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Re: Help for MSG1 software configuration !!!

Luca Bertagnolio <lucaberta@...>
 

Bonsoir Fabrice,

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "f5hcc" <f5hcc@w...> wrote:
In the recv.ini file, line with "user_key_crypt" is empty; maybe
some thing is wrong with my Username and User Key ?
the user password can be listed in the recv.ini either in the clear
or in encrypted form. So, in recv.ini either a:

user_key=*cleartext-pwd*

or

user_key_crypt=*encrypted-pwd*

must be present. If you user_key_crypt line does not have a
password, then edit it and change to the cleartext password you have
received from Eumetsat.

Technisat drivers are revision 4.28, and tellicast client is
revision 2.3.0a.
the Tellique version being shipped by Eumetsat now is version 2.3.1,
but 2.3.0a works without any problems.

Any idea ?
another possible source of problems on XP could be the personal
firewall installed by the OS itself. Please make sure it's turned
off in the virtual Ethernet driver adapter preferences. I only run
Windows 2000, so I am only guessing and cannot replicate the issue.

I hope someone could help me !
Fabrice.
Bye, Luca ON4OVV
Brussels, Belgium


Re: Help for MSG1 software configuration !!!

Roger Mawhinney <roger@...>
 

Fabice, Have you checked that the Technisat Setup4PC - Data Services - PID
List contains the PIDs (decimal) 100,300,301,500 for the 11096 MHz
transponder?
Roger

|

|-----Original Message-----
|From: f5hcc [mailto:f5hcc@wanadoo.fr]
|Sent: 11 October 2003 17:40
|To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
|
|Hello,
|First, I thank you for reading this message.
|I have problems to receive properly MSG1 data stream.
|I'm using a TECHNISAT card on a Pentium III 1GHz PC running
|under Windows XP Pro SP1.
|I followed all the "official instructions" (TECHNISAT,
|EUMETSAT and TELLIQUE), then all the tips I could find on the forum.
|On a hardware point of view, everything is OK (all flags are "green"
|with Setup4PC, all the parameters are OK), but I have problems
|with TELLIQUE software.
|Tellique software icone is "pink T on white background" and
|shows "connected" with mouse cursor on it, but when I run HTML
|shell, I have no throughput of data...
|Under shell, Status is "OK", Recipient shows an IP address,
|but under Active Channel, TSL announcement channel, I always
|got "Connecting" with Priority "0" and data received "0".
|Data Channel is empty (only dashes).
|I found that Host_key1, 2 and 3 are completed, but Host_key4 is empty.
|In the recv.ini file, line with "user_key_crypt" is empty;
|maybe some thing is wrong with my Username and User Key ? When
|I run TELLICAST client installation, I got an error message at
|last step, something like "unable to open file keys.ini".
|I tried to install both softwares (Technisat and Tellique) on
|another hard disk running under Windows ME and have the same problem.
|Technisat drivers are revision 4.28, and tellicast client is
|revision 2.3.0a.
|Any idea ?
|I hope someone could help me !
|Fabrice.
|
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Re: Help for MSG1 software configuration !!!

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Fabrice, you could check:

http://www.david-taylor.myby.co.uk/wxsat/atovs/index.html

http://www.david-taylor.myby.co.uk/wxsat/atovs/msg1-settings.htm

particularly the parts about PIDs and perhaps IP address.

In the recv.ini file, line with "user_key_crypt"
I don't have such a line.

"unable to open file keys.ini".
As far as I know, I don't have such a file.

I found that Host_key1, 2 and 3 are completed, but Host_key4 is
empty.

Same here - except line 4 is filled with "*" characters.

Cheers,
David


Help for MSG1 software configuration !!!

f5hcc <f5hcc@...>
 

Hello,
First, I thank you for reading this message.
I have problems to receive properly MSG1 data stream.
I'm using a TECHNISAT card on a Pentium III 1GHz PC running under
Windows XP Pro SP1.
I followed all the "official instructions" (TECHNISAT, EUMETSAT and
TELLIQUE), then all the tips I could find on the forum.
On a hardware point of view, everything is OK (all flags are "green"
with Setup4PC, all the parameters are OK), but I have problems with
TELLIQUE software.
Tellique software icone is "pink T on white background" and
shows "connected" with mouse cursor on it, but when I run HTML
shell, I have no throughput of data...
Under shell, Status is "OK", Recipient shows an IP address, but
under Active Channel, TSL announcement channel, I always
got "Connecting" with Priority "0" and data received "0".
Data Channel is empty (only dashes).
I found that Host_key1, 2 and 3 are completed, but Host_key4 is
empty.
In the recv.ini file, line with "user_key_crypt" is empty; maybe
some thing is wrong with my Username and User Key ? When I run
TELLICAST client installation, I got an error message at last step,
something like "unable to open file keys.ini".
I tried to install both softwares (Technisat and Tellique) on
another hard disk running under Windows ME and have the same problem.
Technisat drivers are revision 4.28, and tellicast client is
revision 2.3.0a.
Any idea ?
I hope someone could help me !
Fabrice.


