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Re: ESM

Larry K8UT
 

Looks like the problem is your Run F5 definition - which gets concatenated with F2 as part of the exchange when in ESM mode. 

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "ai6o@... [N1MMLoggerplus]" <N1MMLoggerplus@...>
Sent: 2018-02-22 20:29:03
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerplus] ESM

 

Claude,


Here's a copy of the Function key setup I'm using:

 

   #
###################
#   RUN Messages
###################
F1 CQ, CQ {MYCALL} {MYCALL} cwt
F2 EXCH, {EXCH}
F3 TU, TU {MYCALL}
F4 {MYCALL}, {MYCALL}
F5 PARTIAL, !?
F6 {EXCH}, {EXCH}
F7 NR?, NR?
F8
F9
F10 CALL?, CL?
F11 WRK B4, B4 TU
F12 ??, ?
###################
#   S&P Messages
#################
F1 Qrl?, qrl?
F2 {EXCH}, {EXCH}
F3 AGAIN, AGN?
F4 {MYCALL}, {MYCALL}
F5 NBR?, NBR?
F6 EXCHANGE, {EXCH}
F7 NAME?, NAME?
F8 SAVE,
F9
F10 PARTIAL, CALL?
F11
F12 ??, ?


Hope this helps.  Thanks in advance.


Ed, AI6O

Re: ESM

VE2FK
 

Hi Ed.
In your RUN messages in F5� look at the end of line, there is a ?
Edit, remove it and all will be ok.

73, Claude VE2FK


Le 2018-02-22 � 20:29, ai6o@... [N1MMLoggerplus] a �crit�:

�

Claude,


Here's a copy of the Function key setup I'm using:

�

�� #
###################
#�� RUN Messages
###################
F1 CQ, CQ {MYCALL} {MYCALL} cwt
F2 EXCH, {EXCH}
F3 TU, TU {MYCALL}
F4 {MYCALL}, {MYCALL}
F5 PARTIAL, !?
F6 {EXCH}, {EXCH}
F7 NR?, NR?
F8
F9
F10 CALL?, CL?
F11 WRK B4, B4 TU
F12 ??, ?
###################
#�� S&P Messages
#################
F1 Qrl?, qrl?
F2 {EXCH}, {EXCH}
F3 AGAIN, AGN?
F4 {MYCALL}, {MYCALL}
F5 NBR?, NBR?
F6 EXCHANGE, {EXCH}
F7 NAME?, NAME?
F8 SAVE,
F9
F10 PARTIAL, CALL?
F11
F12 ??, ?


Hope this helps.� Thanks in advance.


Ed, AI6O

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Re: ESM

Edwin Felter
 

Thanks, John.  I found the box in Configurer and it had and does have just a SPACE.  Nothing else.


Ed, Ai6O

Re: ESM

Edwin Felter
 

Claude,


Here's a copy of the Function key setup I'm using:

 

   #
###################
#   RUN Messages
###################
F1 CQ, CQ {MYCALL} {MYCALL} cwt
F2 EXCH, {EXCH}
F3 TU, TU {MYCALL}
F4 {MYCALL}, {MYCALL}
F5 PARTIAL, !?
F6 {EXCH}, {EXCH}
F7 NR?, NR?
F8
F9
F10 CALL?, CL?
F11 WRK B4, B4 TU
F12 ??, ?
###################
#   S&P Messages
#################
F1 Qrl?, qrl?
F2 {EXCH}, {EXCH}
F3 AGAIN, AGN?
F4 {MYCALL}, {MYCALL}
F5 NBR?, NBR?
F6 EXCHANGE, {EXCH}
F7 NAME?, NAME?
F8 SAVE,
F9
F10 PARTIAL, CALL?
F11
F12 ??, ?


Hope this helps.  Thanks in advance.


Ed, AI6O

Re: QSK

Tom Fitzpatrick <k4ie_tom@...>
 

Acltually, no. I'm also using WinKey and it works great. My settings seem to be right, but still no QSK.


