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may be of interest

Robert Moore
 

From: Meteorological Technology World Expo 2019 <meteorological.expo.2019@...>

American meteorologists have written to the US Federal Communications Commission to raise concerns over potential disruptions caused by sharing a particular bandwidth with 5G telecommunication companies.

The American Geophysical Union, American Meteorological Society, and the National Weather Association, have all raised concerns over sharing the 1675-1680MHz band with terrestrial communications because of the likelihood of interference with weather satellite imagery and relayed environmental data to receive-only antennas.

According to the letter, NOAA’s GOES-R satellites have several space-to-earth transmissions in, or adjacent to, the 1675-1680MHz band, most notably, the Data Collection Platform Relay and GOES-R Rebroadcast.

The letter states, “The prospect of rule-making in this band without a fully informed record is deeply concerning because the non-federal weather services resulting from real-time data transmitted in, and adjacent to, the 1675-1680MHz band are crucially important for public safety and scientific research. The proceeding RM-11681 is complete with responses from a substantial number of stakeholders across the weather, water and climate enterprise and weather-sensitive industries that provide a compelling basis to not proceed with a sharing arrangement.”

The letter asks for a ruling on the sale of the bandwidth to be suspended or delayed until further research has been submitted by NOAA.




Robert

Re: Multicast channel info

Thorsten Miglus
 

Roland,

have you set the PID's 600 and 601 (needed for HVS-1) within your SR1 receiver?
As I don't use the SR1 I have no knowledge how to do this.
Maybe somone else can help?

Cheers,
Thorsten


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:35 AM, fly.fechter@... wrote:
Hello,
I still do not get E1H-TPG-1 and E1H-TPG-2 data.
Under General Parameters , name E1H-TPG-1 I have          E1H-TPG-2 has
state ---connecting in red                                                         connecting in red 
address ---- 224.223.223.3:7013                                             224.223.223.3:7015
priority --     500                                                                        500
bandwidth -9000000                                                                 8000000
received bytes - 0                                                                     0
packet NAKs -   allowed but disabled                                       allowed but disabled
Are the values shown here correct ?
What to do about packet NAKs allowed but disabled ??
May I stress that despite very cloudy skies I have a SNR of 11.4-11.5 and I do receive Goes 17 TPG-3 data !
I look forward to your advice.
Regards,
Roland

Re: Goes Abi manager

geojohnt@...
 

Roland,

Sorry, but I have told you several times that you should be getting at least 14 dB SNR with your dish.
And I have asked you to tell us how and where your dish mounted on your balcony - which could be the problem.

So far, no information.

It is pointless to ask David what his dish/LNB/SNR is as he live much further north than you and his received satellite signal is quite a bit lower than yours.
He uses a 125 cm dish and even with less satellite power than you has higher SNR ~ 12dB.

Here user readouts from across Europe:


You are in the 'maximum Eutelsat 10 A signal area.'

Until you get your dish sorted out and increase your SNR you will continue to have problems.

Best wishes,
John.

++++++++++++++++++++

In a message dated 29/07/2019 08:44:37 GMT Standard Time, fly.fechter@... writes:

By the way:
What is the size of your dish, David ?
What LNB do You use ?
What is your SNR ?

Multicast channel info

fly.fechter@t-online.de
 

Hello,
I still do not get E1H-TPG-1 and E1H-TPG-2 data.
Under General Parameters , name E1H-TPG-1 I have          E1H-TPG-2 has
state ---connecting in red                                                         connecting in red 
address ---- 224.223.223.3:7013                                             224.223.223.3:7015
priority --     500                                                                        500
bandwidth -9000000                                                                 8000000
received bytes - 0                                                                     0
packet NAKs -   allowed but disabled                                       allowed but disabled
Are the values shown here correct ?
What to do about packet NAKs allowed but disabled ??
May I stress that despite very cloudy skies I have a SNR of 11.4-11.5 and I do receive Goes 17 TPG-3 data !
I look forward to your advice.
Regards,
Roland

Eumetcast Multicast addresses and PID numbers - rectification

fly.fechter@t-online.de
 

Hello,
The eumetsat int website reception station setup channel and pids shows multicast addresses and pids different from those
I have stored.
Is there a possibility to replace those "false" addresses and pids ?
If so how to do it, please ?
Thanks in advance,
Regard,
Roland

Re: TBS installation query

James Brown
 

On 29/07/2019 06:26, David J Taylor via Groups.Io wrote:
From: James Brown

Thanks David. You confirm my opinion that card first might invoke generic Windows drivers, so I will put driver software first.

