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Re: DVBWorld DVBS2 HD

a_van_belle
 

Hello John and David,

Sorry for the late reply, I wasn't aware of John's problems and with 32 degrees C in the shack I had to wait until cooldown.

I have been running the a DVBworld DVBS2 HD box for Envisat on a W7x64 system 24x7 since August 2010. I also tested it on Eumetcast for months. I hope the new batch of DVBS2 HD boxes is behaving the same but I have not tested this.

At first I had problems with finding the correct driver and then I had to remove/disable a lot of W7's default background jobs to limit data losses, mostly at night.

But with the correct driver and settings it has been running very stable now until Envisat sadly died last April.

For EUMETCast I can only recommend using DVBworld driver V2.0 dated 20080415. Because this package does not start IP data when DVBworld is launched, I updated only the software (NOT the drivers) from package V2.0 dated 20081224.
Unfortunately these older versions are not available for download anymore but should be on the GEO CDROM included with your box.

The newer V3.0 drivers that I tested years ago all failed data connection or had instability issues. So I am afraid you have to remove or downgrade the version you use for TV channels and install the recommended versions from the GEO CDROM.


About buying DVB S2 boxes compatible with VCM (Variable Coding and Modulation that is planned for EUMETCast in the future), we where strongly advised NOT to buy/try this as the implementation of VCM is not certain yet and by the time we need it, this VCM standard may be well adopted by manufacturers.

VCM is a sub category of the DVB-S2 standard but so new that only a few chip manufacturers offer a demodulator for it.
Although I have no real proof, I am almost certain that regular DVBS2 receivers will not work with VCM because it is not a matter of a software update. VCM needs a special, more expensive demodulator chip.

Good luck,
Arne van Belle

--- In MSG-1@..., "John Say" <seggins@...> wrote:
From: David J Taylor
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:27 AM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] DVBWorld DVBS2 HD


Yes checked them. Used the recommended one but it made no difference.
Eumetsat were unable to help.
I have commented to GEO that their web ad implies the DVBS2HD works for
Eumetcast, whereas the ad in the quarterly magazine states it does not.
I have a use for the DVBS2HD as a TV receiver which is an excellent
product...I was hoping to kill two birds with one stone...hey ho.
I suspect it filters out pure 'data' channels and presents only TV and
Radio.
I await the arrival of a DVBS box.
Meanwhile back to old system for a while...
Regards
John
==============================================

John,

I'm sure that someone /has/ used the S2 box with EUMETCast without problems,
but it's possible that this is slightly different hardware to what has been
tested before. David Simmons may be able to test the current batch.

The issue of "working"/"not working" is this. At some point in the future,
likely into 2014, EUMETSAT will change to a new broadcast standard for
EUMETCast, which will likely require the purchase of a new DVB box or card
capable of handling variable and adaptive coding (VCM and ACM). Such boxes
will also be HDTV/S2 compatible, but it is not yet clear whether all "S2"
boxes will eventually have the necessary VCM & ACM. EUMETSAT tests in
September last year indicated that /no/ consumer-level boxes had the
necessary capability. David Simmons has located one box which does, but it
is a professional level item:

http://www.tbsdtv.com/products/tbs5925-dvb-s2-tv-tuner-usb.html

at a professional level price (£170+). I've tried this box very briefly on
2-bit Win-7, and it does work OK for the current EUMETCast broadcasts, and
it /should/ work in the future as well. David S is testing it further at
the moment.

GEO did not want to give anyone the impression that buying the DVB World S2
box right now would guarantee operation with the future EUMETCast VCM/ACM
standard, hence the wording.

From previous experience, I expect that the DVB World S2 box would work
perfectly with a 32-bit version of Windows.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: mailto:david-taylor%40blueyonder.co.uk




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Thanks David, that helps a lot. The future developments are interesting to read about...I suspect the solutions will be quite a bit more expensive. We have been very lucky these last few years in having an amazing service for very little capital outlay.