(No subject)

Robert Moore
 

Folks - on a slightly different topic from normal: are we yet able fully to
exploit the advantages of MSG-1 over its predecessors? For example, today's HRV
animation shows fascinating cloud movements across Europe and the Eastern
Atlantic (quite beautiful to watch, too). A formless blob moves up over the
Irish Sea and the Welsh coast - how do I know if this is cloud or fog? Actually
I know it's cloud because I can look out of the window - but supposing it was
in the North Sea?
Is anyone working on this kind of question yet - or it premature until EUMETSAT
gives us more info?

Robert


------------------------------
Robert Moore


Animator queries

James Brown <james@...>
 

Hi,

Just a couple of little oddities to ponder.

1. Sometimes when I start Animator and select update it updates all 5 of the animations at the same time. At other times it allows me to do them one at a time. Is there a consistent reason for this I wonder?

2. I've noticed that on the visible Northern hemisphere Ch2 animation there are times when the brightness increases quite markedly for a few frames, particularly for the middle-range grey levels. I'm wondering if this is a transmission error, as it appears to be there whether I have histogram selected or not.

Cheers,

James
--
James Brown


Re: Missing Segments

Ian S Deans <ian@...>
 

David,

I couldn't agree more with you. I have found that loading anything that
requires the computer to restart ( MS updates new program etc. ) leaves me
with problems with the card and Tellique, although I suspect its the card
problem that affects Tellique. A full reboot gets everything back fully
working.

Regards

Ian.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David J Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Re: Missing Segments



There is something in the hardware or the two pieces of software that
doesn't reset cleanly - I have made much more use of the hardware reset
switch since I had the DVB then ever before (in years of running Windows
2000).


Re: Missing Segments

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Did you also get a missing 0845 cycle yesterday.
Yes, I did.

My log shows last file received for 0830 cycle was at
08:47:38 HRV segment 24.
thence..
08:48:21 Key 65477 expired
08:48.42 Key 65481 expired
08:49:12 Key 65483 expired
08:59:35 Received new key 65516
Return to reception of 0900 cycle.

I have also noticed this missing segment behaviour if I hot swop dishes.
The only way I found to resolve this is a switch ON/OFF, restart has no
effect and of course no hot swopping.

There is something in the hardware or the two pieces of software that
doesn't reset cleanly - I have made much more use of the hardware reset
switch since I had the DVB then ever before (in years of running Windows
2000).

Solar outage was more severe yesterday a quality drop from 70% to 48%
and SNR from 10.8 to 9.0.

I forgot to watch mine yesterday....

Must try harder today!

David


Re: Missing Segments

Peter Benney <tugboat@...>
 

My report so far:

Cycle: 0800
msg-ch09, seg: 6
msg-ch10, seg: 6

(ignoring FSD)
David,

Did you also get a missing 0845 cycle yesterday.
My log shows last file received for 0830 cycle was at
08:47:38 HRV segment 24.
thence..
08:48:21 Key 65477 expired
08:48.42 Key 65481 expired
08:49:12 Key 65483 expired
08:59:35 Received new key 65516
Return to reception of 0900 cycle.

I have also noticed this missing segment behaviour if I hot swop dishes. The only way I found to resolve this is a switch ON/OFF, restart has no effect and of course no hot swopping.

Solar outage was more severe yesterday a quality drop from 70% to 48% and SNR from 10.8 to 9.0.

Cheers

Peter


Re: Missing Segments

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

It does make you wonder, David. Tellique log file for the period
has a lot of ended/interrupted after file transmission reports
with ..files missing/incomplete. So it certainly was being picked
up. The DVB system appeared to be working perfectly, so it does
sound very similar to your own experience, except I can point to a
specific event of my own doing.
Lesson well learnt.
I was showing Ian something, as he was visiting, so maybe
sabotage !!!!

Thanks
Douglas.
Well, this morning from about 0515 UTC onwards I seem to be having a
similar problem, so I'll reboot. There were some Security Updates
pending in any case. The missing segments were correlated with log
file inconsistencies.

I'll send a little program to look at [copies of] the log files....

Cheers,
David


Re: Missing Segments

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:24 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: Missing Segments


--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas Deans" <douglas@d...> wrote:
Had visitors today and just back to the computer. I take it
others are seeing quite a number of missing segments since this
afternoon. Seem to be widely scattered.

