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Re: MTMA Launch Information

John Ulizzi
 

Thanks Jeff,

That clarifies things quite a bit. 

Also thanks to John and Micheal, your comments are right in point for the bigger picture. 

John U. 


On May 25, 2019, at 11:19 AM, John Bryan via Groups.Io <scott_650@...> wrote:

Hello MTMA folks!

 I’ve been on your mailing list for a while now but, unfortunately, haven’t been able to attend any launches - hopefully now that I have most of this retirement thing figured out that’ll change. I’ve never been much of a “joiner” but having like-minded LPR folks to launch with and a place to do it sounds pretty good so becoming a member is on my agenda.

If you’ve ever struggled to find a launch site or had your site taken away because somebody was worried about “those dangerous toy fireworks” like I have please do your best to follow your procedures in order to keep your current site! It’s awesome that your club has a solid positive relationship with Aurora and the RC club. Kudos to you all and your leadership.

Hoping to meet with you all soon - thanks for your attention to my perspective,

John Bryan 

On Saturday, May 25, 2019, 9:56:27 AM EDT, Jeff Kodysz <jeffk813@...> wrote:


Greetings,

In light of some recent (understandable) confusion over the types of launches we hold, I have put together the attached PDF document. Hopefully it will explain in better detail our current different launch types and the requirements for each.

If, after reading this document, you have any further questions regarding this topic, or any other that pertains to the MTMA, please feel free to reach out to me and I will answer any questions you have. I can be reached at jeffk813@... in addition to on this list.

Thanks

Jeff

Re: MTMA Launch Information

michaelgrossman666
 

If you join the club your helping to preserve a place for you and hopefully your kids and grandkids to launch and fly at we put alot of work into the field this past 2 years with adition of the electric the runway cutting the grass so that little bit you pay for dues goes a long way



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy Tablet

-------- Original message --------
From: "John Bryan via Groups.Io" <scott_650@...>
Date: 5/25/19 11:19 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: MTMA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MTMA] MTMA Launch Information

Hello MTMA folks!

 I’ve been on your mailing list for a while now but, unfortunately, haven’t been able to attend any launches - hopefully now that I have most of this retirement thing figured out that’ll change. I’ve never been much of a “joiner” but having like-minded LPR folks to launch with and a place to do it sounds pretty good so becoming a member is on my agenda.

If you’ve ever struggled to find a launch site or had your site taken away because somebody was worried about “those dangerous toy fireworks” like I have please do your best to follow your procedures in order to keep your current site! It’s awesome that your club has a solid positive relationship with Aurora and the RC club. Kudos to you all and your leadership.

Hoping to meet with you all soon - thanks for your attention to my perspective,

John Bryan 

On Saturday, May 25, 2019, 9:56:27 AM EDT, Jeff Kodysz <jeffk813@...> wrote:


Greetings,

In light of some recent (understandable) confusion over the types of launches we hold, I have put together the attached PDF document. Hopefully it will explain in better detail our current different launch types and the requirements for each.

If, after reading this document, you have any further questions regarding this topic, or any other that pertains to the MTMA, please feel free to reach out to me and I will answer any questions you have. I can be reached at jeffk813@... in addition to on this list.

Thanks

Jeff

Re: MTMA Launch Information

John Bryan
 

Hello MTMA folks!

 I’ve been on your mailing list for a while now but, unfortunately, haven’t been able to attend any launches - hopefully now that I have most of this retirement thing figured out that’ll change. I’ve never been much of a “joiner” but having like-minded LPR folks to launch with and a place to do it sounds pretty good so becoming a member is on my agenda.

If you’ve ever struggled to find a launch site or had your site taken away because somebody was worried about “those dangerous toy fireworks” like I have please do your best to follow your procedures in order to keep your current site! It’s awesome that your club has a solid positive relationship with Aurora and the RC club. Kudos to you all and your leadership.

Hoping to meet with you all soon - thanks for your attention to my perspective,

John Bryan 

On Saturday, May 25, 2019, 9:56:27 AM EDT, Jeff Kodysz <jeffk813@...> wrote:


Greetings,

In light of some recent (understandable) confusion over the types of launches we hold, I have put together the attached PDF document. Hopefully it will explain in better detail our current different launch types and the requirements for each.

If, after reading this document, you have any further questions regarding this topic, or any other that pertains to the MTMA, please feel free to reach out to me and I will answer any questions you have. I can be reached at jeffk813@... in addition to on this list.

Thanks

Jeff

Re: MTMA Launch Information

Gary Stricker
 

At the field now, got a couple of launches in so far. Believe it or not but field is dry as a bone. Light wind and sunny skies so far




On Saturday, May 25, 2019, 9:56 AM, Jeff Kodysz <jeffk813@...> wrote:

Greetings,

In light of some recent (understandable) confusion over the types of launches we hold, I have put together the attached PDF document. Hopefully it will explain in better detail our current different launch types and the requirements for each.

