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Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

Trevor Smithers
 

The device we are now using for Windows-7 tests is this free RAMdisk:
http://www.cenatek.com/product_page_ramdisk_download_list.php
the one at the top "Dataram RAMDisk".
Thanks for the pointer David, downloaded a copy this morning and even though I'm using XPpro I
used your Vista setup instructions and so far its working without all the previous crashing.
The new DVBWorld box, Tellicast and MSG-DM appear to be stable now, so the acid test will be
when I switch on the system from cold in the morning :-)

Trevor


Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

Trevor Smithers
 

The original AR-soft RAMDisk drivers were removed through Device Manager (
there is an option to do this when disabling ) but I do see ramdisk.cpl in
Windows System 32 so I will rename it and see if the Control Panel entry
disappears.
During my AR-Soft problems I also found that if you reinstall the original setup file (just as if you
were setting it up for the first time) it gives an option to uninstall and it will remove the Control
Panel entry as well.

Trevor


Re: DVBWorld

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Robert Moore wrote:
Thanks David - you pointed me to my error; I had assumed that when I
installed software my ID and password were added to recv.ini in an
encrypted format. But an old backup file showed that I had to add ID
and password myself. Data now flowing OK (though not all of it yet!)
Robert
That's good, Robert. Quite why there has to be that confusion in the first place isn't quite clear to me, but, oh well!

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@writeme.com


Re: DVBWorld

Robert Moore
 

Thanks David - you pointed me to my error; I had assumed that when I installed software my ID and password were added to recv.ini in an encrypted format. But an old backup file showed that I had to add ID and password myself.
Data now flowing OK (though not all of it yet!)
Robert


Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

tsmithers@cix.co.uk wrote:
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Removed ramdisk again and DVB returned - Something somewhere
obviously doesn't like AR-soft. I think I need to look for an
alternative ramdisk software for XP pro.
[]
Trevor
Trevor,

On several systems I've tried, the AR Soft RAMdisk works perfectly with the DVB World software. Perhaps there is a new version of the DVB World software - check exactly which version you installed.

The device we are now using for Windows-7 tests is this free RAMdisk:

http://www.cenatek.com/product_page_ramdisk_download_list.php

the one at the top "Dataram RAMDisk".

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@writeme.com


Re: DVBWorld

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Robert Moore wrote:
Some clarity has emerged now John; I uninstalled and reinstalled
everything in the correct order. All the TP numbers sorted themselves
out and I am now on TP14.
Doh! I forgot that reinstalling would over-write the
recv-channels.ini file. Luckily I had an old backup so that file is
rewritten now and I have a pink T on white. But where are the data
going? Nothing in the folders designated by the *.ini file yet.
Tellicast says that the only active channel is the TSL announcement
channel. Also my RAMdisk is empty. Perhaps DVBworld has not found the
RAMdisk? Must be nearly there now, though.

Robert
Robert,

The RAMdisk has nothing to do with the DVB World software (or the SkyStar software), it is only needed for the TelliCast software.

Once you know the drive letter of your RAMdisk (check with Windows Explorer), you need to edit the recv.ini file accordingly. If you are getting no data, check your user ID and password. Check the TelliCast log file. Check that the eToken is working correctly.

Good luck.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@writeme.com


Re: DVBWorld

Robert Moore
 

Some clarity has emerged now John; I uninstalled and reinstalled everything in the correct order. All the TP numbers sorted themselves out and I am now on TP14.
Doh! I forgot that reinstalling would over-write the recv-channels.ini file. Luckily I had an old backup so that file is rewritten now and I have a pink T on white. But where are the data going? Nothing in the folders designated by the *.ini file yet. Tellicast says that the only active channel is the TSL announcement channel. Also my RAMdisk is empty. Perhaps DVBworld has not found the RAMdisk?
Must be nearly there now, though.

Robert


Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

Robert Moore
 

Thanks David and Ian.

Robert


Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

Trevor Smithers
 

Ian.

The AR-soft RAMDisk is listed in Device Manager,
Ah, so it is - didn't think of looking there.

should be able to disable and remove the driver through Device
Manager
Just done that and DVBWorld has returned.

Just to make sure I installed ramdisk again and the system immediately crashed again when
trying to start DVB. This time the crash screen stayed up long enough to actually see it.

"Bug code - USB -Driver"
"Stop" followed by a list of memory addresses
"Beginning dump of physical memory"

Removed ramdisk again and DVB returned - Something somewhere obviously doesn't like
AR-soft. I think I need to look for an alternative ramdisk software for XP pro.


Thanks for your help, much appreciated.