Tom, K4IE


On Thursday, February 22, 2018, 6:03:27 PM EST, Gary Hunt kc9ee@... [N1MMLoggerplus] wrote:


 



I actually went several years keying direct with the K3 and it never consistantly didn't work. It's just that errant behavior would rare it's head at the worst possible time. After I finally got a grasp on what was happening and why, it's difficult for me to understand how it works as consistantly as it does. The WinKey has been flawless and really invisible once set up. I think I'm just running way too much stuff for direct to ever work here again.


 Did Tom ever get squared up on his QSK issue?

73,

Gary KC9EE




From: "Gerry Treas k8qlk@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
To: "ve3iay@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: RE: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK

 
I have been direct keying for about 10 years also and it has worked great most of the time.  Bute to the large number of incoming Telnet spots even filtered and throttled down, I have recently incurred keying delays with a 6th generation i7 3.4GHz 16GB memory and a separate video card with its own memory.

I now have a Winkey3 USB and it is great! 


73, Gerry K8GT


On Thursday, February 22, 2018, 4:52:48 PM EST, ve3iay@... [N1MMLoggerplus] wrote:


 
Who knows? It might happen at the next Windows update, or it might never be a problem. The important take-away is that it is unpredictable; every installation is different.

73,
Rich VE3KI


---In N1MMLoggerplus@..., wrote :

I have been keying direct for a little over 10 years, how much longer do you guess I have to wait???????

73,
Tom – W4BQF
 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Gary Hunt kc9ee@... [N1MMLoggerplus]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:37 AM
To: N1MMLoggerplus@...
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK
 
 
In N1MM+ I'm using a virtual Com Port for the K3 (Pair Com22,Com23)for CAT. That's running through Win4K3Suite. I have WinKey on Comport 10, check mark in CW/other. DTR always on, RTS always off for ComPort10. WinKey through N1MM+ keys the rig as smooth as a key. The K3 will key directly, contrary to urban myth, however it is problematic. Anyone keying directly and not having a problem just hasn't had a problem YET.
 
73,
Gary KC9EE
 
 
From: "Tom Fitzpatrick k4ie_tom@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
To: n1mmloggerplus@...
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:27 AM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK
 
 
     How do I set up N1MM+ for QSK? I'm running a K3.
 
 


Re: QSK

kc9ee
 



I actually went several years keying direct with the K3 and it never consistantly didn't work. It's just that errant behavior would rare it's head at the worst possible time. After I finally got a grasp on what was happening and why, it's difficult for me to understand how it works as consistantly as it does. The WinKey has been flawless and really invisible once set up. I think I'm just running way too much stuff for direct to ever work here again.


 Did Tom ever get squared up on his QSK issue?

73,

Gary KC9EE




From: "Gerry Treas k8qlk@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
To: "ve3iay@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: RE: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK

 
I have been direct keying for about 10 years also and it has worked great most of the time.  Bute to the large number of incoming Telnet spots even filtered and throttled down, I have recently incurred keying delays with a 6th generation i7 3.4GHz 16GB memory and a separate video card with its own memory.

I now have a Winkey3 USB and it is great! 


73, Gerry K8GT


On Thursday, February 22, 2018, 4:52:48 PM EST, ve3iay@... [N1MMLoggerplus] wrote:


 
Who knows? It might happen at the next Windows update, or it might never be a problem. The important take-away is that it is unpredictable; every installation is different.

73,
Rich VE3KI


---In N1MMLoggerplus@..., wrote :

I have been keying direct for a little over 10 years, how much longer do you guess I have to wait???????

73,
Tom – W4BQF
 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Gary Hunt kc9ee@... [N1MMLoggerplus]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:37 AM
To: N1MMLoggerplus@...
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK
 
 
In N1MM+ I'm using a virtual Com Port for the K3 (Pair Com22,Com23)for CAT. That's running through Win4K3Suite. I have WinKey on Comport 10, check mark in CW/other. DTR always on, RTS always off for ComPort10. WinKey through N1MM+ keys the rig as smooth as a key. The K3 will key directly, contrary to urban myth, however it is problematic. Anyone keying directly and not having a problem just hasn't had a problem YET.
 
73,
Gary KC9EE
 
 
From: "Tom Fitzpatrick k4ie_tom@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
To: n1mmloggerplus@...
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:27 AM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK
 
 
     How do I set up N1MM+ for QSK? I'm running a K3.
 
