SkyStar 2 eXpress HD


Geoff Morris <satgroups@...>
 

I see on the Eumetsat Eumetcast migration page, they are including the
SkyStar 2 eXpress HD card, and its USB version in the list of devices
they use. They only give installation info for Linux, but both devices
will work under windows. I wonder if anyone has tried either of these
devices yet..?

I will almost certainly get one of them in the new year, when the parcel
delivery service is more reliable..!! As my interest (at the moment) is
fully served by the basic service, these cards would seem to be ideal.

Cheers..............Geoff
--

Geoff Morris GW3ATZ
Tel 01244 818252
Mobile 07743 589825
gw3atz@...
http://www.gw3atz.co.uk <http://www.gw3atz.co.uk/>

http://www.gw3atz.co.uk/shotton_weather/
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Klaus Link <link.klaus@...>
 

Hi Geoff,please find the text of a former message I shared with Vincenzo.
The sequence of starting telicast is server4pc, then SS2XPFIX.exe, then Telicast.I'm running W7 32bit Home Edition and the receiving of the Basic Service is very stable.
Hope this helps a bitkind regardsKlaus


 
Hi Vincenzo,
 
I have tried nearly all products from Technisat. The only card I was able
to
setup for operation was and is the SS2 express HD with the SS2XPFIX.exe
program.
Without the fix, I saw a signal but often switching off and on.
With all other cards I was not able to find a signal at 11263 H 33000 kS/s
on
Eutelsat 10A Of course there are a few TV channels on the satellite but
this
does not help regarding Eumetsat.
 
The Skystar 2 express HD was an investment of approx.. 44 Euro at Amazon
 
Hope this helped a little bit
 
ciao e Buona sera
 
Klaus
 
"Geoff Morris satgroups@... [MSG-1]" <MSG-1@...> schrieb am 12:00 Donnerstag, 18.Dezember 2014:


  I see on the Eumetsat Eumetcast migration page, they are including the
SkyStar 2 eXpress HD card, and its USB version in the list of devices
they use. They only give installation info for Linux, but both devices
will work under windows. I wonder if anyone has tried either of these
devices yet..?

I will almost certainly get one of them in the new year, when the parcel
delivery service is more reliable..!! As my interest (at the moment) is
fully served by the basic service, these cards would seem to be ideal.

Cheers..............Geoff
--

Geoff Morris GW3ATZ
Tel 01244 818252
Mobile 07743 589825
gw3atz@...
http://www.gw3atz.co.uk <http://www.gw3atz.co.uk/>

http://www.gw3atz.co.uk/shotton_weather/
<http://www.gw3atz.co.uk/pywws/index.php>

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Ian Deans
 

Geoff, I have a Technisat HD USB DVB-S2 box the same as the one shown on the migration page. It will not work under Windows for the basic service as it is not compatible with VCM . You can receive the odd bit of data but you will have hundreds of missed packets in minutes due to the HVService interference.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Morris satgroups@... [MSG-1]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:00 AM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: [MSG-1] SkyStar 2 eXpress HD

I see on the Eumetsat Eumetcast migration page, they are including the
SkyStar 2 eXpress HD card, and its USB version in the list of devices
they use. They only give installation info for Linux, but both devices
will work under windows. I wonder if anyone has tried either of these
devices yet..?

I will almost certainly get one of them in the new year, when the parcel
delivery service is more reliable..!! As my interest (at the moment) is
fully served by the basic service, these cards would seem to be ideal.

Cheers..............Geoff
--

Geoff Morris GW3ATZ
Tel 01244 818252
Mobile 07743 589825
gw3atz@...
http://www.gw3atz.co.uk <http://www.gw3atz.co.uk/>


Ernst Lobsiger
 

Ian


As reported several times the TechniSat Skystar 2 eXpress HD and the SkyStar HD USB DVBS-2 box do work under GNU/Linux for the Basic Service even if they do not know about VCM. It's one single bit that you must set in a demodulator register. The demodulator works then like an Ayecka SR1 in dual mode (where you do not use the second demodulator). The problem of Windows drivers was that they did not know about that while in the Open Source drivers under GNU/Linux (once the problem was understood) this could easily be fixed.


CrazyCat has made a fix for ignorant Windows drivers and so there have now been reports that (at least the PCIe Card) works as well under Windows. These devices have the same demodulator as the 85 Euro TBS-5980 USB box that runs fine as a Basic Service receiver for Arne van Belle with CrazyCat software.


EUMETSAT has tested the SkyStar receivers under GNU/Linux so far and found them to work just fine.


