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Re: Portable systems

Alan Banks <alan@...>
 

On 24/12/2012 09:12, David J Taylor wrote:


Alan,

I believe that, within England, a 60 cm dish is usually adequate.

I do have a 37 cm dish which will get Astra in Scotland, but EUMETCast is
/extremely/ marginal, so that dish is definitely too small.

It would be great to get more publicity for EUMETCast, and for the help and
assistance which GEO can give.

Cheers,
David
Thanks David,
That would be manageable.
Merry Christmas

Alan


Re: Portable systems

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi All
It would appear that I may get good use out of a EUMETCast portable
system to take to meetings of astronomers etc.
What size dish do people with such systems use?

I've got an invite to StarGazing Live on the BBC 10th Jan. I'm part of a
group of astronomers and I've been given Solar Observing. Trying to
figure a way of turning it round :-)
Cheers
Alan
==================================

Alan,

I believe that, within England, a 60 cm dish is usually adequate.

I do have a 37 cm dish which will get Astra in Scotland, but EUMETCast is /extremely/ marginal, so that dish is definitely too small.

It would be great to get more publicity for EUMETCast, and for the help and assistance which GEO can give.

Cheers,
David
--
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Portable systems

Alan Banks <alan@...>
 

Hi All
It would appear that I may get good use out of a EUMETCast portable system to take to meetings of astronomers etc.
What size dish do people with such systems use?

I've got an invite to StarGazing Live on the BBC 10th Jan. I'm part of a group of astronomers and I've been given Solar Observing. Trying to figure a way of turning it round :-)
Cheers
Alan


Re: missing data channels

a_van_belle
 

Hello Roland and David,

I agree with David, if your T is pink then there is no firewall blocking.
I have not seen firewall functions in videocard drivers, neither from nVidia or ATI. But PCs with nVidia chipset on the main board can load additional software "Nvidia Network access Manager" that acts as firewall. This can be disabled in Windows without altering the BIOS.

As David said there must be something wrong with your user name/password or EKU install.

Can you run: Start > eToken > eToken properties > View eToken Info ?
If not then reinstall eToken run time environment (eToken RTE).

Greetings,
Arne van Belle

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

Hallo, David !
Thanks for your very kind interest in my drama. When put into a port
accepting it the dongle produces a permanent red glow.
No flashes ! After x-reboots I now do not get anymore SAF data which was the
only one opened before. All I have now is the announcement channel data
being continuously produced - and o.k. status being shown. All this points
to all data being blocked by some silly firewall or other blocking device. I
run my PC now with XP professional - before I had XP home. Growing trouble
with receiving tellicast-Eumetsat forced me to do this step. I did not see
any alternative since Tellicast just was before its final breath.
So, reloading my PC from scratch has been futile so far.
I will send the facts to Darmstadt - Debbie did a great job in providing me
rapidly with the new version 5.8. plus a new dongle.
Should you or another expert member of this group have some suspicion as to
the reasons of my problem I would be most thankful for your thoughts.
Regards
Roland
There is no data from any data channel showing up.
Throughbits between zero and 600. before. kl of those z
===================================

Roland,

The change from XP Home to XP Professional should make little or no
difference. My main receive-only PC runs XP Home and works perfectly well.
If you think there is a firewall issue, you may want to check that the XP
firewall is turned off. But, it the announcement channel is getting
through, I believe that there is no firewall issue. Getting connection but
no data suggests authorisation or eToken problems. Some ideas, which you
may have already tried.

1 - Does the eToken install correctly? There is a quick test mentioned on
the EUMETSAT 5.8 install instructions.

2 - Turn on verbose logging for TelliCast, and see what the log file says.

3 - I wonder whether your username and password are correct?

4 - You could try the generic username and password which will work with no
eToken installed.

From your other mail - it will be the network interface on the motherboard
which is trying to provide firewall protection, and it may be a BIOS setting
to disable that. But if the TelliCast icon is "pink", there is no firewall
problem (as far as I know).

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: missing data channels

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hallo, David !
Thanks for your very kind interest in my drama. When put into a port accepting it the dongle produces a permanent red glow.
No flashes ! After x-reboots I now do not get anymore SAF data which was the only one opened before. All I have now is the announcement channel data being continuously produced - and o.k. status being shown. All this points to all data being blocked by some silly firewall or other blocking device. I run my PC now with XP professional - before I had XP home. Growing trouble with receiving tellicast-Eumetsat forced me to do this step. I did not see any alternative since Tellicast just was before its final breath.
So, reloading my PC from scratch has been futile so far.
I will send the facts to Darmstadt - Debbie did a great job in providing me rapidly with the new version 5.8. plus a new dongle.
Should you or another expert member of this group have some suspicion as to the reasons of my problem I would be most thankful for your thoughts.
Regards
Roland
There is no data from any data channel showing up.
Throughbits between zero and 600. before. kl of those z
===================================

Roland,

The change from XP Home to XP Professional should make little or no difference. My main receive-only PC runs XP Home and works perfectly well. If you think there is a firewall issue, you may want to check that the XP firewall is turned off. But, it the announcement channel is getting through, I believe that there is no firewall issue. Getting connection but no data suggests authorisation or eToken problems. Some ideas, which you may have already tried.