 


Re: QSK

kc9ee
 

OK, you're right, I'm wrong. My apologies. Have fun.

73,

Gary KC9EE




From: "Tom aldermant@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
To: "N1MMLoggerplus@..."
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:08 PM
Subject: RE: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK

 
I have been keying direct for a little over 10 years, how much longer do you guess I have to wait???????

73,
Tom – W4BQF
 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Gary Hunt kc9ee@... [N1MMLoggerplus]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:37 AM
To: N1MMLoggerplus@...
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK
 
 
In N1MM+ I'm using a virtual Com Port for the K3 (Pair Com22,Com23)for CAT. That's running through Win4K3Suite. I have WinKey on Comport 10, check mark in CW/other. DTR always on, RTS always off for ComPort10. WinKey through N1MM+ keys the rig as smooth as a key. The K3 will key directly, contrary to urban myth, however it is problematic. Anyone keying directly and not having a problem just hasn't had a problem YET.
 
73,
Gary KC9EE
 
 
From: "Tom Fitzpatrick k4ie_tom@yahoo..com [N1MMLoggerplus]"
To: n1mmloggerplus@...
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:27 AM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK
 
 
     How do I set up N1MM+ for QSK? I'm running a K3.
 
 


Re: QSK

Gerry Treas
 

I have been direct keying for about 10 years also and it has worked great most of the time.  Bute to the large number of incoming Telnet spots even filtered and throttled down, I have recently incurred keying delays with a 6th generation i7 3.4GHz 16GB memory and a separate video card with its own memory.

I now have a Winkey3 USB and it is great! 


73, Gerry K8GT


On Thursday, February 22, 2018, 4:52:48 PM EST, ve3iay@... [N1MMLoggerplus] wrote:


 

Who knows? It might happen at the next Windows update, or it might never be a problem. The important take-away is that it is unpredictable; every installation is different.


73,
Rich VE3KI


---In N1MMLoggerplus@..., wrote :

I have been keying direct for a little over 10 years, how much longer do you guess I have to wait???????

73,

Tom – W4BQF

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Hunt kc9ee@... [N1MMLoggerplus]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:37 AM
To: N1MMLoggerplus@...
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK

 

 

In N1MM+ I'm using a virtual Com Port for the K3 (Pair Com22,Com23)for CAT. That's running through Win4K3Suite. I have WinKey on Comport 10, check mark in CW/other. DTR always on, RTS always off for ComPort10. WinKey through N1MM+ keys the rig as smooth as a key. The K3 will key directly, contrary to urban myth, however it is problematic. Anyone keying directly and not having a problem just hasn't had a problem YET.

 

73,

Gary KC9EE

 

 

From: "Tom Fitzpatrick k4ie_tom@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
To: n1mmloggerplus@...
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:27 AM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK

 

 

     How do I set up N1MM+ for QSK? I'm running a K3.

 

 

Re: QSK

ve3ki
 

Who knows? It might happen at the next Windows update, or it might never be a problem. The important take-away is that it is unpredictable; every installation is different.

73,
Rich VE3KI


---In N1MMLoggerplus@..., <aldermant@...> wrote :

I have been keying direct for a little over 10 years, how much longer do you guess I have to wait???????

73,

Tom – W4BQF

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Hunt kc9ee@... [N1MMLoggerplus]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:37 AM
To: N1MMLoggerplus@...
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK

 

 

In N1MM+ I'm using a virtual Com Port for the K3 (Pair Com22,Com23)for CAT. That's running through Win4K3Suite. I have WinKey on Comport 10, check mark in CW/other. DTR always on, RTS always off for ComPort10. WinKey through N1MM+ keys the rig as smooth as a key. The K3 will key directly, contrary to urban myth, however it is problematic. Anyone keying directly and not having a problem just hasn't had a problem YET.

 

73,

Gary KC9EE

 

 

From: "Tom Fitzpatrick k4ie_tom@... [N1MMLoggerplus]" <N1MMLoggerplus@...>
To: n1mmloggerplus@...
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:27 AM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK

 

 

     How do I set up N1MM+ for QSK? I'm running a K3.

 

 

Re: QSK

Tom <aldermant@...>
 

I have been keying direct for a little over 10 years, how much longer do you guess I have to wait???????

