Data Manager and FY


fvalk@...
 

David,

 

The MSG Data Manager has the option to save the raw data for use in e.g. another program environment. This has always worked well for all sorts of data but now that I’m trying to re-use the raw data of Feng Yun 2 G&H, I can’t find it anywhere. The GOMS data, that comes in over the same E1B-TPG-1 is saved in my Raw-destination but the FY data not. On the FSD Channel Selection page I do see a specific “keep raw data” setting for Goms, but the CMA data lacks this specificity.

Am I doing something wrong from my side or is this the way it presently works.

If the latter is the case, would it be possible to extend the saving to FY data as well?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers,

Ferdinand


David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 06/09/2022 16:44, fvalk@... wrote:
David,

The MSG Data Manager has the option to save the raw data for use in e.g.
another program environment. This has always worked well for all sorts of data
but now that I’m trying to re-use the raw data of Feng Yun 2 G&H, I can’t find
it anywhere. The GOMS data, that comes in over the same E1B-TPG-1 is saved in
my Raw-destination but the FY data not. On the FSD Channel Selection page I do
see a specific “keep raw data” setting for Goms, but the CMA data lacks this
specificity.

Am I doing something wrong from my side or is this the way it presently works.

If the latter is the case, would it be possible to extend the saving to FY data
as well?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Ferdinand
Ferdinand,

On that page, there should be a group named "Ch.12 data (CMA)". at the bottom
of that group there is a checkbox "Save raw image count". Does that do what
you want? I've not tested it recently, though. It's in the PRO version of the
software.

Cheers,
David
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g-woolf@sky.com
 

HI David

I have a Pro version and can confirm that it doesnt work

I cant find any FY-2H or FY-2G raw data , only GOMS

Kind Regards

Graham

On Wednesday, 7 September 2022 at 09:46:00 UTC, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 via groups.io <david-taylor@...> wrote:


On 06/09/2022 16:44, fvalk@... wrote:
> David,
>
> The MSG Data Manager has the option to save the raw data for use in e.g.
> another program environment. This has always worked well for all sorts of data
> but now that I’m trying to re-use the raw data of Feng Yun 2 G&H, I can’t find
> it anywhere. The GOMS data, that comes in over the same E1B-TPG-1 is saved in
> my Raw-destination but the FY data not. On the FSD Channel Selection page I do
> see a specific “keep raw data” setting for Goms, but the CMA data lacks this
> specificity.
>
> Am I doing something wrong from my side or is this the way it presently works.
>
> If the latter is the case, would it be possible to extend the saving to FY data
> as well?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ferdinand

Ferdinand,

On that page, there should be a group named "Ch.12 data (CMA)".  at the bottom
of that group there is a checkbox "Save raw image count".  Does that do what
you want?  I've not tested it recently, though.  It's in the PRO version of the
software.

Cheers,
David
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fvalk@...
 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, 07 September, 2022 09:46
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Data Manager and FY

On 06/09/2022 16:44, fvalk@... wrote:
David,

The MSG Data Manager has the option to save the raw data for use in e.g.
another program environment. This has always worked well for all sorts
of data but now that I’m trying to re-use the raw data of Feng Yun 2
G&H, I can’t find it anywhere. The GOMS data, that comes in over the
same E1B-TPG-1 is saved in my Raw-destination but the FY data not. On
the FSD Channel Selection page I do see a specific “keep raw data”
setting for Goms, but the CMA data lacks this specificity.

Am I doing something wrong from my side or is this the way it presently
works.

If the latter is the case, would it be possible to extend the saving
to FY data as well?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Ferdinand
Ferdinand,

On that page, there should be a group named "Ch.12 data (CMA)". at the
bottom of that group there is a checkbox "Save raw image count". Does that
do what you want? I've not tested it recently, though. It's in the PRO version
of the software.

Cheers,
David
--
==============================
David,

Yes, I have that checkbox and I have it active, but nothing of the CMA bulk is being saved in raw.
I'm running MDM V3.121.1337.
Does having that checkbox available confirm that I'm still using the pro version?

Cheers,
Ferdinand


David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 07/09/2022 11:26, fvalk@... wrote:
David,

Yes, I have that checkbox and I have it active, but nothing of the CMA bulk is being saved in raw.
I'm running MDM V3.121.1337.
Does having that checkbox available confirm that I'm still using the pro version?

