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Re: Sky2PC USB

Peter Benney <tugboat@...>
 

The IBM PC design only had 15 IRQs. Where have the extra ones some from?
Both my systems have only 15.
Alan,

Here are the IRQs on my RX PC as per System Information. The Sky2PC USB is the only device on USB at the moment.

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Build 2600
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 1 AuthenticAMD ~2008 Mhz


IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
IRQ 4 Communications Port (COM1) OK
IRQ 6 Standard floppy disk controller OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
IRQ 10 MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device OK
IRQ 12 Logitech-compatible Mouse PS/2 OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 16 RADEON 9000 Series OK
IRQ 18 Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC OK
IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK
IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK
IRQ 22 VIA AC'97 Enhanced Audio Controller (WDM) OK

Cheers,

Peter


Re: Sky2PC USB

Alan Sewards <alan.sewards@...>
 

Peter,
The IBM PC design only had 15 IRQs. Where have the extra ones some from?
Both my systems have only 15.

Best regards - Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Benney" <tugboat@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Sky2PC USB



Eliminate the IPQ quandary???? Not really. The USB passes its data to
the
CPU via an IRQ, usually shared with other system hardware. And you don't
have any option to change it!
My quandry was the B2C2 sharing IRQ18 with the onboard NIC, this is no
longer the case with the USB Host Controller with IRQ21.

Peter





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log file report

Lawrence <lawrence@...>
 

As I watched, several missing segments became apparent. I checked the
log file on the receive computer and it reported "5 files
missing/incomplete". So at least I can see it recorded. No obvious
extra program running, but I don't expect to identify one anyway. The
list of processes running totals 39 and many are incomprehensible to me.

Lawrence Harris


Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEMS SORTED

BARRY DAY <barryday@...>
 

Hi Douglas, I'll keep you informed of how things go.
73's
barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Deans" <douglas@...>
To: "MSG-1" <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] MSG PAYMENT PROBLEMS SORTED



----- Original Message -----
From: "BARRY DAY" <barryday@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] MSG PAYMENT PROBLEMS SORTED


I got an E-mail from John M0ADS, He sugested sending the euro CASH via
the
royal mail, so I went to the PO and was told that what I want is "
SIGNEDFOR
" the cash is insured and must be signed for at the other end, you can
send
anything of value useing this service, it cost me �3.68 all incl and
should
be there tomorrow, I can also track it on the internet..
Thanks John.
Hope this is of great interest to others with this problem
73's Barry (G3WIS)

Look forward with interest to what happens. I assume the cash has been
sent to Eumetsat's Bankers, not to them.
I for one have always found Eumetsat, very prompt, most helpful and
extremely courteous and will continue to do things in the way they ask.
Despite our amateur status Eumetsat have always treated us equally with
professionals and I intend to operate like that, given the excellent
package
provided.

Regards
Douglas.



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Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEMS SORTED

johnrigsec@...
 

In a message dated 17-11-03 14:31:44 GMT Standard Time,
douglas@... writes:

I for one have always found Eumetsat, very prompt, most helpful and
extremely courteous and will continue to do things in the way they ask.
Despite our amateur status Eumetsat have always treated us equally with
professionals and I intend to operate like that, given the excellent package
provided.

Regards
Douglas.
Douglas,

Yes, indeed!
I second that and think it opportune to thank EUMETSAT for the efficient,
friendly
and professional way they deal with us amateurs.
I rather think they quite enjoy it as well.

John Tellick.


Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP

johnrigsec@...
 

Barry and others,

David and Douglas are right in their recent e-mail's regarding this matter.

Just to reiterate information I posted a month or so ago:

To access MSG-1 data via EUMETCast on Hot Bird 6 (apart from the equipment
required - which should be well known by now) you have to register with
EUMETSAT
for access to the data.

On the 'access registration form' you must state your use of the data.

At the moment (it appears) everyone who has applied to EUMETSAT have been
accepted in the current trials of the system and have been offered the
opportunity to purchase the tq(R)-TELLICAST software.

EUMETSAT have said they would like to offer credit card payment facilities
for this
but it is my understanding that this has to be agreed by the EUMETSAT Council
and then requires setting up.
This has not yet been done - 'Rome wasn't built in a day!'
[Therefore one must arrange a money transfer, still, as discussed (often) on
this
group.]

