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Re: WKUSB Speed Pot Control dysfunctional

Art Davis
 

Thank you very much for the thoughtful and thorough response. That is much clearer than the manuals, simple enough for this retired electrical engineer to understand! And you were correct, I was confused!

Tnx, 73 Art N4UC

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 6:07 PM ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:
Whether the Winkeyer speed control works or not depends on two things: (1) you must be using the Winkeyer for CW, which means the CW/Other check box must be checked for the serial port that the Winkeyer is using (and not for any other port configured for CW keying), the WinKey check box must be checked in the port setup for that port, and there must be a cable between the Winkeyer's CW keying output and the rig's CW key jack; and (2) the "Ignore Winkey Speed Pot" option in the Configurer under the Winkey tab must not be checked.

The only time you would check the CW/Other check box on the radio control port would be if you were using direct serial port keying on one of the control lines (usually DTR) of the radio control serial port; you said you are trying to use a WKUSB for CW, so that should not be the case. If you are using a Winkeyer to send CW, you do not check CW/Other on the radio control serial port, and you do not set DTR (or RTS) on the radio control port to key CW. Do not try to configure two different serial ports for CW simultaneously with the same radio. Decide which one you are using and then configure it and only it to send CW,

To use the Winkeyer for CW keying, you must have a cable connected between the Winkeyer's keying output and the rig's (any rig's) CW key jack. That's how the Winkeyer works - the computer sends ASCII text (and commands) to the Winkeyer over its serial port, and the Winkeyer converts the ASCII to Morse code and uses its CW Key output to convey the CW keying to the rig.

You may have been confused by the fact that the K3/K3S can accept direct serial port keying on its own radio control port (with the correct setting of CONFIG:PTT-KEY in the K3) - but this is not using the Winkeyer, it is configuring the program to toggle a line on the radio control serial port directly for on-off CW keying, which does not involve a Winkeyer. If you have been checking the CW/Other check box on the radio control port and setting its DTR to key CW, you were most likely using the radio control port and not the Winkeyer to key CW, in which case it would be no surprise that the Winkeyer's speed pot would not do anything.

The program automatically selects the correct DTR and RTS settings on a serial port that has the WinKey check box checked in the port settings - you do not need to change them - but for reference, they are DTR Always On and RTS Always Off. Do not confuse these with DTR and RTS on the radio control port. If you are using the WInkeyer for CW and PTT keying, the normal setting with a K3/K3S would be to set DTR and RTS to Always Off on the radio control port.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 04:00 PM, Art Davis wrote:
OK, making a some progress but not there yet. After reinstalling mm on a different computer completely re-reading the manuals for everything, , the situation is that I can either have the speed control pot function properly, or have the N1MM/WKUSB actually key the radio (K3)!  I consider this to be progress because it confirms that the hardware is all working, I just can't quite get everything configured exactly right. It seems to come down to whether or not I have the CW/other box(es) checked on one or both com port lines..
Q1: With a winkey installed, should the CW/Other boxes be checked on both or just the winkey port?
Q2: There is no need for a cable running from the winkeyer to the radio for keying the XMTR. That's done thru the serial port cable, right?
Can someone confirm the proper DTR and RTS settings in the winkey config page for using a WKUSB with a Elecraft K3?

Thanks, Art N4UC

Re: WKUSB Speed Pot Control dysfunctional

Art Davis
 

Thanks Mark. So it's the keyer that is actually keying the radio and not the PC/n1mm like when there is no winkey, correct?


On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 5:49 PM Mark Bailey <kd4d@...> wrote:
Hi Art:

Just the Winkey port. It sounds like you are keying the transmitter using DTR or RTS on the serial port.

You definitely need a cable for CW keying from the Winkey to the radio - you may wish to add a cable for PTT as well.