Incidentally, I can???t make up my mind whether this page suggests latest drives eliminates a BSOD or is the cause!

https://www.tbsdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=25098

Cheers
James
========================

Yes, James, English can be a strange language at times, even to native speakers!  Changing the driver is easy, so feel free to experiment.  The only slight snag is that sometimes the crash an take some hours to occur, leading to a false sense of: "Oh, that fixed it, then!".  The issue seems to be an interaction between the drivers and the TBS IP Tool, so whereas TBS provided updated drivers (including different buffer sizes for HVS-1 and HVS-2), perhaps they should have looked at their IP Tool instead.

Whatever, I suggest very careful monitoring of the logs and MRTG graphs from TelliCast, especially if you're going for HVS-2.

Cheers,
David
Do you have a recollection or note of which was CrazyCat's driver file or zip file? I have quite a few in a folder marked TBS but can't quite recollect which one was CC's.

Cheers,

James

Re: Goes Abi manager

fly.fechter@t-online.de
 

Thank you very much, David !
Does this warning - reset - have any meaning ?
Does this "connecting" for TPG 1 & 2 have any meaning ?
Perhaps you could tell me ?
Regards,
Roland
By the way:
What is the size of your dish, David ?
What LNB do You use ?
What is your SNR ?
Thanks,
Roland



-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [MSG-1] Goes Abi manager
Datum: 2019-07-29T07:30:00+0200
Von: "David J Taylor via Groups.Io" <gm8arv=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io>
An: "MSG-1@groups.io" <MSG-1@groups.io>

Hello,
My current SNR is around 11DB. (cloudy rainy sky)
I manage to receive the Goes 17 data but fail to receive the Goes 16 one.
Tellicast client 2.14.4
In other words - E1H-TPG-3 received
" 1 connecting
" 2 connecting
red warning ---reset
I cant explain this - is SNR 11.1 just sufficient for TPG-3 only and too
low for TPG-1, 2 ??
Do you have some explanation and could you please advise ?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland
================================

Roland,

If you can get GOES-17 you should be able to get GOES-16 as well. Check
your channels file.

GOES-16 data is every 10 minutes, and GOES-17 every 30 minutes, by the way.

Cheers,
David
--
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv






Re: Goes Abi manager

fly.fechter@t-online.de
 

-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [MSG-1] Goes Abi manager
Datum: 2019-07-29T07:30:00+0200
Von: "David J Taylor via Groups.Io" <gm8arv=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io>
An: "MSG-1@groups.io" <MSG-1@groups.io>

Hello,
My current SNR is around 11DB. (cloudy rainy sky)
I manage to receive the Goes 17 data but fail to receive the Goes 16 one.
Tellicast client 2.14.4
In other words - E1H-TPG-3 received
" 1 connecting
" 2 connecting
red warning ---reset
I cant explain this - is SNR 11.1 just sufficient for TPG-3 only and too
low for TPG-1, 2 ??
Do you have some explanation and could you please advise ?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland
================================

Roland,

If you can get GOES-17 you should be able to get GOES-16 as well. Check
your channels file.

GOES-16 data is every 10 minutes, and GOES-17 every 30 minutes, by the way.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv






Re: Goes Abi manager

David J Taylor
 

Hello,
My current SNR is around 11DB. (cloudy rainy sky)
I manage to receive the Goes 17 data but fail to receive the Goes 16 one.
Tellicast client 2.14.4
In other words - E1H-TPG-3 received
" 1 connecting
" 2 connecting
red warning ---reset
I cant explain this - is SNR 11.1 just sufficient for TPG-3 only and too low for TPG-1, 2 ??
Do you have some explanation and could you please advise ?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland
================================

Roland,

If you can get GOES-17 you should be able to get GOES-16 as well. Check your channels file.