Having registered with EUMETSAT for access to the EUMETCast data, your
details
are then sent to your national Met. Office who deal with licensing matters -
that is
any payment charges for the data - which depends on your data usage.
They will also issue you with a license.
We in the UK through discussion and representation by RIG have been able to
acquire
a 'no charge for amateur use of MSG data' agreement from the UK Met. Office -
for
which we are very grateful.

This 'free access' is not necessarily the case in other European EUMETSAT
Member States.
However discussion has taken place between Member States Met. Offices
regarding
a common data access policy.
I don't want to jump the gun but I am quietly optimistic.

Also, there is a meeting of the EUMETSAT Council this month which I hope will
gather
in all the loose ends and end some outstanding anomalies regarding licensing
and
access to MSG data via EUMETCast.

Issuing of the UK licenses has been delayed by these further dissuasions and
by the
move of the UK Met. Office from Bracknell to Exeter.
So don't panic!

Full encryption of the data will now be March 2004 so you will not need your
'dongle'
till then.
There is a small charge for it and the relevant software and before full
encryption
is introduced all registered users will be contacted in order to purchase USB
eToken
'dongle.'

This cannot be purchased now and may require - if credit card facilities have
been set
up, another money transfer in the future.

I hope this sort of puts everything into place and answers most questions.

Regards,
John Tellick.
RIG secretary.


Re: Reports from a least affected user

a_van_belle
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "David Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
I would still be interested to know a little more about the
packetisation, buffering, data rates, and therefore interrupt rates
(or even DMA requirements) of the system. Perhaps someone has a
reference?
A good start is:
http://erg.abdn.ac.uk/research/future-net/digital-video/dsm-cc.html

And if you have a lot of time (and a member login) you can visit:
http://www.dvb.org/index.php?id=57

Greetings,
Arne van Belle


Re: Reports from a least affected user

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "Alan Sewards" <alan.sewards@c...>
wrote:
David,
The 27.5 Ms/s is the digital chip rate of the signal. Data
uses a number of chips per bit, I don't know how many with Hotbird/T-
Systems. But the data bit rate is likely to be less than 5 MHz. Its
by doing this that the digital format can get more channels into the
transponder than an analog system would, and still maintain a usable
S/N ratio.

Best regards - Alan
I would still be interested to know a little more about the
packetisation, buffering, data rates, and therefore interrupt rates
(or even DMA requirements) of the system. Perhaps someone has a
reference?

Cheers,
David


Re: Reports from a least affected user

Alan Sewards <alan.sewards@...>
 

David,
The 27.5 Ms/s is the digital chip rate of the signal. Data uses a number
of chips per bit, I don't know how many with Hotbird/T-Systems. But the data
bit rate is likely to be less than 5 MHz. Its by doing this that the digital
format can get more channels into the transponder than an analog system
would, and still maintain a usable S/N ratio.

Best regards - Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Taylor" <david-taylor@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:59 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: Reports from a least affected user


I don't suppose it would help but has anyone affected by the
problems (Windows XP) tried adding to the boot file, the very last
line, /pcilock - according to Microsoft knowledge base this can
help with PCI IRQ conflicts.

[boot loader]
timeout=2
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)&#92;WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)&#92;WINNT="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /pcilock
^^^^^^^^
Didn't know about that one, James. As I read it though, this means
that you have to sort out the IRQs yourself first, and then Windows
doesn't touch the result.

Talking of interrupts - the 188 byte packets come down at a 27.5MS/s
rate. What is the resulting bit rate? 100Mb/s? One bit every
10ns? So a 188 byte packet lasts 2us? There's no way a PC could
handle 500K interrupts a second! So what is the packet size and
interrupt rate? How many packets fit into the on-card buffer?

Cheers,
David



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Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEMS SORTED

Ian S Deans <ian@...>
 

Barry,

With due respect it hasn't been a problem for others. None of us want to
spend money that is unnecessary, but Eumetsat have one method of payment by
Bank Telegraphic Transfer and we have to accept that as part of our costs of
set-up, which as David pointed out is extremely low. I think we run the risk
of antagonising Eumetsat if we try to get round their system -- all to save
�6.

