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Red T (So what's New?)

Ken Barker
 

I am trying to install the EUMETcast files v5.5 onto a new PC. This is a job that I have done several times previously. I am installing onto XP SP3.
The EKU files are loaded and checked. The DVB files are loaded and Setup4PC is seeing Eurobird. The PCI TV2 card is installed and working according to Device Manager.

But I have a Red T. I uninstalled ZA with no effect. Windows firewall is off. I have not touched the default Recv settings.

I had a look at HTML Shell>Licence and found TELECAST Server Licence 'not yet received'.
I then ran ipconfig/all in case there is an IP problem but I am not sure of the correct parameters or how to change them.

Any help will be much appreciated
Thanks, Ken.

re Red T (So what's New?)

duncan
 

Hi Ken to check if the ip address is the same on t systems and your network connection go to,start/settings/network connections and right click on TechniSat dvb/properties/then internet protacol.double click and see the ip address mine is 192.168.238.231 with subnet at 255.255.255.0. Then go to your recv.ini and look to see if they match if not change them so they do i changed mine to the setting 231 at the end as i had many instances in device manager of instalations that i had conflictions but now all works well. I hope this helps Regards Duncan

Re: re Red T (So what's New?)

Ken Barker
 

Duncan. Many thanks.
I found the Recv interface address to be 192.168.238.238. The dvb TCP/IP was set to 'Obtain Automatically' so I set it to the Recv address and MAGIC, now the tc-recv is the working colour.

Your 'halo' should now be glowing and you are entitled to walk around for the rest of the day with a smile on your face.

Best regards, Ken

On 18/02/2011 15:24, duncan wrote:
Hi Ken to check if the ip address is the same on t systems and your network connection go
to,start/settings/network connections and right click on TechniSat dvb/properties/then
internet protacol.double click and see the ip address mine is 192.168.238.231 with subnet
at 255.255.255.0. Then go to your recv.ini and look to see if they match if not change
them so they do i changed mine to the setting 231 at the end as i had many instances in
device manager of instalations that i had conflictions but now all works well. I hope this
helps Regards Duncan

Re: New to Metop

Alan Sewards
 

Geoffrey,
In case you are still having problems, I have put together a brief sequence of steps to follow to add Metop to an already existing MSG receiving system. You will find it below, if it is unclear don't hesitate to ask for clarification.
Regarding your point about the computer, I don't think you need worry. My one-computer system is an old Sempron 3000 with 1GB RAM running Windows XP Pro and has been running with reboots and cleanouts for four years every day and night, except for short breaks. I receive MSG HRIT, FSD, and RSS to produce images for running with Animator, my main visual tool, run on another computer. I also run Metop Manager and AVHRR Manager on the same Sempron computer, to get the GAC, METOP and AVHRR imagery, which I manually select for special investigations. There is an 80 GB HD for programs and usual stuff, and a 500 GB HD for imagery. There is a 127 MB RAMdisk.

Receiving EUMETCAST METOP

1. Arrange with EUMETSAT to receive the data (visit the portal)

2. I assume you already have reception of MSG-2 and are getting the HRIT/FSD data using a receiver setup with an aerial pointed at the satellite at 9 degrees East (Eurobird 9) on the channel 'Media Broadcast'. Verify that this is correct.

3. If not already set, add the PID 510 (decimal) in the Data Services.

4. Edit recv-channels.ini to receive the METOP data stream by adding as follows:
--------------------------------------------------
#METOP AVHRR data channel
[EPS-10]
target_directory=C:\received\EPS-10
#use the path and directory name you have chosen for this data, and #create the directory
--------------------------------------------------

5. Install METOP Manager. When it is installed, set it up:
Under Setup, select the tabs File Controls; Global EPS METOP Data; AVHRR, and fill in the boxes for 'Tellicast METOP AVHRR global received files path' using the 'Browse' button to find and click on the directory you created in step 4; and 'Combined files path' which you will need if you want to use HRPT Reader to look at combined files. Also fill in the box 'EPS Global Files path', which can be anywhere but is usually put in a separate directory called 'EPS-Global' in the Images tree where the MSG Image data is stored.

6. As soon as you edit recv-channels.ini and save it, the Tellicast software will start to put data in the received folder specified in 4 above as the target_directory. You can look at this folder with the Windows Explorer and can see the files accumulating. They will not start to disappear until step 5 above is completed and Metop Manager is running, when it will access the data accumulating in the received folder and process it, deleting it from the received folder as it does so.

Good luck!

Best regards - Alan S

On 17/02/2011 7:03 PM, Geoffrey Gee wrote:
Ian
Thanks again............ It has occurred to me that I may be tackling
this project in the wrong way. I had thought that I could trial Metop on
the same computer that I been running MSG DM etc before I had to
upgrade/replace it & register the programme. The existing computer is
not really man enough for the job although it is used for nothing else (
I have laptop for personal computing ). I had hoped to at least run a trial.

Dell Dimension 2400 Pentium 4 . 2 Gb Ram. 80 Gb hard drive whiich is
less than half used.

