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Re: Animator file locations

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "Alan Sewards" <alan.sewards@c...>
wrote:
I find that MSG Animator is using a directory called MSG1
&#92;Images on the C:&#92; drive to store the animations. I want it to use
D:&#92;MSG1&#92;Images instead but I cannot find anywhere to tell Animator
this. (D: drive is faster than C:)

Alan,

Right-click the MSG Animator icon, Set data path...

Cheers,
David


Re: Two PC's and MSG

Alan Sewards <alan.sewards@...>
 

Hi folks,
Just another personal view.....
I use Windows XP SP1 on a single machine setup and it works very well,
coping with the SkyStar card, the tellique software, MSG DM and MSG
Animator. I don't use this machine for anything else. Dave is right in that
XP has a tendency to mess up the network - I think I've fixed that by
assigning manual IP addresses, but it still tries occasionally to
reconfigure the network hardware (SkyStar card and LAN) via the network
bridge, and has to be sorted out. My machine was inexpensive, costing less
than 500 Euros (2400+XP Athlon and SV266A mobo). I have never used Windows
2000 so cannot comment on that system, but I just wanted to point our that
many of us have had at least acceptable results using garden-variety XP,
easily available!

Best regards and good luck with your system - Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Martin" <Dave.Martin@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 6:20 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: Two PC's and MSG



Basil,

as a personal view I would not use XP, especially for the 'receiver' PC

Whenever I require a stable machine I use Win2k (and in fact I have
upgraded a number of machines from XP to W2k ! )

I'm certain XP is an improvement, but there are times when it seems to
be/get "too clever". In particular, with respect to the MSG capture
application, at a whim it will apparently re-number interfaces and IP
addresses (so you appear to 'loose' the Technisat card); also with the
increased OS complexity (i) there is a bigger OS overhead, and (ii) it seems
more prone to go off to perform OS or housekeeping tasks (or even go and
pick bluebells?) with consequent impact on receive performance.
<snip>
Dave M
<snip>


Re: Tellique Startup

Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@...>
 

what OS Roger?

----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Mawhinney
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 12:09 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Tellique Startup


If I start Tellique (ver 2.0.3a) after running other applications, it does
not connect. I only get it to connect if I start immediately after a
re-boot. Is there an explanation for this?

Roger
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Tellique Startup

Roger Mawhinney <roger@...>
 

If I start Tellique (ver 2.0.3a) after running other applications, it does
not connect. I only get it to connect if I start immediately after a
re-boot. Is there an explanation for this?

Roger


Animator file locations

Alan Sewards <alan.sewards@...>
 

I find that MSG Animator is using a directory called MSG1&#92;Images on the
C:&#92; drive to store the animations. I want it to use D:&#92;MSG1&#92;Images instead
but I cannot find anywhere to tell Animator this. (D: drive is faster than
C:)

Best regards - Alan

Alan Sewards
email: alan.sewards@...
web site: http://asewards.free.fr


Re: Snow in Scotland

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hardly know what snow is, down here in Ipswich!!!!
regards
Nigel
You must have missed last year's, then?

David


Re: newbie setting up for MSG

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "peterszoo2003" <peter@z...> wrote:
I will give David Taylors software a try when funds
available
Peter,

Glad you are enjoying the MSG-1 data. If you don't already have a
free trial licence for my software, just e-mail me for one.

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.net
Email: davidtaylor@...


Re: Two PC's and MSG

Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@...>
 

Basil,

as a personal view I would not use XP, especially for the 'receiver' PC

Whenever I require a stable machine I use Win2k (and in fact I have upgraded a number of machines from XP to W2k ! )

I'm certain XP is an improvement, but there are times when it seems to be/get "too clever". In particular, with respect to the MSG capture application, at a whim it will apparently re-number interfaces and IP addresses (so you appear to 'loose' the Technisat card); also with the increased OS complexity (i) there is a bigger OS overhead, and (ii) it seems more prone to go off to perform OS or housekeeping tasks (or even go and pick bluebells?) with consequent impact on receive performance.