Regards

Ian

----- Original Message -----
From: "BARRY DAY" <barryday@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] MSG PAYMENT PROBLEMS SORTED


I got an E-mail from John M0ADS, He sugested sending the euro CASH via the
royal mail, so I went to the PO and was told that what I want is "
SIGNEDFOR
" the cash is insured and must be signed for at the other end, you can
send
anything of value useing this service, it cost me �3.68 all incl and
should
be there tomorrow, I can also track it on the internet..
Thanks John.
Hope this is of great interest to others with this problem


Re: Skystar install

Ap van Weeren
 

Many tks David, have a try and let you know later.
ap


--- In MSG-1@..., "David Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
--- In MSG-1@..., Ap van Weeren <apvweeren@y...> wrote:
Hello, Can anybody give some advice how to install the
Skystar 2 TV- card. The computer doesn't find the
card, so it is impossible to install the drivers,
prior to the rest of the software. In the New hardware
set up is no :"B2C2 broadband Adapter".
Many thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ap van Weeren, apvweeren@y... or avweeren@d...
Ap, all I can suggest is to try a different PCI slot. The card
requires a 5V slot (not a 3.3V one), so perhaps check your
motherboard manual. In the three PCs I've tested, detection has
been automatic. Perhaps you could try the "Scan for new hardware"
function?

Cheers,
David


Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEMS SORTED

James Brown
 

I got an E-mail from John M0ADS,
May I enquire as to who this person is and what authority they have on this issue?

Look forward with interest to what happens. I assume the cash has been
sent to Eumetsat's Bankers, not to them.
I for one have always found Eumetsat, very prompt, most helpful and
extremely courteous and will continue to do things in the way they ask.
Despite our amateur status Eumetsat have always treated us equally with
professionals and I intend to operate like that, given the excellent package
provided.

Regards
Douglas.

I'm with you on this one Douglas. I'm all for saving money, but if I am privileged to be able to receive data which would otherwise not be in the public domain then I would like to co-operate as much as I could. The differential does not seem to me IMHO to warrant a different approach.

Cheers,

James
--
James Brown


Re: Skystar install

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@..., Ap van Weeren <apvweeren@y...> wrote:
Hello, Can anybody give some advice how to install the
Skystar 2 TV- card. The computer doesn't find the
card, so it is impossible to install the drivers,
prior to the rest of the software. In the New hardware
set up is no :"B2C2 broadband Adapter".
Many thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ap van Weeren, apvweeren@y... or avweeren@d...
Ap, all I can suggest is to try a different PCI slot. The card
requires a 5V slot (not a 3.3V one), so perhaps check your
motherboard manual. In the three PCs I've tested, detection has
been automatic. Perhaps you could try the "Scan for new hardware"
function?

Cheers,
David


Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEMS SORTED

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "BARRY DAY" <barryday@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] MSG PAYMENT PROBLEMS SORTED


I got an E-mail from John M0ADS, He sugested sending the euro CASH via the
royal mail, so I went to the PO and was told that what I want is "
SIGNEDFOR
" the cash is insured and must be signed for at the other end, you can
send
anything of value useing this service, it cost me �3.68 all incl and
should
be there tomorrow, I can also track it on the internet..
Thanks John.
Hope this is of great interest to others with this problem
73's Barry (G3WIS)

Look forward with interest to what happens. I assume the cash has been
sent to Eumetsat's Bankers, not to them.
I for one have always found Eumetsat, very prompt, most helpful and
extremely courteous and will continue to do things in the way they ask.
Despite our amateur status Eumetsat have always treated us equally with
professionals and I intend to operate like that, given the excellent package
provided.

Regards
Douglas.


Skystar install

Ap van Weeren
 

Hello, Can anybody give some advice how to install the
Skystar 2 TV- card. The computer doesn't find the
card, so it is impossible to install the drivers,
prior to the rest of the software. In the New hardware
set up is no :"B2C2 broadband Adapter".
Many thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ap van Weeren, apvweeren@... or avweeren@...

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Re: animation back-steps

Robert Moore
 

David did you notice that at around 0730 today the animations all took a
little back-step with the clouds reversing direction? I presume this is some
little glitch at the EUMETSAT end.

Robert



Yes, there seemed to be one of the steps in the image that we sometimes
observe. As if the scan mirror or its position sensor gets a few lines
out.

