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Re: HRV Channel 12

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian S Deans" <ian@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 3:33 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] HRV Channel 12


Did anyone else see a strange anomaly on HRIT channel 12 at 14.30. over
Africa or was this just part of my on going problem with segment loss.
Strangely enough segment loss on LRIT has been extremely rare, but today
the
12.00 Met 5 images were terrible with segments 5-10 missing on the visible
and segment 5 missing on both IR and WV, presumably all part of my
problem.

Regards

Ian
The strange anomaly is in fact present on all the 14.30 images and can be
seen between approx. 16� - 20� S latitude. A small blip in the SEVIRI or
probably software.

By now you will have seen that the majority of the Met 5 segments for 12.00
came in after 15.00 !
Not surprised you assumed it to be associated with your current segment
issue. The FSD data is not coming in timeously at the moment. One wonders
if eventually channel 3 may need a bandwidth tweak.

Regards
Douglas.


Re: HRV Channel 12

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Strangely enough segment loss on LRIT has been extremely rare, but
today the 12.00 Met 5 images were terrible with segments 5-10
missing on the visible and segment 5 missing on both IR and WV,
presumably all part of my problem.
No, same here. I see the Met-5 12:00 segments coming in since
15:00...... Can't comment on HRV right now.

David


HRV Channel 12

Ian S Deans <ian@...>
 

Did anyone else see a strange anomaly on HRIT channel 12 at 14.30. over
Africa or was this just part of my on going problem with segment loss.
Strangely enough segment loss on LRIT has been extremely rare, but today the
12.00 Met 5 images were terrible with segments 5-10 missing on the visible
and segment 5 missing on both IR and WV, presumably all part of my problem.

Regards

Ian


Re: Address Change

M5WJF <m5wjf.qthr@...>
 

Hi All,

Colin Cuthbert, Met Office, rang me and explained that if anyone
changes their address during the MSG Licence period, they should let
him know in the first instance. He would then update the details
with EUMETSAT & the Met Office, and a new Licence would then be
issued free of charge.

I'm impressed that he rang me back so quickly.

73 de Wayne M5WJF


Address Change

M5WJF <m5wjf.qthr@...>
 

Hi All,

Yes, it was a nice surprise this morning.

I've left a voice mail message with Colin Cuthbert, Met Office,
requesting details of whether an address change within the free
three year MSG Licence Period will attract any cost/difficulty.

I'm likely to be moving house early next year and decided to ask.

I'll let everyone know what I find out.

73 de Wayne M5WJF


Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.

John Thexton <john@...>
 

Yes you are correct David 40 euros for the e token 60 for tellique software.
Best Wishes
John

----- Original Message -----
From: David Taylor
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:05 AM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.


> Does this mean you'll be getting an MSG system now John? ;-))

Must be the one person who _should_ have one!

> To answer Douglas's question:
>
> We need to return a signed copy to the Met office and they will
inform EUMETSAT and then they in turn will issue the decryption
hardware and software at the cost of 100 EUR inclusive.

This confuses me - the cost, as I understaood it, was 60 Euros for
the Tellique software and 40 Euros for the eToken and it's runtime
environment. You may want to check just what you get for the 100
Euros - perhaps it includes the Tellique software you already have.

BTW: if you are running the V4.2.8 drivers - watch out. Perhaps it
was just me, but I had awful problems with the eToken and the V4.2.8
drivers - the system would randomly stop working after 3 - 72
hours. We went through a lot of pain to discover just what the
problem was, upgrades of the Tellique software, upgrades and debug
versions of the eToken runtime environment, putting the eToken on a
USB extender cable in case it wasn't seating properly. This on a
550MHz Pentium III. In the end, I got a second eToken, and built a
second 1GHz Pentium III PC with a new SkyStar card. No problems
with the rebuilt configuration. I then put the original SkyStar
card and USB eToken into another PC (2.8GHz Pentium 4), got a
splitter to feed both, and have no problems with that
configuration. Go figure!

No such mail here as yet, just the Tax bill for last year and half
of next year....

David



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Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Does this mean you'll be getting an MSG system now John? ;-))
Must be the one person who _should_ have one!

To answer Douglas's question:

We need to return a signed copy to the Met office and they will
inform EUMETSAT and then they in turn will issue the decryption
hardware and software at the cost of 100 EUR inclusive.

This confuses me - the cost, as I understaood it, was 60 Euros for
the Tellique software and 40 Euros for the eToken and it's runtime
environment. You may want to check just what you get for the 100
Euros - perhaps it includes the Tellique software you already have.

BTW: if you are running the V4.2.8 drivers - watch out. Perhaps it
was just me, but I had awful problems with the eToken and the V4.2.8
drivers - the system would randomly stop working after 3 - 72
hours. We went through a lot of pain to discover just what the
problem was, upgrades of the Tellique software, upgrades and debug
versions of the eToken runtime environment, putting the eToken on a
USB extender cable in case it wasn't seating properly. This on a
550MHz Pentium III. In the end, I got a second eToken, and built a
second 1GHz Pentium III PC with a new SkyStar card. No problems
with the rebuilt configuration. I then put the original SkyStar
card and USB eToken into another PC (2.8GHz Pentium 4), got a
splitter to feed both, and have no problems with that
configuration. Go figure!