Regards

John


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Meteosat-9 LRIT direct dissemination - possibility of interference

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

EUMETSAT have issued the following notice:

______________________________________________
Meteosat News Message

Issued on 2012/07/26 at 13:13

Seq Nr: 001

EUMETCast Meteosat 0 degree Multi-Service News
News information:
****LRIT DIRECT DISSEMINATION ONLY****
Meteosat-9 LRIT direct dissemination users are advised that the testing of the MSG3 LRIT transponder could interfere with the Meteosat-9 LRIT direct dissemination reception. Potential times of interference are from 08:30 to 13:30 UTC on Monday 30 July 2012, and from 07:00 to 11:00 UTC Tuesday 31 July 2012 and Wednesday 01 August 2012.

INFORMATION:
For further information, please contact the EUMETSAT User Services Helpdesk
Tel: +49 6151 807 366
Fax: +49 6151 807 379
Email: ops@...
www.eumetsat.int
______________________________________________

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: DVBWorld DVBS2 HD

seggins2000
 

From: David J Taylor
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:27 AM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] DVBWorld DVBS2 HD


Yes checked them. Used the recommended one but it made no difference.
Eumetsat were unable to help.
I have commented to GEO that their web ad implies the DVBS2HD works for
Eumetcast, whereas the ad in the quarterly magazine states it does not.
I have a use for the DVBS2HD as a TV receiver which is an excellent
product...I was hoping to kill two birds with one stone...hey ho.
I suspect it filters out pure 'data' channels and presents only TV and
Radio.
I await the arrival of a DVBS box.
Meanwhile back to old system for a while...
Regards
John
==============================================

John,

I'm sure that someone /has/ used the S2 box with EUMETCast without problems,
but it's possible that this is slightly different hardware to what has been
tested before. David Simmons may be able to test the current batch.

The issue of "working"/"not working" is this. At some point in the future,
likely into 2014, EUMETSAT will change to a new broadcast standard for
EUMETCast, which will likely require the purchase of a new DVB box or card
capable of handling variable and adaptive coding (VCM and ACM). Such boxes
will also be HDTV/S2 compatible, but it is not yet clear whether all "S2"
boxes will eventually have the necessary VCM & ACM. EUMETSAT tests in
September last year indicated that /no/ consumer-level boxes had the
necessary capability. David Simmons has located one box which does, but it
is a professional level item:

http://www.tbsdtv.com/products/tbs5925-dvb-s2-tv-tuner-usb.html

at a professional level price (£170+). I've tried this box very briefly on
2-bit Win-7, and it does work OK for the current EUMETCast broadcasts, and
it /should/ work in the future as well. David S is testing it further at
the moment.

GEO did not want to give anyone the impression that buying the DVB World S2
box right now would guarantee operation with the future EUMETCast VCM/ACM
standard, hence the wording.

From previous experience, I expect that the DVB World S2 box would work
perfectly with a 32-bit version of Windows.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: mailto:david-taylor%40blueyonder.co.uk




No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5156 - Release Date: 07/26/12

Thanks David, that helps a lot. The future developments are interesting to read about...I suspect the solutions will be quite a bit more expensive. We have been very lucky these last few years in having an amazing service for very little capital outlay.

Regards

John


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: DVBWorld DVBS2 HD

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Yes checked them. Used the recommended one but it made no difference.
Eumetsat were unable to help.
I have commented to GEO that their web ad implies the DVBS2HD works for Eumetcast, whereas the ad in the quarterly magazine states it does not.
I have a use for the DVBS2HD as a TV receiver which is an excellent product...I was hoping to kill two birds with one stone...hey ho.
I suspect it filters out pure 'data' channels and presents only TV and Radio.
I await the arrival of a DVBS box.
Meanwhile back to old system for a while...
Regards
John
==============================================

John,

I'm sure that someone /has/ used the S2 box with EUMETCast without problems, but it's possible that this is slightly different hardware to what has been tested before. David Simmons may be able to test the current batch.

