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Re: Atlantic hurricanes.

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

I quite agree. The decision not to include GOES E in the Basic Service seems perverse. And it's time to recognise that the HVS services will never find a wide audience with the practical limitations imposed by the low EIRP.
Alan Sewards
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To be correct, I believe the ERP of the BS and HVS-1 is the same, but the use of 16APSK and the higher data rate is what causes the lower SNR. Actually we are a little bit better off now that the HVS-1 has moved from TP2 to TP1 which is slightly stronger. Having said that, another couple a dB signal would be very welcome in Scotland!

GOES-W will also be moving to the HVS when GOES-17 data is released.

Thanks to Nigel we know there are other sources (providing you have an Internet connection).

Cheers,
David
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Re: BDADataEx

stevens312
 

Ian that should work out ok, I have a spare TBS-5927 if you get any problems and a spare TBS-6903. Regards, Mike.


Re: Atlantic hurricanes.

nigel
 

On 11/09/2018 14:53, geojohnt via Groups.Io wrote:
Mmmmmm!

I suspect I'm not the only one annoyed at the (earlier) termination of GOES E data from EUMETCast's Basic Service this year?

Currently three active hurricanes in the Atlantic - one massive closing in on the East Coast of America.
I would have thought that these storms - and the increasingly changing world weather, was certainly valid to be  included in a full worldwide Basic Service as before.

Not happy!

Regards,
John Tellick.




I should also have mentioned that hourly images are available at -

https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/index.php 

These can be downloaded, if required, using wget, for example.

Regards

Nigel



Re: Atlantic hurricanes.

simonproud <simon.proud@...>
 

I think it's worth remembering that EUMETSAT, first and foremost, cater to meteorological agencies that are likely to have extensive satellite reception facilities. Whilst annoying for those of us with lesser reception stations it is entirely understandable, IMO. Most on this forum get the data for free, after all. To my knowledge the GOES-E data simply can't fit on the basic service.

Cheers,
Simon

On 11 September 2018 at 13:08, Alan Sewards <alan@...> wrote:
I quite agree. The decision not to include GOES E in the Basic Service seems perverse. And it's time to recognise that the HVS services will never find a wide audience with the practical limitations imposed by the low EIRP. 
Alan Sewards 

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:53 geojohnt via Groups.Io, <geojohnt=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Mmmmmm!

I suspect I'm not the only one annoyed at the (earlier) termination of GOES E data from EUMETCast's Basic Service this year?

Currently three active hurricanes in the Atlantic - one massive closing in on the East Coast of America.
I would have thought that these storms - and the increasingly changing world weather, was certainly valid to be  included in a full worldwide Basic Service as before.

Not happy!

Regards,
John Tellick.







Re: Atlantic hurricanes.

nigel
 

On 11/09/2018 14:53, geojohnt via Groups.Io wrote:
Mmmmmm!

I suspect I'm not the only one annoyed at the (earlier) termination of GOES E data from EUMETCast's Basic Service this year?

Currently three active hurricanes in the Atlantic - one massive closing in on the East Coast of America.
I would have thought that these storms - and the increasingly changing world weather, was certainly valid to be  included in a full worldwide Basic Service as before.

Not happy!

Regards,
John Tellick.





_._,_._,_

By coincidence, I was in communication with Debbie, at Ops this morning, asking if she knew of a site I could download GOES E (GOES 16) images from and she pointed me to :-

http://rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu/?sat=goes-16&sec=full_disk&x=10848&y=10848&z=0&im=12&ts=1&st=0&et=0&speed=130&motion=loop&map=1&lat=0&p%5B0%5D=16&opacity%5B0%5D=1&hidden%5B0%5D=0&pause=0&slider=-1&hide_controls=0&mouse_draw=0&s=rammb-slider

I realise it is not as "satisfying" as receiving the data directly and decoding it, etc. etc. but at least one can watch the progress of the hurricanes!

She also pointed out that that site has GOES 17 images, albeit a bit behind GOES 16 images.

Well worth a look.

Hope that helps

Nigel


Re: Boundary data

Ferdinand Valk
 

-----Original Message-----
From: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> On Behalf Of David J Taylor via
Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September, 2018 10:18
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Boundary data

Fixed in beta 1145, just uploaded. My fault.

Cheers,
David.
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Thanks for the solution David. Now working fine.

Cheers,
Ferdinand


Re: Atlantic hurricanes.

Alan Sewards
 

I quite agree. The decision not to include GOES E in the Basic Service seems perverse. And it's time to recognise that the HVS services will never find a wide audience with the practical limitations imposed by the low EIRP. 
Alan Sewards 


On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:53 geojohnt via Groups.Io, <geojohnt=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Mmmmmm!

