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Re: BDADataEx

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

I am presently considering changing my set-up from an SR1 and TBS 5925
to a TBS 5925 and TBS 5927.

Ordinarily it would make sense to use the TBS IP tool for one receiver
and BDADataEx for the other, but the IP tool is not stable on my
computer causing intermittent crashes. It would therefore be necessary
to use two BDADataEx and I was wondering if this was possible and if
someone could point me in the right direction to set this up.

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Ian.
=================================

Ian,

CrazyCat is the obvious expert here, but I have a 5=5925 and 5927 so I can have a play for you.

Cheers,
David
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Re: renaming MSG Data Manager

Ferdinand Valk
 

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Sent: Saturday, 08 September, 2018 12:41
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] renaming MSG Data Manager

I remember this has been addressed before but could not find it back.

Over time I have named my various DMs MSG-1-DM,MSG-2-DM etc. I now
want to get rid of the number and would like to move to for example MSG-
IODC and MSG-RSS irrespective of the satellite being used. How to relate
all
settings to the new program name without having to enter all afresh?
The latter would be very time consuming over several machines, error prone
and disruptive for service.

Any suggestion or pointer would be welcome.

Cheers,
Ferdinand Valk
====================================

Ferdinand,

All settings are held in the registry against the program's name, so one
suggestion might be:

- create a master directory with the current version.

- stop the MSG Data Manager to be updated.

- copy from the master to the new name you want, in essence:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
REM Script to update the IODC data manager CD \Location-for-IODC-instance\
copy C:\\Master\MsgDataManager.chm MsgDataManager-IODC.chm
copy C:\Master\MsgDataManager.*.lng MsgDataManager-IODC.*.lng
copy C:\Master\MsgDataManager.exe MsgDataManager-IODC.exe
pause
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rename the registry key pointing to the old instance to the executable
name
for the new instance:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\David J Taylor\MSG-1-DM
to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\David J Taylor\MsgDataManager-IODC

Check that everything is OK before starting the new instance.

You might wonder about rename, and if you're doing things manually that
might be OK, but I've found that the logic behind automated rename with
wildcards isn't what you might always expect! Having a command script
like
that above may make future updates easier.

Good luck!

Cheers,
David
==============================
David,

Thanks for the speedy response. The single line in the registry did the
trick. I expected more locations to be involved. The renaming of the program
files themselves was already automated. All working well with minimum
disruption.

Thanks again.

Cheers,
Ferdinand


BDADataEx

Ian Deans
 

I am presently considering changing my set-up from an SR1 and TBS 5925 to a TBS 5925 and TBS 5927.

Ordinarily it would make sense to use the TBS IP tool for one receiver and BDADataEx for the other, but the IP tool is not stable on my computer causing intermittent crashes. It would therefore be necessary to use two BDADataEx and I was wondering if this was possible and if someone could point me in the right direction to set this up.

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Ian.


Re: renaming MSG Data Manager

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

I remember this has been addressed before but could not find it back.

Over time I have named my various DMs MSG-1-DM,MSG-2-DM etc. I now want to
get rid of the number and would like to move to for example MSG-IODC and
MSG-RSS irrespective of the satellite being used. How to relate all settings
to the new program name without having to enter all afresh?
The latter would be very time consuming over several machines, error prone
and disruptive for service.

Any suggestion or pointer would be welcome.

Cheers,
Ferdinand Valk
====================================

Ferdinand,

All settings are held in the registry against the program's name, so one suggestion might be:

- create a master directory with the current version.

- stop the MSG Data Manager to be updated.

- copy from the master to the new name you want, in essence:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
REM Script to update the IODC data manager
CD \Location-for-IODC-instance\
copy C:\\Master\MsgDataManager.chm MsgDataManager-IODC.chm
copy C:\Master\MsgDataManager.*.lng MsgDataManager-IODC.*.lng
copy C:\Master\MsgDataManager.exe MsgDataManager-IODC.exe
pause
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rename the registry key pointing to the old instance to the executable name for the new instance:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\David J Taylor\MSG-1-DM
to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\David J Taylor\MsgDataManager-IODC

Check that everything is OK before starting the new instance.

You might wonder about rename, and if you're doing things manually that might be OK, but I've found that the logic behind automated rename with wildcards isn't what you might always expect! Having a command script like that above may make future updates easier.

Good luck!

Cheers,
David
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renaming MSG Data Manager

Ferdinand Valk
 

I remember this has been addressed before but could not find it back.

Over time I have named my various DMs MSG-1-DM,MSG-2-DM etc. I now want to
get rid of the number and would like to move to for example MSG-IODC and
MSG-RSS irrespective of the satellite being used. How to relate all settings
to the new program name without having to enter all afresh?
The latter would be very time consuming over several machines, error prone
and disruptive for service.

Any suggestion or pointer would be welcome.

