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Re: Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

Terence O'Hanlon Smith
 

--- In MSG-1@..., nick <dctower@...> wrote:

Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last
few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick
Nick,
it looks rather as though it's a quite serious fire near the border. It shows up very well on the fire-monitoring animation.
Regards,
Terence


Cold anomaly in NE Portugal

nick <dctower@...>
 

Evening all,

Any one else see the _very_ cold (black) area in NE Portugal in the last few IR images? Very obvious in Channel 4 from about 18:30 to 19:15?

Also on several other wave-lengths but not so obvious.

Any ideas as to what/why?

Regards

Nick


Re: No network

Tony EI8JK
 

Thanks Rob,
Yes I did know that, it's just that I think I'm on Hotbird but I can't find any sign of a signal just to the west of it but there is another strong signal to the east of it (Astra 19 deg?)
I have video now so I should find out tomorrow (no time to play tonight)
Tony.

--- In MSG-1@..., rob <sat@...> wrote:

Tony,
You mentioned Hotbird a few times. Please note that you need Eurobird,
at 9 degrees east, not Hotbird! (Changed some years ago.
Rob.


Re: No network

R. Alblas
 

Tony,
You mentioned Hotbird a few times. Please note that you need Eurobird, at 9 degrees east, not Hotbird! (Changed some years ago.
Rob.


tony_ei8jk schreef op 2012-09-11 17:45:

--- In MSG-1@..., "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

Hi David.

No I'm not sure I have the dish correctly pointed, that was the gist my
question ... is it possible to get an on screen signal strength with those
parameters from Hotbird ?

If you can, then I'm probably on Hotbird and need to play with the dish some
more.
If you can't then I can lock the dish and look for the problem indoors.

73, Tony.
=======================================

With an 85 cm dish here in Scotland, and one I suspect isn't 100% correctly
aligned, I get 65% quality and 8.5 dB (varying) SNR. That's on a SkyStar
2.6D card on a Windows XP PC, 4.4.1 drivers. Signal strength graph here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-snr.php

You may be nearer the edge of the footprint, and/or have a poorer alignment,
and your figures don't then seem unreasonable. In southern England I would
expect higher. Sometimes the network name does come up blank, so that's no
indication. If you are using a DVB World USB box with 64-bit drivers, there
are other issues which appear to allow video through but not data, hence my
question about which receiver and operating system you have.

73,
David
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Sorry David, I didn't pose my question very well. I wondered if the
signal strength/quality is derived from the digital stream as I note
that the Hotbird digital stream on 11977 MHz is a different symbol
rate & FEC.

I have an 80cm dish to a Skystar 2 internal card and Eumetcast V4 software.
PC is a 2.6 GHz Celeron running XP SP3 and I'm in IO51dn

I haven't tried video as I didn't load the TV software, but I suppose
that would immediately tell me which satellite I'm on. I'll maybe try
that later.

73, Tony





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Re: No network

Tony EI8JK
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

Hi David.

No I'm not sure I have the dish correctly pointed, that was the gist my
question ... is it possible to get an on screen signal strength with those
parameters from Hotbird ?

If you can, then I'm probably on Hotbird and need to play with the dish some
more.
If you can't then I can lock the dish and look for the problem indoors.

73, Tony.
=======================================

With an 85 cm dish here in Scotland, and one I suspect isn't 100% correctly
aligned, I get 65% quality and 8.5 dB (varying) SNR. That's on a SkyStar
2.6D card on a Windows XP PC, 4.4.1 drivers. Signal strength graph here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-snr.php

You may be nearer the edge of the footprint, and/or have a poorer alignment,
and your figures don't then seem unreasonable. In southern England I would
expect higher. Sometimes the network name does come up blank, so that's no
indication. If you are using a DVB World USB box with 64-bit drivers, there
are other issues which appear to allow video through but not data, hence my
question about which receiver and operating system you have.

73,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Sorry David, I didn't pose my question very well. I wondered if the signal strength/quality is derived from the digital stream as I note that the Hotbird digital stream on 11977 MHz is a different symbol rate & FEC.

I have an 80cm dish to a Skystar 2 internal card and Eumetcast V4 software.
PC is a 2.6 GHz Celeron running XP SP3 and I'm in IO51dn

I haven't tried video as I didn't load the TV software, but I suppose that would immediately tell me which satellite I'm on. I'll maybe try that later.

73, Tony


Re: No network

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi David.

No I'm not sure I have the dish correctly pointed, that was the gist my question ... is it possible to get an on screen signal strength with those parameters from Hotbird ?

If you can, then I'm probably on Hotbird and need to play with the dish some more.
If you can't then I can lock the dish and look for the problem indoors.

