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A new sub-group for Satpy Processing System" (SPS)
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Folks,
I'm getting complaints about the number of messages relating to 'Satpy Processing System" (SPS)' and I know a small number of folk have left the group as a result. Groups.IO has the ability to create sub-groups so I think that creating a subgroup for Satpy might be worthwhile? What should the group be called? "Satpy" or something else? Something more general? I'll try to do this as soon as possible. Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: https://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@... Twitter: @gm8arv |
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James Brown
Whilst it doesn’t worry me personally, in a sense it doesn’t perhaps directly relate to reception concerns, more about processing? So perhaps a subgroup would keep us more focussed here?
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But I am really quite easy either way. Thank you David. James On 21 Nov 2022, at 09:13, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴 🇪🇺 via groups.io <david-taylor@...> wrote: |
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Ernst Lobsiger
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 01:13 AM, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴 🇪🇺 wrote:
David, I clearly vote against such an additional subgroup. If I press MSG-1 "Home" I read: " For EUMETSAT Meteosat Second Generation (MSG) weather satellite and EUMETCast service users, to provide a dedicated area for sharing information about hardware and software for receiving and processing EUMETCast data. " Satpy is such processing software and SPS is Satpy for EUMETCast like MetopManager as well. Now different users say to receive different outputs with the same MetopManager and the same setup. The offending SPS thread could have been considerably shorter if the above problem, that seems to relate to your software, could have been solved. Best regards, Ernst P.S. I'll try to work more with PMs, but if you really want to make an SPS subgroup maybe you could also make a subgroup for Enzo type questions? I will not post on an SPS subgroup but rather use the existing google PyTROLL/Satpy group which is more GNU/Linux friendly than MSG-1 as well. |
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Douglas Deans
On 21/11/2022 10:09, Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io wrote:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 01:13 AM, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴 🇪🇺 wrote:===================================================================================== I agree with Ernst above comment on this one. It is about hardware and software. There has been a lot in the past week but like other events it gets resolved and ends. There was much discussed recently about the new basic channels which is fair enough but most was because people could not be bothered reading Eumetsat's web page. You don't leave a group just because a topic (which is relevant) lasting a few days does not interest you ! Having said that if my mails have annoyed people I apologise. Regards, Douglas. |
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fvalk@...
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-----Original Message-----============================== David, It does seem to me the wrong path to take. Subjects pertinent to MSG come and go and volume of messages fluctuates with it. If people are finding this a reason to quit the group, then most likely they were passive users anyway. Versatility is what keeps the field alive and well, and learning new stuff should be a bonus to all. With MTG coming and MSG then fading out, on which platform will users be made aware that this is not the end of the line for the hobby but the start of something new? A new group would only estrange people from this. My 2 cents. Cheers, Ferdinand |
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On 21/11/2022 11:25, fvalk@... wrote:
David,Thanks for your considered views, Ferdinand. I do hope that the information gathered during the discussion can be gathered somewhere more permanent for folk to access. A Wiki might be a suitable repository. There is a EUMETCast Wiki, and it would be great to see the Satpy information added. The page is ready for you to fill: http://eumetcast.pbworks.com/w/page/151169412/Satpy Douglas Brown and James Brown are already writer, and I've added Ernst. There actually is an MTG group, but discussions regarding MTG are welcome here, of course. Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: https://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@... Twitter: @gm8arv |
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Ernst Lobsiger
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 03:47 AM, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴 🇪🇺 wrote:
Douglas Brown and James Brown are already writer, and I've added Ernst.David, these MSG-1 Wikis have been around for quite some time now and have never been really used. I'm not interested in more platforms and more access credentials to manage. Those MSG-1 users that are really annoyed about SPS (if there are any at all) can simply mute the topic. But they probably never read the user manual of the group either. Cheers, Ernst |
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R. Alblas
Ernst, Unless you don't concern people who want to start now/later with your scriptset, it may be handy to store your new stuff somewhere. As far as I know it is now 'lost' because you did use Wetransfer. So nobody can download your V40 version anymore? (I have it, though). The v30-version was distributed as an attachment which is still available (I have added links on my web-page). Regards, Rob.
On 21-11-2022 13:25, Ernst Lobsiger via
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 03:47 AM, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴 🇪🇺 wrote: |
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nigel
On 21/11/2022 11:12, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴 🇪🇺 via groups.io wrote:
Folks,Hi David, in my humble opinion, a sub group for any topic would be an unnecessary step - when would it be started ? When the subject is first raised? When would it deem to have ended? When there haven't been any additions for, say, 1 week/month ??? One can always press the delete button if the subject is not of interest but reading the gist of all messages can sometimes throw an unexpected light on a closely related problem. The fairly recent discussion on the merits of CMR v SMR recording on hard disks, for example, initially looked a bit academic to me but subsequently proved (I strongly suspect) to be the cause of my current hard disk problems and has helped my find a replacement. If it had been in a subgroup I probably wouldn't have read it !! Regards Nigel |
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Robert Moore
Agree with Nigel, moving SPS to a separate list might have the effect of removing some current list members from more general discussions. The delete button is one of the things that works well in my system!