No such mail here as yet, just the Tax bill for last year and half
of next year....

David


Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.

Trevor David <tdavid@...>
 

I note that Eumetsat have stated that a credit card system will be available early 2004 for payment up to E1,500. Further details will be on the web in due course.

----- Original Message -----
From: James Brown
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:49 AM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.


In message <4f.388cde1f.2d180bbd@...>, johnrigsec@... writes
>All,
>
>I hope that MSG users in the UK had the same surprise as me this morning when
>picking up the morning post?
>There amongst the Christmas cards was my Met. Office License Agreement for
>the
>use of MSG Data.
>
>I hope that you all received yours - or will do so in a couple of days.
>
>What an end to the year?
>
>Regards,
>John Tellick.
>

Yes myself as well.
Does this mean you'll be getting an MSG system now John? ;-))

To answer Douglas's question:

We need to return a signed copy to the Met office and they will inform
EUMETSAT and then they in turn will issue the decryption hardware and
software at the cost of 100 EUR inclusive.

Payment is to be by a cheque drawn in EUR to EUMETSAT, and then they
will activate the e-token.

Cheers,
James
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Re: [rig-l] A nice surprise.

James Brown
 

In message <4f.388cde1f.2d180bbd@...>, johnrigsec@... writes
All,

I hope that MSG users in the UK had the same surprise as me this morning when
picking up the morning post?
There amongst the Christmas cards was my Met. Office License Agreement for
the
use of MSG Data.

I hope that you all received yours - or will do so in a couple of days.

What an end to the year?

Regards,
John Tellick.
Yes myself as well.
Does this mean you'll be getting an MSG system now John? ;-))

To answer Douglas's question:

We need to return a signed copy to the Met office and they will inform EUMETSAT and then they in turn will issue the decryption hardware and software at the cost of 100 EUR inclusive.

Payment is to be by a cheque drawn in EUR to EUMETSAT, and then they will activate the e-token.

Cheers,
James
--
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Firewalls and MSG DM

Lawrence <lawrence@...>
 

Well - its solved! On every occasion in the past, I have not been able
to get the home network computers to talk to each other when the XP
firewall is enabled. I had spent hours trying to crack the problem.
All settings were correct and the names etc were fine; just didn't work.
I decided to have one more try - after reading the responses - and guess
what! Yes, it now works without the slightest hitch.

Thanks for comments.

Lawrence


Re: A nice surprise.

Trevor Davies <g0jix@...>
 

All,

SNAP!

----- Original Message -----
From: johnrigsec@...
To: MSG-1@... ; rig-l@... ; WXSAT-L@...
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:56 AM
Subject: [MSG-1] A nice surprise.


All,

I hope that MSG users in the UK had the same surprise as me this morning when
picking up the morning post?
There amongst the Christmas cards was my Met. Office License Agreement for
the
use of MSG Data.

I hope that you all received yours - or will do so in a couple of days.

What an end to the year?

Regards,
John Tellick.



73 de Trevor G0JIX
All mail scanned with Norton.


Re: A nice surprise.

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: <johnrigsec@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>; <rig-l@...>;
<WXSAT-L@...>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:56 AM
Subject: [MSG-1] A nice surprise.


All,

I hope that MSG users in the UK had the same surprise as me this morning
when
picking up the morning post?
There amongst the Christmas cards was my Met. Office License Agreement for
the
use of MSG Data.

I hope that you all received yours - or will do so in a couple of days.

What an end to the year?

Regards,
John Tellick.

Excellent news John. Mine hasn't arrived but at least we know the process
is under way.
What happens when you get it ?
Presumably you sign a second copy and send it back to them as confirmation.
Do you then apply to Eumetsat for the e-dongle and if so do they need
evidence of your licence ?

Regards
Douglas.


A nice surprise.

johnrigsec@...
 

All,

I hope that MSG users in the UK had the same surprise as me this morning when
picking up the morning post?
There amongst the Christmas cards was my Met. Office License Agreement for
the
use of MSG Data.

I hope that you all received yours - or will do so in a couple of days.

What an end to the year?

Regards,
John Tellick.


Re: Firewalls and MSG-1

Alan Sewards <alan.sewards@...>
 

Lawrence,
Use the free Zone Alarm firewall. It is configurable and seems to work
well.

Best regards - Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lawrence" <lawrence@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 3:09 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Firewalls and MSG-1


In order to use MSG DM across a home network, I have had to disable the
XP Pro firewall. When it is enabled, the other computers on the network
cannot see the main (processing) computer. Does anyone know whether the
MS firewall can be taught that the internal network is OK? I have not
found any reference to this in MS help files.