73,

Mark, KD4D

On September 3, 2018 4:00:50 PM EDT, Art Davis <adavis1972@...> wrote:
OK, making a some progress but not there yet. After reinstalling mm on a different computer completely re-reading the manuals for everything, , the situation is that I can either have the speed control pot function properly, or have the N1MM/WKUSB actually key the radio (K3)!  I consider this to be progress because it confirms that the hardware is all working, I just can't quite get everything configured exactly right. It seems to come down to whether or not I have the CW/other box(es) checked on one or both com port lines..
Q1: With a winkey installed, should the CW/Other boxes be checked on both or just the winkey port?
Q2: There is no need for a cable running from the winkeyer to the radio for keying the XMTR. That's done thru the serial port cable, right?
Can someone confirm the proper DTR and RTS settings in the winkey config page for using a WKUSB with a Elecraft K3?

Thanks, Art N4UC

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Re: WKUSB Speed Pot Control dysfunctional

ve3ki
 

Whether the Winkeyer speed control works or not depends on two things: (1) you must be using the Winkeyer for CW, which means the CW/Other check box must be checked for the serial port that the Winkeyer is using (and not for any other port configured for CW keying), the WinKey check box must be checked in the port setup for that port, and there must be a cable between the Winkeyer's CW keying output and the rig's CW key jack; and (2) the "Ignore Winkey Speed Pot" option in the Configurer under the Winkey tab must not be checked.

The only time you would check the CW/Other check box on the radio control port would be if you were using direct serial port keying on one of the control lines (usually DTR) of the radio control serial port; you said you are trying to use a WKUSB for CW, so that should not be the case. If you are using a Winkeyer to send CW, you do not check CW/Other on the radio control serial port, and you do not set DTR (or RTS) on the radio control port to key CW. Do not try to configure two different serial ports for CW simultaneously with the same radio. Decide which one you are using and then configure it and only it to send CW,

To use the Winkeyer for CW keying, you must have a cable connected between the Winkeyer's keying output and the rig's (any rig's) CW key jack. That's how the Winkeyer works - the computer sends ASCII text (and commands) to the Winkeyer over its serial port, and the Winkeyer converts the ASCII to Morse code and uses its CW Key output to convey the CW keying to the rig.

You may have been confused by the fact that the K3/K3S can accept direct serial port keying on its own radio control port (with the correct setting of CONFIG:PTT-KEY in the K3) - but this is not using the Winkeyer, it is configuring the program to toggle a line on the radio control serial port directly for on-off CW keying, which does not involve a Winkeyer. If you have been checking the CW/Other check box on the radio control port and setting its DTR to key CW, you were most likely using the radio control port and not the Winkeyer to key CW, in which case it would be no surprise that the Winkeyer's speed pot would not do anything.

The program automatically selects the correct DTR and RTS settings on a serial port that has the WinKey check box checked in the port settings - you do not need to change them - but for reference, they are DTR Always On and RTS Always Off. Do not confuse these with DTR and RTS on the radio control port. If you are using the WInkeyer for CW and PTT keying, the normal setting with a K3/K3S would be to set DTR and RTS to Always Off on the radio control port.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 04:00 PM, Art Davis wrote:
OK, making a some progress but not there yet. After reinstalling mm on a different computer completely re-reading the manuals for everything, , the situation is that I can either have the speed control pot function properly, or have the N1MM/WKUSB actually key the radio (K3)!  I consider this to be progress because it confirms that the hardware is all working, I just can't quite get everything configured exactly right. It seems to come down to whether or not I have the CW/other box(es) checked on one or both com port lines..
Q1: With a winkey installed, should the CW/Other boxes be checked on both or just the winkey port?
Q2: There is no need for a cable running from the winkeyer to the radio for keying the XMTR. That's done thru the serial port cable, right?
Can someone confirm the proper DTR and RTS settings in the winkey config page for using a WKUSB with a Elecraft K3?

Thanks, Art N4UC

Re: WKUSB Speed Pot Control dysfunctional

Mark Bailey
 

Hi Art:

Just the Winkey port. It sounds like you are keying the transmitter using DTR or RTS on the serial port.

You definitely need a cable for CW keying from the Winkey to the radio - you may wish to add a cable for PTT as well.