1 - Does the eToken install correctly? There is a quick test mentioned on the EUMETSAT 5.8 install instructions.

2 - Turn on verbose logging for TelliCast, and see what the log file says.

3 - I wonder whether your username and password are correct?

4 - You could try the generic username and password which will work with no eToken installed.

From your other mail - it will be the network interface on the motherboard which is trying to provide firewall protection, and it may be a BIOS setting to disable that. But if the TelliCast icon is "pink", there is no firewall problem (as far as I know).

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


data channels blocked by----ATI-Nvidia firewall !?

Roland Fechter
 

Hello,
Our Italian friend, Giovanni, had a similar problem some time ago.
He too used an ATI-NVIDIA graphic card - mine is a Radeon HD 4650
- I had another lower performance Nvidia card before.
I remember it caused me the same problem as today - data channels being blocked by the NVIDIA firewall then called the Nvidia Network access Manager. Once this nuisance removed my data streamed again.
Now - its more complicated for me. ATI has modernised - its nuisance calls itself now Catalyst Install Manager and Catalyst Controll Center.
The problem is that its main contents are useful ATI drivers and that their current firewall function is well hidden somewhere there.
What I did is to remove both Manager and controll center as I obtained a batch of fitting drivers from another source.
I am sure that their firewall is still active in my system somewhere well hidden blocking my data channels.
I wonder if there are among you similar sufferers who managed to
overcome this problem.
May I learn what needs to be done please ?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Roland


Re: missing data channels

Roland Fechter
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

Hello,
I currently have the latest Eumetsat software ver. 5.8. & Version
2.6.7.1063 of the Data Manager.
Much to my surprise I only receive SAF & Ascat data whereas all the
remaing data channels are missing !
My pid list is complete - green DVB symbol !
I am at an entire loss - could I have your help please ?
Thanks in advance and regards.
Roland
================================

Roland,

What did you change to bring about this state of affairs? Is you eToken
glowing red, with occasional dark flashes? Have you tried rebooting?

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Hallo, David !
Thanks for your very kind interest in my drama. When put into a port accepting it the dongle produces a permanent red glow.
No flashes ! After x-reboots I now do not get anymore SAF data which was the only one opened before. All I have now is the announcement channel data being continuously produced - and o.k. status being shown. All this points to all data being blocked by some silly firewall or other blocking device. I run my PC now with XP professional - before I had XP home. Growing trouble with receiving tellicast-Eumetsat forced me to do this step. I did not see any alternative since Tellicast just was before its final breath.
So, reloading my PC from scratch has been futile so far.
I will send the facts to Darmstadt - Debbie did a great job in providing me rapidly with the new version 5.8. plus a new dongle.
Should you or another expert member of this group have some suspicion as to the reasons of my problem I would be most thankful for your thoughts.
Regards
Roland
There is no data from any data channel showing up.
Throughbits between zero and 600. before. kl of those z


Re: missing data channels

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hello,
I currently have the latest Eumetsat software ver. 5.8. & Version
2.6.7.1063 of the Data Manager.
Much to my surprise I only receive SAF & Ascat data whereas all the
remaing data channels are missing !
My pid list is complete - green DVB symbol !
I am at an entire loss - could I have your help please ?
Thanks in advance and regards.
Roland
================================

Roland,

What did you change to bring about this state of affairs? Is you eToken glowing red, with occasional dark flashes? Have you tried rebooting?

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: Metop-B

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi Folks,
pease anybody can tell me what to set and where to recieve
the Metop-B?
Thanks in advance.
Enzo
======================================

Folks,

There is a Metop users' group here:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/METOP/

There is some information about receiving data from Metop-B on the Metop Manager Web page:

http://www.satsignal.eu/software/metop_manager.htm#metop-b

You may need to request the data from Ops at EUMETSAT. Please note that an upgrade to version 2 of the Metop Manager is required, and existing users may purchase the upgrade here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/software/reg-metop-manager-upgrade.html

If you are not already a Metop Manager user, you can download a 30-day evaluation version here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/software/metop_manager.htm

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Metop-B

Vincenzo Mone
 

Hi Folks,
pease anybody can tell me what to set and where to recieve
the Metop-B?
Thanks in advance.
Enzo


missing data channels

Roland Fechter
 

Hello,
I currently have the latest Eumetsat software ver. 5.8. & Version
2.6.7.1063 of the Data Manager.
Much to my surprise I only receive SAF & Ascat data whereas all the
remaing data channels are missing !
My pid list is complete - green DVB symbol !
I am at an entire loss - could I have your help please ?
Thanks in advance and regards.
Roland


Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

Vincenzo Mone
 

Oh sorry David,
I missunderstood.
I will reverse back and wait until January 21st.
For the message if i rember it was how to set fot Metop-B.
I missed it.
Thanks
Enzo

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 21/dic/2012, alle ore 20:22, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@yahoo.co.uk> ha scritto:

Hi David,
Thanks for your help.
I've made the changed in the MSGDM as you suggested but i am noting that
since i' ve made the changed, i do not receive anything more.
I remember that there was a message that passed on the forum that explaine
how to set to receive MSG-3 and/or Metop-B.
Unfortunately i missed it. Please can you point me to that message?
Thanks
Enzo
==================================

Enzo,

I said NOT to change the MSG Data Manager until MSG-3/Meteosat-10 became the
official satellite. That's January 21, at the moment. See:

http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/Satellites/SP_2012113011418367?l=en

You can use the Yahoo group search facility to find older messages:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MSG-1/messages

Use the box "Search:" immediately above the list of messages. There have
been lots of messages, so I don't know which one you mean.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi David,
Thanks for your help.
I've made the changed in the MSGDM as you suggested but i am noting that since i' ve made the changed, i do not receive anything more.
I remember that there was a message that passed on the forum that explaine how to set to receive MSG-3 and/or Metop-B.
Unfortunately i missed it. Please can you point me to that message?
Thanks
Enzo
==================================

Enzo,

I said NOT to change the MSG Data Manager until MSG-3/Meteosat-10 became the official satellite. That's January 21, at the moment. See:

http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/Satellites/SP_2012113011418367?l=en

You can use the Yahoo group search facility to find older messages:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MSG-1/messages

Use the box "Search:" immediately above the list of messages. There have been lots of messages, so I don't know which one you mean.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: R: R: R: Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

Vincenzo Mone
 

Hi David,
Thanks for your help.
I've made the changed in the MSGDM as you suggested but i am noting that since i' ve made the changed, i do not receive anything more.
I remember that there was a message that passed on the forum that explaine how to set to receive MSG-3 and/or Metop-B.
Unfortunately i missed it. Please can you point me to that message?
Thanks
Enzo

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 21/dic/2012, alle ore 08:36, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@yahoo.co.uk> ha scritto:

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincenzo Mone
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:38 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: R: R: R: [MSG-1] Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

Nigel,
[]
Please can you tell me the settings for the MSG 3?
[]
73's de Enzo IK8OZV
=========================================================

Enzo,

As your installation seems more delicate than most, I suggest you make no
attempt to add MSG-3 to your system right now. You need only act on the
changeover day when MSG-3 becomes the production satellite.

- After the appointed changeover time:

1 - stop the MSG Data Manager processing, but don't close the program. The
green LED on the start button should go out.

2 - using the Setup, Advanced dialog, change the satellite from MSG-2 to
MSG-3.

3 - Press the OK button on the Advanced dialog.

4 - close the MSG Data Manager

5 - restart the MSG Data Manager.

Everything should carry on as if nothing had happened.

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: R: R: R: Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincenzo Mone
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:38 PM
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: R: R: R: [MSG-1] Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

Nigel,
[]
Please can you tell me the settings for the MSG 3?
[]
73's de Enzo IK8OZV
=========================================================

Enzo,

As your installation seems more delicate than most, I suggest you make no attempt to add MSG-3 to your system right now. You need only act on the changeover day when MSG-3 becomes the production satellite.

- After the appointed changeover time:

1 - stop the MSG Data Manager processing, but don't close the program. The green LED on the start button should go out.

2 - using the Setup, Advanced dialog, change the satellite from MSG-2 to MSG-3.

3 - Press the OK button on the Advanced dialog.

4 - close the MSG Data Manager

5 - restart the MSG Data Manager.

Everything should carry on as if nothing had happened.

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: R: R: R: Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

nigel
 

Hi Enzo,
well that IS good news!!
These computers can seem to have a mind of their own, sometimes but being very logical things I guess that can't be true!!
I do hope it continues to behave now for you and your T remains in the pink!

I haven't yet looked in to MSG3 reception so I'd suggest you do some googling around and also have a read of the posts on this forum - there's bound to be lots of advice out there already about it.

It was no problem Enzo - that's what this hobby is all about. I'm sure we are all learning new things each day - I know I am!!
Regards and Happy Christmas
Nigel

On 20/12/12 19:38, Vincenzo Mone wrote:
Nigel,
I do not know what to do any more.
This evening I switched on the PC and saw that the "T" icon went pink
directly without doing anything.
Now I want to leave all like it is.
I have also set the Level to Quite.
Please can you tell me the settings for the MSG 3?
Or I will leave a message on the forum.
Again thanks for your helps and please
Apologize if I bothered you.


