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re usb box

duncan
 

Thanks David i will opt for the geo usb box it seems the one for me Thanks Again Duncan....

Re: usb box

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi Again or has anyone got a Technisat usb 1box surplus to requirements Thanks again all Duncan
Duncan,

Be aware that USB-1 will not meet the data rates required by EUMETCast.

Cheers,
David
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Re: Technisat SkyStar 2 TV PVR PCI Card

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi Could anyone please advise on this card as my usb box has given up the ghost and i need to get a new reciever i have seen it on e,bay but have no idea on this Thanks Duncan......Technisat SkyStar 2 TV PVR PCI Card
Duncan,

The GEO Shop list the DVB World DVB-S USB2102 box at:

http://www.geo-web.org.uk/shop.html

and it's at a reduced price for GEO members.

Cheers,
David
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Technisat SkyStar 2 TV PVR PCI Card

sueandunc <duncan.edwards3@...>
 

Hi Could anyone please advise on this card as my usb box has given up the ghost and i need to get a new reciever i have seen it on e,bay but have no idea on this Thanks Duncan......Technisat SkyStar 2 TV PVR PCI Card

Re: New to Metop

Douglas Deans
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 9:16 PM
To: MSG1 Yahoo Group
Subject: [MSG-1] New to Metop

Douglas

As I have run MsgMgr and GSS and also received the NOAA's for several years
your excellent article in GEO13 has encouraged me to give Metop a trial
before registering.

I have followed your articles instructions exactly but on finishing the Set
Up I have no data coming in. Where have I gone wrong ?


Regards..............Geoffrey


Geoffrey just a quick reply for the moment, but I expect the problem is that
the article was written 4 years ago and the channels and David's program
have changed dramatically.
Perhaps initially it may be best to have a good read of the program at
David's site :-

http://www.satsignal.eu/software/metop_manager.htm

Also remember the global AVHRR data comes in on channel EPS-10. If you
haven't already done so you will need to apply for this data.

Regards
Douglas.

New to Metop

geoffreygee90
 

Douglas

As I have run MsgMgr and GSS and also received the NOAA's for several years your excellent article in GEO13 has encouraged me to give Metop a trial before registering.

I have followed your articles instructions exactly but on finishing the Set Up I have no data coming in. Where have I gone wrong ?


Regards..............Geoffrey

Re: FSD Hourly

Ian Deans
 

Geoffrey

Pleased that you are now getting the hourly data. Keep in mind if you have also corrected Channel 1, you may be getting data coming in on that channel as well which you haven't had before. Channel 1 is EARS data.

I have pasted a URL below which will let you see what is available on the various channels --- a lot of data is now accessible !!

http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/DataAccess/EUMETCast/ReceptionStationSet-up/SP_20100623124251305?l=en

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 11:31 AM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly

Ian

Many thanks for you advice all well and hourly FESD coming in at last. It just goes to show I must have been staring at that mistake for a couple of day on and off !!!!!!!!!


Again thanks and regards............Geoffrey

Re: GCP/EB9=XP61

Robert Denton
 

Hi Again James,
Thanks for that reminder, now I recall I did this some years ago when I first used Eumetcast, the thing is, I haven't used it for a while as I'm more into APT and direct reception but yes I do remember doing this before.
Thanks again for the reminder
Rob.

--- In MSG-1@..., James Brown <satellite@...> wrote:

Good news Rob,

If you can find out which way it is slowly drifting - you could insert a
small change as per David Taylor's suggestion under his trouble-shooting
page. To quote:

'Use an offset frequency (several MHz higher or lower) to correct for
LNB oscillator offsets'

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/atovs/EUMETCast-trouble-shooting-guide.html

Cheers

James

--
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Re: FSD Hourly

geoffreygee90
 

Ian

Many thanks for you advice all well and hourly FESD coming in at last. It just goes to show I must have been staring at that mistake for a couple of day on and off !!!!!!!!!


