3 are set to CW.  Furthermore, the change digital sub bands window shows no entry for either the lo or hi sub band limits.

I tried entering 14000 and 14150 in the limits boxes but that didn't help.

How do I fix this?

73, Jim  VE7FO

Re: Larger Data Entry Screen

Joe WB9SBD
 

Or get a junk small for free second monitor like a old 640 by 480 one, and put stuff that needs to be BIG on that monitor.

Joe WB9SBD

On 10/6/2019 2:10 PM, Kelvin Olson wrote:
I'll step in for Ferris here.

Dunno if it's actually helpful, but when enabled (some accessibility thing, I'm sure), the Windows-key & plus-key combo brings up an OS-wide screen magnifier. Perhaps it'd help to zoom in to the area you're trying to read, even if only temporarily?
--
KDO
n0mql