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Smoke

Ap van Weeren
 

Does anybody know what I see on the today 1600z HRV
pic in the Gulf of Guinee, wreath of smoke?
Tks,
Ap van Weeren

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Re: segments awol

Ian S Deans <ian@...>
 

John,

Many thanks for your fast reply. This lack of TV4PC with the updated
software is a little strange. In the Technisat site where information is
available about the updated drivers/software, reference is made to the patch
for Media Player 9 and to Direct X 9 in connection with problems that may
arise with TV4PC.
This clearly suggests that it is part of the package.

Thanks again

Ian.
Re: *.bfr+ and *.grb+ files

seggins2000 <seggins2000@...>
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "David Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
--- In MSG-1@..., "seggins2000" <seggins2000@y...>
wrote:
David,

Unfortunatley the program NDFD is only able to decode *.grib2
files. I'll have a hunt round and see what I can find as well.

John
Do try renaming the files, though, as ".grb+" was my own invention
(I think) and not any sort of standard.....

Cheers,
David
David,

Tried that. No go I'm afraid..

But thanks all the same.

John
Re: MDM and ATOVS query

Guy Martin <agm@...>
 

This doesn't seem to have happened yet. My original user/key still works and
as my EKU will arrive on Monday,( they tried to deliver Friday when no-one
was in), I haven't changed anything.

Cheers, Guy

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Thexton" <john@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Re: MDM and ATOVS query


Douglas

On the 10.2.04 i recieved a OPS bulletin giving a temp user name for 17 02
04 to 2 03 04 as on 17th all trial user names will be invalidated.

Regards

John
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Deans
To: MSG-1
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Re: MDM and ATOVS query

http://www.gordano.com - Messaging for educators.
Re: MDM and ATOVS query

James Brown
 

In message <c0l39v+no9q@...>, David Taylor <david-taylor@...> writes
--- In MSG-1@..., James Brown <satellite@m...> wrote:
[]
I think I have two conclusions at the moment. The ATOVS files are
less frequent than I imagined, but like you I have lost access to
them using the EKU.

Just imagine a NOAA-16 (or 15 or 17) pass. There is a receiving
station in Spain, and one in Norway (plus others). You should get
ATOVS data within about 30 minutes of a pass being complete at a
station.
That's right, but didn't I see somewhere there is a Canadian one as well which contributes? OTOH - might just be my imagination. Thanks though for the check.

I think after some more continuous testing an e-mail to ops will
be the only way.

I guess for yourself it may be a case of staff returning on Monday?
There were User Support people working at Eumetsat last Sunday - I
saw them for myself! Can't guarantee they do that every Sunday,
though! It was a rather miserable day, and I only missed the snow
by being inside for lunch!

Cheers,
David
Well that's interesting. Perhaps now Meteosat 8 is fully operational, the manning is more continuous. Perhaps they might even welcome a project! I'll put in a note in a while if my tests prove conclusive. Thanks David

James
--
James Brown
Re: *.bfr+ and *.grb+ files

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "seggins2000" <seggins2000@y...> wrote:
David,

Unfortunatley the program NDFD is only able to decode *.grib2
files. I'll have a hunt round and see what I can find as well.

John
Do try renaming the files, though, as ".grb+" was my own invention
(I think) and not any sort of standard.....

Cheers,
David
Re: MDM and ATOVS query

seggins2000 <seggins2000@...>
 

--- In MSG-1@..., James Brown <satellite@m...> wrote:
In message <c0l1qp+hprb@e...>, seggins2000
<seggins2000@y...> writes
James,

The email I received from OPS states that the fault is at their end
(in my case, at least):

"Dear Mr. Say

I have just seen your MSG1 yahoo group message and have checked the
activation of your EKU. It would appear that you do not have
access
to EARS data anymore. We will amend this as soon as possible.

Please accept our apologies for this oversight.

Regards"

I, however, do not know what is supposed to happen next...

John
Hi John,

I am in the process of experimenting here using David Taylor's
excellent
suggestion, but have had a strange result. I switched to the trial
user
name and password and just after 1100 started receiving some
channel 1
noaa bz2 files. Then I switched to the encrypted stream and no more
files. Left it a while - about 10 minutes - no more files, so
switched
back to trial user - no more files until about 1150 then a stream
more.
But switching back to encrypted has given no bz2 files.