So, for time critical reception, especially in the absence of any return channel to request a retransmission or any other ability to 'fill a hole' I would suggest that you are likely to see better results using W2k (or even NT4) on the receiver PC. For the 'processing' PC (David' MSG Data Manager / animator / GSS4) then those tasks can 'give' or yield more easily, and are more accomodating of the OS and/or other applications. Also, since you are usually sharing the receive directory 'outward' on the receiver PC, it is more critical that its network configuration stays unchanged.

One other issue which has caught some of the earlier triallists relates to disc storage, as MSG generates "humungous" amounts of data - and there is only very coarse filtration available through the PIDs in the Tellique software. Otherwise, you have to take it all and then let David ditch the channels you don't need - but that only happens once it has (almost) all been captured and transferred to the processing PC. With older disc formats there are constraints on the number of files per directory, so you are very highly recommended to format the disc as 'NTFS' rather than FAT. Also, there will almost inevitably come a time when an un-attended operation fails - perhaps due to the two PCs dropping the link for whatever reason. Files will quickly stack up on the receiver PC and can fill the disc ...... therefore if you are making a fresh install, you might consider making two volumes - one for the OS and program, and a distinct logical volume to hold the Receive directory where the Tellique client writes the raw data prior to it being collected by MSGDM - that way, if the data does over-fill, it won't run the risk of affecting the OS/program area

Dave M

----- Original Message -----
From: basilhaigh@...
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Re: Two PC's and MSG


Douglas,

The XP book makes it seem so simple. What with your advice, along with David
and Guy's, I will hang on until I get the Tellique software. Might get back to
you later. I'll leave David alone, he always seems so busy!
Many thanks,

Basil
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Re: Black circle in CLAI images

fvalk <fvalk@...>
 

No, that is the area where at the moment of taking the image the sun reflects
directly below. For purposes of accuracy of information provided in this
derived image, the sunlit area has been "worked-out", providing the circle you
refer to.

Cheers,

Ferdinand

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "T Dahmen" <ton.dahmen@...>
: The CLAI image (Cloud Analysis) shows a black
circle in the image what is this, is that the shadow of the satelite?
the middle point on the image of 2003-dec-31 is Lat -10.9, Lon -5,2 degrees.

73 PE1OVS


Black circle in CLAI images

T Dahmen <ton.dahmen@...>
 

Hi
Since one week I am using Davids MSG data manager and I am very impressed of it. I have a question maybe it;s a stupid question but I am not a weatherman: The CLAI image (Cloud Analysis) shows a black circle in the image what is this, is that the shadow of the satelite?
the middle point on the image of 2003-dec-31 is Lat -10.9, Lon -5,2 degrees.

73 PE1OVS


Re: Snow in Scotland

Ian S Deans <ian@...>
 

Will do David. Just going out for a while so will post it later. Last night
was the first time I had posted an image to the file area and realised after
it was sent that I hadn't converted it. The original full image was 52mb !!

BTW I am sure that the beta you sent with drop priority on file clearance
has helped my segment loss problems. Things are much improved ( only 4 lost
yesterday in 13 hours ) Outlook Express appears to be my biggest problem
especially when preparing mail !!! This is the third mail I have prepared
this morning and I have lost 3 segments during each mail typing ( 2 so far
in this mail ).

Best wishes for 2004 to you and Cecilia.

Ian.


New file uploaded to MSG-1

MSG-1@...
 

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Description : This MSG-1 HRV image taken on the 30th December 2003 at 13.15 UTC shows lying snow on the north of Scotland and demonstrates the capabilities of this new satellite.

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Regards,

dundean1 <douglas@...>


Re: Snow in Scotland

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian S Deans" <ian@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:30 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Snow in Scotland


Today's HRV images show superb views of the snow cover in northern
Scotland.
The detail is really quite amazing when you consider just how far north
this
part of the country is.

Ian.

Yes and shows in my opinion that MSG is better than previous Meteosat's at
dealing with the low level of illumination in the northern latitudes at this
time of the year.
I am about to post a similar image, but false coloured and orthographically
corrected showing what marvels can be produced using David Taylor's
GeoSatSignal 4.
I have intentionally left off geographic outlines as those are not 100%
accurate yet on HRV images mainly due to software correction for it's
current 10� W location. (this should be resolved when it is moved to 3.4�W
in January)

As you look at the snow detail, let us remember that this is from a
geostationary satellite approx 35,000kM out over the equator, of a region
approximately 55� - 60� N, and the worst possible time for visible
imagery.......not bad ! Oh and an image every 15 minutes.
It has been a good weather satellite year for Europe.

