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Re: stored data

David J Taylor
 

--- In MSG-1@..., Robert Moore <rsmoore@l...> wrote:
David, would I be able to recover temperature data from Ch09 saved
as jpeg?

Robert
To a good approximation, yes. The file should be calibrated
correctly for GeoSatSignal - I'll send you the mid-day image to test.

Cheers,
David

Re: New file uploaded to MSG-1

David J Taylor
 


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Regards,

Re: stored data

Alan Sewards <alan.sewards@...>
 

Robert,
I have .jpg files of channels 1,2,3,4,6,9,12,12n from 1330 UTC onwards
until 1715 when it is only channels 4,6 and 9. Let me know what you want and
I'll see if I can burn a CDROM, unless you get a better offer who can
transfer with broadband.

Best regards - Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Moore" <rsmoore@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:01 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] stored data


Dear All - have any of you, by any chance, an archive of the HRV or other
imagery for November 23rd, ideally from 0930 to dusk? Any data from this
period would be most welcome.

Robert



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Re: stored data

Robert Moore
 

Alan - thanks, if you are on broadband could you send me Ch 12n 1400 - 1700, on
each hour? David has supplied Ch 09 for those time already. If you don't have
broadband I can send you my postal address for a CD. Great, thanks again.

Robert


Quoting Alan Sewards <alan.sewards@...>:

Robert,
I have .jpg files of channels 1,2,3,4,6,9,12,12n from 1330 UTC onwards
until 1715 when it is only channels 4,6 and 9. Let me know what you want and
I'll see if I can burn a CDROM, unless you get a better offer who can
transfer with broadband.

Best regards - Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Moore" <rsmoore@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:01 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] stored data


Dear All - have any of you, by any chance, an archive of the HRV or other
imagery for November 23rd, ideally from 0930 to dusk? Any data from this
period would be most welcome.

Robert



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archive?

Robert Moore
 

Dear All, the sheer volume of MSG-1 will raise archiving problems, especially
for those who may discover they need to go back to earlier data. I don't know
EUMETSAT's policy on archiving. I have written a short note on the problem
which I will submit to RIG journal.
Robert

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Mini scans animation

James Brown
 

Just to say a huge thanks to David for the latest version of GSS - not sure if this note belongs here or in geosatsignal.

I was so glad I had saved a morning of the 5 minute mini-scans. Awesome is about the only word I can use to describe the feeling I had when I looked at the clouds lazily building and moving across the African interior. In a way it was quite an emotional moment to look at the beauty of our planet in such detail and with such frequent frame updates.

It shows again what amazing possibilities MSG-1 is capable of, and thanks to EUMETSAT for the trial.

James
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Meteosat-5 IODC errors

David J Taylor
 

Folks,

I am seeing three lots of errors on Meteosat-5 (Indian Ocean)
segments. These have been reported informally to Eumetsat but are
still outstanding. These problems are:

1 - Prolog sometimes coming after the first data segment. The
prolog carries the thermal calibration information.

2 - Last segment arrives before other segments, causing a temporary
save of an incomplete image.

3 - Visible channel segments 2 or 3 are sometimes missing, for
example from yesterday's report:

Missing segments report, 2003 Dec 13
Cycle: 0300 met5-vis seg 2
Cycle: 1200 met5-vis seg 3
Cycle: 1500 met5-vis seg 2 3

As long as the calibration is stable, (1) is not a problem.
(2) is an incovenience as it can take up to three hours for the MSG
Data Manager to recover from the problem and save the complete image
(when the next scan arrives). (3) is a new problem that I have only
noticed in the last couple of days. I am seeing it on two PCs, so I
am guessing that it is systematic rather than chance, but it would
be useful to have confirmation from other people as well.

Cheers,
David

Re: Meteosat-5 IODC errors

John Thexton <john@...>
 

David
Just the same here.

John

----- Original Message -----
From: David Taylor
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:58 AM
Subject: [MSG-1] Meteosat-5 IODC errors


Folks,

I am seeing three lots of errors on Meteosat-5 (Indian Ocean)
segments. These have been reported informally to Eumetsat but are
still outstanding. These problems are:

1 - Prolog sometimes coming after the first data segment. The
prolog carries the thermal calibration information.

2 - Last segment arrives before other segments, causing a temporary
save of an incomplete image.

3 - Visible channel segments 2 or 3 are sometimes missing, for
example from yesterday's report:

Missing segments report, 2003 Dec 13
Cycle: 0300 met5-vis seg 2
Cycle: 1200 met5-vis seg 3
Cycle: 1500 met5-vis seg 2 3

As long as the calibration is stable, (1) is not a problem.
(2) is an incovenience as it can take up to three hours for the MSG
Data Manager to recover from the problem and save the complete image
(when the next scan arrives). (3) is a new problem that I have only
noticed in the last couple of days. I am seeing it on two PCs, so I
am guessing that it is systematic rather than chance, but it would
be useful to have confirmation from other people as well.

Cheers,
David


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MSG-1 on a laptop?

Nigel Heasman <nigel_heasman@...>
 

Hi all,
Has anyone got reception of MSG-1 working on a laptop and, if so,
what hardware are they using?
regards
nigel heasman

Re: MSG-1 on a laptop?

David J Taylor
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "Nigel Heasman" <nigel_heasman@y...>
wrote:
Hi all,
Has anyone got reception of MSG-1 working on a laptop and, if so,
what hardware are they using?
regards
nigel heasman
I believe "Yes", with the USB adaptor. I don't know if Eumetsat
officially support this route, though.

David

Re: MSG-1 on a laptop?

Timestep <Information@...>
 

From: Dave Cawley
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Tel. +44 (0)1803 833366
Fax. +44 (0)1803 839498

The USB version is fine. And I know it's a plug, but you did ask, it's on
my website.