I think I have two conclusions at the moment. The ATOVS files are
less
frequent than I imagined, but like you I have lost access to them
using
the EKU. I think after some more continuous testing an e-mail to
ops
will be the only way.

I guess for yourself it may be a case of staff returning on Monday?
Although - when did you get the e-mail may I enquire?
Cheers,
James
--
James Brown
James

Yes, like you all the MC's work. I got the email on 13/02/2004. I
would not be surprised if we get a new password sent...

Monday.........probably

John
Re: MDM and ATOVS query

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@..., James Brown <satellite@m...> wrote:
[]
I think I have two conclusions at the moment. The ATOVS files are
less frequent than I imagined, but like you I have lost access to
them using the EKU.

Just imagine a NOAA-16 (or 15 or 17) pass. There is a receiving
station in Spain, and one in Norway (plus others). You should get
ATOVS data within about 30 minutes of a pass being complete at a
station.

I think after some more continuous testing an e-mail to ops will
be the only way.

I guess for yourself it may be a case of staff returning on Monday?
There were User Support people working at Eumetsat last Sunday - I
saw them for myself! Can't guarantee they do that every Sunday,
though! It was a rather miserable day, and I only missed the snow
by being inside for lunch!

Cheers,
David
Re: *.bfr+ and *.grb+ files

seggins2000 <seggins2000@...>
 

David,

Unfortunatley the program NDFD is only able to decode *.grib2 files.
I'll have a hunt round and see what I can find as well.

John

--- In MSG-1@..., "seggins2000" <seggins2000@y...> wrote:
David,
I've downloaded this and will let you know how I get on.
Many thanks.
John

--- In MSG-1@..., "David J Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
From the limited information in the last Eumetsat bulletin, they
sound as though they have some interesting information
contained
in
them.

Is there any way they can be viewed and, if so, do you know
what
they
show?
John,

They are vector and (perhaps) raster format files. As I
understand
it,
each file can contain one or more graphics. There was a decoder
mentioned
at:

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/mdl/NDFD_GRIB2Decoder/

but I haven't really played with it at all.

Cheers,
David
Re: MDM and ATOVS query

James Brown
 

In message <c0l1qp+hprb@...>, seggins2000 <seggins2000@...> writes
James,

The email I received from OPS states that the fault is at their end
(in my case, at least):

"Dear Mr. Say

I have just seen your MSG1 yahoo group message and have checked the
activation of your EKU. It would appear that you do not have access
to EARS data anymore. We will amend this as soon as possible.

Please accept our apologies for this oversight.

Regards"

I, however, do not know what is supposed to happen next...

John
Hi John,

I am in the process of experimenting here using David Taylor's excellent suggestion, but have had a strange result. I switched to the trial user name and password and just after 1100 started receiving some channel 1 noaa bz2 files. Then I switched to the encrypted stream and no more files. Left it a while - about 10 minutes - no more files, so switched back to trial user - no more files until about 1150 then a stream more. But switching back to encrypted has given no bz2 files.

I think I have two conclusions at the moment. The ATOVS files are less frequent than I imagined, but like you I have lost access to them using the EKU. I think after some more continuous testing an e-mail to ops will be the only way.

I guess for yourself it may be a case of staff returning on Monday?
Although - when did you get the e-mail may I enquire?
Cheers,
James
--
James Brown
Re: MDM and ATOVS query

seggins2000 <seggins2000@...>
 

James,

The email I received from OPS states that the fault is at their end
(in my case, at least):

"Dear Mr. Say

I have just seen your MSG1 yahoo group message and have checked the
activation of your EKU. It would appear that you do not have access
to EARS data anymore. We will amend this as soon as possible.

Please accept our apologies for this oversight.

Regards"

I, however, do not know what is supposed to happen next...

John


--- In MSG-1@..., James Brown <satellite@m...> wrote:
Many thanks to all who responded to this enquiry.

What I have confirmed is that it appears I am not now receiving
ATOVS
data on channel 1, whereas at the beginning I was. I have two
versions
of the Tellique software which I can switch between, the first
using the
original user name and password, the second the new one supplied by
e-mail with the EKU. Neither get channel 1. I have double checked
the
500 PID is in place. So I think it's a case of a quick e-mail to
ops on
Monday to see what has happened. I don't think there was meant to
be any
specific cut off of ATOVS to trial users during this last year was
there?