73, Tony.
=======================================

With an 85 cm dish here in Scotland, and one I suspect isn't 100% correctly aligned, I get 65% quality and 8.5 dB (varying) SNR. That's on a SkyStar 2.6D card on a Windows XP PC, 4.4.1 drivers. Signal strength graph here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-snr.php

You may be nearer the edge of the footprint, and/or have a poorer alignment, and your figures don't then seem unreasonable. In southern England I would expect higher. Sometimes the network name does come up blank, so that's no indication. If you are using a DVB World USB box with 64-bit drivers, there are other issues which appear to allow video through but not data, hence my question about which receiver and operating system you have.

73,
David
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SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: No network

Tony EI8JK
 

Hi David.

No I'm not sure I have the dish correctly pointed, that was the gist my question ... is it possible to get an on screen signal strength with those parameters from Hotbird ?

If you can, then I'm probably on Hotbird and need to play with the dish some more.
If you can't then I can lock the dish and look for the problem indoors.

73, Tony.

--- In MSG-1@..., "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:

============================================

Tony,

The parameters look correct, but are you sure the dish is correctly pointed?
Have you set up the required PIDs? What receiver are you using? What
operating system?

Cheers,
David
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Re: No network

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi the group
After an absence of several years I am trying to get my system up and running again.
So far without success I hasten to add and was wondering if I am on the wrong satellite.
I have loaded the new software and on "Transponder Status" I have Eurobird 9 with transponder 11977 MHz, symbol rate 27500, FEC 3/4 and horizontal pol.
Without a final tweak I have sig quality of 50% and a SNR of 6.0
My problem is that the Network box says "Acquiring" for a few seconds and then says "No Information" and no data and a yellow T

Is it possible to get a signal on Hotbird using those parameters ?
Or am I doing something wrong ?
============================================

Tony,

The parameters look correct, but are you sure the dish is correctly pointed? Have you set up the required PIDs? What receiver are you using? What operating system?

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


No network

Tony EI8JK
 

Hi the group
After an absence of several years I am trying to get my system up and running again.
So far without success I hasten to add and was wondering if I am on the wrong satellite.
I have loaded the new software and on "Transponder Status" I have Eurobird 9 with transponder 11977 MHz, symbol rate 27500, FEC 3/4 and horizontal pol.
Without a final tweak I have sig quality of 50% and a SNR of 6.0
My problem is that the Network box says "Acquiring" for a few seconds and then says "No Information" and no data and a yellow T

Is it possible to get a signal on Hotbird using those parameters ?
Or am I doing something wrong ?


Re: Back in operation

Robert Denton
 

Hi Lawrence,
You and me both!
I am up and running for the first time since last October with my Eumetcast.Problem is, I'm in a listed building and no antennas allowed. I got round it by Hiding a 80cm dish in the chicken run!
All I need now is electricity as I live off grid so only part time reception.
Best Wishes
Rob Denton G4YRZ

--- In MSG-1@..., "ldjhandm" <lawrence@...> wrote:

Its been a long time - several months - but my MSG system is finally back in operation. The original problem was the receiver which failed, and possibly the LNB. I bought new both. After considerable problems a replacement receiver was obtained. Some unexpected software problems were experienced but Eumetsat helped in a significant manner. Today I got the first signals through and then got the imagery fixed. Its been a very long time without any pictures!

Lawrence Harris


Back in operation

ldjhandm <lawrence@...>
 

Its been a long time - several months - but my MSG system is finally back in operation. The original problem was the receiver which failed, and possibly the LNB. I bought new both. After considerable problems a replacement receiver was obtained. Some unexpected software problems were experienced but Eumetsat helped in a significant manner. Today I got the first signals through and then got the imagery fixed. Its been a very long time without any pictures!

Lawrence Harris


Re: EUMETRAIN Weather Briefing

James Brown
 

In message <337EA86B0D054DB5A1435660C27FA1CA@Alta>, David J Taylor <gm8arv@...> writes
A reminder that the next EUMETRAIN Weather Briefing is at 0900 UTC tomorrow.
You can attend free, and book a place by visiting the calendar on this page
and clicking on Aug 14, and completing the form.

http://eumetrain.org/

This is what used to be called SatRepOnline. Well worth attending to see
what use the professionals make of satellite data.

See you there?

Cheers,
David
Thanks for the heads up David - My first time on the board there, so well worth it just for the experience and getting the hang of the tools!! Good to see some of our other contributors there also.

Look forward to the September one now, and have to get a microphone sorted out ;-))

Cheers

James
--
James Brown


EUMETRAIN Weather Briefing

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

A reminder that the next EUMETRAIN Weather Briefing is at 0900 UTC tomorrow. You can attend free, and book a place by visiting the calendar on this page and clicking on Aug 14, and completing the form.

http://eumetrain.org/

This is what used to be called SatRepOnline. Well worth attending to see what use the professionals make of satellite data.

