Date   
Re: LoTW

kc9ee
 

I do it the same as Jim. I export it that way to my general logging program anyway. No matter what, there is going to be an .adi file of almost every contest.

73,

Gary KC9EE


From: Dave Sublette <k4to@...>
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 9:12 PM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] LoTW

Does N1MM Logger + upload to LoTW?

K4TO


Re: LoTW

Jim Funk
 

I do NOT know that.  I’m a neophyte with N1MM+.  I was just offering a solution but it’s likely you already had that information.. 73 Jim N9JF

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Sublette
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 9:36 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] LoTW

 

So what you are really saying is that N1MM+ doesn't upload directly from the program to LOTW.  I suspected as much when I couldn't find anything regarding LOTW in all the options, etc.

 

Thanks,

 

Dave, K4TO

 

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 10:32 PM Jim Funk <jfunk@...> wrote:

If nothing else, you can export to .adi and upload that file.  73, Jim N9JF

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Sublette
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 9:12 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] LoTW

 

Does N1MM Logger + upload to LoTW?

 

K4TO

Re: LoTW

Dave Sublette <k4to@...>
 

So what you are really saying is that N1MM+ doesn't upload directly from the program to LOTW.  I suspected as much when I couldn't find anything regarding LOTW in all the options, etc.

Thanks,

Dave, K4TO

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 10:32 PM Jim Funk <jfunk@...> wrote:

If nothing else, you can export to .adi and upload that file.  73, Jim N9JF

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Sublette
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 9:12 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] LoTW

 

Does N1MM Logger + upload to LoTW?

 

K4TO

Re: LoTW

Jim Funk
 

If nothing else, you can export to .adi and upload that file.  73, Jim N9JF

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Sublette
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 9:12 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] LoTW

 

Does N1MM Logger + upload to LoTW?

 

K4TO

LoTW

Dave Sublette <k4to@...>
 

Does N1MM Logger + upload to LoTW?

K4TO

Re: Configuring for CW with microHam microKEYER II ?

Victor Paul
 

Thanks! Got it all working now.  At first was getting nothing but dots from the IC-7300 but then realized it was set up for a keyer instead of straight key keying which is what was coming from the microham.  Now if only I could get the morse decoder between my ears working as well as it once did! HI!

Thanks & 73!
Victor WB0TEV / V31VP

Re: N1MM "monitor" - feature request?

Rui Ventura
 

Thank you for the reply Rich!

Being an unattended computer, preventing adding / changing entries will be a safety concern.
This is for a club, I would like to allow visiting members to have an overview of what is happening without the concern you point twice: "as long as you don't log any contacts on the second computer"
This will require testing and probably removing the keyboard and mouse of the slave computer, even if creating an user for it and deleting all the contacts he "made" from the main log... Testing + testing.
I'll wait for more replies. I'll let you know what we ended up doing in any case.

Having this slave/monitor feature would be very welcome. To what is worth, I challenge the programmers in doing this :)
It will also look good on your club station too!

73,
CS7AOB


ve3ki <ve3iay@...> escreveu no dia segunda, 1/10/2018 à(s) 20:46:

You can run N1MM+ on a second computer and network the two copies. Configure the second computer for a "manual" (non-interfaced) radio and put that copy of N1MM+ on an unused band. Set up both computers with the same version of N1MM+ and create a contest of the same contest type on the second computer. Network the two computers. Everything in the log on the logging computer will be echoed in the second computer (and vice versa, so don't log anything on the second computer). If the network connection is lost, the logging computer will continue without any interruption. You can still set up the contest as a single-op, if that's your actual category - the networking of computers is independent of the choice of contest category and the number of transmitters.

If you operate assisted, you can choose to make the second computer the "master" and connect it to a DX cluster. It will automatically transfer spots to the actual logging computer. That way if the connection to the cluster goes down, you can reconnect on the second computer without interrupting operations on the logging computer.

N1MM+ will want the clocks in both computers to be synchronized. The "master" can act as the time source for the other computer, but this may require N1MM+ in the non-master computer to be run using "Run as administrator". Alternatively, you can use a time setting program like Dimension 4 or Meinberg in both computers to synchronize them to an accurate time source, which avoids the need to run as administrator.

As long as you don't log any contacts on the second computer, it should not have any impact on the logging computer.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 02:23 PM, <cs7aob@...> wrote:

Hi,
First post on this group.