Again thanks and regards............Geoffrey

Re: GCP/EB9=XP61

James Brown
 

In message <ij5pas+12q9@...>, Rob Denton <rob@...> writes
Hi James,
Thanks for that.
It's like pot luck, on re-boot it found the right one! At least now I know what is the problem. ThankYou.
Sorry I put = instead of - on the title but you knew what I meant.I'm using the skystar 2.6d pci card.
Best Wishes and thanks again
Rob.
Good news Rob,

If you can find out which way it is slowly drifting - you could insert a small change as per David Taylor's suggestion under his trouble-shooting page. To quote:

'Use an offset frequency (several MHz higher or lower) to correct for LNB oscillator offsets'

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/atovs/EUMETCast-trouble-shooting-guide.html

Cheers

James

--
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Re: GCP/EB9=XP61

Robert Denton
 

Hi James,
Thanks for that.
It's like pot luck, on re-boot it found the right one! At least now I know what is the problem. ThankYou.
Sorry I put = instead of - on the title but you knew what I meant.I'm using the skystar 2.6d pci card.
Best Wishes and thanks again
Rob.

--- In MSG-1@..., James Brown <satellite@...> wrote:

In message <ij5nlf+p6us@...>, Rob Denton <rob@...> writes
Hi All,
I only use Eumetcast at weekends to save energy (and my electric bill)
but on boot up instead of saying "Media Broadcast" it says
"GCP/EB9=XP61" which I googled and found it's temporary free to air
channels. What I don't understand is why it's coming up on the same sat
and frequencies as Eumetcast. Any feedback appreciated, especially if
you know how to stop this happening.
Thanks
Rob Denton.
Sorry to double post but just to clarify the TRANSPONDER you want is
11977 - the tuner frequency should be 1377 I believe with a symbol rate
of 27500

Cheers
James
--
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Re: GCP/EB9=XP61

James Brown
 

In message <ij5nlf+p6us@...>, Rob Denton <rob@...> writes
Hi All,
I only use Eumetcast at weekends to save energy (and my electric bill) but on boot up instead of saying "Media Broadcast" it says "GCP/EB9=XP61" which I googled and found it's temporary free to air channels. What I don't understand is why it's coming up on the same sat and frequencies as Eumetcast. Any feedback appreciated, especially if you know how to stop this happening.
Thanks
Rob Denton.
Sorry to double post but just to clarify the TRANSPONDER you want is 11977 - the tuner frequency should be 1377 I believe with a symbol rate of 27500

Cheers
James
--
James Brown

Re: GCP/EB9=XP61

James Brown
 

In message <ij5nlf+p6us@...>, Rob Denton <rob@...> writes
Hi All,
I only use Eumetcast at weekends to save energy (and my electric bill) but on boot up instead of saying "Media Broadcast" it says "GCP/EB9=XP61" which I googled and found it's temporary free to air channels. What I don't understand is why it's coming up on the same sat and frequencies as Eumetcast. Any feedback appreciated, especially if you know how to stop this happening.
Thanks
Rob Denton.
Hi Rob - looks like your tuner on the sky card has drifted - GCP/EB9=XP61 is marked as transmitting on 11938 whereas the channel you want for MEDIA BROADCAST is 11977

Need to re-tune a little I think,

Cheers

James

--
James Brown

GCP/EB9=XP61

Robert Denton
 

Hi All,
I only use Eumetcast at weekends to save energy (and my electric bill) but on boot up instead of saying "Media Broadcast" it says "GCP/EB9=XP61" which I googled and found it's temporary free to air channels. What I don't understand is why it's coming up on the same sat and frequencies as Eumetcast. Any feedback appreciated, especially if you know how to stop this happening.
Thanks
Rob Denton.

Re: FSD Hourly

Ian Deans
 

Geoffrey,

You will have seen a few mails discussing the recv-channel.ini settings with regard to use of capitals and I apologise if it has caused a little confusion.