I suspect I'm not the only one annoyed at the (earlier) termination of GOES E data from EUMETCast's Basic Service this year?

Currently three active hurricanes in the Atlantic - one massive closing in on the East Coast of America.
I would have thought that these storms - and the increasingly changing world weather, was certainly valid to be  included in a full worldwide Basic Service as before.

Not happy!

Regards,
John Tellick.






Atlantic hurricanes.

geojohnt@...
 

Mmmmmm!

I suspect I'm not the only one annoyed at the (earlier) termination of GOES E data from EUMETCast's Basic Service this year?

Currently three active hurricanes in the Atlantic - one massive closing in on the East Coast of America.
I would have thought that these storms - and the increasingly changing world weather, was certainly valid to be  included in a full worldwide Basic Service as before.

Not happy!

Regards,
John Tellick.






Re: Boundary data

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Fixed in beta 1145, just uploaded. My fault.

Cheers,
David.
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Re: Boundary data

Ferdinand Valk
 

-----Original Message-----
From: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> On Behalf Of David J Taylor via
Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September, 2018 08:10
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Boundary data

David,

The file has been sent to your blueyonder address. All lines are missing
everywhere, so not a particular place.

Thanks for looking at this.

Cheers,
Ferdinand
============================

Thanks, Ferdinand. I tried your file and the boundaries plot correctly,
as I said
in my direct message.

As a general point, I'm now using the GSHHG shoreline data version 2.3.7
(note
the changed name), and using the borders (world database) from the same
source. The countries.dat file is very simple starter file, and likely to
be well out
of date. Perhaps these files will include the extra data you need?

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/wessel/gshhg/ => binary download

In my GeoSatSignal tests I'm using:

Country boundary => Shorelines: gshhs_i.b Secondary user overlay =>
Borders:
wdb_borders_i.b

The data is available at multiple resolutions, so you can choose the
quality
which best meets your needs. The last character in the file name is:

f - full resolution
h - high resolution
i - intermediate resolution
l - low resolution

Cheers,
David
--
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David,

I have sent you a direct email with all the settings involved. As indicated
in that mail, it is not related to any boundary file. None work (for me) in
v 1142 and all in 1134. I'm using not only the modified country.dat file but
also the SOEST files in various resolutions, depending on the job at hand.

Ferdinand


Re: Boundary data

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David,

The file has been sent to your blueyonder address. All lines are missing
everywhere, so not a particular place.

Thanks for looking at this.

Cheers,
Ferdinand
============================

Thanks, Ferdinand. I tried your file and the boundaries plot correctly, as I said in my direct message.

As a general point, I'm now using the GSHHG shoreline data version 2.3.7 (note the changed name), and using the borders (world database) from the same source. The countries.dat file is very simple starter file, and likely to be well out of date. Perhaps these files will include the extra data you need?

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/wessel/gshhg/ => binary download

In my GeoSatSignal tests I'm using:

Country boundary => Shorelines: gshhs_i.b
Secondary user overlay => Borders: wdb_borders_i.b

The data is available at multiple resolutions, so you can choose the quality which best meets your needs. The last character in the file name is:

f - full resolution
h - high resolution
i - intermediate resolution
l - low resolution

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Re: Boundary data

Ferdinand Valk
 

================================

Ferdinand,

Please send the boundary file, and indicate where the lines are missing
(or
perhaps it's everywhere!). The only change in the code was to accommodate
GSHHG data, and that was in .1140. Perhaps your modified file is now
getting
identified as a different file type.

Cheers,
David
--
==================
David,

The file has been sent to your blueyonder address. All lines are missing
everywhere, so not a particular place.

Thanks for looking at this.

Cheers,
Ferdinand


Re: Boundary data

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David,

Using a modified countries.dat file that includes the Dutch isles (path
C:\Tools\DJT programs\Boundaries\countries-nl-extra.dat).
Situation is simple: version 1134 works perfectly well, I overwrite the exe
and lng files with version 1142 and gone are the boundaries. No changes in
anything else and as indicated in my response to Hamdan, no change in common
settings or job settings either.
I'm a bit puzzled as to why you don't see this behaviour.

Would it be convenient if I were to send a particular file to you?

Cheers,
Ferdinand
================================

Ferdinand,

Please send the boundary file, and indicate where the lines are missing (or perhaps it's everywhere!). The only change in the code was to accommodate GSHHG data, and that was in .1140. Perhaps your modified file is now getting identified as a different file type.