Regards
Douglas.
My report so far:

Cycle: 0800
msg-ch09, seg: 6
msg-ch10, seg: 6

(ignoring FSD)

Glad to see you have now solved the problem. I wonder if I had the
same issue when I had all the unexplained missing segments? It
might also be interesting to check the Tellique log file.....

Cheers,
David
It does make you wonder, David. Tellique log file for the period has a lot
of ended/interrupted after file transmission reports with ..files
missing/incomplete. So it certainly was being picked up. The DVB system
appeared to be working perfectly, so it does sound very similar to your own
experience, except I can point to a specific event of my own doing.
Lesson well learnt.
I was showing Ian something, as he was visiting, so maybe sabotage !!!!

Thanks
Douglas.


Re: Missing Segments

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas Deans" <douglas@d...> wrote:
Had visitors today and just back to the computer. I take it
others are seeing quite a number of missing segments since this
afternoon. Seem to be widely scattered.

Regards
Douglas.
My report so far:

Cycle: 0800
msg-ch09, seg: 6
msg-ch10, seg: 6

(ignoring FSD)

Glad to see you have now solved the problem. I wonder if I had the
same issue when I had all the unexplained missing segments? It
might also be interesting to check the Tellique log file.....

Cheers,
David


Missing Segments

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

Peter (and others).
Problem resolved, and a lesson learned.

This afternoon I accidentally exited the DVB programme instead of minimising
it to the Taskbar. I only realised this when I noticed on my processing
computer that no images were coming in. Having realised my mistake, I
re-started the DVB program (with Tellique still running) and all seemed
well. In fact I have been getting about a 10% segment loss.
I restarted everything in sequence and now all is fine.... another step on
the learning curve. Do not go near the DVB program and if you do, restart
in the correct sequence ie. DVB with Tellique off, followed by Tellique on.
Why it behaves in this strange way is anyone's guess, but it does.

Thanks again for your report Peter without which I would have continued
assuming Eumetsat problems, instead of looking a little closer ! (My
apologies to Eumetsat for wicked thoughts !!)

Regards
Douglas.


Re: Missing Segments

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Benney" <tugboat@gotadsl.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Missing Segments


Douglas,

My report for today up to 1900z :-

Date: 2003-10-10
Missing cycles report
0845
Missing segments report
Cycle: 0000
g10-ir all missing
Cycle: 0900
g10-ir all missing
g10-wv all missing
Cycle: 1045
msg-ch07, seg: 5
lrit-ch04, seg: 5
lrit-ch05, seg: 5
lrit-ch09, seg: 5
Cycle: 1500
g9-ir all missing
g9-wv all missing

Peter

Thanks Peter. Since 16.15 here is mine. Wonder what's gone wrong !
Will investigate.
Appreciate the help.
Regards
Douglas