73,

Mark, KD4D


On September 3, 2018 4:00:50 PM EDT, Art Davis <adavis1972@...> wrote:
OK, making a some progress but not there yet. After reinstalling mm on a different computer completely re-reading the manuals for everything, , the situation is that I can either have the speed control pot function properly, or have the N1MM/WKUSB actually key the radio (K3)!  I consider this to be progress because it confirms that the hardware is all working, I just can't quite get everything configured exactly right. It seems to come down to whether or not I have the CW/other box(es) checked on one or both com port lines..
Q1: With a winkey installed, should the CW/Other boxes be checked on both or just the winkey port?
Q2: There is no need for a cable running from the winkeyer to the radio for keying the XMTR. That's done thru the serial port cable, right?
Can someone confirm the proper DTR and RTS settings in the winkey config page for using a WKUSB with a Elecraft K3?

Thanks, Art N4UC

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Re: error n1mm

Anderson Xavier
 

Yes. Resolved.

Em Seg, 3 de set de 2018 19:18, Steve London <n2ic@...> escreveu:

Config->Configure Ports, Score Reporting tab.

Uncheck "Report Real-Time Score to Server".

What is in the "Score Reporting Server" field ?

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 09/03/2018 03:45 PM, Anderson Xavier wrote:
> in atachment error n1mm, please help me!
> _._,_._,_



Re: error n1mm

Steve London
 

Config->Configure Ports, Score Reporting tab.

Uncheck "Report Real-Time Score to Server".

What is in the "Score Reporting Server" field ?

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 09/03/2018 03:45 PM, Anderson Xavier wrote:
in atachment error n1mm, please help me!
_._,_._,_

error n1mm

Anderson Xavier
 

in atachment error n1mm, please help me!

Re: CW / SSB Freq Toggle

John Bednar
 

Joe,

Two corrections:
- The K3 Polling rate is 400ms.
- Wayne from Elecraft finds nothing wrong with the Logger+ polling string at this rate.


We discovered during a previous debug session that microHam Router does not maintain the polling intervals during congestion in Router. As I remember, when the congestion cleared, Router burst out commands and eliminated the polling interval from the original data source. Has this been corrected?


John, K3CT

-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 2:31 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] CW / SSB Freq Toggle


Drew,

What is the "Radio Polling Rate" for the K3 radio port in
N1MM+? Set it to "100% slower" and see if that doesn't
improve the reliability. If "100% slower" works, then try
"50% slower".

Polling for 8 parameters every 100 ms can be too much for
the K3. In addition, if clicking on the bandmap results
in a band change, Elecraft's programmer's documentation
calls for waiting 500 ms between sending a "change frequency"
command and any further polling/commands.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-09-03 1:42 PM, Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA wrote:
Hi John,

No, this is running through microHam router, but nothing else is using the serial ports at the time.� No sharing software.

73,

Drew K3PA

Re: WKUSB Speed Pot Control dysfunctional

Art Davis
 

OK, making a some progress but not there yet. After reinstalling mm on a different computer completely re-reading the manuals for everything, , the situation is that I can either have the speed control pot function properly, or have the N1MM/WKUSB actually key the radio (K3)!  I consider this to be progress because it confirms that the hardware is all working, I just can't quite get everything configured exactly right. It seems to come down to whether or not I have the CW/other box(es) checked on one or both com port lines..
Q1: With a winkey installed, should the CW/Other boxes be checked on both or just the winkey port?
Q2: There is no need for a cable running from the winkeyer to the radio for keying the XMTR. That's done thru the serial port cable, right?
Can someone confirm the proper DTR and RTS settings in the winkey config page for using a WKUSB with a Elecraft K3?

Thanks, Art N4UC

Re: IARU Region 1 Field day contest

S50LD
 

Hello,

We were working as S50VZZ/p and we used N1MM+ last verzion and FD Reg 1.

73 de Lovro S50LD

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, 15:40 TA1DX Atila, <ta1dx3@...> wrote:
Helle Dear Friends,

I took a break for a long time. On September 1-2, when I ran the program for the IARU Region 1 Field Day Contest, I only saw the FD contest option. I think this is for ARRL Field Day. I did not find IARU Field Day, is program have it?

I kept the records manually. If there is, I would like to spend it on the program for cabrillo.

Selamlar, 73!
Atila, TA1DX



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Re: CW / SSB Freq Toggle

Joe Subich, W4TV
 

Drew,

What is the "Radio Polling Rate" for the K3 radio port in
N1MM+? Set it to "100% slower" and see if that doesn't
improve the reliability. If "100% slower" works, then try
"50% slower".