Checking the paperwork I seem to have a copy of the TD15 document,
which
would tie in with my memory of how I first came into the MSG trial,
along I guess with others.

I'm sure it will end up being a simple thing, so thanks once again
to
all.

James
--
James Brown
Re: *.bfr+ and *.grb+ files

seggins2000 <seggins2000@...>
 

David,
I've downloaded this and will let you know how I get on.
Many thanks.
John

--- In MSG-1@..., "David J Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
From the limited information in the last Eumetsat bulletin, they
sound as though they have some interesting information contained
in
them.

Is there any way they can be viewed and, if so, do you know what
they
show?
John,

They are vector and (perhaps) raster format files. As I understand
it,
each file can contain one or more graphics. There was a decoder
mentioned
at:

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/mdl/NDFD_GRIB2Decoder/

but I haven't really played with it at all.

Cheers,
David
Re: segments awol

seggins2000 <seggins2000@...>
 

Ian,

TV4PC is not part of the package. I agree with you, it is better
than DVBViewer. I used to use the TV4PC to watch BBC World - the
rest was in a language I could not understand or pornogrphic!

It might well be possible to try installing TV4PC from the original
CD and see if it would run. I disappeared when the old setup was
removed to install the new.

John


--- In MSG-1@..., "Ian S Deans" <ian@i...> wrote:
John,

I have now downloaded latest drivers from Technisat as you
suggested and now
up and running with new drivers. All appears well, although I am
still
awaiting my EKU. One point that I would like to check with you.
With the new
drivers loaded there is no TV4PC option available now on a right
click
although DVBViewer is available to install. Is this correct that
TV4PC
option is no longer available with the new drivers. To be honest I
preferred
the TV4PC option for TV rather than the DVBViewer.

Thanks again

Regards

Ian.

----- Original Message -----
From: "seggins2000" <seggins2000@y...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 6:16 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: segments awol


Ian

Get the latest driver from Technisat.
Install same
Right click the icon in the task bar and choose "Eumetsat"(not on
the
older driver). You may have "T-Systems" checked.
"Set up" should then give you a good value.
I am in Co Durham and have a 85cm dish.

Good luck!
John.
Re: segments awol

Ian S Deans <ian@...>
 

John,

I have now downloaded latest drivers from Technisat as you suggested and now
up and running with new drivers. All appears well, although I am still
awaiting my EKU. One point that I would like to check with you. With the new
drivers loaded there is no TV4PC option available now on a right click
although DVBViewer is available to install. Is this correct that TV4PC
option is no longer available with the new drivers. To be honest I preferred
the TV4PC option for TV rather than the DVBViewer.

Thanks again

Regards

Ian.

----- Original Message -----
From: "seggins2000" <seggins2000@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 6:16 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: segments awol


Ian

Get the latest driver from Technisat.
Install same
Right click the icon in the task bar and choose "Eumetsat"(not on the
older driver). You may have "T-Systems" checked.
"Set up" should then give you a good value.
I am in Co Durham and have a 85cm dish.

Good luck!
John.
Re: MDM and ATOVS query

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@..., James Brown <satellite@m...> wrote:
[]
I have double checked the 500 PID is in place. So I think it's a
case of a quick e-mail to ops on Monday to see what has happened. I
don't think there was meant to be any specific cut off of ATOVS to
trial users during this last year was there?
I don't think so, James. It _might_ be worth checking the
Statistics screen of the Setup4PC software, I _think_ the four
multicast addresses (Type = MC) correspond to the four PIDs (you may
need to wait a moment for channel 1 MC to be active and all 4 MC
addresses to show. You need to wait until ATOVS data is
transmitted....).

See the bottom of page:
http://www.david-taylor.myby.co.uk/wxsat/atovs/index.html

I'm suggesting this as a way of determining if the 500 PID is coming
through the SkyStar portion of the system, even if the Tellique
software is subsequently rejecting access.

Cheers,
David
Re: MDM and ATOVS query

James Brown
 

Many thanks to all who responded to this enquiry.

