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Re: getting error on start

Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA
 

Did you look for tasks, as well as applications?


Re: getting error on start

Darrell Neron
 

Hi Anthony,
Thanks for the suggestion. I had tried Task Manager, but when I get the error that N1MM is already running, nothing is showing up for N1MM+ in Task Manager.

73 Darrell AB2E


From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> on behalf of Anthony Cinelli <kg4jsk@...>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 12:35 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] getting error on start
 
I go into task manager and see it is still running.  I have to kill it there.

Anthony KG4JSK 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 12:33 Darrell Neron <ab2e@...> wrote:
Hello All,
I've had the following problem for awhile. If I terminate N1MM+, then at a later time try to start it up again, I get the error that I can't run more than one instance of N1MM.

This is currently happening on verion 1.0.7687.0 , but has happened for about a month with other earlier versions.
My OS is Windows 10 Pro, 10.0.18362 Build 18362.
Laptop is HP Elitebook 820 G4.

Rebooting the laptop solves the problem until I exit N1MM and try to restart it.

What am I missing?
73 Darrell AB2E


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Re: How do I Configure N1MM+ ver 1.0.7841.0 for Flex 6600, RTTY, MMTTY

John Holmes W9ILY
 

Neal,
Tim's instructions are correct. However, your configuration for the COM port probably are not. I would create a NEW COM port for MMTTY. I would get MMTTY working as a standalone program, then proceed to configure it for N1MM+. In MMTTY, go to OPTION>Setup MMTTY>TX Tab>PTT & FSK configure for the port you just created. Then go to the TX Tab and for the TX port, select "sound". Then go to the Sound Card tab and be sure the Reception is "DAX Audio RX1" and the Transmission is set for "DAX Audio TX". Then, on the main screen press the TX button and see if all is OK.
John W9ILY


Re: New Program Version Error Message

Gilbert Baron W0MN
 

It might be that SSL is required and the SSL in use now does not run on XP as it should not. You will have to get over it and upgrade.

 

Outlook Laptop Gil W0MN

Hierro Candente Batir de Repente

44.08226N 92.51265 W en34rb

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Karin Johnson
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 12:23
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] New Program Version Error Message

 

When clicking on "Tools Check for new program version and install" I get the error message "Checking for new version not supported with this operating system. down load manually".  A lot of us are still using XP for an operating system.  I know not supported by Microsoft.  But it still works.
Any chance to support the new version update especially since we still get the NAG messages about the currently installed version being out
of date.

Karin K3UU


Re: New Program Version Error Message

Tom Wagner (N1MM)
 

No.  Time marches on.

Microsoft support for XP end over 5 years ago.

Tom - N1MM

On 7/19/2019 1:22 PM, Karin Johnson wrote:
When clicking on "Tools Check for new program version and install" I get the error message "Checking for new version not supported with this operating system. down load manually".  A lot of us are still using XP for an operating system.  I know not supported by Microsoft.  But it still works.
Any chance to support the new version update especially since we still get the NAG messages about the currently installed version being out
of date.

Karin K3UU


New Program Version Error Message

Karin Johnson
 

When clicking on "Tools Check for new program version and install" I get the error message "Checking for new version not supported with this operating system. down load manually".  A lot of us are still using XP for an operating system.  I know not supported by Microsoft.  But it still works.
Any chance to support the new version update especially since we still get the NAG messages about the currently installed version being out
of date.

Karin K3UU


Re: Choosing new computer

Frank Maynard
 

Another source of refurbs that I've used is Discount Electronics in Texas. They have a large inventory and you can customize your machine (HD, CDRW, memory, OS, peripherals etc) so you can set it up the way you want it. I've purchased several computers, monitors and a projector from them. My current shack machine is a workstation-class Dell T1650 running Fedora Core Linux and it's fast. Even has a hardware serial port.

Whatever you get, go with a SSD instead of a spinning hard drive; you'll be amazed at the difference in performance, and stuff it with at least 8 GB and preferably 16 GB of memory.


Re: getting error on start

Anthony Cinelli
 

I go into task manager and see it is still running.  I have to kill it there.

Anthony KG4JSK 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 12:33 Darrell Neron <ab2e@...> wrote:
Hello All,
I've had the following problem for awhile. If I terminate N1MM+, then at a later time try to start it up again, I get the error that I can't run more than one instance of N1MM.