73's de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
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-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com] Per conto
di nigel
Inviato: gioved� 20 dicembre 2012 16:39
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: Re: R: R: [MSG-1] Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

Well, that's disappointing Enzo!

a) I would now try going back to not using the ramdisk - i.e. change the
setting in recv.ini [locations] to a tmp folder, in your "receiving"
folder, reboot and see if you can get an occasional pink T back.
That might point to the problem area.
Do I remember correctly that you are using Windows7 ??

b) Have you seen this recommendation by Eumetsat ?: -
http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/News/ProductServiceNews/822668?l
=en
I did this a month or so ago and it does seem to have helped cut down on
the
lost files problem I was having.

c) in my ramdisk folder I currently have 0.fsy at 128Mb and 1.fsy at 112Mb
-
they have been quite steady at this size since last reboot a week ago with
very few lost or missed files - that is on my Windows XP system.

d) what is your your EKU doing - is it flashing now ??

Cheers
Nigel

On 20/12/12 17:04, Vincenzo Mone wrote:
Nigel,
I am afraid to say that I have southed hooorray to fast because after
have installed the RAMDISK I am again back with the same problem.
Actually it is about 1 hour that I have installed the RamDisk and have
always the "T" icon Yellow.

As signal strength my DVB World program shows 53% to 59% As quality
strength my DVB World program shows 67%.

Yes how I said before I have just installed the DataRam RamDisk and
have set everything it in the recv.ini file As shown on David's Page.

When I first run the Tellicast program, after about 3 seconds I can
see in the z:&#92;receiving folder the 0.fsy file that it is 1.598KB big.

Thanks

73's de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520


R: R: R: Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

Vincenzo Mone
 

Nigel,
I do not know what to do any more.
This evening I switched on the PC and saw that the "T" icon went pink
directly without doing anything.
Now I want to leave all like it is.
I have also set the Level to Quite.
Please can you tell me the settings for the MSG 3?
Or I will leave a message on the forum.
Again thanks for your helps and please
Apologize if I bothered you.


73's de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520




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-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com] Per conto
di nigel
Inviato: giovedì 20 dicembre 2012 16:39
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: Re: R: R: [MSG-1] Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

Well, that's disappointing Enzo!

a) I would now try going back to not using the ramdisk - i.e. change the
setting in recv.ini [locations] to a tmp folder, in your "receiving"
folder, reboot and see if you can get an occasional pink T back.
That might point to the problem area.
Do I remember correctly that you are using Windows7 ??

b) Have you seen this recommendation by Eumetsat ?: -
http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/News/ProductServiceNews/822668?l
=en
I did this a month or so ago and it does seem to have helped cut down on
the
lost files problem I was having.

c) in my ramdisk folder I currently have 0.fsy at 128Mb and 1.fsy at 112Mb
-
they have been quite steady at this size since last reboot a week ago with
very few lost or missed files - that is on my Windows XP system.

d) what is your your EKU doing - is it flashing now ??

Cheers
Nigel

On 20/12/12 17:04, Vincenzo Mone wrote:
Nigel,
I am afraid to say that I have southed hooorray to fast because after
have installed the RAMDISK I am again back with the same problem.
Actually it is about 1 hour that I have installed the RamDisk and have
always the "T" icon Yellow.

As signal strength my DVB World program shows 53% to 59% As quality
strength my DVB World program shows 67%.

Yes how I said before I have just installed the DataRam RamDisk and
have set everything it in the recv.ini file As shown on David's Page.

When I first run the Tellicast program, after about 3 seconds I can
see in the z:&#92;receiving folder the 0.fsy file that it is 1.598KB big.

Thanks

73's de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520




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****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ******
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*********************************

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com] Per
conto di
nigel
Inviato: giovedì 20 dicembre 2012 15:40
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: Re: R: [MSG-1] Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

Hi Enzoy,
well that is good news - a pink T indicates that everything is
working OK,
at
least for a short time!!
My answers are:-
a) I would leave the log level at verbose until you have a stable
system
and
the T stays pink. It might well give you more clues about the problem.
As far as I know having verbose logging on for a while does not cause
any problems.

b) "TSL Announcement Channel": Lost message....." is a problem though.
It can be caused by bad signal strength/quality (dish/LNB adjustment)
and/or
cable problem from LNB to receiver - what signal strength/quality is
showing
in your DVB World programme?
I'm not sure which receiver and software you are using but hopefully
it
will
give you an indication.
Could it be bad weather related??

c) Lost messages can also be caused by not using a RAM disk - are you
using
one and is it correctly specified in recv.ini [locations] section ??
What size is it and how many .fsy files do you have in it, after
you've
been
running for a while?

d) I believe that if you see the .fsy files growing quickly in size
and
number
that could also indicate disk I/O problems (i.e. your hard disk
cannot
keep up
with the flow of data) but I'm not sure on that - someone more
knowledgeable may be able to comment.

e) When you checked the EKU functionality, did you find any problems?
Is
it
flashing now ??

