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MSG licence for French users

f5hcc <f5hcc@...>
 

Hello.
I had today a phone conversation with someone at Meteo France who is
in charge of the licencing in France.
I was asking for the delivery of the EKU by Eumetsat (Eumetsat's
help desk told me that they were waiting for Meteo France to send
back the licences of french users).
A nice woman told me that the licences will be issued free of charge
for French users assuming that they use MSG data for self-education
or amateur use and that they don't broadcast the received data on
Internet in real time.
That's good news for French users !
We'll have only to pay for the EKU (and of course for Tellique
client and receiving equipment).
All French users registered by Eumetsat will receive a "convention"
they'll have to fill in and send back to Meteo France who will
forward the agreement to Eumetsat.
This "convention" will be sent by e-mail or by snail-mail, depending
on the informations given by the users on their registration form.
Fabrice, F5HCC.


Re: Kepler data for MSG-1

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

MSG-1
1 27509U 02040B 04009.81730652 -.00000069 00000-0 00000+0 0
5423
2 27509 0.9733 315.4823 0001182 160.9961 275.9639 1.00272899
5090

Many thanks, Steve, but that's the same 10-day old data that I have.

Cheers,
David


Re: Kepler data for MSG-1

Steve Blackmore <steve@...>
 

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:09:29 -0000, you wrote:

Does anyone have current Kepler data for MSG-1?

It is supposed to be in an orbital move from 10W to 3.5W, but the most
recent data I have from Celestrak is from around January 10th, before the
move began.

It would be fun to watch this drift and see how the image quality of data
from the eastern limb improves with orbital position!
MSG-1
1 27509U 02040B 04009.81730652 -.00000069 00000-0 00000+0 0 5423
2 27509 0.9733 315.4823 0001182 160.9961 275.9639 1.00272899 5090


From

http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/weather.txt


--
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Re: Kepler data for MSG-1

Luca Bertagnolio <lucaberta@...>
 

David,

same set of data on NASA OIG.

By checking the last 5 TLEs, it doesn't look like there is a definite
pattern, as TLEs are separated by anywhere from 2 to 6 days, and in
one case there were two TLEs few minutes apart.

Too bad!

Bye, Luca

--- In MSG-1@..., "David J Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
Does anyone have current Kepler data for MSG-1?

It is supposed to be in an orbital move from 10W to 3.5W, but the
most
recent data I have from Celestrak is from around January 10th,
before the
move began.

It would be fun to watch this drift and see how the image quality
of data
from the eastern limb improves with orbital position!


Kepler data for MSG-1

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Does anyone have current Kepler data for MSG-1?

It is supposed to be in an orbital move from 10W to 3.5W, but the most
recent data I have from Celestrak is from around January 10th, before the
move began.

It would be fun to watch this drift and see how the image quality of data
from the eastern limb improves with orbital position!

Thanks,
David
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Dutch licenses.

johnrigsec@...
 

All,

I have been informed by Arne that the Dutch licenses are actually written in
English despite what was originally posted.
Ferdinand has conformed there is no handling charge in Holland for issuing of
licenses.

One thought - if you already had an EKU from EUMETSAT during the trial period
and for those who will be applying now, EUMETSAT will not, I understand,
'switch on' your EKU till they have received confirmation from the national Met.
Offices that they have in turn received your signed license agreement back.

But then, I thought, you would not be offered the ability to purchase the EKU
by EUMETSAT till they had been informed of your licensed status.

Anyway .....

Regards,
John Tellick.
RIG.


Re: MSG Licenses in "overseas" countries?

fvalk <fvalk@...>
 

Just to clarify, it is correct that the dues for the SKU and the software need
to be paid. However that has nothing to do with the KNMI. Its position has been
very constructive and cooperative in this affair and there is no charge by KNMI
for the service of handling the licenses.

Ferdinand Valk

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Eric-Jan W�sten <pa3cev@...>

bottom line is you have to pay.

Oh well,


Eric PA3CEV


Re: MSG Licenses in "overseas" countries?

Eric-Jan Wösten <pa3cev@...>
 

At 11:19 14-01-04 +0000, Luca Bertagnolio wrote:
I always like the british term "overseas"... as if they are not the
ones living on an Island!!! ;-)

Anyway, back to the topic... I read that the UK Met Office has sent
out quite a few licenses for MSG-1 reception, a needed step in order
to get the eToken from EUMETSAT.

Did anybody else in other countries have seen any similar activity
from the local licensing authority? Haven't heard anything here in
Belgium for sure yet...
Yup,

got mail from the dutch "KNMI", being the licensing authority.

bottom line is you have to pay.

Oh well,


Eric PA3CEV


Re: trouble

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@..., Ap van Weeren <apvweeren@y...> wrote:
Hello David T,
Mni tks for yr advice. The trouble was (I found that
a few minutes ago) the firewall protection(from
windowsXP) was switched "on" in the network device.
Purple is back and Ap is happy.
Thanks for the report back, Ap, and good to hear it is sorted. I
forget to suggest checking Firewalls!

Cheers,
David


trouble

Ap van Weeren
 

Many tks to you all, for the advices and help. As I
already mentioned to David, the trouble was that the
firewall from WindowsXP was switched on in the network
device (here called "lan nr 4 B2C2 broadbandreceiver")
for unknown reasons.
Pretty weekend to all, tks
Ap

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trouble

Ap van Weeren
 

Hello David T,
Mni tks for yr advice. The trouble was (I found that
a few minutes ago) the firewall protection(from
windowsXP) was switched "on" in the network device.
Purple is back and Ap is happy.
As always tks and fine weekend.
Ap

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Re: EKU licence and EKU

fvalk <fvalk@...>
 

John,

The Dutch licenses are for a period of three years and no handling charges
apply.