If, after reading this document, you have any further questions regarding this topic, or any other that pertains to the MTMA, please feel free to reach out to me and I will answer any questions you have. I can be reached at jeffk813@... in addition to on this list.

Thanks

Jeff

MTMA Launch Information

Jeff Kodysz
 

Greetings,

In light of some recent (understandable) confusion over the types of launches we hold, I have put together the attached PDF document. Hopefully it will explain in better detail our current different launch types and the requirements for each.

If, after reading this document, you have any further questions regarding this topic, or any other that pertains to the MTMA, please feel free to reach out to me and I will answer any questions you have. I can be reached at jeffk813@... in addition to on this list.

Thanks

Jeff

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

michaelgrossman666
 

And trust and believe there will be people there flying airplanes but as you guys alow us to fly at times when you guys are launching i have no problem flying if you guys want to launch monday we can all get along



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-------- Original message --------
From: Jeff Kodysz <jeffk813@...>
Date: 5/24/19 8:02 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: MTMA@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MTMA] Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Monday is NOT a reserved day for rocket flights. If you wish to fly on Monday, you MUST be a club member and a NAR member, and you must cooperate with any members of the Flying Aces who may wish to fly their RC aircraft as well. 

Jeff

On May 24, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Casey Anderson <bigwake182@...> wrote:

Is Monday fair game too?? If I’m setting up my own gear, would that be a problem?


On May 24, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:

Reminder that this weekend's launch is ONLY for NAR members who are MTMA members in good standing.  Plus you have to bring your own gear. 

Both days are forecast for rain.  Going to be a little breezy Saturday too.  That's enough for me to postpone my involvement for another weekend.  I am not hauling the gear out there and setting it up this weekend.  Any die-hards out there who are both a NAR member and a MTMA member in good standing, have at it.
-Wolf

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

John Ulizzi
 

Wolf, 

With all due respect, I have read through this entire thread twice, and Jon is correct, “your language is imprecise, meaning and procedures unclear”...  You yourself in an earlier email said yes, and then in your last response said no. If that isnt unclear, I dont know what is. This is not an attitude that makes newcomers feel very welcome at all, and I find it hard to believe that this came from the same guy that responded to my very first inquiry to MSTA with the warmest of welcomes moments after I had posted it...

Jon,

Dont give up on us just yet. We’re really a great group of guys and gals, including Wolf ( as long as he takes his anti-crabby pills !🤣). Seriously, I believe Jeff has since spelled out the requirements, including in your case an officer being present for you to attend on this particular weekend.  I would be there but I am returning from out of town tomorrow. If any other officers plan to be present could you please let Jon know ?

Good flying guys! Have fun and be safe!

John


On May 24, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Jon Goldsby <jongoldsby@...> wrote:

I have no intentions of skirting the rules as a 30-year NASA scientist, I always follow the rules.. However your language is imprecise, meaning and procedures unclear.. You have no need to concern yourself further..

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 9:41 PM Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:
Jon you are not a member.  The answer is no.  We repeated the rules a couple times in this thread and I am getting pretty suspicious of someone who either has no patience to read and assimilate what the requirements are, or is trying to skirt the rules.  I have absolutely no patience for that.  

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Jon Goldsby
 

I have no intentions of skirting the rules as a 30-year NASA scientist, I always follow the rules.. However your language is imprecise, meaning and procedures unclear.. You have no need to concern yourself further..

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 9:41 PM Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:
Jon you are not a member.  The answer is no.  We repeated the rules a couple times in this thread and I am getting pretty suspicious of someone who either has no patience to read and assimilate what the requirements are, or is trying to skirt the rules.  I have absolutely no patience for that.  

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Jon you are not a member.  The answer is no.  We repeated the rules a couple times in this thread and I am getting pretty suspicious of someone who either has no patience to read and assimilate what the requirements are, or is trying to skirt the rules.  I have absolutely no patience for that.  

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Jon Goldsby
 

Ok does this mean I have to launch from their launch pad?

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 9:26 PM Jeff Kodysz <jeffk813@...> wrote:
Hi Jon,

In order to fly at the field tomorrow, you must be Both a NAR member and a club member. If however, there is another club member present and they consent, you may fly with them. This is the big difference between an open launch and a bring-your-own-gear launch. 

Jeff

On May 24, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Jon Goldsby <jongoldsby@...> wrote:

I am a NAR member and have attended one of your open launches.  Am I eligible to fly tomorrow?

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 7:26 PM Casey Anderson <bigwake182@...> wrote:
Is Monday fair game too?? If I’m setting up my own gear, would that be a problem?


On May 24, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:

Reminder that this weekend's launch is ONLY for NAR members who are MTMA members in good standing.  Plus you have to bring your own gear. 

Both days are forecast for rain.  Going to be a little breezy Saturday too.  That's enough for me to postpone my involvement for another weekend.  I am not hauling the gear out there and setting it up this weekend.  Any die-hards out there who are both a NAR member and a MTMA member in good standing, have at it.
-Wolf

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Jeff Kodysz
 

Hi Jon,

In order to fly at the field tomorrow, you must be Both a NAR member and a club member. If however, there is another club member present and they consent, you may fly with them. This is the big difference between an open launch and a bring-your-own-gear launch. 