Cheers,
Ferdinand
Thanks Ferdinand and Graham.

Yes, it's not visible (or active) otherwise.
I'll investigate further.

Cheers,
David
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David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 07/09/2022 11:26, fvalk@... wrote:
David,

Yes, I have that checkbox and I have it active, but nothing of the CMA bulk is being saved in raw.
I'm running MDM V3.121.1337.
Does having that checkbox available confirm that I'm still using the pro version?

Cheers,
Ferdinand
Ferdinand, Graham,

Yes, that checkbox isn't present in the standard version, and that version only
has four "Detailed Images" tabs.

I've just checked with the current beta .1337, with current FY2G data (and
historic data) and it behaves correctly, saving both images and source .GZ
files to the \Images\FSD\yyyy\mm\dd\ directory. Perhaps you were expecting a
different directory? Perhaps you might check there?

One difference might be that I still use the older directory names - my system
passes data thus:

[channel]
name=E1B-TPG-1
target_directory=Z:\EUMETCast\received\bas\EUMETSAT_Data_Channel_12

but I don't think that should make any difference.

Cheers,
David
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g-woolf@sky.com
 

Hi David

I dont have that directory

This is my setup - see screenshots

I dont see any FY2G/H data

Kind Regards

Graham



On Wednesday, 7 September 2022 at 14:59:13 UTC, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 via groups.io <david-taylor@...> wrote:


On 07/09/2022 11:26, fvalk@... wrote:
> David,
>
> Yes, I have that checkbox and I have it active, but nothing of the CMA bulk is being saved in raw.
> I'm running MDM V3.121.1337.
> Does having that checkbox available confirm that I'm still using the pro version?
>
> Cheers,
> Ferdinand

Ferdinand, Graham,

Yes, that checkbox isn't present in the standard version, and that version only
has four "Detailed Images" tabs.

I've just checked with the current beta .1337, with current FY2G data (and
historic data) and it behaves correctly, saving both images and source .GZ
files to the \Images\FSD\yyyy\mm\dd\ directory.  Perhaps you were expecting a
different directory?  Perhaps you might check there?

One difference might be that I still use the older directory names - my system
passes data thus:

  [channel]
  name=E1B-TPG-1
  target_directory=Z:\EUMETCast\received\bas\EUMETSAT_Data_Channel_12

but I don't think that should make any difference.

Cheers,
David
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David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 07/09/2022 16:06, g-woolf@... via groups.io wrote:
Hi David

I dont have that directory

This is my setup - see screenshots

I dont see any FY2G/H data

Kind Regards

Graham
Graham,

Look in the directory where the FY2G images are stored to see the raw data.

Cheers,
David
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g-woolf@sky.com
 

Hi David

I have done a search of all my data and cant find any files

Can you post an example file name

Kind Regards

Graham

On Wednesday, 7 September 2022 at 15:20:29 UTC, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 via groups.io <david-taylor@...> wrote:


On 07/09/2022 16:06, g-woolf@... via groups.io wrote:
> Hi David
>
> I dont have that directory
>
> This is my setup - see screenshots
>
> I dont see any FY2G/H data
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Graham

Graham,

Look in the directory where the FY2G images are stored to see the raw data.

Cheers,
David
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David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 07/09/2022 17:07, g-woolf@... via groups.io wrote:
Hi David

I have done a search of all my data and cant find any files

Can you post an example file name

Kind Regards

Graham
This from testing today - both image and raw data in the same directory:

202209071400-fy2c-IR1.png
202209071400-fy2c-IR2.png
202209071400-fy2c-IR4.png
202209071400-fy2c-Vis1km.png
Z_SATE_C_BABJ_20220907140000_O_FY2G_FDI_IR1_001_NOM.HDF.gz
Z_SATE_C_BABJ_20220907140000_O_FY2G_FDI_IR2_001_NOM.HDF.gz
Z_SATE_C_BABJ_20220907140000_O_FY2G_FDI_IR4_001_NOM.HDF.gz
Z_SATE_C_BABJ_20220907140000_O_FY2G_FDI_VIS1KM_001_NOM.HDF.gz

I'm really puzzled by this!

