----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Marnoch
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MSG-1] Re: Problems with SkyStar card


Is it possible that the problems with the card are linked to the mobo/chipset?
I think the card requires a lot of power from the mobo and if the chipset can't deliver then there are problems. I have no basis in fact for this except that I had an adsl modem (usb) that just would not work with my then abit kt7 mobo as the via chipset could not deliver enough power.
For myself the skystar card has been flawless in my original machine and in the upgraded machine it is in now. My only problem was man (me) made and was sorted quickly.

Hugh

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On 16/09/2003 at 17:50 John Parkins wrote:

>Hello Dave,
>
>You have to remember Dave just because you have only sold 100 that
>doesn't represent the total world wide sale of these cards. There are
>far more people than you suggest who are having problems with this
>card, not only on various Yahoo list but also on usenet and other
>forums there have been complaint after complaint. Remember this card
>is not only used for the purpose we want it for.
>
>You have to admit a slightly bias view of things, after all you are
>trying to sell them but then I'm a professional computer engineer and
>so far, admittedly with the same card, I score 2 out of 4 for semi
>successful installations.
>
>Even the manufacturer admits to there being problems with some
>chipsets. So yes it might be as easy as following a few easy
>instructions, but then again it might not be.
>
>Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 5:17:08 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>T> From: Dave Cawley
>T> Timestep Dartmouth England
>T> e-mail Information@Time-step.com
>T> Web site http://www.Time-step.com
>T> Tel. +44 (0)1803 833366
>T> Fax. +44 (0)1803 839498
>
>T> There are about 3 people on all lists who cannot get their system
>working,
>T> this leaves about 97 who have ! You must follow the instructions.
>
>T> In common with a lot of plug and play devices, if you move the card you
>will
>T> have problems.
>
>T> David, any idea of the total number of downloads of your software ?
>
>T> Regards
>
>T> Dave
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On 16/09/2003 at 17:50 John Parkins wrote:

Hello Dave,

You have to remember Dave just because you have only sold 100 that
doesn't represent the total world wide sale of these cards. There are
far more people than you suggest who are having problems with this
card, not only on various Yahoo list but also on usenet and other
forums there have been complaint after complaint. Remember this card
is not only used for the purpose we want it for.

You have to admit a slightly bias view of things, after all you are
trying to sell them but then I'm a professional computer engineer and
so far, admittedly with the same card, I score 2 out of 4 for semi
successful installations.

Even the manufacturer admits to there being problems with some
chipsets. So yes it might be as easy as following a few easy
instructions, but then again it might not be.

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 5:17:08 PM, you wrote:


T> From: Dave Cawley
T> Timestep Dartmouth England
T> e-mail Information@Time-step.com
T> Web site http://www.Time-step.com
T> Tel. +44 (0)1803 833366
T> Fax. +44 (0)1803 839498

T> There are about 3 people on all lists who cannot get their system
working,
T> this leaves about 97 who have ! You must follow the instructions.

T> In common with a lot of plug and play devices, if you move the card you
will
T> have problems.

T> David, any idea of the total number of downloads of your software ?

T> Regards

T> Dave



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----- Original Message -----
From: Trevor David
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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MSG-1] Problems with SkyStar card


Hi

I have a card but have not fitted it yet as I am waiting until all the problems have been solved and the bird is stable along with the soft ware. All I want to do is plug it in, install soft ware and go. I admire those who are into the development and tuning but it is not for me.

Trevor

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Trevor David" <tdavid@dsl.pipex.com>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MSG-1] Problems with SkyStar card

Hi

I have a card but have not fitted it yet as I am waiting until all the

problems have been solved and the bird is stable along with the soft ware.
All I want to do is plug it in, install soft ware and go. I admire those who
are into the development and tuning but it is not for me.

Trevor

Don't be put off Trevor. The majority of people , including myself, just
stuck in the card, read the instructions from Tellique and have never had
the slightest problem.
I have used it, initially, in a one computer set-up, soon followed by the
recommended 2 arrangement without any problems.
Of course we have to learn about the programs and associated software but as
every computer and set-up is unique I think that is unavoidable,
particularly considering both the quantity and size of data.
...and of course we are all here to help as we have been helped in the past.

Regards
Douglas.

----- Original Message -----
From: Guy Martin
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MSG-1] Problems with SkyStar card


It seems to me that there is a batch of cards with faulty chips. Some people like myself have had no problems while others are fitting fans etc. As far as I am concerned if a card runs so hot that it shuts down then it is faulty and should be returned. Mine runs on an Abit board with an 800MHz duron, maybe processor speed is a factor and collating information from those whose cards don't work v. those that do may shed some light.
Regarding drivers, if the present ones work why update unless the new ones promise something better especially as the card is designed primarily for tv.

Regards, Guy

----- Original Message -----
From: John Parkins
To: Trevor David
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [MSG-1] Problems with SkyStar card


Hello Trevor,

Well I assume the writer of the updated drivers was after the normal
things, to be more stable, more functionality etc etc. But what he came up
with was a set of drivers which caused computer hesitations and the
loss of data, so DON'T use them.

Quite agree about the card. There is an attempt at cooling, a very small
heatsink on one of the chips, but mine runs hot. Thus I stuck the fan
on to help out. But as I said before this is the most temperamental
card I have ever put in a computer. So far I have had this thing in
four different computers, all with completely different hardware. I
have only managed to get it running in two of them and so far only
semi-reliably in one (apart from what I assume is a heat problem).
At first I thought it might be down to the motherboard chipset, one
that it failed to run in at all had a VIA chipset, but this was proved
to be wrong when the one it ran in reliably also had a VIA chipset!

Still the battle goes on..........

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 11:06:03 AM, you wrote:

TD> Hi

TD> Can you tell us what the upgrade is supposed to do? apart from giving problems.

TD> If this card runs that hot then I would assume that there is
TD> a design fault with it. In my past life (as a QA auditer for MoD)
TD> when working any thing that run that hot for it to stop working
TD> would have been rejected and a new design required.

TD> Trevor

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----- Original Message -----
From: John Parkins
To: Trevor David
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [MSG-1] Problems with SkyStar card


Hello Trevor,

Well I assume the writer of the updated drivers was after the normal
things, to be more stable, more functionality etc etc. But what he came up
with was a set of drivers which caused computer hesitations and the
loss of data, so DON'T use them.

Quite agree about the card. There is an attempt at cooling, a very small
heatsink on one of the chips, but mine runs hot. Thus I stuck the fan
on to help out. But as I said before this is the most temperamental
card I have ever put in a computer. So far I have had this thing in
four different computers, all with completely different hardware. I
have only managed to get it running in two of them and so far only
semi-reliably in one (apart from what I assume is a heat problem).
At first I thought it might be down to the motherboard chipset, one
that it failed to run in at all had a VIA chipset, but this was proved
to be wrong when the one it ran in reliably also had a VIA chipset!

Still the battle goes on..........

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 11:06:03 AM, you wrote:

TD> Hi

TD> Can you tell us what the upgrade is supposed to do? apart from giving problems.

TD> If this card runs that hot then I would assume that there is
TD> a design fault with it. In my past life (as a QA auditer for MoD)
TD> when working any thing that run that hot for it to stop working
TD> would have been rejected and a new design required.

TD> Trevor

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