Polling for 8 parameters every 100 ms can be too much for
the K3. In addition, if clicking on the bandmap results
in a band change, Elecraft's programmer's documentation
calls for waiting 500 ms between sending a "change frequency"
command and any further polling/commands.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2018-09-03 1:42 PM, Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA wrote:
Hi John,
No, this is running through microHam router, but nothing else is using the serial ports at the time.  No sharing software.
73,
Drew K3PA

Re: CW / SSB Freq Toggle

Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA
 

Hi John,

No, this is running through microHam router, but nothing else is using the serial ports at the time.  No sharing software.

73,

Drew K3PA

Re: N1MMClublogGateway written by N2AMG

Rick Ellison
 

The full Installer has been fixed…

 

73 Rick N2AMG

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Ellison
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 9:59 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] N1MMClublogGateway written by N2AMG

 

Fulvio

If you can download the update that will function without the full installer. I will not be home for another 3 hrs as I have been at a family members camp without cell service for the past 2 days. Just got back into cell service and seen your messge. When I get home I will look and see where the full installer went from the website.

 

73 Rick N2AMG

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Fulvio Galli
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 5:04 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] N1MMClublogGateway written by N2AMG

 

Dear Friends,

 

I'm looking for the utility N1MMClublogGateway written by N2AMG.

provides the update but not the full version.

 

Is anyone of you have the full version or guide me through a way to download it?

 

Many thanks!

73 de HB9DHG Fulvio

 

Re: N1MMClublogGateway written by N2AMG

Rick Ellison
 

Fulvio

If you can download the update that will function without the full installer. I will not be home for another 3 hrs as I have been at a family members camp without cell service for the past 2 days. Just got back into cell service and seen your messge. When I get home I will look and see where the full installer went from the website.

 

73 Rick N2AMG

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Fulvio Galli
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 5:04 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] N1MMClublogGateway written by N2AMG

 

Dear Friends,

 

I'm looking for the utility N1MMClublogGateway written by N2AMG.

provides the update but not the full version.

 

Is anyone of you have the full version or guide me through a way to download it?

 

Many thanks!

73 de HB9DHG Fulvio

 

Re: N1MMClublogGateway written by N2AMG

Martin - A65DC
 

Superb Robert,
Thank you.


if anyone else is looking for the same thing, just let me know.


A65DC, Martin

IARU Region 1 Field day contest

TA1DX Atila
 

Helle Dear Friends,

I took a break for a long time. On September 1-2, when I ran the program for the IARU Region 1 Field Day Contest, I only saw the FD contest option. I think this is for ARRL Field Day. I did not find IARU Field Day, is program have it?

I kept the records manually. If there is, I would like to spend it on the program for cabrillo.

Selamlar, 73!
Atila, TA1DX



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Re: N1MMClublogGateway written by N2AMG

S57AW
 

Hi Martin,

To make your life easier :-) I have it and will send you a link where you can download latest setup and update

73 Robert, S57AW

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Martin - A65DC <martin.wennergren@...> wrote:
Yes Tom, N2AMG Holds the answer, but...
There must be someone out there sitting on a copy of this software willing to share it with me and Fulvio.

de A65DC


Re: N1MMPlus.pdf

Larry K8UT
 

Sante,

Thanks for catching my error. A corrected PDF has been uploaded.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Sante - IK0HBN via Groups.Io" <ik0hbn@...>
Sent: 2018-09-03 08:52:15
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] N1MMPlus.pdf

Hello everybody,
probably it's only a date misplaced, but the last help file shows:
 N1MM Logger+ Manual  July 31, 2018
at the end of each page...
73's Sante

Re: N1MMClublogGateway written by N2AMG

Martin - A65DC
 

Yes Tom, N2AMG Holds the answer, but...
There must be someone out there sitting on a copy of this software willing to share it with me and Fulvio.

de A65DC

N1MMPlus.pdf

Sante - IK0HBN
 

Hello everybody,
probably it's only a date misplaced, but the last help file shows:
 N1MM Logger+ Manual  July 31, 2018
at the end of each page...
73's Sante