Cheers,
David
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Re: Boundary data

Maurizio calvitti
 

Indeed,  the Beta version of  GSS, on my PC, produces boundaries as expected!

Ciao
Maurizio


Re: Boundary data

Ferdinand Valk
 

-----Original Message-----
From: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> On Behalf Of David J Taylor via
Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, 10 September, 2018 15:44
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Boundary data

David,

During the weekend I changed my GeoSatSignal for the version advertised on
your Beta page as "GeoSatSignal - 8.2.3", which is actually
geosatsignal.8.2.2.1142.
This morning I found out that this version does not produce country
boundaries
anymore. Reverting to an older version (in this case I used
geosatsignal.8.2.1.1134 of December last) resolved the issue. Could you
have a
look at that please?

Cheers,
Ferdinand
===============================

Just checked here, Ferdinand, with beta "V8.2.2.1142" and I can't see any
problem. Checked with countries.dat and some GSHHG 2.3.7 files (gshhs_i.b
and internal borders wdb_borders_i.b).

What exact boundary files are you using?

Cheers,
David
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SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv
=====================================
David,

Using a modified countries.dat file that includes the Dutch isles (path
C:\Tools\DJT programs\Boundaries\countries-nl-extra.dat).
Situation is simple: version 1134 works perfectly well, I overwrite the exe
and lng files with version 1142 and gone are the boundaries. No changes in
anything else and as indicated in my response to Hamdan, no change in common
settings or job settings either.
I'm a bit puzzled as to why you don't see this behaviour.

Would it be convenient if I were to send a particular file to you?

Cheers,
Ferdinand


Re: Boundary data

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David,

During the weekend I changed my GeoSatSignal for the version advertised on
your Beta page as "GeoSatSignal - 8.2.3", which is actually
geosatsignal.8.2.2.1142.
This morning I found out that this version does not produce country
boundaries anymore. Reverting to an older version (in this case I used
geosatsignal.8.2.1.1134 of December last) resolved the issue. Could you have
a look at that please?

Cheers,
Ferdinand
===============================

Just checked here, Ferdinand, with beta "V8.2.2.1142" and I can't see any problem. Checked with countries.dat and some GSHHG 2.3.7 files (gshhs_i.b and internal borders wdb_borders_i.b).

What exact boundary files are you using?

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Re: Boundary data

Ferdinand Valk
 

Hamdan,

 

Thanks for the suggestion, but that is not the issue. All settings (common and per job) are identical between the two versions of GeoSatSignal. The 1142 version does not produce boundaries, whereas 1134 does.

Must be something else.

 

Ferdinand

 

From: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamdan via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, 10 September, 2018 11:59
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Boundary data

 

Ferdinand,

check the country boundary data file directory of Cartography option in GeoSatSignal setup.

Regards
Hamdan 


Re: Boundary data

Hamdan
 

Ferdinand,

check the country boundary data file directory of Cartography option in GeoSatSignal setup.

Regards
Hamdan 


Boundary data

Ferdinand Valk
 

David,

During the weekend I changed my GeoSatSignal for the version advertised on
your Beta page as "GeoSatSignal - 8.2.3", which is actually
geosatsignal.8.2.2.1142.
This morning I found out that this version does not produce country
boundaries anymore. Reverting to an older version (in this case I used
geosatsignal.8.2.1.1134 of December last) resolved the issue. Could you have
a look at that please?

Cheers,
Ferdinand


Re: BDADataEx

Ian Deans
 

On 10/09/2018 11:42, David J Taylor via Groups.Io wrote:
I am presently considering changing my set-up from an SR1 and TBS 5925 to a TBS 5925 and TBS 5927.
Ordinarily it would make sense to use the TBS IP tool for one receiver and BDADataEx for the other, but the IP tool is not stable on my computer causing intermittent crashes. It would therefore be necessary to use two BDADataEx and I was wondering if this was possible and if someone could point me in the right direction to set this up.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Ian.
==========================
Ian,
I've added some notes to my Web site:
 https://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/dvb-s2/T1-T2.html#two-usb
Any comments and corrections appreciated!
(Hope Douglas's e-mail is soon fixed.)
Cheers,
David
=========================================================================

Thanks David, as always your notes are concise and easy to follow and will be of a great help to anyone setting up two TBS USB boxes with BDADataEx.

I am still monitoring the SR1. Once it is up and running in the morning it is faultless, but it requires sometimes up to 3/4 starts and I now notice the power light is sometimes orange/red after boot up although other lights are normal except the flickering data flow.

Maybe a power issue as some others have had.

Regards
Ian.