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Re: EUMETCastView v1.4.0

Graham Woolf
 

Hi Hugo

 

Looks good now – many thanks. All I need now is for it to read the SLSTR-L2 files I get from Eumetcast and I will be really happy 😊

 

Thanks for a great piece of software

 

Kind Regards

 

Graham

 

Re: TP-1 SNR.

Ian Deans
 

On 04/07/2018 20:52, a_van_belle wrote:
Remarkable that John sees a lot a variation, Ian is clearly on the edge of the footprint which does add more variations but John's location should not be affected.
John your recent change is most likely due to the Cross-polarised signal that switches on and off at irregular times.
Adjusting your LNB skew  for max SNR should get rid of this.
The daily variation could be noise generated from the heated pavement (then minimal SNR at max, sun) or a slight dish miss-alignment combined with the figure 8 satellite wobble.
Over here nothing but steady SNR now that we have not had any rain for over a month !
My dish is mounted on a south-facing wall that heats up enormous with 30 degrees (measured in the shade !)
But my pavement under the dish is mostly shaded and at 2 meters distance. So I don't see any daily variation.
T1 shows a steady 11.8 db SNR: http://home.hccnet.nl/a.van.belle/MRTG/dvbdataex-snr-p1-tbs6983-tunera.html
T2 is a bit lower at 11.2 dB SNR: http://home.hccnet.nl/a.van.belle/MRTG/dvbdataex-snr-p1-tbs6983-tunerb.html
Greetings,
Arne van Belle
==================================================================================

Whatever has caused the SNR drop in my signal I have ruled out skew and dish alignment which have been checked and are fine. Eumetsat have no knowledge of any changes, so I am left with the conclusion that it has to be some change in the satellite.

Regards
Ian.

Re: EUMETCastView v1.4.0

Christian Peters
 

Hugo,

looks good now. Thank you very much!

Regards,

Christian

Am 04.07.18 um 14:07 schrieb Hugo:

Hi,

I solved some problems with the 'Snow RGB' and 'Day Microphysics RGB'. They are now very close to the 'official' RGB's found on http://oiswww.eumetsat.org/IPPS/html/MSG/RGB/
The differences are due to the way the IR_039 sun reflection is calculated.
You can download the latest version from https://github.com/hvanruys/EUMETCastView/releases 

@Simon
I misinterpret the document of Daniel Rosenfeld in my previous release. The method he described for calculating the IR_039 sun reflection seems to work, at least for the Snow and Day Microphysics RGB's.
Also, I noticed that on the website of Eumetsat (for the Day Microphysics RGB's ) for pixels close to the twilight zone, there are sometimes patches that seems wrong. They are produced when the calculated thermal part is greater than the effective radiance of channel IR_039. This is of course not possible. I put the thermal part in these cases equal to the effective radiance of IR_039.

grts,

Hugo

 

Re: TP-1 SNR.

a_van_belle
 

Remarkable that John sees a lot a variation, Ian is clearly on the edge of the footprint which does add more variations but John's location should not be affected.
John your recent change is most likely due to the Cross-polarised signal that switches on and off at irregular times.
Adjusting your LNB skew  for max SNR should get rid of this.
The daily variation could be noise generated from the heated pavement (then minimal SNR at max, sun) or a slight dish miss-alignment combined with the figure 8 satellite wobble.


Over here nothing but steady SNR now that we have not had any rain for over a month !
My dish is mounted on a south-facing wall that heats up enormous with 30 degrees (measured in the shade !)
But my pavement under the dish is mostly shaded and at 2 meters distance. So I don't see any daily variation.
T1 shows a steady 11.8 db SNR:    http://home.hccnet.nl/a.van.belle/MRTG/dvbdataex-snr-p1-tbs6983-tunera.html
T2 is a bit lower at 11.2 dB SNR:   http://home.hccnet.nl/a.van.belle/MRTG/dvbdataex-snr-p1-tbs6983-tunerb.html

Greetings,
Arne van Belle

Re: TP-1 SNR.