I would like to have N1MM running on a computer "downstairs" showing off the progress, log data, points, contacts per region / band, etc...
According to the online documentation, due to the way N1MM+ works when connected in network, I believe that having a third party application could affect how well the N1MM+ software works.

My questions to the group is: What is the best way to make this happen? Have you tried this before? If so, did you just run N1MM on that computer? Did this affect your log in any way? Any tips you may want to share?
If too many of you have worked around this, It can probably turn into a feature request: "monitor mode" install for N1MM+

Apologize in advance if this was discussed already. I just got to the group and couldn´t find "search group" option.

Regards. 73,
CS7AOB,

 

Re: MMTTY Window Restore Windows 10

Jon KM8V
 

Rich,

This is an excellent tip! Thank you!

No combination of anything I could find online had helped, but this absolutely did the trick.

For reference, here is what the [Window] section of my MMTTY.ini file contained before I edited it:

[Window]
WindowTop=-313
WindowLeft=-662
WindowWidth=654
WindowHeightRM=262
SetupOnTop=0
Disable=0
StayOnTop=0
WindowState=0
ShowMacro=1
MemoryWindow=0

Re: Weird "is it a mult?" behavior during CQWW RTTY #n1mm

Jamie WW3S
 

Actually, for me, none of the spotted VEs came up red...I had the mult window open, and kept track that way...what triggers the mult highlighting for VE, is it call history, or the city.dat file ?


On Oct 1, 2018, at 4:32 PM, brian.moran@... wrote:

While operating in the CQWW RTTY contest last weekend, a spotted VE3 station kept showing up as a multiplier, even though we'd already worked ON on that band. It turns out that somewhere/somehow the section "ONS" was associated with this particular VE3 call, which caused the callsign to show up as Red in the Available multipliers window. ON was a valid section for the contest, but ONS is not. 

Did anyone else see this type of behavior?

-Brian N9ADG

Re: Weird "is it a mult?" behavior during CQWW RTTY #n1mm

ve3ki
 

If you were assisted and had the state field turned on at the cluster node, perhaps his call sign had the section instead of the province in that field in the database at the cluster node; or, perhaps someone spotted him with ONS in the comments(?). Or, had you already logged him on another band, and did he get logged with ONS instead of ON in the exchange (because of a prefill from a call history file perhaps)?

73,
Rich VE3KI



On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 04:32 PM, <brian.moran@...> wrote:
While operating in the CQWW RTTY contest last weekend, a spotted VE3 station kept showing up as a multiplier, even though we'd already worked ON on that band. It turns out that somewhere/somehow the section "ONS" was associated with this particular VE3 call, which caused the callsign to show up as Red in the Available multipliers window. ON was a valid section for the contest, but ONS is not. 

Did anyone else see this type of behavior?

-Brian N9ADG

Weird "is it a mult?" behavior during CQWW RTTY #n1mm

brian.moran@...
 

While operating in the CQWW RTTY contest last weekend, a spotted VE3 station kept showing up as a multiplier, even though we'd already worked ON on that band. It turns out that somewhere/somehow the section "ONS" was associated with this particular VE3 call, which caused the callsign to show up as Red in the Available multipliers window. ON was a valid section for the contest, but ONS is not. 

Did anyone else see this type of behavior?

-Brian N9ADG

Re: Configuring for CW with microHam microKEYER II ?

ve3ki
 

Go to <http://www.microham-usa.com/>, click on Support, click on the link for your interface (microKeyer II), and click on the link for N1MM Logger Plus to download setup instructions. Basically you need to create a virtual COM port in the microHam Router for the WinKey and then configure that port in the N1MM+ Configurer for a Winkey. You need a cable from the interface to the rig's CW key jack, but presumably you already have that along with all of the other connections from the interface to the radio.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 03:53 PM, Victor Paul wrote:
I come down to the Maya Hill Lodge rental shack in Belize several times a year to do contests and I use N1MM+ for my SSB and RTTY operations.  I'd like to get CW macros and interfacing working, but my initial guesses at how to do it haven't worked, so I'm looking for advice.

The only connection from the laptop is a USB cable to a microHAM micro KEYER II contraption (made in Europe I think).  The micro KEYER II in turn does all the interfacing with the IC-7300, SPE amp, Station Master Deluxe antenna controller etc.  making the various virtual COM ports, audio interfaces etc.  It seems to have a "winkey" capability. 