The issue of "working"/"not working" is this. At some point in the future, likely into 2014, EUMETSAT will change to a new broadcast standard for EUMETCast, which will likely require the purchase of a new DVB box or card capable of handling variable and adaptive coding (VCM and ACM). Such boxes will also be HDTV/S2 compatible, but it is not yet clear whether all "S2" boxes will eventually have the necessary VCM & ACM. EUMETSAT tests in September last year indicated that /no/ consumer-level boxes had the necessary capability. David Simmons has located one box which does, but it is a professional level item:

http://www.tbsdtv.com/products/tbs5925-dvb-s2-tv-tuner-usb.html

at a professional level price (�170+). I've tried this box very briefly on 2-bit Win-7, and it does work OK for the current EUMETCast broadcasts, and it /should/ work in the future as well. David S is testing it further at the moment.

GEO did not want to give anyone the impression that buying the DVB World S2 box right now would guarantee operation with the future EUMETCast VCM/ACM standard, hence the wording.

From previous experience, I expect that the DVB World S2 box would work perfectly with a 32-bit version of Windows.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: DVBWorld DVBS2 HD

seggins2000
 

----- Original Message -----
From: David J Taylor
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] DVBWorld DVBS2 HD



I am using Windows 7 home premium 64bit and the drivers are the ones
supplied by the manufacturer.
It works fine as a TV receiver but I suspect it filters out pure 'data'
channels.
I will try the DVB-S box
Regards
John
========================================

John,

Did you check my notes on 64-bit drivers?

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/Dexatek.html#64-bit

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...





Yes checked them. Used the recommended one but it made no difference.
Eumetsat were unable to help.
I have commented to GEO that their web ad implies the DVBS2HD works for Eumetcast, whereas the ad in the quarterly magazine states it does not.
I have a use for the DVBS2HD as a TV receiver which is an excellent product...I was hoping to kill two birds with one stone...hey ho.
I suspect it filters out pure 'data' channels and presents only TV and Radio.
I await the arrival of a DVBS box.
Meanwhile back to old system for a while...
Regards
John


Re: DVBWorld DVBS2 HD

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Is anyone out there using this USB box successfully?
I am in need of help...
Cheers
John
============================================

Folks,

The basic DVB-S box is the one required for EUMETCast. The more expensive S2 box is primarily for HD-TV reception.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: DVBWorld DVBS2 HD

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

I am using Windows 7 home premium 64bit and the drivers are the ones supplied by the manufacturer.
It works fine as a TV receiver but I suspect it filters out pure 'data' channels.
I will try the DVB-S box
Regards
John
========================================


John,

Did you check my notes on 64-bit drivers?

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/Dexatek.html#64-bit

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: DVBWorld DVBS2 HD

seggins2000
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Deans
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] DVBWorld DVBS2 HD





-----Original Message-----
From: seggins@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:24 PM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: [MSG-1] DVBWorld DVBS2 HD

Is anyone out there using this USB box successfully?
I am in need of help...
Cheers
John

============================================

John out of interest which operating system are you using
and what drivers have you installed for the box.

This box has only recently been available from the GEO shop with all
previous boxes being the non HD ones. Driver support for these boxes
stopped about 2 years ago but the main issues are with 64-bit operating
system.

Regards
Ian.





I am using Windows 7 home premium 64bit and the drivers are the ones supplied by the manufacturer.
It works fine as a TV receiver but I suspect it filters out pure 'data' channels.
I will try the DVB-S box
Regards
John


Re: DVBWorld DVBS2 HD

Ian Deans
 

-----Original Message-----
From: seggins@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:24 PM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: [MSG-1] DVBWorld DVBS2 HD

Is anyone out there using this USB box successfully?
I am in need of help...
Cheers
John


============================================


John out of interest which operating system are you using
and what drivers have you installed for the box.

This box has only recently been available from the GEO shop with all previous boxes being the non HD ones. Driver support for these boxes stopped about 2 years ago but the main issues are with 64-bit operating system.

Regards
Ian.