Hope this helps
Nigel






On 20/12/12 15:48, Vincenzo Mone wrote:
Hi Nigel,

I have set in the ini file the Level to Verbose and made a full
reboot as you said.

Restarted again the Tellicast program and saw that the “T” icon is
still yellow.

I’ve let it go for about two hours and now while I was writing the
message to you I see that

The “T” Icon becomes pink.

If I double click on it and go into the LOG tab, I can see a lot of:



Channel: "TSL Announcement Channel": Lost message XXXXX (message
lost)


Where the XXXXX are the numbers of each messages, and after a while
I get the “T” icon red and if I pass the

Mouse pointer on the icon I can read:



Tc-recv: Connection Lost.



Now I am noticing that the “T” icon jumps from red to pink after
every
4 or
5 seconds.

I left it again for a while and it seems to be ok now.

I hope it will keep steel.

Do I need to leave the LEVEL as VERBOSE in the tc-recv.ini file?

Thanks for your helps.

Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com] Per
conto di
nigel
Inviato: mercoledì 19 dicembre 2012 20:47
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: Re: [MSG-1] Re: Again Yellow "T" icon





Hi Enzo,
This getting a bit convoluted!

a) The line I was referring to was the last one of the log that you
posted ( MSG:2012-12-19 14:4006.449:tc-recv.exe running [5460] ).
I have marked it below with <<<<******

Lvl:Date Time (UTC) :Message
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:05.735:Program started =============
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:05.735:Watchdog starting... [6500]
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:05.735:Watchdog started [6500].
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.050:Starting new child...
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.050:Started new child [5460].
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:tc-recv.exe starting... [5460]
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:tc-recv.exe version is 2.4.4a
(200610301329200) win32-i86pc ( 6.1.7600 on a 8-processor
(GenuineIntel, Pentium III (Model 42, Stepping 7)) system)
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:Log level is "normal".
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.449:tc-recv.exe running [5460].<<<<******

Are there no more lines below that one??

b) The line above that :-

MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:Log level is "normal".

shows that your attempts to set the log level to "verbose" have not
worked!
Make sure that your recv.ini file has this line in it, in the
[logging]
section:-

log_level=verbose

and then do a full reboot.
Hopefully that will then give more detail in the log file which
might give a clue as to what the problem is.


c) The constant:-
"Status :- Starting" and
"TSL Announcement Channel :- Connecting" messages indicate (to me,
at
least) that there is one final bit of your setup that is not right!

Have you done the checks on the Eumetsat trouble shooting page,
section (B1.3), concerning the EKU functionality? :-

http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/DataAccess/EUMETCast/ReceptionSt
atio
nSet-u
p/SP_201003171032773?l=en#B1.3

I find it odd that your EKU isn't flashing occasionally, although I
do not know what actually makes it flash (i.e. is it when it is
interrogated by tc-recv or ????)

If I were you, I would NOT move it from one USB port to another, on
your Windows machine. Leave it where it is and then do ALL the
checks listed in the Eumetsat trouble shooting page.

Apart from that, Enzo, I do not what else to suggest at this stage -
sorry.
Good luck,
Nigel

On 19/12/12 19:36, ik8ozv wrote:
Hi Nigel, hera are the answers at your questions:

is there nothing more, after the "tc-recv.exe running" line ??
WHERE TO SEE? CANNOT FIND THAT LINE.

Also, the line before that says " Log level is "normal"" - how did
you make the change to "verbose" ??
It can be done in your recv.ini file _or_ at the top of the log
page of the HTML shell.
I'VE DONE IT AT THE TOP OF THE LOG PAGE OF THE HTML PAGE.
DONE ALSO BY THE RECV.INI FILE BUT GAD THE SAME RESULTS.

Also at the top of HTML shell pages, there is a line showing
Status
- what does yours say??
IT SAYS STATUS: STARTING

On the "Active Channels" page, what does the line for "TSL
Announcement Channel" show ??
IT SAYS:
STATE: CONNECTING
PRIORITY: 0
BANDWIDTH: 10000
RECEIVED BYTES: 0

On the "License" page, is your user_name absolutely correct and do
you have 4 groups of 4 stars against host_key_4 ??
YES THE USER_NAME IS CORRECT AND HAVE A GRUOPS OF 4 STARS
AGAINST
HOST_KEY_4
Any other suggestions?
Thanks
Enzo



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Re: Parallel dissemination

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi to those receiving MSG 3.
Don't want to bother ops with getting parallel dissemination if there is
no advantage over 1 & 2, if there is no real benefit.
Apart from testing one's system, is there an additional benefit?
Cheers

Alan
========================================

Alan,

In principle, on switchover day, the MSG-3 data will start appearing in the directories normally used by MSG-2 (and I expect that MSG-2 may also switch to data channel 15, with files named "parallel"). So after the appointed changeover time, you would stop the full-scan MSG Data Manager, use the Advanced dialog settings to change it from MSG-2 to MSG-3, restart it, and everything should carry on as if nothing had happened. "Should" is the important word here!