What do I need to set in the Configurer to get CW from N1MM+ macros etc to key the rig in CW? 

I fly back to Texas tomorrow, but will be back in Belize in 3 weeks, I hope to be educated enough by then to get CW working.

Thanks,
Victor WB0TEV / V31VP

Re: MMTTY Window Restore Windows 10

ve3ki
 

Can you find it with Alt+Tab? Or, does Restore appear in the right-click menu?

If not, you could try editing the MMTTY.ini file while MMTTY is not running. Look for a section called [Window], set WindowTop=0, WindowLeft=0, WindowWidth=600, WindowHeightRM=250. That should make the MMTTY window open at the top left of the display, after which you can move it, resize it, etc.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 03:19 PM, <jon@...> wrote:
Apologies in advance if I am missing something super simple.

In the latest versions of Windows 10, when I fire up N1MM+ with MMTTY for RTTY, everything _works_ fine. But oddly, I can't seem to figure out how to get the MMTTY window itself to display. It's in the taskbar, but the typical "right-click, Move, drag" doesn't work because "Move" is no longer an option that is presented. I've also tried to Cascade the windows, or use Window 10's window "snapping" keys to get it to pop up to no avail.

Any ideas?

Thanks & 73 de KM8V

Configuring for CW with microHam microKEYER II ?

Victor Paul
 

I come down to the Maya Hill Lodge rental shack in Belize several times a year to do contests and I use N1MM+ for my SSB and RTTY operations.  I'd like to get CW macros and interfacing working, but my initial guesses at how to do it haven't worked, so I'm looking for advice.

The only connection from the laptop is a USB cable to a microHAM micro KEYER II contraption (made in Europe I think).  The micro KEYER II in turn does all the interfacing with the IC-7300, SPE amp, Station Master Deluxe antenna controller etc.  making the various virtual COM ports, audio interfaces etc.  It seems to have a "winkey" capability. 

What do I need to set in the Configurer to get CW from N1MM+ macros etc to key the rig in CW? 

I fly back to Texas tomorrow, but will be back in Belize in 3 weeks, I hope to be educated enough by then to get CW working.

Thanks,
Victor WB0TEV / V31VP

Re: N1MM "monitor" - feature request?

ve3ki
 

You can run N1MM+ on a second computer and network the two copies. Configure the second computer for a "manual" (non-interfaced) radio and put that copy of N1MM+ on an unused band. Set up both computers with the same version of N1MM+ and create a contest of the same contest type on the second computer. Network the two computers. Everything in the log on the logging computer will be echoed in the second computer (and vice versa, so don't log anything on the second computer). If the network connection is lost, the logging computer will continue without any interruption. You can still set up the contest as a single-op, if that's your actual category - the networking of computers is independent of the choice of contest category and the number of transmitters.

If you operate assisted, you can choose to make the second computer the "master" and connect it to a DX cluster. It will automatically transfer spots to the actual logging computer. That way if the connection to the cluster goes down, you can reconnect on the second computer without interrupting operations on the logging computer.

N1MM+ will want the clocks in both computers to be synchronized. The "master" can act as the time source for the other computer, but this may require N1MM+ in the non-master computer to be run using "Run as administrator". Alternatively, you can use a time setting program like Dimension 4 or Meinberg in both computers to synchronize them to an accurate time source, which avoids the need to run as administrator.

As long as you don't log any contacts on the second computer, it should not have any impact on the logging computer.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 02:23 PM, <cs7aob@...> wrote:

Hi,
First post on this group.

I would like to have N1MM running on a computer "downstairs" showing off the progress, log data, points, contacts per region / band, etc...
According to the online documentation, due to the way N1MM+ works when connected in network, I believe that having a third party application could affect how well the N1MM+ software works.

My questions to the group is: What is the best way to make this happen? Have you tried this before? If so, did you just run N1MM on that computer? Did this affect your log in any way? Any tips you may want to share?
If too many of you have worked around this, It can probably turn into a feature request: "monitor mode" install for N1MM+

Apologize in advance if this was discussed already. I just got to the group and couldn´t find "search group" option.