GOES-16 data is every 10 minutes, and GOES-17 every 30 minutes, by the way.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv

Re: TBS installation query

David J Taylor
 

From: James Brown

Thanks David. You confirm my opinion that card first might invoke generic Windows drivers, so I will put driver software first.

Incidentally, I can???t make up my mind whether this page suggests latest drives eliminates a BSOD or is the cause!

https://www.tbsdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=25098

Cheers
James
========================

Yes, James, English can be a strange language at times, even to native speakers! Changing the driver is easy, so feel free to experiment. The only slight snag is that sometimes the crash an take some hours to occur, leading to a false sense of: "Oh, that fixed it, then!". The issue seems to be an interaction between the drivers and the TBS IP Tool, so whereas TBS provided updated drivers (including different buffer sizes for HVS-1 and HVS-2), perhaps they should have looked at their IP Tool instead.

Whatever, I suggest very careful monitoring of the logs and MRTG graphs from TelliCast, especially if you're going for HVS-2.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv

Re: Goes Abi manager

Robert Moore
 

Roland, many of us have been affected by the rain – I’ve had BAS alright today but HVS very broken up. Have you had much rain – I’ve had it all day in North Wales (and now!)

 

Robert

 

From: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> On Behalf Of fly.fechter@...
Sent: 28 July 2019 21:14
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: [MSG-1] Goes Abi manager

 

Hello,
My current SNR is around 11DB. (cloudy rainy sky)
I manage to receive the Goes 17 data but fail to receive the Goes 16 one.
Tellicast client 2.14.4
In other words - E1H-TPG-3 received
                               "           1 connecting
                               "           2 connecting
red warning ---reset 
I cant explain this - is SNR 11.1 just sufficient for TPG-3 only  and too low for TPG-1, 2 ??
Do you have some explanation and could you please advise ?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland

Goes Abi manager

fly.fechter@t-online.de
 

Hello,
My current SNR is around 11DB. (cloudy rainy sky)
I manage to receive the Goes 17 data but fail to receive the Goes 16 one.
Tellicast client 2.14.4
In other words - E1H-TPG-3 received
                               "           1 connecting
                               "           2 connecting
red warning ---reset 
I cant explain this - is SNR 11.1 just sufficient for TPG-3 only  and too low for TPG-1, 2 ??
Do you have some explanation and could you please advise ?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland

Re: TBS installation query

James Brown
 



On 28 Jul 2019, at 19:28, David J Taylor via Groups.Io <gm8arv@...> wrote:

As part of the 'starting from scratch' I would like to try and reinstall
the TBS 6903 card from the defunct machine. I am wondering about the
correct order -

Install drivers (CrazyCat) and then card or vice versa.

Searched the web for any updates and can only see updated driver from
TBS itself.

Cheers
James
====================================

James,

I would install the drivers for the card first, then connect the card.  I note that EUMETSAT suggest the other way round, but this may result in more recent incompatible drivers being installed.  Remember that there will be a separate power lead as well.  I'm currently using the 1.0.0.5 driver dated 2017/01/10.  This stopped the regular stream of HVS-2 missed & recovered packets (which you can still see on some other stations):

https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/tellicast-lund-hvs-2.html  (yearly graph).

I used to have to edit out the large bursts due to wind & rain so that this steady stream wasn't hidden.  I've not done that since mid-February,

Certainly try the TBS software - perhaps it's improved since I tried it but even with extensive help from TBS they could never find the cause of the problem.  Symptom, blue screen of death after 1-30 hours.  CrazyCat software no problems at all.

There is a EUMETSAT guide here:

http://www.eumetsat.int/website/wcm/idc/idcplg?IdcService=GET_FILE&dDocName=PDF_DMT_794850&RevisionSelectionMethod=LatestReleased&Rendition=Web

Cheers,


Thanks David. You confirm my opinion that card first might invoke generic Windows drivers, so I will put driver software first.

