David,

true enough, for us lucky ones that live in the footprint of Hotbird. I have good result with a 40cm dish (when it's not windy or rainy!)

The C-band setup is definitely much more expensive that the Ku-band one. But again, since most stations are here in Europe, that's a good way to feed the data.

Regarding future DVB data streams, I have no doubts it's going to be like this for a long long while, there will be enough bitching about changing the dish from the old Met7 to the new setup, and by the time we will get the new MSG birds maybe everything will be on the Internet...

Bye, Luca

It is interesting to wonder why the DVB HotBird transmission was

not originally planned. I suppose that the idea of doing it this
way was not even thought about, yet the cost implications for the
user are the difference between receiving it and not receiving it.
Not to mention trying to install a huge dish for HRIT.

We may never know.

Lawrence,

My history with MSG-1 doesn't go back far enough! At the time when
MSG-1 was being planned, were there even any satellites providing
any digital transmissions for domestic users? It was all analog
until quite recently wasn't it? So no cheap Technisat cards! We
should all thank that power amplifier that failed!

Cheers,
David

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:29:16 -0000, you wrote:

Ulli,

snip

software before you can get to those files. I get the impression,
though, that the present dissemination via Hotbird and soon the C-
band satellite has made things a little easier for Eumetsat, and a
lot cheaper for the users, so likely the DVB dissemination will
remain. That's my reading of the situation.

Cheers,
David

Hello David and Ulli

It is interesting to wonder why the DVB HotBird transmission was not
originally planned. I suppose that the idea of doing it this way was
not even thought about, yet the cost implications for the user are the
difference between receiving it and not receiving it. Not to mention
trying to install a huge dish for HRIT.

We may never know.

Lawrence

From the MSG official site, I understand that it was originally

intended to use

the new bird itself for the propagation of the data now sent from

hotbird. Is

that right? Would it have been the same format?
Will there be a redistribution from a future Meteosat like in the

past (of

course with the new data format)?

Ulli,

Yes, at some point in the future MSG-2 and MSG-3 (I already feel off-
topic!) will disseminate directly, and the file format will be the
same, but it will require different hardware and receiver processing
software before you can get to those files. I get the impression,
though, that the present dissemination via Hotbird and soon the C-
band satellite has made things a little easier for Eumetsat, and a
lot cheaper for the users, so likely the DVB dissemination will
remain. That's my reading of the situation.

Cheers,
David

On 22 Aug 2003 at 8:38, Douglas Deans wrote:

Good idea for non DJT software related topics.
Wish it success.

Douglas.

Hi crowd ;)

Me too :) It seems I was the first to enlist this morning. Wow. My MSG
frontend is in the make.

From the MSG official site, I understand that it was originally intended to use
the new bird itself for the propagation of the data now sent from hotbird. Is
that right? Would it have been the same format?
Will there be a redistribution from a future Meteosat like in the past (of
course with the new data format)?

Regards,

Ulli (who started listening to the APT chirp of Meteosat 2 or 3, won't
remember right now...)