Regards. 73,
CS7AOB,

 

..ini.Friday.bak to the rescue

Victor Paul
 

It pays to read a daily digest from the N1MM+ groups.io.  Yesterday while operating at my favorite rental shack in Belize as V31VP in CQ WW RTTY with 5 hours to go, N1MM+ froze solid.  All the windows became "ghosted" and Windoze gave me the "N1MMplus is Not Responding" message.  A shut down of N1MM+ and a laptop reboot just got me back into that same frozen state.

And then I remembered that N1MM's developers have the program make daily back ups of the .ini file.  Figuring that the .ini file had somehow gotten corrupted I shutdown the program and went into .... MyDocuments/N1MMLogger+ folder.  Finding the file n1mm logger.ini.Friday.bak I opened it with Notepad and then saved it as N1MM Logger.ini overwriting the current .ini file.

Upon relaunch, N1MM+ came up okay, albeit it my Dxpediton log from before the contest, but I was able to simply reopen my CQ WW RTTY log and was back in business with about 20 minutes of down time, most of which was the earlier flailing around until I collected my wits and remembered what I'd learned on this forum.   Maybe an hour later the program froze again and I had to do the same trick, but only lost about 5 minutes I think.

So, this post isn't really a question, but an answer.  Maybe someone in the future will have the same problem and they will remember reading this (and other posts on the same topic) and get fixed quickly.

73,
Victor V31VP / WB0TEV

MMTTY Window Restore Windows 10

Jon KM8V
 

Apologies in advance if I am missing something super simple.

In the latest versions of Windows 10, when I fire up N1MM+ with MMTTY for RTTY, everything _works_ fine. But oddly, I can't seem to figure out how to get the MMTTY window itself to display. It's in the taskbar, but the typical "right-click, Move, drag" doesn't work because "Move" is no longer an option that is presented. I've also tried to Cascade the windows, or use Window 10's window "snapping" keys to get it to pop up to no avail.

Any ideas?

Thanks & 73 de KM8V

N1MM "monitor" - feature request?

Rui Ventura
 

Hi,
First post on this group.

I would like to have N1MM running on a computer "downstairs" showing off the progress, log data, points, contacts per region / band, etc...
According to the online documentation, due to the way N1MM+ works when connected in network, I believe that having a third party application could affect how well the N1MM+ software works.

My questions to the group is: What is the best way to make this happen? Have you tried this before? If so, did you just run N1MM on that computer? Did this affect your log in any way? Any tips you may want to share?
If too many of you have worked around this, It can probably turn into a feature request: "monitor mode" install for N1MM+

Apologize in advance if this was discussed already. I just got to the group and couldn´t find "search group" option.

Regards. 73,
CS7AOB,

 

credit for /MM qso

Jamie WW3S
 

Id I understand the rules, this counts for points and zone credit, but not a country......MM is giving my credit for his home country as well , which I think was Ukraine, maybe EU Russia....any way for future versions to not count /MM contacts as home callsign country? 

Re: Bug in DATA using MMTTY ?

Jamie WW3S
 


fwiw, I'm not certain it happened on both, but I know for sure it happened once on DI-2. In that case, the MMTTY engine froze, with the peaks in the spectrum window stuck on high, and then every window with MM went dim/grey, windows opened up a message box that  N1MM had stopped responding, and it closed itself, I didnt have to reboot, I just restarted MM and it took back off....funny thing though, even though I had the windows position saved, every window went back to where it was but the entry window for the second radio.....every time (happened 3, maybe 4 times in 28 hours) that entry window came up in the upper left corner of monitor one, when its "saved" position was the lower right....and 99.8% sure its not rfi....I was low power all weekend, and I never have had RFI issues. 


From: "Bob Epstein via Groups.Io" <bobk8ia@...>
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 1:23:18 PM
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Bug in DATA using MMTTY ?

Jim/Larry/Rick;

1) The problem here was only with the DI-1 side, which also has 2Tone. DI-2 is set up similarly and was ok.

2) No RFI issues here at all.

3) I am chalking this one up as a shoulder shrug. Twice in many years, although both this weekend (1564 q"s/34 hrs), does not necessarily designate the issue as a problem to me. But it was annoying to have to reboot I cannot create a repeat.

4) Rick, what are the basic differences with MMTTY 1.68a (used here forever, it seems) and version  1.70K issued June 2017. The MMTTY website isnt clear on that. Tnx

73, Bob K8IA (N7AT)
Arizona Outlaws Contest Club

In a message dated 10/1/2018 8:45:10 AM US Mountain Standard Time, makidoja@... writes:

Hi Larry

I didn't try 2tone on DI1 main.