73,

Tom – W4BQF

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Hunt kc9ee@... [N1MMLoggerplus]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:37 AM
To: N1MMLoggerplus@...
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK

 

 

In N1MM+ I'm using a virtual Com Port for the K3 (Pair Com22,Com23)for CAT. That's running through Win4K3Suite. I have WinKey on Comport 10, check mark in CW/other. DTR always on, RTS always off for ComPort10. WinKey through N1MM+ keys the rig as smooth as a key. The K3 will key directly, contrary to urban myth, however it is problematic. Anyone keying directly and not having a problem just hasn't had a problem YET.

 

73,

Gary KC9EE

 

 

From: "Tom Fitzpatrick k4ie_tom@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
To: n1mmloggerplus@...
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:27 AM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK

 

 

     How do I set up N1MM+ for QSK? I'm running a K3.

 

 

Re: QSK

Tom Fitzpatrick <k4ie_tom@...>
 

Knew it had something to do with setup. Will give it a try. Thanks.


Tom, K4IE


On Thursday, February 22, 2018, 11:37:21 AM EST, Gary Hunt kc9ee@... [N1MMLoggerplus] wrote:


 

In N1MM+ I'm using a virtual Com Port for the K3 (Pair Com22,Com23)for CAT. That's running through Win4K3Suite. I have WinKey on Comport 10, check mark in CW/other. DTR always on, RTS always off for ComPort10. WinKey through N1MM+ keys the rig as smooth as a key. The K3 will key directly, contrary to urban myth, however it is problematic. Anyone keying directly and not having a problem just hasn't had a problem YET.

73,
Gary KC9EE




From: "Tom Fitzpatrick k4ie_tom@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
To: n1mmloggerplus@...
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:27 AM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK

 
     How do I set up N1MM+ for QSK? I'm running a K3.


Re: Way to disable changing frequency by entering Khz in call window?

gboutin@...
 

Tim,

Try Alt+F8 in S&P.


> Gerald, VE1DT


---In N1MMLoggerplus@..., <tshoppa@...> wrote :

This happens to me in any serial number or power number exchange contest. Accidentally type the serial number into the callsign field of the entry window, hit return, and boom my frequency is the other end of the band and I manically figure out how to get back where I was. If I was running it's just Alt-Q to get me back, if I was S&P it's tougher.

Although I think N1MM has always had this "feature", it has happened a lot more to me in the past few weeks - WPX RTTY serial number, ARRL DX power number - than I remember it ever happening in the past. So maybe some logic that used to prevent simple typos from causing QSY's, has been changed.

Tim N3QE

Re: Way to disable changing frequency by entering Khz in call window?

Bostjan Voncina
 

This feature is superb and the errors you are encountering are only because of operator errors. With more practice and focus they dissapear.

gl Bostjan s55o


22. feb. 2018 18:42 je oseba "tshoppa@... [N1MMLoggerplus]" <N1MMLoggerplus@...> napisala:

 

This happens to me in any serial number or power number exchange contest. Accidentally type the serial number into the callsign field of the entry window, hit return, and boom my frequency is the other end of the band and I manically figure out how to get back where I was. If I was running it's just Alt-Q to get me back, if I was S&P it's tougher.


Although I think N1MM has always had this "feature", it has happened a lot more to me in the past few weeks - WPX RTTY serial number, ARRL DX power number - than I remember it ever happening in the past. So maybe some logic that used to prevent simple typos from causing QSY's, has been changed.

Tim N3QE


Re: ESM

John Bednar
 

Ed,

In Configurer there is box that allows you to control the character sent between the callsign and exchange. 

The default is a space. You may have inserted a "?" in that box.

John, K3CT


-----Original Message-----
From: ai6o@... [N1MMLoggerplus]
To: N1MMLoggerplus
Sent: Thu, Feb 22, 2018 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerplus] ESM

 
Thanks Claude, I will do so but it will have to be later this afternoon as I am at the office.  Thanks again.

Ed, AI6O

Re: Way to disable changing frequency by entering Khz in call window?