DVBWorld DVBS2 HD

seggins2000
 

Is anyone out there using this USB box successfully?
I am in need of help...
Cheers
John


Re: sea temp

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi
I have deloaded the software from eumetsat and have expanded the files
I see no way to install the software.
any advice please
Pete
==========================================

Pete,

If all else fails, you could try my Sea-Ice and Sea-surface Temperature Viewer program:

http://www.satsignal.eu/software/sea-ice-viewer.htm

which is used by many folk to display the sea-surface temperature data sent over EUMETCast and from various Internet sources.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


sea temp

peterg7lja2003
 

Hi
I have deloaded the software from eumetsat and have expanded the files
I see no way to install the software.
any advice please
Pete


Re: Using the dvbs2 box

seggins2000
 

David,

I have sent all the relevant data to OPS.
Cheers
John

----- Original Message -----
From: David J Taylor
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using the dvbs2 box



David, your Windows 8 test box (presumably Dexatek/ DVBWorld) I assume is
running on Windows 8 32-bit.

I have spent ages trying to get my Dexatek box to run on Windows 8 64 bit
without success. It is the old drivers (2007/2008) which are needed for
Windows 7 64 bit which are not working.

I like Windows 8, but unfortunately using the 64-bit version on my 1
computer set-up I am finding the results disappointing with my SkyStar card
and Technisat HD USB box. I am reverting back to Windows 7 64-bit probably
at the weekend possibly with a new SSD running everything (interesting !!! )

Regards
Ian.
==============================================

Yes, Ian, the notebook on;y has 2 GB memory (and that's maxed out, it came
with 1 GB), so I felt that the 32-bit OS was more appropriate than the
64-bit OS. I do have a DVB World box working on PC Alta running Win-7/64.
Your notes on driver choice helped:

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/Dexatek.html#64-bit
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MSG-1/message/14071

Perhaps these may relate to John's problem.

I'm surprised by your comment on the TechniSat USB HD box - I've tried the
earlier USB 2 box (on Vista-32) and it seemed to work correctly. In what
respect are your results "disappointing"?

Without a touch-screen, I am struggling to see any advantage in Windows-8,
so I would welcome your observations there, but perhaps it should be a new
thread!

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: Using the dvbs2 box

Ian Deans
 

-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:32 AM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using the dvbs2 box


==============================================


I'm surprised by your comment on the TechniSat USB HD box - I've tried the
earlier USB 2 box (on Vista-32) and it seemed to work correctly. In what
respect are your results "disappointing"?

Without a touch-screen, I am struggling to see any advantage in Windows-8,
so I would welcome your observations there, but perhaps it should be a new
thread!

Cheers,
David
--
========================================================

I am maybe being a little unfair with the Technisat HD USB Box as there are two unknowns ---- a new untried box on a new beta operating system and Technisat windows 8 drivers not yet available.

My losses are fairly minor but I am seeing high figures for Missed and recovered packets. However I did try the Technisat box on Windows 7 for about 2 hours and although that is a very short period there was signs of missed and recovered packets, something I never saw with my Dexatek box or old SkyStar PCI card.

When I go back to Windows 7 64-bit I will be able to give it a good test.

I will make comment on Windows 8 later as I am just on the way out.

Regards
Ian.


Re: Using the dvbs2 box

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David, your Windows 8 test box (presumably Dexatek/ DVBWorld) I assume is
running on Windows 8 32-bit.

I have spent ages trying to get my Dexatek box to run on Windows 8 64 bit
without success. It is the old drivers (2007/2008) which are needed for
Windows 7 64 bit which are not working.

I like Windows 8, but unfortunately using the 64-bit version on my 1
computer set-up I am finding the results disappointing with my SkyStar card
and Technisat HD USB box. I am reverting back to Windows 7 64-bit probably
at the weekend possibly with a new SSD running everything (interesting !!! )

Regards
Ian.
==============================================

Yes, Ian, the notebook on;y has 2 GB memory (and that's maxed out, it came with 1 GB), so I felt that the 32-bit OS was more appropriate than the 64-bit OS. I do have a DVB World box working on PC Alta running Win-7/64. Your notes on driver choice helped:

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Dexatek/Dexatek.html#64-bit
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MSG-1/message/14071

Perhaps these may relate to John's problem.

I'm surprised by your comment on the TechniSat USB HD box - I've tried the earlier USB 2 box (on Vista-32) and it seemed to work correctly. In what respect are your results "disappointing"?

Without a touch-screen, I am struggling to see any advantage in Windows-8, so I would welcome your observations there, but perhaps it should be a new thread!