Jeff

On May 24, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Jon Goldsby <jongoldsby@...> wrote:

I am a NAR member and have attended one of your open launches.  Am I eligible to fly tomorrow?

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 7:26 PM Casey Anderson <bigwake182@...> wrote:
Is Monday fair game too?? If I’m setting up my own gear, would that be a problem?


On May 24, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:

Reminder that this weekend's launch is ONLY for NAR members who are MTMA members in good standing.  Plus you have to bring your own gear. 

Both days are forecast for rain.  Going to be a little breezy Saturday too.  That's enough for me to postpone my involvement for another weekend.  I am not hauling the gear out there and setting it up this weekend.  Any die-hards out there who are both a NAR member and a MTMA member in good standing, have at it.
-Wolf

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Jon Goldsby
 

I am a NAR member and have attended one of your open launches.  Am I eligible to fly tomorrow?

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 7:26 PM Casey Anderson <bigwake182@...> wrote:
Is Monday fair game too?? If I’m setting up my own gear, would that be a problem?


On May 24, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:

Reminder that this weekend's launch is ONLY for NAR members who are MTMA members in good standing.  Plus you have to bring your own gear. 

Both days are forecast for rain.  Going to be a little breezy Saturday too.  That's enough for me to postpone my involvement for another weekend.  I am not hauling the gear out there and setting it up this weekend.  Any die-hards out there who are both a NAR member and a MTMA member in good standing, have at it.
-Wolf

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Jeff Kodysz
 

Monday is NOT a reserved day for rocket flights. If you wish to fly on Monday, you MUST be a club member and a NAR member, and you must cooperate with any members of the Flying Aces who may wish to fly their RC aircraft as well. 

Jeff

On May 24, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Casey Anderson <bigwake182@...> wrote:

Is Monday fair game too?? If I’m setting up my own gear, would that be a problem?


On May 24, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:

Reminder that this weekend's launch is ONLY for NAR members who are MTMA members in good standing.  Plus you have to bring your own gear. 

Both days are forecast for rain.  Going to be a little breezy Saturday too.  That's enough for me to postpone my involvement for another weekend.  I am not hauling the gear out there and setting it up this weekend.  Any die-hards out there who are both a NAR member and a MTMA member in good standing, have at it.
-Wolf

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Gary Stricker
 

I'm going to go Saturday and see how it goes



On May 24, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Casey Anderson <bigwake182@...> wrote:


Is Monday fair game too?? If I’m setting up my own gear, would that be a problem?


On May 24, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:

Reminder that this weekend's launch is ONLY for NAR members who are MTMA members in good standing.  Plus you have to bring your own gear. 

Both days are forecast for rain.  Going to be a little breezy Saturday too.  That's enough for me to postpone my involvement for another weekend.  I am not hauling the gear out there and setting it up this weekend.  Any die-hards out there who are both a NAR member and a MTMA member in good standing, have at it.
-Wolf

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Casey Anderson
 

Is Monday fair game too?? If I’m setting up my own gear, would that be a problem?


On May 24, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:

Reminder that this weekend's launch is ONLY for NAR members who are MTMA members in good standing.  Plus you have to bring your own gear. 

Both days are forecast for rain.  Going to be a little breezy Saturday too.  That's enough for me to postpone my involvement for another weekend.  I am not hauling the gear out there and setting it up this weekend.  Any die-hards out there who are both a NAR member and a MTMA member in good standing, have at it.
-Wolf

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Reminder that this weekend's launch is ONLY for NAR members who are MTMA members in good standing.  Plus you have to bring your own gear. 

Both days are forecast for rain.  Going to be a little breezy Saturday too.  That's enough for me to postpone my involvement for another weekend.  I am not hauling the gear out there and setting it up this weekend.  Any die-hards out there who are both a NAR member and a MTMA member in good standing, have at it.
-Wolf

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Jennifer Davis
 

Are thing a go for tomorrow or Sunday?

On May 21, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:

Current field conditions:  wet everywhere, and muddy where a lot of people walk around.  Boots and long pants are strongly advised.  Leave the shorts and sandals at home.

TARC 2019

J E Thompson
 

It was terrific to finally make it to a TARC event. Especially to help celebrate the 50th Anniversary of Apollo 11.
It was great to meet Mike Nowak at the event and talk rocketry :-)

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Current field conditions:  wet everywhere, and muddy where a lot of people walk around.  Boots and long pants are strongly advised.  Leave the shorts and sandals at home.

Re: Upcoming Event: MTMA-NAR Member-Only Launch - Sat, 05/25/2019 10:00am-4:00pm #cal-reminder

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Yes, you may join us to fly.  No, we still don't offer online membership - look for it sometime later this year.  Prospective new MTMA members who can show NAR membership get their MTMA membership fee waived.