Ian Deans
 

On 04/07/2018 14:58, geojohnt via Groups.Io wrote:
Dear All,
I've had a response from EUMETSAT regarding my lower overall SNR over the last couple of months.
For quite a long time earlier this year my daily SNR variation was 13.8/.9 to 14.3/.4 - that was March/April time.
So, a 0.6 dB variation - with a 0.6 dB variation in link margin.
For many weeks now my daily SNR variation has been 13.4 dB (sometimes 13.3) in the mornings to 13.9/14.00.
A variation of 0.6 dB - with a 0.6 dB variation in link margin.
The same span but overall lower (clear sky readings).
[1 m dish, Inverto Black Ultra and SR1.]
EUMETSAT comment:
Our engineers think that what you reported is a normal daily variation
due to different possible reasons. They pointed that your link margin
values are good and they would also like to confirm that there have not
been any 'satellite RF changes' on our side.
++++++
Of course, the sun is very high at the moment and no doubt the 'atmosphere' very active.
High ambient temperatures and sun baked LNB and dish.
Not that I want the year to pass any quicker than it is, but it will be interesting to see what happens when autumn arrives.
I have a new satellite listing site which lists EUMETCast 11.262 GHz H as C2 (not C4) and no transponder on 11.262 GHz V - as such - but lists 11.259 GHz V C3.
https://en.kingofsat.net/pos-10E.php
Regards,
John.
==================================================================

Thanks for the update John.

I too see a variation of approx. 0.7 SNR over a 24 hour period and I still do, but like yourself my overall signal is down about 0.5/0.6 SNR.

The drop has now been for a number of weeks and is disappointing having spent a good deal of time getting the maximum out of my dish and LNB. This far north you need all the signal you can get and I now find that I am 12.7 to 13.00 SNR during the day, instead of about 13.5/13.6.

I have a 1.1 metre dish and use a SR1 and TBS 5925. I have a newer TBS 5927 but the on-line drivers available fail on my Windows 10 computer in spite of many trials, making the box unusable. "Not for this platform" is the error !!!!

Regards
Ian.

TP-1 SNR.

geojohnt@...
 

Dear All,

I've had a response from EUMETSAT regarding my lower overall SNR over the last couple of months.

For quite a long time earlier this year my daily SNR variation was 13.8/.9 to 14.3/.4 - that was March/April time.
So, a 0.6 dB variation - with a 0.6 dB variation in link margin.

For many weeks now my daily SNR variation has been 13.4 dB (sometimes 13.3) in the mornings to 13.9/14.00.
A variation of 0.6 dB - with a 0.6 dB variation in link margin.

The same span but overall lower (clear sky readings).
[1 m dish, Inverto Black Ultra and SR1.]

EUMETSAT comment:

Our engineers think that what you reported is a normal daily variation
due to different possible reasons. They pointed that your link margin
values are good and they would also like to confirm that there have not
been any 'satellite RF changes' on our side.

++++++

Of course, the sun is very high at the moment and no doubt the 'atmosphere' very active.
High ambient temperatures and sun baked LNB and dish.
Not that I want the year to pass any quicker than it is, but it will be interesting to see what happens when autumn arrives.

I have a new satellite listing site which lists EUMETCast 11.262 GHz H as C2 (not C4) and no transponder on 11.262 GHz V - as such - but lists 11.259 GHz V C3.


Regards,
John.

EUMETCastView v1.4.0

Hugo
 

Hi,

I solved some problems with the 'Snow RGB' and 'Day Microphysics RGB'. They are now very close to the 'official' RGB's found on http://oiswww.eumetsat.org/IPPS/html/MSG/RGB/
The differences are due to the way the IR_039 sun reflection is calculated.
You can download the latest version from https://github.com/hvanruys/EUMETCastView/releases 

@Simon
I misinterpret the document of Daniel Rosenfeld in my previous release. The method he described for calculating the IR_039 sun reflection seems to work, at least for the Snow and Day Microphysics RGB's.
Also, I noticed that on the website of Eumetsat (for the Day Microphysics RGB's ) for pixels close to the twilight zone, there are sometimes patches that seems wrong. They are produced when the calculated thermal part is greater than the effective radiance of channel IR_039. This is of course not possible. I put the thermal part in these cases equal to the effective radiance of IR_039.

grts,

Hugo

 

Re: SR1 Ini files

Ferdinand Valk
 

Congrats Peter!