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: Using the dvbs2 box

Ian Deans
 

David, your Windows 8 test box (presumably Dexatek/ DVBWorld) I assume is
running on Windows 8 32-bit.

I have spent ages trying to get my Dexatek box to run on Windows 8 64 bit
without success. It is the old drivers (2007/2008) which are needed for
Windows 7 64 bit which are not working.

I like Windows 8, but unfortunately using the 64-bit version on my 1
computer set-up I am finding the results disappointing with my SkyStar card
and Technisat HD USB box. I am reverting back to Windows 7 64-bit probably
at the weekend possibly with a new SSD running everything (interesting !!! )

Regards
Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:57 AM
To: MSG-1@...
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using the dvbs2 box

All the drivers installed, eToken functional, dvb box configured as per
instructions on DJT's pages, addresses etc all set.
tc-recv remains yellow.
dvbs2 shows 001 Akubis Direkt not 'testbild'.

Any ideas anyone?
John Say
===============================================

John,

What does the TelliCast log file say? Or the same through the HTML shell?
Have you checked the IP address of the DVB S2 box? I see I had a similar
problem on my Windows-8 test box, and that was because I had removed UDP
access from tc-recv.exe in the Windows Firewall settings. Might be worth
checking that tc-recv.exe is allowed both UDP and TCP access through the
firewall, in both private and public domains.

Can you PING 192.168.238.238?

Cheers,
David
--


Re: Using the dvbs2 box

seggins2000
 

David,
Can ping 192.168.238.238.
UDP and TCP enabled for tc-recv.

Log file (HTML) :(verbose)
Program started
watch dog starting...[2900]
watch dog started [2900]
starting new child...
started new child [6612]
child connecting to watch dog on port 51758...

(Same in recv.txt)

----- Original Message -----
From: David J Taylor
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using the dvbs2 box



All the drivers installed, eToken functional, dvb box configured as per
instructions on DJT's pages, addresses etc all set.
tc-recv remains yellow.
dvbs2 shows 001 Akubis Direkt not 'testbild'.

Any ideas anyone?
John Say
===============================================

John,

What does the TelliCast log file say? Or the same through the HTML shell?
Have you checked the IP address of the DVB S2 box? I see I had a similar
problem on my Windows-8 test box, and that was because I had removed UDP
access from tc-recv.exe in the Windows Firewall settings. Might be worth
checking that tc-recv.exe is allowed both UDP and TCP access through the
firewall, in both private and public domains.

Can you PING 192.168.238.238?

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: Using the dvbs2 box

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

All the drivers installed, eToken functional, dvb box configured as per instructions on DJT's pages, addresses etc all set.
tc-recv remains yellow.
dvbs2 shows 001 Akubis Direkt not 'testbild'.

Any ideas anyone?
John Say
===============================================

John,

What does the TelliCast log file say? Or the same through the HTML shell? Have you checked the IP address of the DVB S2 box? I see I had a similar problem on my Windows-8 test box, and that was because I had removed UDP access from tc-recv.exe in the Windows Firewall settings. Might be worth checking that tc-recv.exe is allowed both UDP and TCP access through the firewall, in both private and public domains.

Can you PING 192.168.238.238?

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Using the dvbs2 box

seggins2000
 

All the drivers installed, eToken functional, dvb box configured as per instructions on DJT's pages, addresses etc all set.
tc-recv remains yellow.
dvbs2 shows 001 Akubis Direkt not 'testbild'.

Any ideas anyone?
John Say


Re: IASI Sea Surface Temperature L2PCore.

shona.mackie@rocketmail.com <shona.mackie@...>
 

You can use IDL to open and view IASI level 2 data. There's an API for IDL on the EUMETSAT website which contains the functions you need for reading them.

Info on data format here:
http://oiswww.eumetsat.org/WEBOPS/eps-pg/IASI-L2/IASIL2-PG-index.htm

API can be downloaded from here (EPS format IDL reader)
http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/DataAccess/SupportSoftwareTools/index.htm?l=en

Hope that helps

--- In MSG-1@..., "peterg7lja2003" <petergibson7@...> wrote:

what software is needed to use the above data
thanks