TIA

Lawrence Harris


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Re: Firewalls and MSG-1

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@..., Lawrence <lawrence@a...> wrote:
In order to use MSG DM across a home network, I have had to
disable the XP Pro firewall. When it is enabled, the other
computers on the network cannot see the main (processing) computer.
Does anyone know whether the MS firewall can be taught that the
internal network is OK? I have not found any reference to this in
MS help files.

TIA

Lawrence Harris
I've seen no problems with this. I run a router, which could
provide DHCP addresses, although I have actually made the PCs have
static addresses. All the PCs run Zone Alarm, and the only setting
required is to say "trust the local network", which it sets by
default in any case. Each PC has the appropriate entry in &#92;system32
&#92;drivers&#92;etc&#92;hosts to enable it to find the other PCs. I run a
workgroup, and not a domain.

You should be aware that the XP Firewall only works to block
incoming requests, if a virus gets on your system it can do what it
wants. IMHO, it's better to use Zone Alarm which allows you to
specifically control which programs have access to the local network
and which have access to the Internet. On my Receiver PC I have
allowed access for Setup4PC, Server4PC and TQrecv. There was no
need to enable special access for the MSG Data Manager on the
Processing PC.

Cheers,
David


Re: Firewalls and MSG-1

James Brown
 

I
Exactly the same here James. I have 2 computers on a simple (cross over)
network and either I wait a few minutes or 'force' recognition on start up.
I consider myself reasonably competent with computers but with one major
exception.....networks ! God bless the XP Network Wizard.

Regards
Douglas.
LOL Douglas! Yes indeed - I now consider myself to be a network expert because of all the problems I have had at one point or another!! The only thing is, I haven't a clue as to how they work, but if your problem happens to have matched mine - then of course I am an expert at that point!!

My network regularly goes down, I've had to re-install drivers for the access points, rename connections that for some strange reason become connection 3, followed by connection 4 etc. Discover that I hadn't logged all the computers in the same workgroup, unplug devices which have inexplicably locked up - usually on the wife's computer - , mains blips which have hung up the router, and in terms of re-booting - I am the King!!

Cheers,

James
--
James Brown


Re: Firewalls and MSG-1

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Brown" <satellite@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Firewalls and MSG-1


In message <n6abuv8416ffo8717peanag8939rf69fgc@...>, Lawrence
<lawrence@...> writes
In order to use MSG DM across a home network, I have had to disable the
XP Pro firewall. When it is enabled, the other computers on the network
cannot see the main (processing) computer. Does anyone know whether the
MS firewall can be taught that the internal network is OK? I have not
found any reference to this in MS help files.

TIA

Lawrence Harris
Hi Lawrence,

Do you mean not at all or it takes a long time for the network to
establish the computers in the workgroups and to begin to access the
files?

I can use a laptop with Windows XP home edition to access the main
computer (also XP home)via a 11mHz Wireless router/ modem network, both
are firewalled and files come across OK. But it can take several minutes
for the computers to begin to recognise the existence of each other.

Cheers,

James
--
James Brown
Exactly the same here James. I have 2 computers on a simple (cross over)
network and either I wait a few minutes or 'force' recognition on start up.
I consider myself reasonably competent with computers but with one major
exception.....networks ! God bless the XP Network Wizard.

Regards
Douglas.


Re: Firewalls and MSG-1

Robert Moore
 

Lawrence I found this a nightmare, as was Zone Alarm. I just work with Cisco VPN
software running now (even though I have no actual VPN installed). No problems
with that.

Robert




<lawrence@...>:

In order to use MSG DM across a home network, I have had to disable the
XP Pro firewall. When it is enabled, the other computers on the network
cannot see the main (processing) computer. Does anyone know whether the
MS firewall can be taught that the internal network is OK? I have not
found any reference to this in MS help files.

TIA

Lawrence Harris


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Re: Firewalls and MSG-1

James Brown
 

In message <n6abuv8416ffo8717peanag8939rf69fgc@...>, Lawrence <lawrence@...> writes
In order to use MSG DM across a home network, I have had to disable the
XP Pro firewall. When it is enabled, the other computers on the network
cannot see the main (processing) computer. Does anyone know whether the
MS firewall can be taught that the internal network is OK? I have not
found any reference to this in MS help files.

TIA

Lawrence Harris
Hi Lawrence,

Do you mean not at all or it takes a long time for the network to establish the computers in the workgroups and to begin to access the files?

I can use a laptop with Windows XP home edition to access the main computer (also XP home)via a 11mHz Wireless router/ modem network, both are firewalled and files come across OK. But it can take several minutes for the computers to begin to recognise the existence of each other.

Cheers,

James
--
James Brown


Firewalls and MSG-1

Lawrence <lawrence@...>
 

In order to use MSG DM across a home network, I have had to disable the
XP Pro firewall. When it is enabled, the other computers on the network
cannot see the main (processing) computer. Does anyone know whether the
MS firewall can be taught that the internal network is OK? I have not
found any reference to this in MS help files.

TIA

Lawrence Harris