Ferdinand

 

From: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter van der Struijs
Sent: Tuesday, 03 July, 2018 19:14
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] SR1 Ini files

 

Dear all,

I feel so stupid!!! Today i got an email from Eumetcast with my credentials as a reminder.

AND, they where different than the one i used for Tellicast.

So, lesson for myself. The Eumetcast website credentials are different than the one you need for Tellicast. I did not remember that form the past.....

I am so sorry. A lot of people did so much for me. Tried all to help me. And at the end it was a 100000% human error.

Sorry again, but overall a big thank you for all your help!

Peter

Re: SR1 Ini files

Alan Banks
 

We've all been there! Big of you for admitting it!
Glad you are sorted.
Alan

On 03/07/2018 19:13, Peter van der Struijs wrote:
Dear all,
I feel so stupid!!! Today i got an email from Eumetcast with my credentials as a reminder.
AND, they where different than the one i used for Tellicast.
So, lesson for myself. The Eumetcast website credentials are different than the one you need for Tellicast. I did not remember that form the past.....
I am so sorry. A lot of people did so much for me. Tried all to help me. And at the end it was a 100000% human error.
Sorry again, but overall a big thank you for all your help!
Peter

Re: SR1 Ini files

Peter van der Struijs
 

Dear all,

I feel so stupid!!! Today i got an email from Eumetcast with my credentials as a reminder.

AND, they where different than the one i used for Tellicast.

So, lesson for myself. The Eumetcast website credentials are different than the one you need for Tellicast. I did not remember that form the past.....

I am so sorry. A lot of people did so much for me. Tried all to help me. And at the end it was a 100000% human error.

Sorry again, but overall a big thank you for all your help!

Peter

Re: SR1 Ini files

a_van_belle
 

Make sure you do not connect to your receive PC using RDP ( remote desktop)  as this will stop your reception.
I use thightVNC to control my receive PC remotely.

Have you double checked your username and userpassword that was supplied bij Eumetsat ?
Both are case sensitive and to my knowledge the username does never contain spaces !
There is no feedback if you entered it wrong, there simply won't come any data in !

If you see the line "user_key_crypt=" in your ini file then it is encrypted during install, you cannot edit this line anymore. And a copy of your .ini file will not work on another PC.
I prefer to change "user_key_crypt="  into "user_key="  and then enter the password in plain text without spaces.
Check this site https://www.eumetsat.int/website/home/Data/DataDelivery/EUMETCast/ReceptionStationSetup/Troubleshooting/index.html
B) Windows, B1,  B1.1

Greetings,
Arne van Belle

Re: SR1 Ini files

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

From: Peter van der Struijs


Thanks jumping in David,

My log.

==============================

I guess you've already sent the log to EUMETSAT for analysis?

Cheers,
David
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Re: SR1 Ini files

Peter van der Struijs
 

And here a screendump from Tellicast:

Re: SR1 Ini files

Peter van der Struijs
 

Thanks jumping in David,

My log.

MSG:2018-07-02 10:48:04.387:Program started =============
MSG:2018-07-02 10:48:04.387:Watchdog starting... [6016]
MSG:2018-07-02 10:48:04.387:Watchdog started [6016].
MSG:2018-07-02 10:48:05.595:Starting new child...
MSG:2018-07-02 10:48:05.595:Started new child [5148]. VRB:2018-07-02 10:48:05.815:Child connecting to watchdog on port 51428 ...
MSG:2018-07-02 10:48:05.815:Log level is "verbose".
MSG:2018-07-02 10:48:06.724:tc-cast-client starting... [5148] MSG:2018-07-02 10:48:06.724:tc-cast-client version is 2.14.2 (201610250829391) revision 09edebc8c3d5 win32-i86pc release (Windows 7 Home Premium, Version 6.1.7601, Service Pack 1 on a 4-processor (GenuineIntel, Pentium III (Model 23, Stepping 10)) system) MSG:2018-07-02 10:48:06.744:License check succeeded VRB:2018-07-02 10:48:06.744:Starting HTTP server at port 8100 on any interface ... MSG:2018-07-02 10:48:06.774:tc-cast-client running [5148]. VRB:2018-07-02 10:48:06.774:No source addresses specified. Client will start in any source mode VRB:2018-07-02 10:48:06.774:Connecting to announcement channel `TSL Announcement Channel', address 224.223.222.223:4711 (announcement channel) VRB:2018-07-02 10:48:06.804:Opened multicast udp socket 224.223.222.223:4711 on 0.0.0.0 for TSL Announcement Channel VRB:2018-07-02 10:48:07.314:Dongle support activated. VRB:2018-07-02 10:48:07.924:Received time signal on announcement channel `TSL Announcement Channel': 2018-07-02 10:48:09 UTC MSG:2018-07-02 10:48:07.924:Connected to announcement channel `TSL Announcement Channel', address 224.223.222.223:4711 (announcement channel)