Cheers,
David
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fvalk@...
 

-----Original Message-----
From: MSG-1@groups.io On Behalf Of David J Taylor
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Sent: Wednesday, 07 September, 2022 17:52
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Data Manager and FY

On 07/09/2022 17:07, g-woolf@... via groups.io wrote:
Hi David

I have done a search of all my data and cant find any files

Can you post an example file name

Kind Regards

Graham
This from testing today - both image and raw data in the same directory:

202209071400-fy2c-IR1.png
202209071400-fy2c-IR2.png
202209071400-fy2c-IR4.png
202209071400-fy2c-Vis1km.png
Z_SATE_C_BABJ_20220907140000_O_FY2G_FDI_IR1_001_NOM.HDF.gz
Z_SATE_C_BABJ_20220907140000_O_FY2G_FDI_IR2_001_NOM.HDF.gz
Z_SATE_C_BABJ_20220907140000_O_FY2G_FDI_IR4_001_NOM.HDF.gz
Z_SATE_C_BABJ_20220907140000_O_FY2G_FDI_VIS1KM_001_NOM.HDF.gz

I'm really puzzled by this!

Cheers,
David
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======================
David,

Sorry for my delayed response. I have been away from my desk until late and only now saw the messages. I can confirm that indeed the Z_SATE_C_BABJ_xxx....xx_O_FY2H_FDI_IR4_001_NOM.HDF files are present in the image directory (unzipped, as I had that checkbox marked).

This solves my puzzle and clarifies why I couldn't find them. For consistency purposes it would be very helpful if the data could be allotted to the Raw Data tree where all else is being directed and which resides (in my case) on a different drive than the images. But only if that doesn't signify extensive additional work for you.

Cheers,
Ferdinand


David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 07/09/2022 22:14, fvalk@... wrote:
David,

Sorry for my delayed response. I have been away from my desk until late and only now saw the messages. I can confirm that indeed the Z_SATE_C_BABJ_xxx....xx_O_FY2H_FDI_IR4_001_NOM.HDF files are present in the image directory (unzipped, as I had that checkbox marked).

This solves my puzzle and clarifies why I couldn't find them. For consistency purposes it would be very helpful if the data could be allotted to the Raw Data tree where all else is being directed and which resides (in my case) on a different drive than the images. But only if that doesn't signify extensive additional work for you.

Cheers,
Ferdinand
Ferdinand,

That's excellent news! I hope that Graham has a similar success.

Noted on the Raw Data directory. No sure why that's not being used but I can
chase that. Would you expect all files to be dumped together, or placed in a
yyyy-mm-dd directory tree structure. I'm unsure what the default is for other
data.

Cheers,
David
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fvalk@...
 

-----Original Message-----
From: MSG-1@groups.io On Behalf Of David J Taylor
GM8ARV ?????????????? ???? via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 08 September, 2022 06:16
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Data Manager and FY

On 07/09/2022 22:14, fvalk@... wrote:
David,

Sorry for my delayed response. I have been away from my desk until late
and only now saw the messages. I can confirm that indeed the
Z_SATE_C_BABJ_xxx....xx_O_FY2H_FDI_IR4_001_NOM.HDF files are present
in the image directory (unzipped, as I had that checkbox marked).

This solves my puzzle and clarifies why I couldn't find them. For consistency
purposes it would be very helpful if the data could be allotted to the Raw
Data tree where all else is being directed and which resides (in my case) on a
different drive than the images. But only if that doesn't signify extensive
additional work for you.

Cheers,
Ferdinand
Ferdinand,

That's excellent news! I hope that Graham has a similar success.

Noted on the Raw Data directory. No sure why that's not being used but I
can chase that. Would you expect all files to be dumped together, or placed
in a yyyy-mm-dd directory tree structure. I'm unsure what the default is for
other data.

Cheers,
David
==============================
David,

I currently have the raw data in bulk, without date structure and keep the data volume down by trimming daily. So, bulk is perfectly OK for me.

Thanks for looking into this.