Trevor


Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Robert Moore wrote:
Apologies for butting in on this - does this mean I can dispense with
the RAMdisk when the DVB box is installed? Robert
No, the TelliCast software still benefits greatly from using a RAMdisk.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@writeme.com


Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

Ian Deans <isdeans1.-_@...>
 

No you still need the RAMdisk Robert, particularly if your are taking Metop. Even without Metop some of Met product files nowadays are quite large and certainly the CMA 1 Km data drops the RAMdisk size when I start up in the morning.

Regards
Ian.

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From: "Robert Moore" <rsmoore@liv.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:18 PM
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

Apologies for butting in on this - does this mean I can dispense with the RAMdisk when the DVB box is installed?

Robert


Re: DVBWorld

Robert Moore
 

Well John, this is the way it comes up on my screen - and it had me confused for ages until I spotted that TP14 was not giving me the right polarisation. Then I noticed the wrong frequency!
Anyhow I'm about to uninstall and reinstall Eumetcast software and EKU, my most recent disk says 'EUMETCast Client Software V 5.0' thogh the readme file says the software is V 2.4.4b. So I guess this is the one to use.

Robert

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, geojohnt@... wrote:


In a message dated 20/05/2009 11:13:59 GMT Daylight Time, rsmoore@...
writes:

BTW I have TP14_12034_V_27500 and TP11_11977_H_27500 so I am receiving on
TP11 at present.


Robert,

Now I'm really confused.

Regards,
John.




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Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

Robert Moore
 

Apologies for butting in on this - does this mean I can dispense with the RAMdisk when the DVB box is installed?

Robert

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

Ian Deans wrote:
Trevor, you should be able to disable and remove the driver through
Device Manager. The AR-soft RAMDisk is listed in Device Manager, but
under another heading, which I cannot remember as I am using another
free RAMDisk which is listed in Device Manager in its own name (
under Windows 7 )

You will still be left with a folder in Control Panel but that is of
no consequence.
[]
Hope that helps.

Regards
Ian.
Ian,

Quite interesting looking at this more closely. In Device Manager, it
suggests that the AR Soft device is associated with a service called
"ramdisk", but this isn't listed in the Services Manager, so ypu can't
just disable it there.

Checking the files shows:

&#92;Windows&#92;Ssytem32&#92;ramdisk.cpl - 94,208 bytes

&#92;Windows&#92;System32&#92;drivers&#92;ramdisk.sys - 10,431 bytes

Once the PC has been rebooted with the AR Soft RAM disk disabled, those
files could be renamed, check reboot of the PC, and then deleted assuming
all is well. Just to remove the Control Panel item: try renaming:
ramdisk.cpl to ramdisk.cpl.old.

BTW: Trevor, the device we are now using for Windows-7 tests is this free
RAMdisk:

http://www.cenatek.com/product_page_ramdisk_download_list.php

the one at the top "Dataram RAMDisk".

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@...


Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

Ian Deans <isdeans1.-_@...>
 

I will try that later when I close down. I had originally tried the AR-soft RAMDisk when setting up Windows 7 but I am using the Dataram RAMDisk.

The original AR-soft RAMDisk drivers were removed through Device Manager ( there is an option to do this when disabling ) but I do see ramdisk.cpl in Windows System 32 so I will rename it and see if the Control Panel entry disappears.

Thanks David.

By the way I see the MSG LSA SAF data has started again, although with a few gaps. Lets see how it settles down.

Regards
Ian.

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From: "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:58 PM
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk


. Just to remove the Control Panel item: try renaming:
ramdisk.cpl to ramdisk.cpl.old.
Cheers,
David


Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Ian Deans wrote:
Trevor, you should be able to disable and remove the driver through
Device Manager. The AR-soft RAMDisk is listed in Device Manager, but
under another heading, which I cannot remember as I am using another
free RAMDisk which is listed in Device Manager in its own name (
under Windows 7 )

You will still be left with a folder in Control Panel but that is of
no consequence.
[]
Hope that helps.

Regards
Ian.
Ian,

Quite interesting looking at this more closely. In Device Manager, it suggests that the AR Soft device is associated with a service called "ramdisk", but this isn't listed in the Services Manager, so ypu can't just disable it there.

Checking the files shows:

&#92;Windows&#92;Ssytem32&#92;ramdisk.cpl - 94,208 bytes

&#92;Windows&#92;System32&#92;drivers&#92;ramdisk.sys - 10,431 bytes

Once the PC has been rebooted with the AR Soft RAM disk disabled, those files could be renamed, check reboot of the PC, and then deleted assuming all is well. Just to remove the Control Panel item: try renaming: ramdisk.cpl to ramdisk.cpl.old.

BTW: Trevor, the device we are now using for Windows-7 tests is this free RAMdisk:

http://www.cenatek.com/product_page_ramdisk_download_list.php

the one at the top "Dataram RAMDisk".