So Ian please try to use the CrazyCat fix that you find on this list and chances are it cures your packet loss as well. I would really like to see a SkyStar 2 USB HD box running as a Basic Service receiver under Windows.




Regards


Ernst






---In MSG-1@..., <iandeans142@...> wrote :

Geoff, I have a Technisat HD USB DVB-S2 box the same as the one shown on the
migration page. It will not work under Windows for the basic service as it
is not compatible with VCM . You can receive the odd bit of data but you
will have hundreds of missed packets in minutes due to the HVService
interference.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Morris satgroups@... mailto:satgroups@... [MSG-1]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:00 AM
To: MSG-1@... mailto:MSG-1@...
Subject: [MSG-1] SkyStar 2 eXpress HD

I see on the Eumetsat Eumetcast migration page, they are including the
SkyStar 2 eXpress HD card, and its USB version in the list of devices
they use. They only give installation info for Linux, but both devices
will work under windows. I wonder if anyone has tried either of these
devices yet..?

I will almost certainly get one of them in the new year, when the parcel
delivery service is more reliable..!! As my interest (at the moment) is
fully served by the basic service, these cards would seem to be ideal.

Cheers..............Geoff
--

Geoff Morris GW3ATZ
Tel 01244 818252
Mobile 07743 589825
gw3atz@... mailto:gw3atz@...
http://www.gw3atz.co.uk http://www.gw3atz.co.uk <http://www.gw3atz.co.uk/ http://www.gw3atz.co.uk/>


Ian Deans
 

Ernst,

I set up my Technisat HD USB box again but the CrazyCat fix SS2XPFDX.ex will not load on my computer with the message it has stopped working. I have tried all compatibility ( I am running Windows 8.1 ) but with no success. The box goes in and out of lock because of the VCM problem with an SNR about 11.00.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: ernst.lobsiger@... [MSG-1]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:05 PM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] SkyStar 2 eXpress HD

Ian


As reported several times the TechniSat Skystar 2 eXpress HD and the SkyStar HD USB DVBS-2 box do work under GNU/Linux for the Basic Service even if they do not know about VCM. It's one single bit that you must set in a demodulator register. The demodulator works then like an Ayecka SR1 in dual mode (where you do not use the second demodulator). The problem of Windows drivers was that they did not know about that while in the Open Source drivers under GNU/Linux (once the problem was understood) this could easily be fixed.


CrazyCat has made a fix for ignorant Windows drivers and so there have now been reports that (at least the PCIe Card) works as well under Windows. These devices have the same demodulator as the 85 Euro TBS-5980 USB box that runs fine as a Basic Service receiver for Arne van Belle with CrazyCat software.


EUMETSAT has tested the SkyStar receivers under GNU/Linux so far and found them to work just fine.


So Ian please try to use the CrazyCat fix that you find on this list and chances are it cures your packet loss as well. I would really like to see a SkyStar 2 USB HD box running as a Basic Service receiver under Windows.




Regards


Ernst


Nick Norman <nick@...>
 

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On 18/12/14 15:05, ernst.lobsiger@... [MSG-1] wrote:
Ian


As reported several times the TechniSat Skystar 2 eXpress HD and
the SkyStar HD USB DVBS-2 box do work under GNU/Linux for the Basic
Service even if they do not know about VCM. It's one single bit
that you must set in a demodulator register. The demodulator works
then like an Ayecka SR1 in dual mode (where you do not use the
second demodulator). The problem of Windows drivers was that they
did not know about that while in the Open Source drivers under
GNU/Linux (once the problem was understood) this could easily be
fixed.

All,

Well I have just built the drivers on a 64bit Centos6 box here (well
in the loft).

However I had to comment out a part of the compat.h (the bit about
next zero bit & next bit) as it complained it was being re-defined and
it fell over :-(

I've yet to clamber into the loft and power-down and install the new
card - a job for tomorrow I think.

There seems to be at least two copies of the szap-s2 executable in the
downloads from the eumetcast ftp server. I have not diff-ed them to
see how they compare - again a job for tomorrow.

So I'll keep you all posted

Regards/73

Nick
M0HGU

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CrazyCat
 

Ian,

This fix util only for SS2 eXpress.
I don't know how access I2C-bus from user-space with SS HD USB driver.