Dave

LICENSE REQUIRED

barryday@...
 

Good morning David, A while ago we spoke of a 1 month license for MSG
Manager and GEOSATSIGNAL , I have not got the data flowing and getting pics
of which Iam looking at them useing ACDC and PAINT SHOP PRO.
Would you be so good as to grant me a license to try out your progs.
Many thanks
Barry G3WIS QTHR

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Re: newbie setting up for MSG

johnrigsec@...
 

David,

Thanks very much for your suggestions to my questions 'what do I need to do
what?'

It just seemed to me that there are many variations as to what is being used
currently for reception of MSG EUMETCast data.
Some are running 'high spec - do it all' systems some are fairly basic and as
you
and Arne have shown recently you can, given limitations, run a fairly
basically
specified system and get 'satisfactory' results.

It seemed to me to be useful to try to define a specification for a
'preferred' system.
I thought my survey would have given some pointers but I think it threw up so
many
variations that one couldn't see the wood for the trees.

Your system thoughts have made things clearer.

Regards,
John.

Re: newbie setting up for MSG

johnrigsec@...
 

In a message dated 11-12-03 15:03:42 GMT Standard Time,
rsmoore@... writes:

Agree. Our collective experience seems to be that the two-PC approach is
best by
far, but one will work OK, though the lower spec the less can be done with
other memory-hungry programs without interfering with MSG-1 data.
Once anyone gets hooked I guess they will be saving hard for that second PC
(or,
I suppose, giving up all other activities on the one PC!).
Robert
Robert,

Thanks for your comments also.

Regards,
John.

Re: newbie setting up for MSG

David J Taylor
 

Your system thoughts have made things clearer.

Regards,
John.
John,

I'm glad that helped. I suggest we publish those thoughts for
people just starting - someone will be in touch asking for your
permission.

Cheers,
David

Re: LICENSE REQUIRED

David J Taylor
 

--- In MSG-1@..., <barryday@t...> wrote:
Good morning David, A while ago we spoke of a 1 month license for
MSG Manager and GEOSATSIGNAL , I have not got the data flowing and
getting pics of which Iam looking at them useing ACDC and PAINT SHOP
PRO.
Would you be so good as to grant me a license to try out your
progs.
Many thanks
Barry G3WIS QTHR
Barry,

I have arranged for you to receive trial licences for the MSG Data
Manager, GeoSatSignal and the MSG Animator.

I would prefer if future requests like this were made directly to me
in an e-mail rather than on these lists.

Cheers,
David
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Re: Meteosat-5 IODC errors

David J Taylor
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "John Thexton" <john@j...> wrote:
David
Just the same here.

John
John,

Many thanks for that confirmation. Let's hope Eumetsat sort this
out, as the IODC images are of quite excellent quality.

Cheers,
David

Re: newbie setting up for MSG

johnrigsec@...
 

In a message dated 12-12-03 11:37:43 GMT Standard Time,
douglas@... writes:

Yes I could not agree more. My own 'main' computer has just failed
(probably motherboard) and I am now using a single lesser spec.computer.
It can deal with everything but not simultaneously without virtually
grinding to a halt.
It is the small but accumulative things that matter. Hard drive no longer
7200, memory not DDR, memory only 512MB not 1024Mb, processor now 1200 not
2000...all take a toll.
Strangely segment loss does not seem to be an issue, although I do not take
everything and until my 'main' computer is repaired I am taking it easy...
no HRV animations in GSS 4 etc.!
Does still surprise me what is possible with a bit of careful use, so for
those holding back have a go and still enjoy the hobby with a little
computer management.

Regards
Douglas.
Douglas,

Thanks for yet more useful comments regarding computer specs for MSG.
Especially your last sentence - that should encourage some to 'put a toe in.'

Perhaps some have been put off with the initial considered requirements for a
system.
'Horses for courses?'
Or, is that oversimplifying the situation?

Regards,
John.

Re: Meteosat-5 IODC errors

Robert Moore
 

David, my Meteosat-5 images are pretty messed up too (sorry for the technical
jargon)

Robert



Quoting David Taylor <david-taylor@...>:

Folks,

I am seeing three lots of errors on Meteosat-5 (Indian Ocean)
segments. These have been reported informally to Eumetsat but are
still outstanding. These problems are:

1 - Prolog sometimes coming after the first data segment. The
prolog carries the thermal calibration information.

2 - Last segment arrives before other segments, causing a temporary
save of an incomplete image.

3 - Visible channel segments 2 or 3 are sometimes missing, for
example from yesterday's report:

Missing segments report, 2003 Dec 13
Cycle: 0300 met5-vis seg 2
Cycle: 1200 met5-vis seg 3
Cycle: 1500 met5-vis seg 2 3

As long as the calibration is stable, (1) is not a problem.
(2) is an incovenience as it can take up to three hours for the MSG
Data Manager to recover from the problem and save the complete image
(when the next scan arrives). (3) is a new problem that I have only
noticed in the last couple of days. I am seeing it on two PCs, so I
am guessing that it is systematic rather than chance, but it would
be useful to have confirmation from other people as well.

Cheers,
David



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and Social Work Studies
The University of Liverpool
Eleanor Rathbone Building
Bedford Street South
Liverpool
L69 7ZA

tel and fax: 44 (0) 1352 714456

Re: MSG-1 on a laptop?

Nigel Heasman <nigel_heasman@...>
 

I believe "Yes", with the USB adaptor. I don't know if Eumetsat
officially support this route, though.
David
---------------------------------------------
The USB version is fine. And I know it's a plug, but you did ask,
it's on my website.
Dave
---------------------------------------------
Many thanks, both
regards
Nigel