Cheers,
Ferdinand Valk


Re: Amsterdam Show

Alan Sewards
 

Hi John, 
I read your message with interest. Because of similar feelings, I emigrated with my family to Canada in May 1966. We had a wonderful time there and I had a most satisfying career. After I retired in 1998 the Canadian winters were no longer so attractive so we moved to the south of France where the weather is paradisical, there was plenty of room for large antennas, and as we live in a small village devoted to the growing of grapes, we can indulge in wine with meals. We were welcomed by the local community and have had a most satisfying life, supported by the excellent French social security system. 
So go for it John, unless the money side is impossible. Our pensions from the UK and Canada have been hit by the currency variations but we can manage. 


On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:30 geojohnt via Groups.Io, <geojohnt=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
David,

[Sorry All - totally off topic]

Thanks for the link to an interesting article.

Not sure I want an e-residency but I'm seriously investigating the possibility of moving to an EU country before March 19th next year.
Trouble is, when the £ crashes to € 1 my BBC and State pension will look a bit sick.

We can but hope?

Regards,
John.

++++++++++++++++

In a message dated 04/09/2018 11:42:09 GMT Standard Time, gm8arv=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io writes:

A great chance to visit the super city of Tallinn (and perhaps get your
Estonian e-Residency at the same time?).

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/estonia-e-resident


Re: Himawari-8

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Ian,

the easiest way for me is to process the new Himawari data stream with the IODC data manager.
And disabling the Himawari processing at the MSG-4 data Manager.
The E1H-TPG-2 target directoy can be the same as IODC. No copy action is required.
An update for the MSG Data Manager is required to handle the two new channels.

Cheers,
Thorsten
=====================================

Sounds good, Thorsten!

I'm hoping that the two new channels shouldn't be too difficult (although we have no sample files, so I'll need to wait for the day).

I mentioned Robocopy to move as one of my HVS-1 reception PCs is remote on the network. Of course, Robocopy can equally well move the required files from a remote received\E1H-TPG-2 to local received\IODC as well, using your excellent IODC Data Manager suggestion!

Cheers,
David
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Re: Himawari-8

Thorsten Miglus
 

Ian,

the easiest way for me is to process the new Himawari data stream with the IODC data manager.
And disabling the Himawari processing at the MSG-4 data Manager.
The E1H-TPG-2 target directoy can be the same as IODC. No copy action is required.
An update for the MSG Data Manager is required to handle the two new channels.

Cheers,
Thorsten


On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 03:40 PM, Ian Deans wrote:
The news today that 10 minute Himawari-8 data is to be available on TP1 (HVS-1 ) from 12/9/2018 and the existing Himawari data on the basic service will stop early October, will be challenging.

No mention of any change in the files although we will now receive all 16 channels ( presently 14 on basic ).

Not yet considered how to handle this data, although another Data Manager is likely the only solution if it will deal with 10 minute data.
If saving to FSD should allow Animator to be used, although I appreciate an update may be needed.

Regards
Ian.


Re: Himawari-8

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

The news today that 10 minute Himawari-8 data is to be available on TP1
(HVS-1 ) from 12/9/2018 and the existing Himawari data on the basic
service will stop early October, will be challenging.

No mention of any change in the files although we will now receive all
16 channels ( presently 14 on basic ).

Not yet considered how to handle this data, although another Data
Manager is likely the only solution if it will deal with 10 minute data.
If saving to FSD should allow Animator to be used, although I appreciate
an update may be needed.

Regards
Ian.
===================================

Ian,

I'd appreciate knowing what difficulties you envisage (apart from the weak, wider-bandwidth HVS-1 signal!).

I'm envisaging a minor update to the MSG Data Manager, meaning that you should only need a Robocopy task running to copy the relevant files from E1H-TPG-2 to EUMETSAT_Data_Channel_4 (or whatever...). 10-minute updates are already listed in the MSG Animator options for those who run on a separate PC.

Perhaps for testing another, updated, MSG Data Manager would be a good idea, looking purely at E1H-TPG-2.

Cheers,
David
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Himawari-8

Ian Deans
 

The news today that 10 minute Himawari-8 data is to be available on TP1 (HVS-1 ) from 12/9/2018 and the existing Himawari data on the basic service will stop early October, will be challenging.

No mention of any change in the files although we will now receive all 16 channels ( presently 14 on basic ).

Not yet considered how to handle this data, although another Data Manager is likely the only solution if it will deal with 10 minute data.
If saving to FSD should allow Animator to be used, although I appreciate an update may be needed.

Regards
Ian.


Re: Amsterdam Show

geojohnt@...
 

David,

[Sorry All - totally off topic]

Thanks for the link to an interesting article.

Not sure I want an e-residency but I'm seriously investigating the possibility of moving to an EU country before March 19th next year.
Trouble is, when the £ crashes to € 1 my BBC and State pension will look a bit sick.

We can but hope?

Regards,
John.

++++++++++++++++

In a message dated 04/09/2018 11:42:09 GMT Standard Time, gm8arv@... writes:

A great chance to visit the super city of Tallinn (and perhaps get your
Estonian e-Residency at the same time?).