Cheers,
Ferdinand


g-woolf@sky.com
 

Hi David


Yes it the same  for me too

I agree with Ferdinand -the Raw Data directory would be good for me too . It keeps things consistent

Currently the rest of the Raw Data is placed in a yyyy-mm-dd directory tree structure so if you could make it the same thats great

Kind Regards

Graham


On Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 06:16:15 UTC, David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 via groups.io <david-taylor@...> wrote:


On 07/09/2022 22:14, fvalk@... wrote:
> David,
>
> Sorry for my delayed response. I have been away from my desk until late and only now saw the messages. I can confirm that indeed the Z_SATE_C_BABJ_xxx....xx_O_FY2H_FDI_IR4_001_NOM.HDF files are present in the image directory (unzipped, as I had that checkbox marked).
>
> This solves my puzzle and clarifies why I couldn't find them. For consistency purposes it would be very helpful if the data could be allotted to the Raw Data tree where all else is being directed and which resides (in my case) on a different drive than the images. But only if that doesn't signify extensive additional work for you.
>
> Cheers,
> Ferdinand

Ferdinand,

That's excellent news!  I hope that Graham has a similar success.

Noted on the Raw Data directory.  No sure why that's not being used but I can
chase that.  Would you expect all files to be dumped together, or placed in a
yyyy-mm-dd directory tree structure.  I'm unsure what the default is for other
data.

Cheers,
David
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Twitter: @gm8arv







fvalk@...
 

//snip

==============================
David,

I currently have the raw data in bulk, without date structure and keep the
data volume down by trimming daily. So, bulk is perfectly OK for me.

Thanks for looking into this.

Cheers,
Ferdinand
===============================
Just to add: as far as I know, the raw saving follows the general 'file options' setting on the Options page of the settings.
'Dates in folders' applies to both image and raw.


David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Ferdinand, Graham,

There's a beta 1338 just uploaded.

https://www.satsignal.eu/software/beta.htm

This saves the data - as received - in the Raw Data directory, and does not
save in the Image tree. The change means that the option to save the
uncompressed data cannot be honoured as, just like other data, this is simply a
direct copy of the source.

I don't know whether there will be any implications for the CMA meteorological
data.

On my system the raw data is in a yyyy\mm\dd directory tree.

Please test and report.

Thanks,
David
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fvalk@...
 

-----Original Message-----
From: MSG-1@groups.io On Behalf Of David J Taylor
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Sent: Thursday, 08 September, 2022 09:43
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Data Manager and FY

Ferdinand, Graham,

There's a beta 1338 just uploaded.

https://www.satsignal.eu/software/beta.htm

This saves the data - as received - in the Raw Data directory, and does not
save in the Image tree. The change means that the option to save the
uncompressed data cannot be honoured as, just like other data, this is simply
a direct copy of the source.

I don't know whether there will be any implications for the CMA
meteorological data.

On my system the raw data is in a yyyy\mm\dd directory tree.

Please test and report.

Thanks,
David
===================
David,

Downloaded and implemented. The data comes in into the RawData directory just as you described. This is valid both for bulk configuration and for yyyy\mm\dd directory tree. I have not seen anything odd in the CMA meteorological data thus far.

Thanks for accommodating my request.

Cheers,
Ferdinand


fvalk@...
 

-----Original Message-----
From: MSG-1@groups.io On Behalf Of David J Taylor
GM8ARV ?????????????? ???? via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 08 September, 2022 09:43
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Data Manager and FY

Ferdinand, Graham,

There's a beta 1338 just uploaded.

https://www.satsignal.eu/software/beta.htm

This saves the data - as received - in the Raw Data directory, and does not
save in the Image tree. The change means that the option to save the
uncompressed data cannot be honoured as, just like other data, this is simply
a direct copy of the source.

I don't know whether there will be any implications for the CMA
meteorological data.

On my system the raw data is in a yyyy\mm\dd directory tree.

Please test and report.

Thanks,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: https://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv
=================================

David,

Just to confirm. The changes in the MSG Data Manager did not influence the CMA meteorological data saving behaviour. Version 1338 works well for both the new raw data saving location and the old CMA met data.

Cheers,
Ferdinand


David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 09/09/2022 07:09, fvalk@... wrote:
David,

Just to confirm. The changes in the MSG Data Manager did not influence the CMA meteorological data saving behaviour. Version 1338 works well for both the new raw data saving location and the old CMA met data.

Cheers,
Ferdinand
Thanks for letting me know, Ferdinand.
Glad it's working.

Cheers,
David
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