This is currently happening on verion 1.0.7687.0 , but has happened for about a month with other earlier versions.
My OS is Windows 10 Pro, 10.0.18362 Build 18362.
Laptop is HP Elitebook 820 G4.

Rebooting the laptop solves the problem until I exit N1MM and try to restart it.

What am I missing?
73 Darrell AB2E


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Re: getting error on start

ve3ki
 

This is telling you that the program failed to shut down completely the last time you exited it. You can kill the task in Task Manager instead of rebooting, but that won't address the cause.

If you are running a digital mode program from N1MM+, try closing the digital program, and the Digital Interface window (RTTY/PSK) or Decode List window (FT8/FT4), before exiting from N1MM+ to see if that allows the program to complete the shutdown. Also, look to see if there is a dialog window still open (but perhaps hidden or minimized) asking you for a response. Make sure you clear any such windows before exiting the program.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:33 PM, Darrell Neron wrote:
Hello All,
I've had the following problem for awhile. If I terminate N1MM+, then at a later time try to start it up again, I get the error that I can't run more than one instance of N1MM.
 
This is currently happening on verion 1.0.7687.0 , but has happened for about a month with other earlier versions.
My OS is Windows 10 Pro, 10.0.18362 Build 18362.
Laptop is HP Elitebook 820 G4.
 
Rebooting the laptop solves the problem until I exit N1MM and try to restart it.
 
What am I missing?
73 Darrell AB2E
 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: getting error on start

AB2ZY
 

This doesn’t fix the problem, but instead of rebooting, open Task Manager and end the process with the image name N1MMLogger.Net.exe*32. It will at least get you restarted more quickly.

 

Al

AB2ZY

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Darrell Neron
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 12:33 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] getting error on start

 

Hello All,

I've had the following problem for awhile. If I terminate N1MM+, then at a later time try to start it up again, I get the error that I can't run more than one instance of N1MM.

 

This is currently happening on verion 1.0.7687.0 , but has happened for about a month with other earlier versions.

My OS is Windows 10 Pro, 10.0.18362 Build 18362.

Laptop is HP Elitebook 820 G4.

 

Rebooting the laptop solves the problem until I exit N1MM and try to restart it.

 

What am I missing?

73 Darrell AB2E

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


getting error on start

Darrell Neron
 

Hello All,
I've had the following problem for awhile. If I terminate N1MM+, then at a later time try to start it up again, I get the error that I can't run more than one instance of N1MM.

This is currently happening on verion 1.0.7687.0 , but has happened for about a month with other earlier versions.
My OS is Windows 10 Pro, 10.0.18362 Build 18362.
Laptop is HP Elitebook 820 G4.

Rebooting the laptop solves the problem until I exit N1MM and try to restart it.

What am I missing?
73 Darrell AB2E


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Spectrum window crash / spot persistence

Patrick Herborn
 

Quick update on this front...

Last night I was once again able to use N1MM+ on the laptop with the
IC-7300 which had previously caused a crash to happen, even when in
the good USB socket.

Whilst it did not crash per se (yay!) it did on three occasions reset
the spectrum window - ie not just pause it during TX, but actually
wipe it clean of waterfall data. This was not an issue per se, the
spots remained so no harm done.

These three resets ALWAYS happened either during, or just after TX.
The IC-7300 is set to EDGE mode not CENTER, so it doesn't output
any spectrum data during TX, but I would have thought that the
spectrum code would already be aware of / know how to deal with
an IC7300/7610/9700 saying "can't give you that right now".

Best regards,

Pat. (M0MGO)

--
Patrick Herborn <pat@...>


Re: Tab / Space behaviour on VHF contests

Patrick Herborn
 

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 08:10:15 -0700
"Eric Gruff" <egruff@...> wrote:

Jim,

There are exceptions to the "always work dupes" rule. For example,
if you log a dupe in the IARU HF Championship (last weekend), you
are penalized three QSOs. Most contests don't do this, but given
that a few do, it behooves serious contesters to read the rules
first. I'm a semi-serious contester, but routinely fail to read
the rules. I have learned a few painful (sunburn painful, not
3rd-degree burn painful) lessons by being ignorant.
Jim's words are sage advice. I can only imagine the off-topic suggestion
came from the fact that I found the behaviour of the Tab to be
"inconsistent" by accident....