You have four entries showing in your recv-channels.ini. and your first two for channels 1 and 4 have an error on the first line. [EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1] should be [EUMETSAT Data Channel 1] and the same applies for the Channel 4 setting. If the word "DATA" is all capitals you will not receive data.

Your first two entries should be exactly the same as your last two for channels 2 and 3 except of course for the channel numbers.

Hope that helps.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:10 AM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly

Ian

Thank you for your advice. I have made the change and regretably I still have no hourly FSD.
I really do not know where I am going wrong.

Regards.....Geoffrey

---- Original Message -----
From: Ian Deans
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly

Re: FSD Hourly

geoffreygee90
 

Douglas

Thanks again. I have checked my MSGDM==-Set Up and the FSD box is ticked. Still no hourly FSD . I have no idea where I am going wrong................one of the trials of being pretty ancient !!!!!!
Regards
Geoffrey

----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Deans
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly



-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:37 PM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly

Hello Douglas

Many thanks for your assistance. I have already checked with Eumaetsat that
I am registered for the 1 huorly service. See below.

Regards.............Geoffrey

OK many thanks Geoffrey. I have tried to follow back all the mails in this
thread to see what has been recommended.
I don't see any reference to checking the setting in MSG DM for Hourly FSD.
So just to be sure. In MSG DM select 'Setup', then 'Channel Selection' then
'FSD' and make sure that the 'Hourly FSD' box is ticked at the bottom.
My apologies if that is already done but I don't see any mails asking you
to check it.

Regards
Douglas.






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Re: FSD Hourly

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David,
Your mail below came in about 30 seconds after I had sent mine! We must
have been typing at the same time.
Your explanation certainly covers the situation I found. But I find
this type of behaviour rather strange and illogical - how many steps up
the directory tree is it logical that the pointer would work? Do METOP
Mgr and AVHRR Mgr work in this way too or is the pointer for those
specific? I can see that you NEED this behaviour for MSG DM where the
pointer must include several sub directories (although I avoided this by
putting all channels 1,2,&3 into one &#92;received folder). I guess you can
see that it wasn't 'documented well enough'! The problem now is that
after 7 years of evolution of the Eumetcast system and the software,
there is just so much documentation, each filled with 'gotcha's'. I read
the MSG DM documentation twice before writing my post.

Best regards - Alan S
Alan,

Yes, I thought about simultaneous typing when I saw your comment!

The AVHRR Manager accepts:

&#92;received
&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 1
&#92;received&#92;EUMETSAT_Data_Channel_1

in accordance with some early and the most recent EUMETSAT default naming conventions.

The Metop Manager requires separate directories (as some of the file names might otherwise be confused).

The amount of data has grown very substantially over the years in which EUMETCast has been in operation, and what we could get away with in the early days is no longer recommended, or included in a default EUMETCast installation. Keeping up with the data streams is enough, keeping up with the documentation much more difficult!

Cheers,
David
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Re: FSD Hourly

geoffreygee90
 

Ian

Thank you for your advice. I have made the change and regretably I still have no hourly FSD.
I really do not know where I am going wrong.

Regards.....Geoffrey

---- Original Message -----
From: Ian Deans
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly



Geoffrey, the first two items listed in your recv-channels.ini have a small
"d" in the word data and I suspect that you will therefore not be getting
any data from channel one and four.

The word Data should have a capital "D" as shown in your channel 2 and 3.
If you amend this I suspect that you will start to receive the hourly FSD.

Hope that helps.

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Gee
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:33 PM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: [MSG-1] FSD Hourly

David up

Thanks again for help, I regret that I can still not get the hourly FSD.
I have rechecked again including the PID. 0x01F4 appears in the Techni Sat
active PID list and in MSGM set up.

