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Re: MPEF Files

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

somehow we don't seem to be receiving any MPEF products. Does anyone
know what channel they are on? And where is the FSD? Extra registration
required?
We are currently receiving data channels 1 and 2 and CH-MSG-HRIT-*.

Any hints much appreciated.
You need data channel 3, please see:

http://www.david-taylor.myby.co.uk/wxsat/atovs/index.html

If you are using the MSG Data Manager, please ensure that data from both
channels 2 and 3 is saved to a common folder.

I don't know what the licence situation will be with MPEF products, sorry.
The CTH one is currently available free on WEFAX.

David


Re: MPEF Files

Jan Cermak <jc_groups@...>
 

Dear all,

somehow we don't seem to be receiving any MPEF products. Does anyone know what channel they are on? And where is the FSD? Extra registration required?
We are currently receiving data channels 1 and 2 and CH-MSG-HRIT-*.

Any hints much appreciated.

Regards,
Jan



Peter Benney wrote:

Since 1458z today I have a series of MPEF files in my received directory. I have not seen these before.

L-000-MSG1-MPEF-CLM-000001-200310211500

Some are CLM, TH, TOZ, CLA, CTH, AMV and CLAI.

Peter




Re: MPEF Files

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Moore" <rsmoore@liverpool.ac.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] MPEF Files


Douglas, David - sorry to sound so ignorant, but are we able to open these
files
with our existing software?

Robert

No, not with existing software.
I can't answer for future possibilities !

Douglas.


Re: MPEF Files

Robert Moore
 

Douglas, David - sorry to sound so ignorant, but are we able to open these files
with our existing software?

Robert


Quoting Douglas Deans <douglas@dsdeans.freeserve.co.uk>:


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Benney" <tugboat@gotadsl.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:40 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] MPEF Files


Since 1458z today I have a series of MPEF files in my received directory.
I have not seen these before.

L-000-MSG1-MPEF-CLM-000001-200310211500

Some are CLM, TH, TOZ, CLA, CTH, AMV and CLAI.

Peter
Yes this is the start of the MPEF meteorological products as was advised by
Eumetsat. I am not clear as to whether we will continue to receive this
data although (unlike MDD) there seems no reason (although I did not select
it on my registration). For more info. on the products see Eumetsat TD 11.
Previous wefax users will of course recognise the CTH (cloud top heights)
named product as this was sent on channel 2.

Regards
Douglas.




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Re: North American images

Robert Moore
 

David, it was in GSS - and I was able to recreate the error a number of times,
usiong both View tab and File|Open one. But after dinner (2030 BST) the
outlines registered correctly. Strange.

Robert



Quoting David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk>:

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, Robert Moore <rsmoore@l...> wrote:
Am I alone in having the data for N. American via FSD not
registering with the
country outlines? USA seems to be off the globe (no comment!)
Robert
In what program? Clciking the current GOES-E image in the MSG Data
Manager produces a perfect country boundary overlay for me....

Cheers,
David



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Professor Robert Moore
Department of Sociology, Social Policy
and Social Work Studies
The University of Liverpool
Eleanor Rathbone Building
Bedford Street South
Liverpool
L69 7ZA

tel and fax: 44 (0) 1352 714456


Hot Bird

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

Hot Bird transponder 11096 down again. No Eumetcast or TV programs on the
transponder from about 19.02 UTC

Douglas


Re: North American images

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, Robert Moore <rsmoore@l...> wrote:
Am I alone in having the data for N. American via FSD not
registering with the
country outlines? USA seems to be off the globe (no comment!)
Robert
In what program? Clciking the current GOES-E image in the MSG Data
Manager produces a perfect country boundary overlay for me....

Cheers,
David


North American images

Robert Moore
 

Am I alone in having the data for N. American via FSD not registering with the
country outlines? USA seems to be off the globe (no comment!)
Robert



------------------------------
Professor Robert Moore
Department of Sociology, Social Policy
and Social Work Studies
The University of Liverpool
Eleanor Rathbone Building
Bedford Street South
Liverpool
L69 7ZA

tel and fax: 44 (0) 1352 714456


Re: MPEF Files

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Benney" <tugboat@gotadsl.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:40 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] MPEF Files


Since 1458z today I have a series of MPEF files in my received directory.
I have not seen these before.