There's little to be gained by running a 3rd instance of the MSG Data Manager, unless you want to report on the parallel dissemination, or see how your system copes with the greater amount of data (and memory use).

[There's at least one exception to this, and that's where the different orbital locations of the satellites provide slightly different viewpoints, which may affect how vegetation appears. For researchers, having the dual full-scan views is an otherwise unrepeatable opportunity.]

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk


Re: R: R: Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

nigel
 

Well, that's disappointing Enzo!

a) I would now try going back to not using the ramdisk - i.e. change the setting in recv.ini [locations] to a tmp folder, in your "receiving" folder, reboot and see if you can get an occasional pink T back.
That might point to the problem area.
Do I remember correctly that you are using Windows7 ??

b) Have you seen this recommendation by Eumetsat ?: -
http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/News/ProductServiceNews/822668?l=en
I did this a month or so ago and it does seem to have helped cut down on the lost files problem I was having.

c) in my ramdisk folder I currently have 0.fsy at 128Mb and 1.fsy at 112Mb - they have been quite steady at this size since last reboot a week ago with very few lost or missed files - that is on my Windows XP system.

d) what is your your EKU doing - is it flashing now ??

Cheers
Nigel

On 20/12/12 17:04, Vincenzo Mone wrote:
Nigel,
I am afraid to say that I have southed hooorray to fast because after have
installed the RAMDISK I
am again back with the same problem.
Actually it is about 1 hour that I have installed the RamDisk and have
always the "T" icon Yellow.

As signal strength my DVB World program shows 53% to 59%
As quality strength my DVB World program shows 67%.

Yes how I said before I have just installed the DataRam RamDisk and have set
everything it in the recv.ini file
As shown on David's Page.

When I first run the Tellicast program, after about 3 seconds I can see in
the z:&#92;receiving folder the 0.fsy file that it is 1.598KB big.

Thanks

73's de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520




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-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com] Per conto
di nigel
Inviato: gioved� 20 dicembre 2012 15:40
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: Re: R: [MSG-1] Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

Hi Enzoy,
well that is good news - a pink T indicates that everything is working OK,
at
least for a short time!!
My answers are:-
a) I would leave the log level at verbose until you have a stable system
and
the T stays pink. It might well give you more clues about the problem.
As far as I know having verbose logging on for a while does not cause any
problems.

b) "TSL Announcement Channel": Lost message....." is a problem though.
It can be caused by bad signal strength/quality (dish/LNB adjustment)
and/or
cable problem from LNB to receiver - what signal strength/quality is
showing
in your DVB World programme?
I'm not sure which receiver and software you are using but hopefully it
will
give you an indication.
Could it be bad weather related??

c) Lost messages can also be caused by not using a RAM disk - are you
using
one and is it correctly specified in recv.ini [locations] section ??
What size is it and how many .fsy files do you have in it, after you've
been
running for a while?

d) I believe that if you see the .fsy files growing quickly in size and
number
that could also indicate disk I/O problems (i.e. your hard disk cannot
keep up
with the flow of data) but I'm not sure on that - someone more
knowledgeable may be able to comment.

e) When you checked the EKU functionality, did you find any problems? Is
it
flashing now ??

Hope this helps
Nigel






On 20/12/12 15:48, Vincenzo Mone wrote:
Hi Nigel,

I have set in the ini file the Level to Verbose and made a full
reboot as you said.

Restarted again the Tellicast program and saw that the �T� icon is
still yellow.

I�ve let it go for about two hours and now while I was writing the
message to you I see that

The �T� Icon becomes pink.

If I double click on it and go into the LOG tab, I can see a lot of:



Channel: "TSL Announcement Channel": Lost message XXXXX (message
lost)


Where the XXXXX are the numbers of each messages, and after a while I
get the �T� icon red and if I pass the

Mouse pointer on the icon I can read:



Tc-recv: Connection Lost.



Now I am noticing that the �T� icon jumps from red to pink after every
4 or
5 seconds.

I left it again for a while and it seems to be ok now.

I hope it will keep steel.

Do I need to leave the LEVEL as VERBOSE in the tc-recv.ini file?

Thanks for your helps.

Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com] Per
conto di
nigel
Inviato: mercoled� 19 dicembre 2012 20:47
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: Re: [MSG-1] Re: Again Yellow "T" icon





Hi Enzo,
This getting a bit convoluted!

a) The line I was referring to was the last one of the log that you
posted ( MSG:2012-12-19 14:4006.449:tc-recv.exe running [5460] ).
I have marked it below with <<<<******

Lvl:Date Time (UTC) :Message
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:05.735:Program started =============
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:05.735:Watchdog starting... [6500]
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:05.735:Watchdog started [6500].
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.050:Starting new child...
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.050:Started new child [5460].
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:tc-recv.exe starting... [5460]
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:tc-recv.exe version is 2.4.4a
(200610301329200) win32-i86pc ( 6.1.7600 on a 8-processor
(GenuineIntel, Pentium III (Model 42, Stepping 7)) system)
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:Log level is "normal".
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.449:tc-recv.exe running [5460].<<<<******

Are there no more lines below that one??

b) The line above that :-

MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:Log level is "normal".

shows that your attempts to set the log level to "verbose" have not
worked!
Make sure that your recv.ini file has this line in it, in the
[logging]
section:-

log_level=verbose

and then do a full reboot.
Hopefully that will then give more detail in the log file which might
give a clue as to what the problem is.


c) The constant:-
"Status :- Starting" and
"TSL Announcement Channel :- Connecting" messages indicate (to me, at
least) that there is one final bit of your setup that is not right!

Have you done the checks on the Eumetsat trouble shooting page,
section (B1.3), concerning the EKU functionality? :-

http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/DataAccess/EUMETCast/ReceptionSt
atio
nSet-u
p/SP_201003171032773?l=en#B1.3

I find it odd that your EKU isn't flashing occasionally, although I do
not know what actually makes it flash (i.e. is it when it is
interrogated by tc-recv or ????)

If I were you, I would NOT move it from one USB port to another, on
your Windows machine. Leave it where it is and then do ALL the checks
listed in the Eumetsat trouble shooting page.

Apart from that, Enzo, I do not what else to suggest at this stage -
sorry.
Good luck,
Nigel

On 19/12/12 19:36, ik8ozv wrote:
Hi Nigel, hera are the answers at your questions:

is there nothing more, after the "tc-recv.exe running" line ??
WHERE TO SEE? CANNOT FIND THAT LINE.

Also, the line before that says " Log level is "normal"" - how did
you make the change to "verbose" ??
It can be done in your recv.ini file _or_ at the top of the log page
of the HTML shell.
I'VE DONE IT AT THE TOP OF THE LOG PAGE OF THE HTML PAGE.
DONE ALSO BY THE RECV.INI FILE BUT GAD THE SAME RESULTS.

Also at the top of HTML shell pages, there is a line showing Status
- what does yours say??
IT SAYS STATUS: STARTING

On the "Active Channels" page, what does the line for "TSL
Announcement Channel" show ??
IT SAYS:
STATE: CONNECTING
PRIORITY: 0
BANDWIDTH: 10000
RECEIVED BYTES: 0

On the "License" page, is your user_name absolutely correct and do
you have 4 groups of 4 stars against host_key_4 ??
YES THE USER_NAME IS CORRECT AND HAVE A GRUOPS OF 4 STARS
AGAINST
HOST_KEY_4
Any other suggestions?
Thanks
Enzo


R: R: Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

Vincenzo Mone
 

Nigel,
I am afraid to say that I have southed hooorray to fast because after have
installed the RAMDISK I
am again back with the same problem.
Actually it is about 1 hour that I have installed the RamDisk and have
always the "T" icon Yellow.

As signal strength my DVB World program shows 53% to 59%
As quality strength my DVB World program shows 67%.

Yes how I said before I have just installed the DataRam RamDisk and have set
everything it in the recv.ini file
As shown on David's Page.

When I first run the Tellicast program, after about 3 seconds I can see in
the z:&#92;receiving folder the 0.fsy file that it is 1.598KB big.

Thanks

73's de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520




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****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ******
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*********************************

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com] Per conto
di nigel
Inviato: giovedì 20 dicembre 2012 15:40
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: Re: R: [MSG-1] Re: Again Yellow "T" icon

Hi Enzoy,
well that is good news - a pink T indicates that everything is working OK,
at
least for a short time!!
My answers are:-
a) I would leave the log level at verbose until you have a stable system
and
the T stays pink. It might well give you more clues about the problem.
As far as I know having verbose logging on for a while does not cause any
problems.

b) "TSL Announcement Channel": Lost message....." is a problem though.
It can be caused by bad signal strength/quality (dish/LNB adjustment)
and/or
cable problem from LNB to receiver - what signal strength/quality is
showing
in your DVB World programme?
I'm not sure which receiver and software you are using but hopefully it
will
give you an indication.
Could it be bad weather related??

c) Lost messages can also be caused by not using a RAM disk - are you
using
one and is it correctly specified in recv.ini [locations] section ??
What size is it and how many .fsy files do you have in it, after you've
been
running for a while?

d) I believe that if you see the .fsy files growing quickly in size and
number
that could also indicate disk I/O problems (i.e. your hard disk cannot
keep up
with the flow of data) but I'm not sure on that - someone more
knowledgeable may be able to comment.

e) When you checked the EKU functionality, did you find any problems? Is
it
flashing now ??