What I have confirmed is that it appears I am not now receiving ATOVS data on channel 1, whereas at the beginning I was. I have two versions of the Tellique software which I can switch between, the first using the original user name and password, the second the new one supplied by e-mail with the EKU. Neither get channel 1. I have double checked the 500 PID is in place. So I think it's a case of a quick e-mail to ops on Monday to see what has happened. I don't think there was meant to be any specific cut off of ATOVS to trial users during this last year was there?

Checking the paperwork I seem to have a copy of the TD15 document, which would tie in with my memory of how I first came into the MSG trial, along I guess with others.

I'm sure it will end up being a simple thing, so thanks once again to all.

James
--
James Brown
Re: MDM and ATOVS query

John Thexton <john@...>
 

Douglas

On the 10.2.04 i recieved a OPS bulletin giving a temp user name for 17 02 04 to 2 03 04 as on 17th all trial user names will be invalidated.

Regards

John

----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Deans
To: MSG-1
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Re: MDM and ATOVS query



----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Benney" <tugboat@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Re: MDM and ATOVS query


> > --- In MSG-1@..., James Brown <satellite@m...> wrote:
> > > Some while ago I deleted the ATOVS pid from the Tellique setup as
> > I didn't think I would want in the long term to receive and use the
> > data.
> > >
> > > I wanted today to test the new EKU set up and see if ATOVS was
> > included. I have re-instated the 0x01F4 pid but don't seem to be
> > seeing files either using a previous installation (with the old
> > trial user details) or the new one. I wonder could someone clarify:
> > >
> > > 1. Folk on the trial are still receiving ATOVS files.
>
> James,
>
> I registered to receive ATOVS data at the commencement of the EumetCAST
trial.
> I have not yet received an eToken but have been issued with an interim
username
> and password to replace my original one which becomes redundant on the
17th.
> I am still receiving the Channel 1 ATOVS data.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter


That's interesting Peter. My username and password originates from pre MSG
times when I applied for ATOVS. Eumetsat told me the same
username/password would do for MSG.
I am awaiting arrival of the EKU but have not been given an interim password
so I do hope you are wrong about the 17th, although I recall it is what they
said !!

Regards
Douglas.



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Re: MDM and ATOVS query

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "Douglas Deans" <douglas@d...> wrote:
[]
I am awaiting arrival of the EKU but have not been given an
interim password so I do hope you are wrong about the 17th, although
I recall it is what they said !!

Douglas,

The 17th is, I think, just the first day for removing the old
passwords for people who now have eTokens. I vaguely recall that
Eumetsat ask you to check that you have all the services you expect
when you first install the eToken, and report back to them. Only
when they know that you are OK would the old password be taken away,
I guess.

They are very aware of how important an uninterrupted flow of data
is to the users!

Cheers,
David
Re: MDM and ATOVS query

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Benney" <tugboat@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Re: MDM and ATOVS query


--- In MSG-1@..., James Brown <satellite@m...> wrote:
Some while ago I deleted the ATOVS pid from the Tellique setup as
I didn't think I would want in the long term to receive and use the
data.

I wanted today to test the new EKU set up and see if ATOVS was
included. I have re-instated the 0x01F4 pid but don't seem to be
seeing files either using a previous installation (with the old
trial user details) or the new one. I wonder could someone clarify:

1. Folk on the trial are still receiving ATOVS files.
James,

I registered to receive ATOVS data at the commencement of the EumetCAST
trial.
I have not yet received an eToken but have been issued with an interim
username
and password to replace my original one which becomes redundant on the
17th.
I am still receiving the Channel 1 ATOVS data.

Regards,

Peter

That's interesting Peter. My username and password originates from pre MSG
times when I applied for ATOVS. Eumetsat told me the same
username/password would do for MSG.
I am awaiting arrival of the EKU but have not been given an interim password
so I do hope you are wrong about the 17th, although I recall it is what they
said !!

Regards
Douglas.
Re: *.bfr+ and *.grb+ files

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

From the limited information in the last Eumetsat bulletin, they
sound as though they have some interesting information contained in
them.

Is there any way they can be viewed and, if so, do you know what they
show?
John,

They are vector and (perhaps) raster format files. As I understand it,
each file can contain one or more graphics. There was a decoder mentioned
at:

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/mdl/NDFD_GRIB2Decoder/

but I haven't really played with it at all.

Cheers,
David
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