18.12.14, 22:50, "'Ian Deans' iandeans142@... [MSG-1]" <MSG-1@...>":


I set up my Technisat HD USB box again but the CrazyCat fix SS2XPFDX.ex will
not load on my computer with the message it has stopped working. I have
tried all compatibility ( I am running Windows 8.1 ) but with no success.
The box goes in and out of lock because of the VCM problem with an SNR about
11.00.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: ernst.lobsiger@... [MSG-1]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:05 PM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] SkyStar 2 eXpress HD

Ian

As reported several times the TechniSat Skystar 2 eXpress HD and the SkyStar
HD USB DVBS-2 box do work under GNU/Linux for the Basic Service even if they
do not know about VCM. It's one single bit that you must set in a
demodulator register. The demodulator works then like an Ayecka SR1 in dual
mode (where you do not use the second demodulator). The problem of Windows
drivers was that they did not know about that while in the Open Source
drivers under GNU/Linux (once the problem was understood) this could easily
be fixed.

CrazyCat has made a fix for ignorant Windows drivers and so there have now
been reports that (at least the PCIe Card) works as well under Windows.
These devices have the same demodulator as the 85 Euro TBS-5980 USB box that
runs fine as a Basic Service receiver for Arne van Belle with CrazyCat
software.

EUMETSAT has tested the SkyStar receivers under GNU/Linux so far and found
them to work just fine.

So Ian please try to use the CrazyCat fix that you find on this list and
chances are it cures your packet loss as well. I would really like to see a
SkyStar 2 USB HD box running as a Basic Service receiver under Windows.

Regards

Ernst


Ian Deans
 

Many thanks for your reply -- much appreciated. I have noted that this Technisat HD box will not run the DVB-S2 basic service.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: CrazyCat crazycat69@... [MSG-1]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:43 PM
To: msg-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] SkyStar 2 eXpress HD

Ian,

This fix util only for SS2 eXpress.
I don't know how access I2C-bus from user-space with SS HD USB driver.

18.12.14, 22:50, "'Ian Deans' iandeans142@... [MSG-1]" <MSG-1@...>":

I set up my Technisat HD USB box again but the CrazyCat fix SS2XPFDX.ex will
not load on my computer with the message it has stopped working. I have
tried all compatibility ( I am running Windows 8.1 ) but with no success.
The box goes in and out of lock because of the VCM problem with an SNR about
11.00.

Regards
Ian.


David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Geoff, I have a Technisat HD USB DVB-S2 box the same as the one shown on the
migration page. It will not work under Windows for the basic service as it
is not compatible with VCM . You can receive the odd bit of data but you
will have hundreds of missed packets in minutes due to the HVService
interference.

Regards
Ian.
=================================

Ian,

You may be interested in:

http://www.eumetsat.int/website/wcm/idc/idcplg?IdcService=GET_FILE&dDocName=PDF_DVB_SKYSTAR_WIN_SETUP_GUIDE&RevisionSelectionMethod=LatestReleased&Rendition=Web

"The purpose of this manual is to guide a user through the minimum necessary steps to allow the reception of EUMETCast data (DVB-S2 only BS) on the Technisat Skystar 2 HD PCIe and Skystar USB HD satellite receivers."

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Ernst Lobsiger
 

David and Ian



The bit that must be changed is in a demodulator chip register. From user space you have either to go via the PCIe bus and a PCIe bridge onto the card or via the USB bus and an USB bridge into the box. CrazyCat stated that his utility does only work for the PCIe SkyStar 2 eXpress HD card as he does not know how to get to the hardware via (the closed source) USB driver. Appearently that is why Ian had no success with his USB box.


Now EUMETSAT states that the Windows fix works for the USB box too, which is astonishing to say the least.




Cheers,


Ernst




P.S. Both receivers will work fine under GNU/Linux using CrazyCats Open Source driver stv090x.



---In MSG-1@..., <gm8arv@...> wrote :


Geoff, I have a Technisat HD USB DVB-S2 box the same as the one shown on the
migration page. It will not work under Windows for the basic service as it
is not compatible with VCM . You can receive the odd bit of data but you
will have hundreds of missed packets in minutes due to the HVService
interference.

Regards
Ian.
=================================

Ian,

You may be interested in:

http://www.eumetsat.int/website/wcm/idc/idcplg?IdcService=GET_FILE&dDocName=PDF_DVB_SKYSTAR_WIN_SETUP_GUIDE&RevisionSelectionMethod=LatestReleased&Rendition=Web http://www.eumetsat.int/website/wcm/idc/idcplg?IdcService=GET_FILE&dDocName=PDF_DVB_SKYSTAR_WIN_SETUP_GUIDE&RevisionSelectionMethod=LatestReleased&Rendition=Web

"The purpose of this manual is to guide a user through the minimum necessary
steps to allow the reception of EUMETCast data (DVB-S2 only BS) on the
Technisat Skystar 2 HD PCIe and Skystar USB HD satellite receivers."

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@... mailto:david-taylor@...