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@writeme.com


Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Ian Deans wrote:
Trevor, you should be able to disable and remove the driver through
Device Manager. The AR-soft RAMDisk is listed in Device Manager, but
under another heading, which I cannot remember as I am using another
free RAMDisk which is listed in Device Manager in its own name (
under Windows 7 )

You will still be left with a folder in Control Panel but that is of
no consequence.
[]
Hope that helps.

Regards
Ian.
Ian, Trevor,

In Windows-7 at least, Device Manager:

- Memory Devices
- AR Soft RAM Disk

Thanks for that pointer, I was going to ask the same question (to get my 128MB of memory back!).

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: www.satsignal.eu
Email: davidtaylor@writeme.com


Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

Ian Deans <isdeans1.-_@...>
 

Another Point I perhaps should have mentioned was that when I was using the
AR-soft RAMdisk I had to use the setting " Emulate a local hard disk "
rather than Ram disk mode. Having said that using the wrong setting simply
stopped it working and it did not even show under My Computer. Your problem
seems slightly more severe !!

Regards
Ian.


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From: <tsmithers@cix.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:55 PM
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <tsmithers@cix.co.uk>
Subject: [MSG-1] Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

I'm setting up a new system on XP pro based around the DVBWorld box. The
box installed ok and
I've set the PID's etc. Installed TelliCast and eToken and confirmed that
data is flowing as
expected and then went on to edit recv-channels.ini to sort out the file
structure etc.

At this point I installed AR-soft Ramdisk, set it to 80mb (83000000 in
recv.ini)

Now, when I start up DVBWorld, the system crashes with a screen of
information that is too quick
to read. On other occasions the DVB opening screen comes up but everything
freezes.

I'm assuming this is something to do with the ramdisk install but I can't
find anywhere to uninstall
it. It's not shown in add/remove and I can't find where it lives either.
I've disabled it through the setup screen but its made no difference to
the crashing.

Does this ring any bells - any advice appreciated please.

Trevor


Re: Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

Ian Deans <isdeans1.-_@...>
 

Trevor, you should be able to disable and remove the driver through Device Manager. The AR-soft RAMDisk is listed in Device Manager, but under another heading, which I cannot remember as I am using another free RAMDisk which is listed in Device Manager in its own name ( under Windows 7 )

You will still be left with a folder in Control Panel but that is of no consequence.

When you say the system crashes when you start up the DVBWorld Box, I assume that is with Tellique running. If you start up the DVBWorld box without Tellique presumably it is working OK. Your problem with the RAMdisk is likely to be Tellique related.

Hope that helps.

Regards
Ian.


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From: <tsmithers@cix.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:55 PM
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <tsmithers@cix.co.uk>
Subject: [MSG-1] Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

I'm setting up a new system on XP pro based around the DVBWorld box. The box installed ok and
I've set the PID's etc. Installed TelliCast and eToken and confirmed that data is flowing as
expected and then went on to edit recv-channels.ini to sort out the file structure etc.

At this point I installed AR-soft Ramdisk, set it to 80mb (83000000 in recv.ini)

Now, when I start up DVBWorld, the system crashes with a screen of information that is too quick
to read. On other occasions the DVB opening screen comes up but everything freezes.

I'm assuming this is something to do with the ramdisk install but I can't find anywhere to uninstall
it. It's not shown in add/remove and I can't find where it lives either.
I've disabled it through the setup screen but its made no difference to the crashing.

Does this ring any bells - any advice appreciated please.

Trevor


Uninstall AR-soft ramdisk

Trevor Smithers
 

I'm setting up a new system on XP pro based around the DVBWorld box. The box installed ok and
I've set the PID's etc. Installed TelliCast and eToken and confirmed that data is flowing as
expected and then went on to edit recv-channels.ini to sort out the file structure etc.

At this point I installed AR-soft Ramdisk, set it to 80mb (83000000 in recv.ini)

Now, when I start up DVBWorld, the system crashes with a screen of information that is too quick
to read. On other occasions the DVB opening screen comes up but everything freezes.

I'm assuming this is something to do with the ramdisk install but I can't find anywhere to uninstall
it. It's not shown in add/remove and I can't find where it lives either.
I've disabled it through the setup screen but its made no difference to the crashing.

Does this ring any bells - any advice appreciated please.

Trevor


Re: DVBWorld

geojohnt@...
 

In a message dated 20/05/2009 11:13:59 GMT Daylight Time, rsmoore@liv.ac.uk
writes:

BTW I have TP14_12034_V_27500 and TP11_11977_H_27500 so I am receiving on
TP11 at present.


Robert,

Now I'm really confused.

Regards,
John.

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