Tim Shoppa
 

This happens to me in any serial number or power number exchange contest. Accidentally type the serial number into the callsign field of the entry window, hit return, and boom my frequency is the other end of the band and I manically figure out how to get back where I was. If I was running it's just Alt-Q to get me back, if I was S&P it's tougher.

Although I think N1MM has always had this "feature", it has happened a lot more to me in the past few weeks - WPX RTTY serial number, ARRL DX power number - than I remember it ever happening in the past. So maybe some logic that used to prevent simple typos from causing QSY's, has been changed.

Tim N3QE

Way to disable changing frequency by entering Khz in call window?

Tom Schaefer NY4I
 

Apparently, during a recent RTTY contest, the operator somehow entered a number in the call window. When they hit enter (or right click since we use Right Click = Enter for ESM exclusively), they changed frequencies. I think how it was described is the op said he mysteriously changed frequencies to 14.001 so I believe a 1 was entered in the call box and upon enter, the radio changed to 14.001. This was a case of the op being in the wrong box when they were correcting a received number.

While I like that feature to quickly change frequencies, is there a way to stop that behavior so the program will not change frequencies if I enter a 1. It might be good for newer people to not have this option.

Thanks,

Tom NY4I

727-437-2771

Re: ESM

Edwin Felter
 

Thanks Claude, I will do so but it will have to be later this afternoon as I am at the office.  Thanks again.


Ed, AI6O

Re: QSK

kc9ee
 

In N1MM+ I'm using a virtual Com Port for the K3 (Pair Com22,Com23)for CAT. That's running through Win4K3Suite. I have WinKey on Comport 10, check mark in CW/other. DTR always on, RTS always off for ComPort10. WinKey through N1MM+ keys the rig as smooth as a key. The K3 will key directly, contrary to urban myth, however it is problematic. Anyone keying directly and not having a problem just hasn't had a problem YET.

73,
Gary KC9EE




From: "Tom Fitzpatrick k4ie_tom@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
To: n1mmloggerplus@...
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:27 AM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] QSK

 
     How do I set up N1MM+ for QSK? I'm running a K3.


Re: ESM

VE2FK
 

Ed, send us a copy of your macros, will compare and see
where is the error.
73


Le 2018-02-22 � 11:05, ai6o@... [N1MMLoggerplus] a �crit�:

�

Running in ESM on latest version using Win 7, I call CQ, then type in the answering callsign.�I press enter (F2 is highlighted)�and the exchange starts with his callsign but I get a question mark after his callsign and then the rest of the exchange is sent.� Confuses everyone!


If I do not press enter but press�F2 it works perfectly, sending his callsign (but with NO ?) and the exchange is sent.� Am I wrong in thinking that the first method (using Enter) should work without the ? after his callsign?�


Some of you reading this may have heard me on CWOPs last night when I was running.� Sorry!


Ed, AI6O

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PROBLEM SOLVED Fwd: [N1MMLoggerplus] Frequency in Entry Window/Click on Spot in Available Window/Bandmap No t Working

Fred - NA2U
 

Thanks N3RD and K3CT.  My apologies for not posting sooner. 

73 from the Big Island,

Fred/KH6/NA2U

Begin forwarded message:

From: "'Fred - NA2U' cwman@... [N1MMLoggerplus]" <N1MMLoggerplus@...>
Date: February 21, 2018 at 4:54:16 PM HST
To: N1MMLoggerplus@...
Cc: cwman@...
Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] Frequency in Entry Window/Click on Spot in Available Window/Bandmap No t Working
Reply-To: N1MMLoggerplus@...

We had a last minute change of radio prior to start of ARRL DX CW.  We took out a 1000MP Mark V and put in an FTDX-5000.  Using an Expert 1.3K-FA amplifier.  There was not time to make adjustments to the amplifier prior to the contest.  We were able to get through the contest FB.

Following the contest adjustments were made in the amp so the auto-tune feature would work.  This required changing the baud rate from 4800 for use with the 1000MP to 38,400 to match the 5000.  When we did this the amp auto-tune and frequency control functions worked as they should.  N1MM is following the radio frequency BUT we find that when we enter a frequency in the Entry window and press

This one really has us puzzled.  Suggestions on how to solve the mystery?  Thanks.

73 and aloha from the Big Island

Fred/KH6/NA2U


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