Imagine for a moment that you're S&P and you catch a glimmer of a
callsign that IS NOT in the history, so you Tab, which fills in
the empty fields other than the Locator. You then realise that
station is also S&P, so you Shift-Tab back to the Callsign to
input the station that IS calling CQ, only to then find that the
Locator does not get filled in, despite it being in the history -
unless you press the Space bar. *THAT* is what I meant by
"changing my mind" - as opposed to realising it is a DUPE and
thus "changing my mind". It seems that F12 is your friend here.

Jim is dead right regarding WORKING dupes - as pointed out there
is a reason that his/her logger is not flagging it up as a dupe!
It is probably due to an error in the callsign, so it behooves
you to x-ref the logs so as to correct any errors to avoid
UBNs.

You are of course right to point out that it pays to know the rules -
if you know you don't get penalised and will just lose the points for
the original bad entry but get them back for the now-good entry then
fine, just log it, but if you get penalised for the bad entry, then try
to fix it :)

Now that I know the behaviour exhibited by N1MM+, this part of it
worked like a charm last night on the laptop :)

73 and CU all on the bands,

Eric NC6K
Best regards,

Pat. (M0MGO)

--
Patrick Herborn <pat@...>


Re: Tab / Space behaviour on VHF contests

Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA
 

Eric,

That rule applies to duplicate contacts CLAIMED FOR CREDIT.  Any modern logging program does not claim credit.  You still want to work dupes.

73,

Drew K3PA


NAQP RTTY Call History.

VE2FK
 

The RTTY NAQP Call History have been updated with the help of Bob/N7WY.
You can have your free copy at:
 
 
and have a look for any changes before contest.
Send corrections DIRECT to ve2fk@...
 
73, Claude VE2FK
 


Re: Tab / Space behaviour on VHF contests

Eric Gruff
 

Jim,

There are exceptions to the "always work dupes" rule. For example, if you log a dupe in the IARU HF Championship (last weekend), you are penalized three QSOs. Most contests don't do this, but given that a few do, it behooves serious contesters to read the rules first. I'm a semi-serious contester, but routinely fail to read the rules. I have learned a few painful (sunburn painful, not 3rd-degree burn painful) lessons by being ignorant.

73 and CU all on the bands,

Eric NC6K


Re: DUPES! (was Tab / Space behaviour on VHF contests)

Michael WA7SKG
 

When a station tells me I am a dupe, I generally ask him to verify his exchange and call as I must have gotten it wrong. Most folks will do so and move on.

By the same token, if you happen to work a station in a contest, PLEASE submit your log, even if only a check log. With most contests using electronic submission and master contest databases, some have log checking routines that will drop contacts that do not show up in both station's logs. If the other station does not submit a log, the contact may not count.

Michael WA7SKG


Jim W7RY wrote on 7/18/19 5:10 PM:

Always work dupes! ALWAYS! There is a reason your not in the other stations log!
Always work dupes!
Thanks
73
Jim W7RY


Re: Tab / Space behaviour on VHF contests

VE9AA - Mike
 

I stand corrected and apologize if my previous reply came off as harsh (it was meant to be informative)
I had  no idea that in EU and the UK that signal reports in VHF contests were checked and verified by sponsors and that 
you would lose the QSO if you got the signal report wrong.  No idea at all. (seems silly, but my opinion counts naught in your contests, hi)

All I do is HF & VHF contests in North America and not having ever operated a VHF contest from EU I should not have been so quick
to bark out my opinion.

Sorry about that everyone !  Should I ever operate a VHF contest in EU/UK, I'll make a mental note to copy those 339 and 579 reports accurately.

Respectfully, 

Mike VE9AA


Re: Tab / Space behaviour on VHF contests

Les Elliott
 

A bit off topic, Jim, but I totally agree
 
73
Les, G4OGB
 

From: Jim W7RY
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Tab / Space behaviour on VHF contests
 
Always work dupes! ALWAYS! There is a reason you’re not in the other stations log!

Always work dupes!


Thanks
73
Jim W7RY
On 7/18/2019 8:39 AM, Patrick Herborn wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:54:21 +0100
"Les Elliott via Groups.Io" mailto:g4ogb@... wrote:

Pat
Hiya Les!

I have just tested B4 and the Locator fills on pressing Tab,
perhaps it is down to how you have formatted your CH file.
OK, I didn't have access to the actual laptop, but given that
TWO people now have pointed out that Tab works, I figured I
needed to have another go!

To this end I downloaded the Full Install, and the latest (16Jul)
update, installed, configured, installed the B4 UDC, copied across
the CH file, pulled it in, enabled History Lookup and tried it here. 
IT WORKED!