Jim

-------- Original message --------
From: Larry K8UT <k8ut@...>
Date: 01/10/2018 16:19 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Bug in DATA using MMTTY ?

Jim

Do I understand correctly that the problem goes away when you assign 2Tone as primary for DI-1 and DI-2, but if MMTTY is the primary for DI-1 the problem occurs?

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Jim M0CKE" <makidoja@...>
Sent: 2018-10-01 11:00:42
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Bug in DATA using MMTTY ?

Hi Rick

Deffo no RF in shack here,  checked for this.

It was happening randomly, irrespective of band in use, and only ever on DI1 and MMTTY1 attached to DI1, 2Tone1 and 2 on DI1 never an issue.

DI2, MMTTY2, 2Tone 3,4,5 no problem.

I did actually wait one time and the whole N1MM including all decoders closed without and human intervention,  but this took about 1 minute.

I rebooted PC a number of times and still the same issue.

We have a number of reports now so something is causing this.

Jim M0CKE



-------- Original message --------
From: Rick Ellison <rellison@...>
Date: 01/10/2018 15:01 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Bug in DATA using MMTTY ?

I have been thinking about this since I first read the messages and this bug came up.

And 2 things that keep coming up is:

A>    The last time that I made a change to the MMTTY routines was back in May 2017 and that was a menu correction. The next previous to that was 2015.

B>    MMTTY v1.68 has been around since 9/2010 without any changes to that version. (It has been upgraded by other programmers to version 1.70I)

So with that in mind if this is the first or second time seeing this and you haven’t seen it before then it’s time to look in your shack for some stray RF. Something is causing MMTTY to get hung up and my guess is RF is entering the computer someplace.

 

73 Rick N2AMG

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Epstein via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 9:37 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Bug in DATA using MMTTY ?

 

My past experience with two instances of N1MM and two instances of 2Tone (probably 20K RTTY qsos with that configuration and same computer) has shown to be reliable and stable.


 The only reason I even mentioned this issue is that two other big volume RTTY contesters (G2F and WW3S) saw the same thing.


I realize there is a myriad of variables surrounding this low percentage problem, but I figured it would be helpful to support G2F and mention he wasn't a singular observer.


Bob K8IA (N7AT)

Arizona Outlaws Contest Club


-------- Original message --------

From: ShelbyK4WW <shelbyk4ww@...>

Date: 10/1/18 5:05 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: N1MM Reflector <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>

Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Bug in DATA using MMTTY ?


This being my first RTTY contest, using N1MM, other than a few operator errors, I would say that N1MM performed flawlessly. One radio, one decoder, probably has a lot to do with that?

 

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:59 AM Bob Epstein via Groups.Io <bobk8ia=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Twice, in CQWW RTTY, I saw the same thing in SO2V. Once, I saw the "reoccurring character" situation and the other time the Main (A) receiver side decoders just froze. My only fix was to kill and reboot N1MM+.


The B-receiver side was unaffected. It still operated fine while the A-side froze up.


Setup here Win7, MMTTY and 2Tone on both K3 receivers, i3 processor, 10 GB RAM and not much running in the background. Latest versions of N1MM+ and 2Tone and v1.68a of MMTTY (not latest MMTTY v1.70).


The operation of the K3 remained unaffected during these glitches.


Any ideas?


Bob K8IA (N7AT)

Arizona Outlaws Contest Club


-------- Original message --------

From: Jim M0CKE <makidoja@...>

Date: 10/1/18 12:56 AM (GMT-07:00)

Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Bug in DATA using MMTTY ?


Hi All


Was active in CQWW RTTY as G2F at the weekend SO2R and I had a re-occuring crash

Using windows 7 on a desktop i5 processor

I couldn't replicate but every so often DI1 MMTTY would freeze and sometimes just fill the RX window with reoccurring characters like IIIIII or QQQQQQQ 

Only way out was CTRL-ALT-DEL .. task manager and end task on N1MM and all associated windows then restart N1MM

Anyone else seen this?

Had multiple decoders on each radio, using MMTTY as decoder 1 and 2TONE as decoder 2 .. both using the latest versions available for general download.

Jim M0CKE

 


--

73, Shelby - K4WW

As I don't have an iPad nor iPhone, sent from my PC