Regards
Douglas.


Re: Two PC's and MSG

sbu979r
 

Guy,

Phew! good job you sent me this information as I was about to let Win XP
complete the set-up. I will delay going any further until I have all the necessary
equipment.
Anyway I am now happy with which PC to use for receiving.
Thank you.

Basil


Re: Snow in Scotland

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Today's HRV images show superb views of the snow cover in northern
Scotland.
The detail is really quite amazing when you consider just how far north
this
part of the country is.

Ian.
Ian - I suggest posting your image to the RIG-L list as well (WXSAT would
also be interested, but don't have a files area). You might want to
convert it to a high-quality JPEG first. Many thanks for posting!

Cheers,
David


Re: Two PC's and MSG

sbu979r
 

Douglas,

The XP book makes it seem so simple. What with your advice, along with David
and Guy's, I will hang on until I get the Tellique software. Might get back to
you later. I'll leave David alone, he always seems so busy!
Many thanks,

Basil


Re: Two PC's and MSG

Guy Martin <agm@...>
 

I know I'm biased but I would use win2k pro sp4 for the receive lowest spec
machine. Some people have no end of problems with xp while others have none
at all and while it doubless works perfectly with correctly written programs
it seems to get really bitchy about some drivers. Networking is easy just
give the receive machine the tellique address 192.168.238.238 with a mask of
255.255.255.0 and the main machine a similar address e.g. 192.168.238.237,
same mask. This is where xp tries to be 'helpful' and re-assigns the
addresses and acts as a dhcp server which you have to tell it not to do.
RTL8139X based network cards (Genius etc) work a dream with windows and are
cheap and windows has the drivers and will detect it ok. I would advise
using unc pathname in MDM to the receive machine, i.e.
&#92;&#92;name_of_receive_machine&#92;tellique&#92;received this avoids the map drive
disconnection problems and map drive not available if you only start the
main machine. Don't forget to share the tellique folder.

Cheers, Guy

----- Original Message -----
From: David Taylor
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: Two PC's and MSG


--- In MSG-1@..., "Douglas Deans" <douglas@d...> wrote:

Any network problems please speak to David (<grin>).
Well, I was serious in suggesting a small write-up Douglas.


I've never actually done a 2-PC with cross-over network, so your
much more recent experience may be a good guide to others.....

Cheers,
David.






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New file uploaded to MSG-1

MSG-1@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the MSG-1
group.

File : /snow in Scotland.bmp
Uploaded by : isdeans <ian@...>
Description : snow in Scotland

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MSG-1/files/snow%20in%20Scotland.bmp

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

isdeans <ian@...>


Re: newbie setting up for MSG

peterszoo2003 <peter@...>
 

update on my setup took a while to recieve the tellique software
then flu from boxing day so set up for MSG yesterday using a
p4 2.66GHz 533MHz fsb, 1Gb pc2700 ram.and a g4 128Mb graphics card
to lighten load on ram. Software xp pro using xrit2pic to
view the data and images as yet no lost segments.
My system runs no other software as yet other than the required, as
computer will not be used
to acess internet so will not as yet need anti virus or fire wall
protection and I removed windows messenger and the like so as there
is nothing running in the background, I know this is a minimal
system and I will give David Taylors software a try when funds
available to put more load on the processor to see how far I can
push it before lost segments apear.
So the 1 or 2 computer network question still not fully answered but
perhaps the answer may become clearerer for me at least.
thanks to all who replied to my previous postings.

Best regards and happy & prosperous new year, Peter.


Re: Snow in Scotland

nigel heasman <nigel_heasman@...>
 

Hi Ian,
any chance of posting one to the list files area, so
we can share it with you?
Hardly know what snow is, down here in Ipswich!!!!
regards
Nigel
--- Ian S Deans <ian@...> wrote:
---------------------------------
Today's HRV images show superb views of the snow cover
in northern Scotland.
The detail is really quite amazing when you consider
just how far north this
part of the country is.

Ian.


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