L-000-MSG1-MPEF-CLM-000001-200310211500

Some are CLM, TH, TOZ, CLA, CTH, AMV and CLAI.

Peter
Yes this is the start of the MPEF meteorological products as was advised by
Eumetsat. I am not clear as to whether we will continue to receive this
data although (unlike MDD) there seems no reason (although I did not select
it on my registration). For more info. on the products see Eumetsat TD 11.
Previous wefax users will of course recognise the CTH (cloud top heights)
named product as this was sent on channel 2.

Regards
Douglas.


MPEF Files

Peter Benney <tugboat@...>
 

Since 1458z today I have a series of MPEF files in my received directory. I have not seen these before.

L-000-MSG1-MPEF-CLM-000001-200310211500

Some are CLM, TH, TOZ, CLA, CTH, AMV and CLAI.

Peter


Re: What's in a name.

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Deans" <douglas@dsdeans.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] What's in a name.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Trevor David" <tdavid@dsl.pipex.com>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] What's in a name.



----- Original Message -----
From: James Brown
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] What's in a name.


In message <001501c397d9$b2ee87a0$0100a8c0@douglas>, Douglas Deans
<douglas@dsdeans.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>Perhaps someone will explain to me someday why Eumetsat refer to
scans
as
>repeat cycles in their messages.
>Would it not be better to just say, for example, scan 11.30 rather
than
>repeat cycle 11.30. What is it that is being repeated. (other than
another
>'x' revolutions of the satellite). Repeat seems to suggest it is
data
sent
>before... it certainly is not that.
>
>Regards
>Douglas.

Very strange Douglas, when I came back in this afternoon and saw the
messages I thought exactly the same thing - but then I thought - oh
what
an ignoramus I must be, obviously everyone else knows why - well
except
you Douglas - so now there are two of us!!

Cheers,
James
--
James Brown
No make that three
regards

trevor

Sorry Trevor, in the excitement of not being alone I accidentally re-sent
your reply back to the group.
Dangerous stuff being on-line.

Douglas.


Re: What's in a name.

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Trevor David" <tdavid@dsl.pipex.com>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] What's in a name.



----- Original Message -----
From: James Brown
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] What's in a name.


In message <001501c397d9$b2ee87a0$0100a8c0@douglas>, Douglas Deans
<douglas@dsdeans.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>Perhaps someone will explain to me someday why Eumetsat refer to scans
as
>repeat cycles in their messages.
>Would it not be better to just say, for example, scan 11.30 rather than
>repeat cycle 11.30. What is it that is being repeated. (other than
another
>'x' revolutions of the satellite). Repeat seems to suggest it is data
sent
>before... it certainly is not that.
>
>Regards
>Douglas.

Very strange Douglas, when I came back in this afternoon and saw the
messages I thought exactly the same thing - but then I thought - oh what
an ignoramus I must be, obviously everyone else knows why - well except
you Douglas - so now there are two of us!!

Cheers,
James
--
James Brown
No make that three
regards

trevor



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Re: What's in a name.

Trevor David <tdavid@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: James Brown
To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] What's in a name.


In message <001501c397d9$b2ee87a0$0100a8c0@douglas>, Douglas Deans
<douglas@dsdeans.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>Perhaps someone will explain to me someday why Eumetsat refer to scans as
>repeat cycles in their messages.
>Would it not be better to just say, for example, scan 11.30 rather than
>repeat cycle 11.30. What is it that is being repeated. (other than another
>'x' revolutions of the satellite). Repeat seems to suggest it is data sent
>before... it certainly is not that.
>
>Regards
>Douglas.

Very strange Douglas, when I came back in this afternoon and saw the
messages I thought exactly the same thing - but then I thought - oh what
an ignoramus I must be, obviously everyone else knows why - well except
you Douglas - so now there are two of us!!

Cheers,
James
--
James Brown
No make that three
regards

trevor



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Re: What's in a name.