Am I wasting our time ?

Regards ..................Geofffrey


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Re: New to Metop

geoffreygee90
 

Ian

We have success..............the final trouble was in the basic settings in the Set Up as you indicated. Many thanks.

Data coming in Ok and I have left Metop Manager and MSG-DM running since this morning and all seems well. I have just run my usual evening animated GSS for today imposed on the MSLP from Bracknell with no problems.
NowI have got to learn what to do with all this new data and how to relate it to HRPT Reader.

Again many thanks.............Regards.........Geoffrey

Re: New to Metop

geoffreygee90
 

Alan

How very kind of you to prepare an easily understood set of instructions for adding Metop to my system they would have saved me a great deal of frustration for a rather ancient and not very computer literate weather watcher.

Many thanks..............regards.....................Geoffrey

re re Re: re Red T (So what's New?)

duncan
 

Great news Ken glad i could help . the wife likes the halo ha ha Regards Duncan

Re: re Red T (So what's New?)

David J Taylor
 

Duncan. Many thanks.
I found the Recv interface address to be 192.168.238.238. The dvb TCP/IP was set to
'Obtain Automatically' so I set it to the Recv address and MAGIC, now the tc-recv is the
working colour.

Your 'halo' should now be glowing and you are entitled to walk around for the rest of the
day with a smile on your face.

Best regards, Ken
Good to hear that's working, Ken. I thought I had documented it fairly well here, though:

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/ip-address.html

Cheers,
David
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Re: New to Metop

David J Taylor
 

Geoffrey,
In case you are still having problems, I have put together a brief
sequence of steps to follow to add Metop to an already existing MSG
receiving system. You will find it below, if it is unclear don't
hesitate to ask for clarification.
[]

Good luck!

Best regards - Alan S
Alan,

That's most helpful - I hope you won't mind me putting on the Metop Manager Web page:

http://www.satsignal.eu/software/metop_manager.htm#quickstart

Cheeers,
David
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Re: New to Metop

Alan Sewards
 

David,
No problem. I am honoured to be in such company!

Best regards - Alan

On 19/02/2011 8:30 AM, David J Taylor wrote:
Geoffrey,
In case you are still having problems, I have put together a brief
sequence of steps to follow to add Metop to an already existing MSG
receiving system. You will find it below, if it is unclear don't
hesitate to ask for clarification.
[]

Good luck!

Best regards - Alan S
Alan,

That's most helpful - I hope you won't mind me putting on the Metop
Manager Web page:

http://www.satsignal.eu/software/metop_manager.htm#quickstart

Cheeers,
David
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New to Metop

geoffreygee90
 

Ian

Our success did not last long. I received data for two half days with missing chunks. As suggested by you I have set up a RAMdisk using Arnes instructions in his article in GEO N0 6. The result I regret to say was that I now get no Metop data.

Any suggestions please.

Regards.......Geoffrey

Re: New to Metop

Alan Sewards
 

Geoffrey,
Did you remember to change the file_database_directory in recv.ini to the path produced by your RAMdisk? In my case the RAMdisk is B: and the line in recv.ini is:
file_database_directory=B:\receiving

Best regards - Alan S

On 21/02/2011 4:05 PM, Geoffrey Gee wrote:
Ian

Our success did not last long. I received data for two half days with
missing chunks. As suggested by you I have set up a RAMdisk using Arnes
instructions in his article in GEO N0 6. The result I regret to say was
that
I now get no Metop data.

Any suggestions please.

Regards.......Geoffrey

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Re: New to Metop

James Brown
 

In message <5E5D759AE4164FB3A805A6F459F7F6E7@NEWDELL>, Geoffrey Gee <geogee@...> writes
Ian

Our success did not last long. I received data for two half days with
missing chunks. As suggested by you I have set up a RAMdisk using Arnes
instructions in his article in GEO N0 6. The result I regret to say was that
I now get no Metop data.

Any suggestions please.

Regards.......Geoffrey
Hello Geoffrey,

Before Ian responds could I suggest that you indicate how you have implemented the ram drive - i.e. what letter you have assigned to it, and what size it is.

Then could you show how you have changed your recv.ini to point to the ram drive.

Also what did you put on the ram drive - was it just a tmp file - or did you add other directories?

Finally are there files building up in the ram drive - how full is it?

That will help Ian and others to assist.

Cheers

James
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METOP

e.macgurk@...
 

Hi all.

I have been reading with interest all the posts regarding METOP,to be fair iv only just downloaded and had a go 2 or 3 times, on all occasions the problem iv had is when i check the log file in the telicast shell it reads " the date and time followed by a number then message lost (lost message)" in active channels the anouncement channel and ESP 10 are green and connected.
i do use the same PC for MSG data managar with great success, but i dont run the 2 at the same time, i have been switching off data channel 2 and 3 used for MSG, then activating ESP 10, as mentiond the channel is connecting but all i am getting is hours worth of lost messages, i have not gone down the route of using a RAM disc, but this is my next challenge.
please could i have any thoughts with the issue of constant lost messages when using METOP data channels.