Cycle: 1615
msg-ch01, seg: 6 7
msg-ch03, seg: 3 5 7
msg-ch04, seg: 4
msg-ch07, seg: 5
msg-ch08, seg: 4
msg-ch09, seg: 6
msg-ch10, seg: 4 7
msg-ch11, seg: 2 7
Cycle: 1630
msg-ch03, seg: 5
msg-ch05, seg: 6
msg-ch06, seg: 4
msg-ch10, seg: 7
msg-ch11, seg: 4 6
Cycle: 1645
msg-ch01, seg: 3 5
msg-ch02, seg: 5
msg-ch03, seg: 3
msg-ch05, seg: 7
msg-ch06, seg: 3 4 5
msg-ch07, seg: 1 4
msg-ch09, seg: 6
msg-ch10, seg: 3
msg-ch11, seg: 2
lrit-ch01, seg: 1 3 4
lrit-ch03, seg: 1 3 4
lrit-ch04, seg: 1
lrit-ch05, seg: 1
lrit-ch09, seg: 1
Cycle: 1700
msg-ch04, seg: 1
msg-ch10, seg: 8
msg-ch11, seg: 1
Cycle: 1715
msg-ch01, seg: 1 5
msg-ch04, seg: 6
msg-ch05, seg: 7
msg-ch06, seg: 6
msg-ch07, seg: 7
msg-ch10, seg: 2 4
Cycle: 1730
msg-ch02, seg: 6
msg-ch03, seg: 5
msg-ch04, seg: 6 7
msg-ch06, seg: 4 6
msg-ch07, seg: 8
msg-ch08, seg: 8
msg-ch09, seg: 5
msg-ch10, seg: 8
msg-ch11, seg: 6
Cycle: 1745
msg-ch01, seg: 6 7
msg-ch02, seg: 2 8
msg-ch03, seg: 4 5 8
msg-ch06, seg: 3 5 6
msg-ch07, seg: 6 7
msg-ch08, seg: 3 5 8
msg-ch09, seg: 2 3
msg-ch10, seg: 3 4 7
msg-ch12, seg: 5
lrit-ch01, seg: 3 4
lrit-ch03, seg: 3 4
lrit-ch05, seg: 3
Cycle: 1800
msg-ch01, seg: 3 8
msg-ch03, seg: 1 2 4
msg-ch04, seg: 1 7 8
msg-ch05, seg: 3
msg-ch06, seg: 2 3
msg-ch07, seg: 4
msg-ch08, seg: 3 5
msg-ch10, seg: 3
msg-ch11, seg: 2 7
g10-vis, seg: 3 4
g10-ir, seg: 1 2
Cycle: 1815
msg-ch01, seg: 5
msg-ch02, seg: 2 4
msg-ch03, seg: 3 4
msg-ch04, seg: 2 4 7
msg-ch05, seg: 2
msg-ch07, seg: 1 2 5 7
msg-ch08, seg: 4 5 7
msg-ch09, seg: 1 4 5
msg-ch10, seg: 7
msg-ch11, seg: 3
Cycle: 1830
msg-ch06, seg: 5
msg-ch08, seg: 3
msg-ch10, seg: 1
msg-ch11, seg: 3
Cycle: 1845
msg-ch03, seg: 2
msg-ch06, seg: 3
msg-ch07, seg: 7
msg-ch11, seg: 2
Cycle: 1915
msg-ch03, seg: 3 6
msg-ch04, seg: 1
msg-ch05, seg: 4
msg-ch06, seg: 2
msg-ch07, seg: 1 4
msg-ch10, seg: 2 7
msg-ch11, seg: 4
lrit-ch01, seg: 4 5
lrit-ch03, seg: 4 5
lrit-ch04, seg: 4
lrit-ch09, seg: 5


Re: Missing Segments

Peter Benney <tugboat@...>
 

Douglas,

My report for today up to 1900z :-

Date: 2003-10-10
Missing cycles report
0845
Missing segments report
Cycle: 0000
g10-ir all missing
Cycle: 0900
g10-ir all missing
g10-wv all missing
Cycle: 1045
msg-ch07, seg: 5
lrit-ch04, seg: 5
lrit-ch05, seg: 5
lrit-ch09, seg: 5
Cycle: 1500
g9-ir all missing
g9-wv all missing

Peter


Missing Segments

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

Had visitors today and just back to the computer. I take it others are
seeing quite a number of missing segments since this afternoon. Seem to be
widely scattered.

Regards
Douglas.


Re: Apologies

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:10 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: Apologies


--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Ian S Deans" <ian@i...> wrote:
David,

I thought that the program handled the missing segment problem at
11.30 UTC pretty well.

Yes, it did the best it could. I was half hoping those missing
segments could come in really late so they could be recorded as well
and truly late! Still waiting for normal service to be resumed
right now.....

Cheers,
David
To my mind it acted perfectly. Those segments were never sent. I know you
are very talented but even you can't fix that !

Regards
Douglas.


Re: Apologies

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Ian S Deans" <ian@i...> wrote:
David,

I thought that the program handled the missing segment problem at
11.30 UTC pretty well.

Yes, it did the best it could. I was half hoping those missing
segments could come in really late so they could be recorded as well
and truly late! Still waiting for normal service to be resumed
right now.....

Cheers,
David


Re: Apologies

Ian S Deans <ian@...>
 

David,

I thought that the program handled the missing segment problem at 11.30 UTC
pretty well. I know this is probably wrong, but the impression I got was
that the program waited to see if it was a late segment problem and at a
particular point in the next cycle decided the segments were missing and
saved the images on the 11.30 cycle accordingly. Seems a very reasonable way
of dealing with the problem.

Regards

Ian

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: Apologies


--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Ian S Deans" <ian@i...> wrote:
Sorry -- that last message should have gone through the SatSignal
group -- so many groups !!

Well, at least it was talking about MSG-1 software, and the issues
that the dissemination of data have caused. I saw the program could
not handle completely missing segments, though, such as happened at
1130.

Cheers,
David


Re: Apologies

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Ian S Deans" <ian@i...> wrote:
Sorry -- that last message should have gone through the SatSignal
group -- so many groups !!

Well, at least it was talking about MSG-1 software, and the issues
that the dissemination of data have caused. I saw the program could
not handle completely missing segments, though, such as happened at
1130.

Cheers,
David