Ferdinand

From: johnrigsec@...

I'd be interested to hear from Arne how long the Dutch licenses are
valid and from users in other member states if they have been charged
and how long their licenses are valid.

It seems we might have to do a little bit more persuading?

Regards,
John Tellick.
RIG.


Re: EKU licence and EKU

Robert Moore
 

Ian,
Lloyds charged me about �5 (possibly less, I forget)

Robert



Quoting Ian S Deans <ian@...>:

Gerald, thanks for the mail.
Yes 40 Euros is about �28 and my bank will charge �14 for the transfer so it
would indeed be nice if Visa was an option.
I worked for my bank for 30 years and still have to pay the charges (
miserable lot !!! )

Regards

Ian

----- Original Message -----
From: "gerald ashford" <gerald.ashford@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] EKU licence and EKU


hello ian
we hav'nt talked before my name is gerald i had my email today aswell and
that was one of the questions i asked so i am hoping for the visa option as
the bank charges a lot
cheers
gerald





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Re: EKU licence and EKU

Robert Moore
 

Me too

Robert


Quoting John Willis <john@...>:

Dear all,

I have just had an e-mail from Pamela at Eumetsat confirming I have a UK
licence and promising to send updated software and an invoice for the EKU as
soon as I confirm that I have the old software.

Good News!

Many thanks to all who have pushed through the processing to this stage and
especially John Tellick, David Taylor and the staff at Eumetsat.

Thank you all!

John Willis









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Re: trouble

Ap van Weeren
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "David Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
--- In MSG-1@..., Ap van Weeren <apvweeren@y...> wrote:
Hello ,
Got today a yellow icon insteda of purple, couldn't
finf the cause.Uninstalled/installed the Tellique
software still the same, during the installation a
message abt userkey.ini, in the logfile teh following:

ERR:2004-01-16 13:11:38.890:Cannot start HTTP server
at port 2517 on all interfaces: (Address already in
use)
The seems to imply that the Tellique software was already running
at
the time. I can't think of anything else that would try to
installa
Web server on port 2517.

[]
What can be the case. Any help appreciated.
Cheers, Ap van Weeren
Does that make any sense, Ap?

The most frequent cause of the problem that I have heard is that
somehow the network address of the DVB card becomes incorrect.
Look
for a newtwork device with B2C2 Broadband Receiver in the name,
and
check it is set to: 192.168.238.238

Cheers,
David
David, I checked the network device, is ok, setup4Pc also, in the
HTMLshell I see this under License:

tq®-TELLICAST Server License:
Server Address:
not yet received
License Class: not yet received
OEM License: not yet received
MSG:2004-01-16 21:00:38.359:Watchdog starting... [2952]
MSG:2004-01-16 21:00:38.359:Watchdog started [2952].
MSG:2004-01-16 21:00:38.640:Starting new child...
MSG:2004-01-16 21:00:38.640:Started new child [3528].
I installed again the Tell.software, and that sounded good but the
yellow T remains.
Any idea, as always mni tks, gr,
Ap
Description:
not yet received
The last part in the log file gives this:


Re: trouble

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@..., Ap van Weeren <apvweeren@y...> wrote:
Hello ,
Got today a yellow icon insteda of purple, couldn't
finf the cause.Uninstalled/installed the Tellique
software still the same, during the installation a
message abt userkey.ini, in the logfile teh following:

ERR:2004-01-16 13:11:38.890:Cannot start HTTP server
at port 2517 on all interfaces: (Address already in
use)
The seems to imply that the Tellique software was already running at
the time. I can't think of anything else that would try to installa
Web server on port 2517.

[]
What can be the case. Any help appreciated.
Cheers, Ap van Weeren
Does that make any sense, Ap?

The most frequent cause of the problem that I have heard is that
somehow the network address of the DVB card becomes incorrect. Look
for a newtwork device with B2C2 Broadband Receiver in the name, and
check it is set to: 192.168.238.238

Cheers,
David


Re: trouble

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

A little question maybe someone knows the answer: when I look in
the log file from MSG data manager I see that also files from CLM
are send down but under the tab MPEF I see only CLAI and CTH. Is
this something that is coming in future in the MDM?

Ton,

As far as I know, the MPEF data is currently only being sent to a
limited set of recipients. The only image-type data is the CLAI and
CTH that you are seeing. The rest are GRIB+ and BUFR+ format files
(not images) which the MSG Data Manager will save for you to process
further.

I don't know if access to those files is part of the Amateur Licence
package.

Cheers,
David


Re: EKU licence and EKU

Guy Martin <agm@...>
 

That's good, its all coming together.

Guy

----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Deans
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] EKU licence and EKU



----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Martin" <agm@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] EKU licence and EKU


> Hello Douglas,
>
> Further to my last post, I have just received an e-mail from Eumetsat, so
I guess yours will be along shortly.
>
> Cheers, Guy


......and me now me as well.

Thanks
Douglas.




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Re: EKU licence and EKU

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Martin" <agm@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] EKU licence and EKU


Hello Douglas,

Further to my last post, I have just received an e-mail from Eumetsat, so
I guess yours will be along shortly.

Cheers, Guy

......and me now me as well.

Thanks
Douglas.


Re: EKU licence and EKU

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Martin" <agm@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] EKU licence and EKU


Hello Douglas,

Further to my last post, I have just received an e-mail from Eumetsat, so
I guess yours will be along shortly.

Cheers, Guy

That's excellent Guy, thanks for the info.

Regards
Douglas.