Hope this helps
Nigel






On 20/12/12 15:48, Vincenzo Mone wrote:
Hi Nigel,

I have set in the ini file the Level to Verbose and made a full
reboot as you said.

Restarted again the Tellicast program and saw that the “T” icon is
still yellow.

I’ve let it go for about two hours and now while I was writing the
message to you I see that

The “T” Icon becomes pink.

If I double click on it and go into the LOG tab, I can see a lot of:



Channel: "TSL Announcement Channel": Lost message XXXXX (message
lost)



Where the XXXXX are the numbers of each messages, and after a while I
get the “T” icon red and if I pass the

Mouse pointer on the icon I can read:



Tc-recv: Connection Lost.



Now I am noticing that the “T” icon jumps from red to pink after every
4 or
5 seconds.

I left it again for a while and it seems to be ok now.

I hope it will keep steel.

Do I need to leave the LEVEL as VERBOSE in the tc-recv.ini file?

Thanks for your helps.

Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com] Per
conto di
nigel
Inviato: mercoledì 19 dicembre 2012 20:47
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: Re: [MSG-1] Re: Again Yellow "T" icon





Hi Enzo,
This getting a bit convoluted!

a) The line I was referring to was the last one of the log that you
posted ( MSG:2012-12-19 14:4006.449:tc-recv.exe running [5460] ).
I have marked it below with <<<<******

Lvl:Date Time (UTC) :Message
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:05.735:Program started =============
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:05.735:Watchdog starting... [6500]
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:05.735:Watchdog started [6500].
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.050:Starting new child...
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.050:Started new child [5460].
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:tc-recv.exe starting... [5460]
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:tc-recv.exe version is 2.4.4a
(200610301329200) win32-i86pc ( 6.1.7600 on a 8-processor
(GenuineIntel, Pentium III (Model 42, Stepping 7)) system)
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:Log level is "normal".
MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.449:tc-recv.exe running [5460].<<<<******

Are there no more lines below that one??

b) The line above that :-

MSG:2012-12-19 14:40:06.436:Log level is "normal".

shows that your attempts to set the log level to "verbose" have not
worked!
Make sure that your recv.ini file has this line in it, in the
[logging]
section:-

log_level=verbose

and then do a full reboot.
Hopefully that will then give more detail in the log file which might
give a clue as to what the problem is.


c) The constant:-
"Status :- Starting" and
"TSL Announcement Channel :- Connecting" messages indicate (to me, at
least) that there is one final bit of your setup that is not right!

Have you done the checks on the Eumetsat trouble shooting page,
section (B1.3), concerning the EKU functionality? :-

http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/DataAccess/EUMETCast/ReceptionSt
atio
nSet-u
p/SP_201003171032773?l=en#B1.3

I find it odd that your EKU isn't flashing occasionally, although I do
not know what actually makes it flash (i.e. is it when it is
interrogated by tc-recv or ????)

If I were you, I would NOT move it from one USB port to another, on
your Windows machine. Leave it where it is and then do ALL the checks
listed in the Eumetsat trouble shooting page.

Apart from that, Enzo, I do not what else to suggest at this stage -
sorry.
Good luck,
Nigel

On 19/12/12 19:36, ik8ozv wrote:
Hi Nigel, hera are the answers at your questions:

is there nothing more, after the "tc-recv.exe running" line ??
WHERE TO SEE? CANNOT FIND THAT LINE.

Also, the line before that says " Log level is "normal"" - how did
you make the change to "verbose" ??
It can be done in your recv.ini file _or_ at the top of the log page
of the HTML shell.
I'VE DONE IT AT THE TOP OF THE LOG PAGE OF THE HTML PAGE.
DONE ALSO BY THE RECV.INI FILE BUT GAD THE SAME RESULTS.

Also at the top of HTML shell pages, there is a line showing Status
- what does yours say??
IT SAYS STATUS: STARTING

On the "Active Channels" page, what does the line for "TSL
Announcement Channel" show ??
IT SAYS:
STATE: CONNECTING
PRIORITY: 0
BANDWIDTH: 10000
RECEIVED BYTES: 0

On the "License" page, is your user_name absolutely correct and do
you have 4 groups of 4 stars against host_key_4 ??
YES THE USER_NAME IS CORRECT AND HAVE A GRUOPS OF 4 STARS
AGAINST
HOST_KEY_4
Any other suggestions?
Thanks
Enzo



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