See you there?

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Data reception

iw3ele
 

hello all !

Can someone help me please ?

I received all Data MSG Metop regularly.I moved the dish in another position and I have now bad images in MSG Data manager, in Metopand AVHRR. The ramdisk is ok, the signal is ok, recv.channels is ok, the T-icon is ok (white) only fsy files are not good, after a few minutes they become big (fsy.fsy.1,fsy.2 etc.).I remember that the network were MEDIABRODCAST now it always T-SYSTEM in every position of the dish, could be this ? pheraps it is not Eurobird 9 also if I have moved the dish in every position?

Thanks in advance
Fiorenzo


Re: [GEO-Subscribers] MSG-3

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

MSG-3 commissioning looks as if it is going well :-

http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/index.htm

Regards,
Douglas.
======================================

Indeed, Douglas, there is a near-full-size image here:

http://www.eumetsat.int/groups/cps/documents/image/img_msg3_firstimage_120807.jpg

Cheers,
David
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ANN: GEONETCast Americas Satellite Broadcast Outage

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Folks, I have received the following....
(copy to MSG-1 group for information)....


==============================================
*Topic: *GEONETCast Americas Satellite Broadcast Outage
*
Date/Time**Issued: *August 5, 2012 1550 UTC*
*

*Product(s) or Data Impacted:* All products on GEONETCast Americas.**

*Date/Time of Initial Impact:*August 5, 2012 1220 UTC*
*

*Date/Time of Expected End:*12 to 24 hours from Initial Impact.****

*Length of Event:*TBD*
*

*Details/Specifics of Change:*

GEONETCast Americas is carried on an Intelsat IS-9 transponder. GEONETCast Americas will be out for 12 to 24 hours from the anomaly time of 08:20 am this morning. The Intelsat IS9 spacecraft was undergoing a manoeuvre when it lost earth lock and began spinning. The outage began at 08:20 EDT or 12:20 UTC. Intelsat expects a full recovery between 12 and 24 hours from anomaly time. All files should eventually be disseminated.
==============================================


Cheers,
David
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Re: Getting Started

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Ok.

Was going to try one of these, http://www.amazon.co.uk/TechnoTrend-S-2400-DVB-S-USB-2-0/dp/B000L8XH3I but I guess it could be just wasting time and money.

Cheers

Stuart
====================================


That device is on EUMETSAT's list, Stuart, but it's one we have less experience with.

Cheers,
David
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Re: Getting Started

Stuart Poulton
 


Stuart
=================================

Yes, that's the best place, Stuart. They include a CD to help you get
going. The "DVB World DVB-S USB2102" is the one to get:

http://www.geo-web.org.uk/shop.html

There are no other suppliers in the UK.

Cheers,
David
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Ok.

Was going to try one of these, http://www.amazon.co.uk/TechnoTrend-S-2400-DVB-S-USB-2-0/dp/B000L8XH3I but I guess it could be just wasting time and money.

Cheers

Stuart


Re: Getting Started

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David,

Thanks for the pointers, and excellent guides.

Is GeoShop the best place to get a USB DVB-S box from, are there any other reliable suppliers in the UK ?

Thanks

Stuart
=================================


Yes, that's the best place, Stuart. They include a CD to help you get going. The "DVB World DVB-S USB2102" is the one to get:

http://www.geo-web.org.uk/shop.html

There are no other suppliers in the UK.

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...


Re: Getting Started

Stuart Poulton
 

On 2 Aug 2012, at 15:28, David J Taylor wrote:

Hi Folks,

So, 5-6 years ago I considered setting up to receive data, events
eventuated, time has passed, new pastures have opened up, and I am once
again considering such a move.

Whats the base requirements these days, and can it be done using linux
only ? Should I wait for another 6 months ?

Thanks

Stuart
==================================

Stuart,

I have some information on using EUMETCast on my Web page here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/atovs/index.html

A modern PC running Windows with a USB DVB receiver box, dish and cable will
get you started nicely. I offer a range of software, much of which can be
completely automated. Some of it will work under Linux/WINE, and all should
work under a Windows Virtual PC running under Linux.

http://www.satsignal.eu/software/wxsat.htm

Rob Albas offers Linux software:

http://www.alblas.demon.nl/wsat/index.html

No point in waiting - a very comprehensive range of data is already
available - including much meteorological data (rainfall, cloud-top heights)
and data such as air-mass and fog which you can derive from the basic data
using software. The data not only is from geostationary satellites around
the world, but also includes polar orbiter data from MODIS, NOAA1-19 and
Metop-A.

Cheers,
David
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David,

Thanks for the pointers, and excellent guides.

Is GeoShop the best place to get a USB DVB-S box from, are there any other reliable suppliers in the UK ?

Thanks

Stuart