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/estonia-e-resident


Re: Amsterdam Show

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Although a much more focussed conference, not a catch-all show, is our own EUMETSAT User Conference. Highly recommended.

https://www.eumetsat.int/website/home/News/ConferencesandEvents/DAT_3647214.html

"The 2018 EUMETSAT Meteorological Satellite Conference will take place in Tallinn, Estonia, from 17 to 21 September 2018. EUMETSAT will be joined in the organisation and hosting of the event by the Estonian Environment Agency, the national provider for weather and climate services in Estonia."

A great chance to visit the super city of Tallinn (and perhaps get your Estonian e-Residency at the same time?).

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/estonia-e-resident

Cheers,
David
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Re: Amsterdam Show

geojohnt@...
 

Harry,

It's IBC the annual (Broadcast) Media, Entertainment and Technology Show held every year at RAI having previously, many years ago, been held annually in Brighton.
Lots of big dishes and 'gear.'

https://www.ibc.org/

Best wishes,
John.

Oh, and, Meteorology Technology International Wold Expo 2018, will be held again this year at RAI on October 9 - 11.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++

In a message dated 01/09/2018 13:06:04 GMT Standard Time, mikeg4cfz@... writes:

Hi yes its the RAI Exhibition in Amsterdam 14-18th September and their stand is C69 and Bob Liu (the boss) will be in attendance. Mike


Re: Amsterdam Show

Harry H. Arends
 

This the link tot he veneu: https://show.ibc.org/

 

 

Van: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> Namens stevens312
Verzonden: zaterdag 1 september 2018 14:06
Aan: MSG-1@groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [MSG-1] Amsterdam Show

 

Hi yes its the RAI Exhibition in Amsterdam 14-18th September and their stand is C69 and Bob Liu (the boss) will be in attendance. Mike


Re: Amsterdam Show

stevens312
 

Hi yes its the RAI Exhibition in Amsterdam 14-18th September and their stand is C69 and Bob Liu (the boss) will be in attendance. Mike


Re: Amsterdam Show

Harry H. Arends
 

Hi Mike,

 

Do you have more information about that show. Amsterdam ia a large city and hosts many shows during the year around.

 

Harry

 

Van: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> Namens stevens312
Verzonden: zaterdag 1 september 2018 12:39
Aan: MSG-1@groups.io
Onderwerp: [MSG-1] Amsterdam Show

 

Hi guys, anyone going to the above exhibition, TBS will be on site showing all the new Tuners, and may even be handing out some samples, there is a new one just come out TBS-6909X Octa Tuner PCIE Card able to receive 8 Transponders, which I am testing at the moment, so if you are going enjoy the show. Regards to all, Mike G4CFZ.


Amsterdam Show

stevens312
 

Hi guys, anyone going to the above exhibition, TBS will be on site showing all the new Tuners, and may even be handing out some samples, there is a new one just come out TBS-6909X Octa Tuner PCIE Card able to receive 8 Transponders, which I am testing at the moment, so if you are going enjoy the show. Regards to all, Mike G4CFZ.


Re: Unencrypted Eumetcast ?

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

As far as I know you always need an EKU. Some time ago this wasn't necessary for essential data, but that has been changed.

Rob.
===========================

Rob,

Thanks! Better check with EUMETSAT and if necessary they can update their Web page to clarify the need for an eToken. It's been a long time since I tried the "open" password!

Cheers,
David
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Re: Unencrypted Eumetcast ?

R. Alblas
 

As far as I know you always need an EKU. Some time ago this wasn't necessary for essential data, but that has been changed.

Rob.

On 08/31/2018 05:41 PM, David J Taylor via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Hugo,
From memory the 'essential' timeslots can be received without the EKU. These
are every three hours (00:00,03:00,etc UTC). I've found that quite useful for testing new reception systems in the past but something may have changed, not tried the non-EKU data in a couple of years. I also think you still need a username/password - so it might be worth asking OPS about that.

Cheers,
Simon
======================================

Both,

Section B.1.1 of the trouble-shooting guide gives the generic username and password for the non-encrypted data.

https://www.eumetsat.int/website/home/Data/DataDelivery/EUMETCast/ReceptionStationSetup/Troubleshooting/index.html

Cheers,
David


Re: Unencrypted Eumetcast ?

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi Hugo,
From memory the 'essential' timeslots can be received without the EKU. These are every three hours (00:00,03:00,etc UTC). I've found that quite useful for testing new reception systems in the past but something may have changed, not tried the non-EKU data in a couple of years. I also think you still need a username/password - so it might be worth asking OPS about that.

Cheers,
Simon
======================================

Both,

Section B.1.1 of the trouble-shooting guide gives the generic username and password for the non-encrypted data.

https://www.eumetsat.int/website/home/Data/DataDelivery/EUMETCast/ReceptionStationSetup/Troubleshooting/index.html

Cheers,
David
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