Cheers,
David





------------------------------
Robert Moore
tel and fax: 44 (0) 1352 714456


MSG PAYMENT PROBLEMS SORTED

BARRY DAY <barryday@...>
 

I got an E-mail from John M0ADS, He sugested sending the euro CASH via the
royal mail, so I went to the PO and was told that what I want is " SIGNEDFOR
" the cash is insured and must be signed for at the other end, you can send
anything of value useing this service, it cost me �3.68 all incl and should
be there tomorrow, I can also track it on the internet..
Thanks John.
Hope this is of great interest to others with this problem
73's Barry (G3WIS)

----- Original Message -----
From: "BARRY DAY" <barryday@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP


Ok David thank for clearing that point up I been into town today and as a
point of interest Natwest charges are the cheapest at �8.00, Thomas Cook
the
dearest at �15.00, TSB �10, Abbey National �10.00, Halifax �10.00, 1st
Direct �10.00..
Chears
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Taylor" <david-taylor@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:12 AM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP


Barry, you cannot get your e-token until you have the necessary
licence from your country's licensing authority which for us will be
the UK Met. Office.

So therefore you will need to pay twice to Eumetsat, once for the
software today and once for the eToken later, so there will be two
lots of bank charges. This is unfortunate, but it's the way it is
right now. You will be able get data until March without the
eToken, so there's plenty of time to save up!

Compared to the cost of receiving the data directly from Meteosat 7,
with a large dish for high-resolution PDUS reception, and the key
unit, and the receiver, a few pounds for bank charges is quite
insignificant, although I agree that any extra cost should be
minimised.

Cheers,
David



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Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP

BARRY DAY <barryday@...>
 

Thanks again Douglas for clearing that point up I'll go and pay my bit, hi.
Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Deans" <douglas@...>
To: "MSG-1" <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP



----- Original Message -----
From: "BARRY DAY" <barryday@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP


Thanks Robert I'll do that and go to see Lloyds
Eumetsat have only asked for 60e, I assume thats just for the S/W should
I
not ask for the KEY on the same transaction ie 100e.
Barry Day

Barry, you cannot get your e-token until you have the necessary licence
from
your country's licensing authority which for us will be the UK Met.
Office.
That will be issued in accordance with what you have applied for in your
application to Eumetsat. Eumetsat will forward your application data to
the
authority (once you have completed your application/payment).
If you have applied for full data on an amateur basis that licence should
be
free for those in the UK (thanks to RIG).
The trial continues until the end of January 2004 so you still have plenty
of time.

Regards
Douglas.




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Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP

BARRY DAY <barryday@...>
 

Ok David thank for clearing that point up I been into town today and as a
point of interest Natwest charges are the cheapest at �8.00, Thomas Cook the
dearest at �15.00, TSB �10, Abbey National �10.00, Halifax �10.00, 1st
Direct �10.00..
Chears
Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Taylor" <david-taylor@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:12 AM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP


Barry, you cannot get your e-token until you have the necessary
licence from your country's licensing authority which for us will be
the UK Met. Office.

So therefore you will need to pay twice to Eumetsat, once for the
software today and once for the eToken later, so there will be two
lots of bank charges. This is unfortunate, but it's the way it is
right now. You will be able get data until March without the
eToken, so there's plenty of time to save up!

Compared to the cost of receiving the data directly from Meteosat 7,
with a large dish for high-resolution PDUS reception, and the key
unit, and the receiver, a few pounds for bank charges is quite
insignificant, although I agree that any extra cost should be
minimised.

Cheers,
David



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Re: MSG PAYMENT PROBLEM HELP

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Barry, you cannot get your e-token until you have the necessary
licence from your country's licensing authority which for us will be
the UK Met. Office.

So therefore you will need to pay twice to Eumetsat, once for the
software today and once for the eToken later, so there will be two
lots of bank charges. This is unfortunate, but it's the way it is
right now. You will be able get data until March without the
eToken, so there's plenty of time to save up!

Compared to the cost of receiving the data directly from Meteosat 7,
with a large dish for high-resolution PDUS reception, and the key
unit, and the receiver, a few pounds for bank charges is quite
insignificant, although I agree that any extra cost should be
minimised.

Cheers,
David