Re: SR1 Ini files

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Yes David, i know. But that did not work. Also the ini files Nigel and Ferdinand send me dont work.

Everything looks ok (by me) but nu data channels.
========================

The sample files sent by EUMETSAT do work, so you need to look further into the system.

What is in the TelliCast log file? Could you post a few lines from the file? How does yours compare with mine below?

MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:08.786:Program started =============
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:08.786:Watchdog starting... [2412]
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:08.786:Watchdog started [2412].
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:09.583:Starting new child...
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:09.583:Started new child [5184].
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:09.896:Log level is "normal".
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:10.349:tc-cast-client starting... [5184]
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:10.349:tc-cast-client version is 2.14.2 (201610250829391) revision 09edebc8c3d5 win32-i86pc release ( 6.2.9200 on a 4-processor (GenuineIntel, Pentium III (Model 60, Stepping 3)) system)
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:10.365:License check succeeded
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:10.443:tc-cast-client running [5184].
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:19.755:Connected to announcement channel `TSL Announcement Channel', address 224.223.222.223:4711 (announcement channel)
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:19.755:Receiver active
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:27.739:Connected to data channel `E1B-TPL-1', address 224.223.222.27:7055 (invited)
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:29.942:tc-cast-client shutting down... [5184]
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:29.942:File transmission fc7a3aff007829c9 ended/interrupted: filelist missing/incomplete
MSG:2018-06-30 16:54:29.942:Disconnect from announcement channel `TSL Announcement Channel', address 224.223.222.223:4711 completed (shutdown)

Cheers,
David
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Email: david-taylor@...
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Re: SR1 Ini files

Peter van der Struijs
 

Yes David, i know. But that did not work. Also the ini files Nigel and Ferdinand send me dont work.

Everything looks ok (by me) but nu data channels.

Re: SR1 Ini files

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hello guys.

As mentioned in another post i have problems with my SR1.

To eliminate user errro from my side, is the somebody who will post there ini files?
And than for the "new"2.14.2 version of tellicast.

So: cast-client_bas.ini and cast-client-channels_bas.ini

Thanks in advance.

You can send them to struijs at Hotmail . com if you want.
====================

Peter,

I believe that suitable files are included in the EUMETSAT installer. Of course, you may need to edit these to suit your exact configuration - e.g. using a RAMdisk for the temp or tem & received files.

Thanks for Ferdinand for sending a sample, and I believe that Nigel has sent you a sample as well.

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv

Re: SR1 Ini files

Ferdinand Valk
 

Sent to your direct mail

 

From: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter van der Struijs
Sent: Sunday, 01 July, 2018 22:21
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: [MSG-1] SR1 Ini files

 

Hello guys.

As mentioned in another post i have problems with my SR1.

To eliminate user errro from my side, is the somebody who will post there ini files?
And than for the "new"2.14.2 version of tellicast.

So: cast-client_bas.ini and cast-client-channels_bas.ini

Thanks in advance.

You can send them to struijs at Hotmail . com if you want.

SR1 Ini files

Peter van der Struijs
 

Hello guys.

As mentioned in another post i have problems with my SR1.

To eliminate user errro from my side, is the somebody who will post there ini files?
And than for the "new"2.14.2 version of tellicast.

So: cast-client_bas.ini and cast-client-channels_bas.ini

Thanks in advance.

You can send them to struijs at Hotmail . com if you want.

Re: SR1 only announcement channel

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Thank you for your answer.

No errors in the log. Token is ok.

Peter van der Struijs
====================================

Peter,

I understand someone will help you soon.

When answering a group e-mail, please reply to: MSG-1@groups.io

Cheers,
David
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Twitter: @gm8arv