Copy of my rec-channels.ini below...............................what next
?.................Regards.......Geoffrey

# recv-channels.ini - TelliCast+TelliVision Client channel configuration
file
#
# 2-4-3 10-10-2005
#

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;data Channel 1

[EUMETSAT DATA Channel 4]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;data Channel 4

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 2

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=C:&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 3






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Re: FSD Hourly

Alan Sewards
 

David,
Your mail below came in about 30 seconds after I had sent mine! We must have been typing at the same time.
Your explanation certainly covers the situation I found. But I find this type of behaviour rather strange and illogical - how many steps up the directory tree is it logical that the pointer would work? Do METOP Mgr and AVHRR Mgr work in this way too or is the pointer for those specific? I can see that you NEED this behaviour for MSG DM where the pointer must include several sub directories (although I avoided this by putting all channels 1,2,&3 into one &#92;received folder). I guess you can see that it wasn't 'documented well enough'! The problem now is that after 7 years of evolution of the Eumetcast system and the software, there is just so much documentation, each filled with 'gotcha's'. I read the MSG DM documentation twice before writing my post.

Best regards - Alan S

On 11/02/2011 11:40 AM, David J Taylor wrote:
Hi all,
Ian, I had always understood that filenames in Windows and DOS were
case insensitive, so your explanation might not be correct.

I offer an alternative with a question. MSG DM only has one box for the
location of received files. Usually it points to the &#92;T-Systems&#92;Business
TV-IP&#92;received folder, but if you have followed David's advice and used
separate received filenames for the four channels, how do you tell the
Manager of the four filenames? In my system, I used &#92;received for
Channels 1, 2 and 3, and when I wanted to get Channel 4, I followed the
then current advice and called it&#92;received&#92;Channel 4. But I cannot find
anywhere where I have pointed the MSG DM to this folder. I have used
separate received folders for the METOP, AHVRR and RSS channels as the
data for these is handled by separate programs with separate Setup
boxes. I am successfully receiving the 1 hour data so somehow it is
finding its way into MSG DM!

Best regards - Alan S
Alan,

I had hoped that this was documented well enough. If you have a
recv-channels.ini file such as:

_____________________________________________
[EUMETSAT Data Channel 1]
target_directory=T:&#92;Tools&#92;TelliCast&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 1

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=T:&#92;Tools&#92;TelliCast&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 2

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=T:&#92;Tools&#92;TelliCast&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 3

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 4]
target_directory=T:&#92;Tools&#92;TelliCast&#92;received&#92;Data Channel 4

[Info-Channel-1]
target_directory=T:&#92;Tools&#92;TelliCast&#92;received

[Info-Channel-2]
target_directory=T:&#92;Tools&#92;TelliCast&#92;received&#92;Info-Channel-2
_____________________________________________


You can point the MSG Data Manager at:

T:&#92;Tools&#92;TelliCast&#92;received&#92;

and it will find the sub-directories shown. Please see the MSG Data
Manager documentation for a full list of known sub-directories (and I'll
also add that to the help for the next release).

Cheers,
David
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Re: FSD Hourly

Alan Sewards
 

Hi David and Ian,
thanks for the comments, I take your point about the [EUMETCAST...] cases - these are part of a match. Can either of you comment also on the second point I made, about the multiple target directories and the one box in MSG DM? This is puzzling me!

Best regards - Alan S

On 11/02/2011 11:27 AM, David J Taylor wrote:
Hello Alan

I take your point re the target_directory line and you may be correct
about
that ( I must test that ) but the [ EUMETSAT DATA Channel 1] and
[EUMETSAT
DATA Channel 4] are case sensitive and in both cases the word DATA
should
read "Data"

To double check I have just changed my [EUMETCAST Data Channel 2] to
[EUMETCAST DATA channel 2] and as expected the data flow stopped.

Regards
Ian.
Thanks for testing that, Ian. I hope that I had advised using copy and
paste rather than guessed transcriptions! Don't forget that this program
also has a UNIX version, so best to be letter-perfect on names and cases.

Cheers,
David
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