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From: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> On Behalf Of nigel Sent: 21 November 2022 14:04 To: MSG-1@groups.io Subject: Re: [MSG-1] A new sub-group for Satpy Processing System" (SPS) On 21/11/2022 11:12, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴 🇪🇺 via groups.io wrote: Folks,Hi David, in my humble opinion, a sub group for any topic would be an unnecessary step - when would it be started ? When the subject is first raised? When would it deem to have ended? When there haven't been any additions for, say, 1 week/month ??? One can always press the delete button if the subject is not of interest but reading the gist of all messages can sometimes throw an unexpected light on a closely related problem. The fairly recent discussion on the merits of CMR v SMR recording on hard disks, for example, initially looked a bit academic to me but subsequently proved (I strongly suspect) to be the cause of my current hard disk problems and has helped my find a replacement. If it had been in a subgroup I probably wouldn't have read it !! Regards Nigel |
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On 21/11/2022 14:11, Robert Moore wrote:
Agree with Nigel, moving SPS to a separate list might have the effect of removing some current list members from more general discussions. The delete button is one of the things that works well in my system!Just to clarify, it's a sub-group, /not/ a separate list. Those who are interested in both could subscribe to both. However, those who have spoken prefer the group as is, so there's no need to create the sub-group. I do take Rob's point about information being lost, and that's why I suggest the Wiki which already exists. It is disappointing that it is not used more, but perhaps now is the time to start using it. Information such as Rob mentions can be stored in the Wiki as well as pages. The advantage is that it's not fixed in time, and pages can be edited and updated by the users. Do populate the Wiki with your knowledge to help others - please! Thanks! I use email to read the group, and Thunderbird can easily filter messages based on topic title or body content. Perhaps those who use the Web interface can advise how that's done. So let's move on now to the new transponders and new 10B satellite discussions. Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: https://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@... Twitter: @gm8arv |
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Reminds me of the time when usenet groups suddenly were absorbed my new fora
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(lat. plural of forum) emanating from everywhere. It had its pros and cons, the cons consisting (as the name implies) of lost contacts, lost interaction, but this is the problem if you want to press all variations and variants of contents through a single narrow nozzle. A subgroup seems to be a very elegant solution. David's numerous maillists show that a friendly coexistence is possible, feasible, and profitable. I am not sure if I qualify as a voter, but it, I'd cast my ballot into the subgroups bin. Cheers, U. Datum: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 14:41:46 +0000 Betreff: Re: [MSG-1] A new sub-group for Satpy Processing System" (SPS) An: <MSG-1@groups.io> Von: David J Taylor GM8ARV ðŸ�'ó �§ó �¢ó �³ó �£ ó �'ó �¿ ðŸªðŸº via groups.io <david-taylor@...> Antwort an: <MSG-1@groups.io> I do take Rob's point about information being lost, and that's why |
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nigel
Hi Rob, yes, I tried to download Ernst's version 4.0 scripts ( for future use when I've got my hard disk/Windows 7 upgrade problems sorted) but got stumped with the WeTransfer page! I've looked on your "http://www.alblas.demon.nl/SatPy/index.html" page but can't see it - could you point me in the right direction, when convenient, please? Thanks very much Nigel On 21/11/2022 15:24, R. Alblas wrote:
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Ernst Lobsiger
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 08:04 AM, nigel wrote:
yes, I tried to download Ernst's version 4.0 scripts ( for future use when I've got my hard disk/Windows 7 upgrade problems sorted) but got stumped with the WeTransfer page!Nigel, just wait some more time. There will be an update of V4.0 (probably before Christmas) that comes with MetopB/MetopC and NOAA20/SNPP mutipass. As I said when publishing V4.0: Let's see whether some Windows users can get this going. Then I will think about a more intelligent way to distribute it. V 4.0 under GNU/Linux should run on RPI (as you have demonstrated with V 3.0) and on stuff like the SR950 as has just been shown by Roberto at ISPRA. https://lenovopress.lenovo.com/lp1430-sr950-sap-bw-hana-13b-benchmark-result-2021-01-28 Stay tuned, Ernst 
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john.haslam4@...
Ernst
Installed V4.0 successfully under Windows 10 Pytroll v0.38 Pycoast V1.6.1 Got it working for LEO SNPP and NOAA20 for area "omerc" and GEO MSG4 and GOES16. after a little trial and error producing MSG4 images with DWD MSLP Thanks for making this available John |
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R. Alblas
Nigel, I have placed a note about v4.0 on my website. Just waiting for the 'official' release, as Ernst already said. Regards, Rob. On 21-11-2022 17:04, nigel wrote:
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