Thankyou.

Eric.

Re: METOP

David J Taylor
 

Hi all.

I have been reading with interest all the posts regarding METOP,to be fair iv only just downloaded and had a go 2 or 3 times, on all occasions the problem iv had is when i check the log file in the telicast shell it reads " the date and time followed by a number then message lost (lost message)" in active channels the anouncement channel and ESP 10 are green and connected.
i do use the same PC for MSG data managar with great success, but i dont run the 2 at the same time, i have been switching off data channel 2 and 3 used for MSG, then activating ESP 10, as mentiond the channel is connecting but all i am getting is hours worth of lost messages, i have not gone down the route of using a RAM disc, but this is my next challenge.
please could i have any thoughts with the issue of constant lost messages when using METOP data channels.

Thankyou.

Eric.
Eric,

A RAMdisk is essential with the TelliCast 2.4.4 client for receiving both Metop and other data, and I have written some suggestions here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/RAMdisk.html

There are a number of excellent, free programs available. I would normally recommend a 300MB RAMdisk.

I have a couple of systems here which, on a single PC, both receive and process Meteosat-9, EARS AVHRR and Metop AVHRR data, essentially without loss. One is an AMD system with an AMD-64 X2 4400 processor, Windows Vista-32, and 2GB of memory (also running SBS Virtual Radar and Plane Plotter), and the other is a more recent system with an Intel i5-760 processor, Windows-7 64-bit, and 8GB of memory. As it happens, both those systems are running an unreleased TelliCast 2.5.17 client, and are working without a RAMdisk, and with USB receiver boxes (Dexatek on the AMD and DVB World on the Intel, in case it matters).

So although EUMETSAT and I both recommend a two-PC setup (the receiver PC can be a lower-powered Intel Atom box running 24 x 7) a well setup up, single PC with a multi-core processor and 2GB+ memory can likely do the job you need.

Cheers,
David
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Re: New to Metop

Ian Deans
 

Hello Geoffrey.

Just got your mail very late last night as I was away most of the day yesterday. I will get back to you later today as I will be away from the computer until the afternoon.

I will also need to think back a little as I have not used a RAMdisk now for about 6 months as I am running a new ( and not to be released ) version of Tellicast 2.5.17 which does not require a RAMdisk.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 3:05 PM
To: MSG1 Yahoo Group
Subject: [MSG-1] New to Metop

Ian

Our success did not last long. I received data for two half days with
missing chunks. As suggested by you I have set up a RAMdisk using Arnes
instructions in his article in GEO N0 6. The result I regret to say was that
I now get no Metop data.

Any suggestions please.

Regards.......Geoffrey

Re: New to Metop

geoffreygee90
 

Ian
Thanks for your quick reply. If you are having to " think a bit ". Have you seen David's mail this morning in answer to another Metop query.
I do not know if it is relevant to my problem having tried to use Arksoft.

Regards.....Geoffrey

Re: New to Metop

Alan Sewards
 

Geoffrey,
I use the QSoft RAMdisk (v.5210) software and it has worked flawlessly for me for number of years. It is set to give me a 128 MB RAMdisk, which has proven adequate for the data I take.

I can give you more details on how to install it if you wish.

Best regards - Alan S

On 22/02/2011 11:13 AM, Geoffrey Gee wrote:
Ian
Thanks for your quick reply. If you are having to " think a bit ". Have you
seen David's mail this morning in answer to another Metop query.
I do not know if it is relevant to my problem having tried to use Arksoft.

Regards.....Geoffrey



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Re: New to Metop

geoffreygee90
 

Alan

Thank you for your mail. I will be very pleased to take up your offer on how to install QSOFT.

Regards.........Geoffrey

Re: New to Metop

Alan Sewards
 

Geoffrey,
The best place to start is to Google 'QSOFT RAMdisk 5210' Which will return a lot of sites dealing with this software. The 5210 refers to the version which is the free one that I use. There is a version Enterprise or 5318 which requires a payment of about $10 via Paypal. I suggest you stay with the old (standard) version for now.

Useful links are:
Free version of software:
<http://members.fortunecity.com/ramdisk/RAMDisk/ramdiskfree.htm>
useful info:
<http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/05/27/free-ramdisk-for-windows-vista-xp-2000-and-2003-server/>
More info on the Enterprise version and installation instructions:
<http://members.fortunecity.com/ramdisk/RAMDisk/ramdiskent.htm>

After installing the software, you set it up by going into Device Manager and selecting RAMdisk, where you can set the Drive letter, drive size and other parameters (I use B:, 128MB, FAT and the defaults).

I hope I have given you enough information to get started with the RAMdisk. If you choose drive letter B:, don't forget to put this in recv.ini: file_database_directory=B:&#92;receiving in the [locations] section together with file_database_size=118000000 in the [parameters] section at the end.

Good luck - Alan S

On 22/02/2011 5:33 PM, Geoffrey Gee wrote:
Alan

Thank you for your mail. I will be very pleased to take up your offer on how
to install QSOFT.

Regards.........Geoffrey



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