James Brown <james@...>
 

In message <001501c397d9$b2ee87a0$0100a8c0@douglas>, Douglas Deans <douglas@dsdeans.freeserve.co.uk> writes
Perhaps someone will explain to me someday why Eumetsat refer to scans as
repeat cycles in their messages.
Would it not be better to just say, for example, scan 11.30 rather than
repeat cycle 11.30. What is it that is being repeated. (other than another
'x' revolutions of the satellite). Repeat seems to suggest it is data sent
before... it certainly is not that.

Regards
Douglas.
Very strange Douglas, when I came back in this afternoon and saw the messages I thought exactly the same thing - but then I thought - oh what an ignoramus I must be, obviously everyone else knows why - well except you Douglas - so now there are two of us!!

Cheers,
James
--
James Brown


What's in a name.

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

Perhaps someone will explain to me someday why Eumetsat refer to scans as
repeat cycles in their messages.
Would it not be better to just say, for example, scan 11.30 rather than
repeat cycle 11.30. What is it that is being repeated. (other than another
'x' revolutions of the satellite). Repeat seems to suggest it is data sent
before... it certainly is not that.

Regards
Douglas.


Re: Tellique under Win 98SE?

a_van_belle
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
The file system full problem is repeated here in a dedicated 7GB
partition for Tellique gathering raw data under Win 98SE, so even
ensuring adequate free space of 200MB is not a cure.

73 de Wayne M5WJF
.. to handle a large number of files properly, particularly when
they have long file names, you need NTFS.

Cheers,
David
David is right Wayne,
I almost forgot the most important drawback of W98 (that is FAT32 in
general): You can only store 10.292 files with long filenames in one
folder on this file system !

With the current MSG dissemination that is less than a day's raw data.
Alternatively you could schedule a "copy to subfolder" command to
prevent the file system full messages.

When installing W2K or XP don't be tempted to choose the non-default
FAT32 instead of NTFS !

A word about memory, most PC's also except PC133 memory, more
important is to look up in the manual if it needs to be double sided
or single sided memory. I use a PC that does not exept double sided,
so I am left using only 2 x 128 MB because 256 MB DIMMs just count up
to 128 mB !

Greetings,
Arne van Belle


Re: Tellique under Win 98SE?

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Well someone had to look at the cheaper alternatives for a two PC
system to gather the data, Hi!
It depands how you value your time!

I'm tempted to consider XP Home instead of XP Pro, since Trevor
G0JIX around the corner is happy with this on a single PC system.
.. and I don't hink he's the only one with Home. Should be fine.
Can't you get a discounted Windows 2000 Pro cheaper, though?

I do like the few extras provided under the Pro version I have
here
though, if anyone has any PC100 lying about (128MB or greater per
stick) unused after a DDR upgrade, please drop me a line!
73,
David


Re: Tellique under Win 98SE?

M5WJF <m5wjf.qthr@...>
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:

.. to handle a large number of files properly, particularly when
they have long file names, you need NTFS.

Cheers,
David
Hi David,

Well someone had to look at the cheaper alternatives for a two PC
system to gather the data, Hi!

I'm tempted to consider XP Home instead of XP Pro, since Trevor
G0JIX around the corner is happy with this on a single PC system.

I do like the few extras provided under the Pro version I have here
though, if anyone has any PC100 lying about (128MB or greater per
stick) unused after a DDR upgrade, please drop me a line!

73 de Wayne M5WJF


Re: Tellique under Win 98SE?

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

The file system full problem is repeated here in a dedicated 7GB
partition for Tellique gathering raw data under Win 98SE, so even
ensuring adequate free space of 200MB is not a cure.

73 de Wayne M5WJF
.. to handle a large number of files properly, particularly when
they have long file names, you need NTFS.

Cheers,
David


Re: Tellique under Win 98SE?

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Seems another copy of XP is required :-(

Hope that 256MB of PC100 is enough for XP, following your other
comments regarding minimum spec.

73 de Wayne M5WJF
.. or Windows 2000. I would regard 256MB as tight, and would
recommend an install of Windows 2000 (preferred because of lower
memory consumption) or XP with the minimum possible options.

Cheers,
David