Incidentally, I can’t make up my mind whether this page suggests latest drives eliminates a BSOD or is the cause!


Cheers 
James

Re: weather impact

David J Taylor
 

I don't know if others are having the same experience, but there has been almost continuous heavy rain in North Wales today and all my HVS-1 imagery is very broken. BAS is fine. Suspect my reception for HVS is marginal and rain just attenuates the signal further without completely killing it.

Robert
========================

Same here, Robert. Similar elsewhere recently:

https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-europe_link_margin.php

Just when you need the weather data, bad weather interferes with its reception!

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv

Re: TBS installation query

David J Taylor
 

As part of the 'starting from scratch' I would like to try and reinstall
the TBS 6903 card from the defunct machine. I am wondering about the
correct order -

Install drivers (CrazyCat) and then card or vice versa.

Searched the web for any updates and can only see updated driver from
TBS itself.

Cheers
James
====================================

James,

I would install the drivers for the card first, then connect the card. I note that EUMETSAT suggest the other way round, but this may result in more recent incompatible drivers being installed. Remember that there will be a separate power lead as well. I'm currently using the 1.0.0.5 driver dated 2017/01/10. This stopped the regular stream of HVS-2 missed & recovered packets (which you can still see on some other stations):

https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/tellicast-lund-hvs-2.html (yearly graph).

I used to have to edit out the large bursts due to wind & rain so that this steady stream wasn't hidden. I've not done that since mid-February,

Certainly try the TBS software - perhaps it's improved since I tried it but even with extensive help from TBS they could never find the cause of the problem. Symptom, blue screen of death after 1-30 hours. CrazyCat software no problems at all.

There is a EUMETSAT guide here:

http://www.eumetsat.int/website/wcm/idc/idcplg?IdcService=GET_FILE&dDocName=PDF_DMT_794850&RevisionSelectionMethod=LatestReleased&Rendition=Web

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv

Re: TBS installation query

James Brown
 

Yes I have the software Douglas. It’s just the order. Drivers or card first.
Cheers,

JB out and about

On 28 Jul 2019, at 17:15, Douglas Deans via Groups.Io <dsdeans=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

On 28/07/2019 16:41, James Brown wrote:
As part of the 'starting from scratch' I would like to try and reinstall the TBS 6903 card from the defunct machine. I am wondering about the correct order -
Install drivers (CrazyCat) and then card or vice versa.
Searched the web for any updates and can only see updated driver from TBS itself.
Cheers
James
==================================================================

James, I would get the card and its TBS drivers in first. Then BDADataEx or TBS's own IP tool which I now prefer. It works fine with the 6903 and there is a version for two if you run the 6903 off a single input (as there is also for BDADataEx).

Regards,
Douglas.


weather impact

Robert Moore
 

I don't know if others are having the same experience, but there has been almost continuous heavy rain in North Wales today and all my HVS-1 imagery is very broken. BAS is fine. Suspect my reception for HVS is marginal and rain just attenuates the signal further without completely killing it.

Robert

Re: TBS installation query

Douglas Deans
 

On 28/07/2019 16:41, James Brown wrote:
As part of the 'starting from scratch' I would like to try and reinstall the TBS 6903 card from the defunct machine. I am wondering about the correct order -
Install drivers (CrazyCat) and then card or vice versa.
Searched the web for any updates and can only see updated driver from TBS itself.
Cheers
James
==================================================================

James, I would get the card and its TBS drivers in first. Then BDADataEx or TBS's own IP tool which I now prefer. It works fine with the 6903 and there is a version for two if you run the 6903 off a single input (as there is also for BDADataEx).

Regards,
Douglas.

TBS installation query

James Brown
 

As part of the 'starting from scratch' I would like to try and reinstall the TBS 6903 card from the defunct machine. I am wondering about the correct order -

Install drivers (CrazyCat) and then card or vice versa.

Searched the web for any updates and can only see updated driver from TBS itself.

Cheers

James

IODC

Ian Deans
 

Good to see the IODC service up and running again, although Monday before Met. products are resumed.

Regards
Ian.