This had me scratching my head - *WHY* did it work here, and not
on the laptop ? I didn't do anything "different" during the install,
and both are on the 16Jul release..... I started playing around and 
I THINK I have found the cause :)

*AT FIRST* I thought it was to do with the Check - ie if you type
in the full Callsign then it fills the Locator when you Tab from
the Callsign, but NOT if the Callsign was completed from a partial
by the Check window, however a subsequent test showed that even
a Check completed callsign DOES work!

Further tinkering has now narrowed it down and it is repeatable,
and perhaps also "expected".... IF there is ANYTHING left in the
SntRpt field at all, then a Tab WILL NOT auto-fill the Locator,
*BUT SPACE WILL* [so long as the Locator field doesn't already
contain something].

It is interesting to compare Tab and Space behaviour : If there
is something in SntRpt then Tab will not overwrite it with 59
and place you between the 5 and 9. If you Tab on then it will
NOT fill *EMPTY* RcvRpt and Locator fields with 59 and the
locator. Space on the other hand will leave the SntRpt alone,
but it WILL auto-fill the *EMPTY* RcvRpt and Locator fields.
Any field that already has something in it is left alone.

The Tab behaviour is thus heavily dependant on the SnrRpt
field - if it is empty then it fills SntRpt, RcvRpt and
Locator, but if it is not empty then it doesn't fill ANY
of those, even if they are empty to start with, whereas
Space ALWAYS fills non-empty fields.

The quick moral of the story is - always WIPE if you change
your mind about an entry. Beyond that I don't know if it
would be sensible for Tab to fill in EMPTY SntRpt and Locator
fields (as it would if SntRpt was empty) or to leave it
the way it is ?

Many thanks to all those who have responded, especially those
who said it was working for them since that made me start
digging somewhat deeper and figure out why it wasn't working
here :) Hopefully this wasn't an RTFM fail and others can
benefit from my observations.
 
Les, G4OGB
Cheers,

Pat. (M0MGO)

-----Original Message----- 
From: Patrick Herborn
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 3:33 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Tab / Space behaviour on VHF contests

Good afternoon all!

This question / feature request pertains to the action of Tab and Space
when in a VHF contest. Space is most useful insofar as it will pre-fill
the locator information if pressed in the Callsign field (if using
history lookup), BUT in doing so it jumps directly to the received
serial box, pre-filling the sent and received reports with 59.

This behaviour is fine on HF contests, but we tend to send real signal
reports, which means one then has to go back to correct the pre-filled
signal reports. Occasionally one might have to correct the locator
for a /P but that's just life.

One way of avoiding this is to use the Tab key - this steps through
the fields and permits entry of RS(T) and serial, but then it doesn't
pre-fill the locator. Kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
It would be useful to have an option for Space (or some other key)
to pre-fill the locator only, and jump to the relevant next
field (as discussed below).

An additional improvement might be to change the Tab order of the
fields - again this is related to the use of real signal reports.
The default behaviour is to go from the callsign to the sent
signal report - this is fine in Run mode where you just have
to give the best report you can based on receiving just a callsign,
but in S&P you get your report from the Run station, which
allows a better determination of an accurate signal report, ergo
the sent report tends to get filled in last. It would be helpful
to have an option to change the tab (or space or other key) order to
Callsign->RxRST->RxSn->Loc->SntRST - perhaps tracking Run/S&P state.

These things may of course already be possible - I just haven't found a
way of doing it - in which case I should be grateful for any hints /
tips / instructions.

Best regards,

Pat (M0MGO).

-- 
Patrick Herborn mailto:pat@...

 





K7A - Apollo 11 Anniversary in NAQP RTTY

jeff stai wk6i
 

With the anniversary this weekend we all will probably be copying some fun names in our exchanges. At least I do hope so.**

Please note however that LUNA is not a valid multiplier for North America. :-)

If you are a contester inclined to also seek special event stations, during the NAQP RTTY*** W7RN in Nevada will be operating K7A "Celebrating the Apollo 11 Moon landing from the Nevada Space Center". Special QSLs available by SASE, of course.

Yes there is really a Nevada Space Center, thanks for asking:
http://www.nevadaspacecenter.org/ 

73 and have fun! jeff wk6i

** With luck we can screw up prefill files for the next several years!

*** Phone and CW when not contesting

--
Jeff Stai ~ WK6I ~ wk6i.jeff@...
RTTY op at W7RN
Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/