--- In MSG-1@..., "lolwsn" <lawrie@g...> wrote:

Iwonder if anyone else is having problems with the 2.3.1
installshield version of software.
.....

Hello Lawrence,

Have done some testing with the new software:

Had an error when running on W98SE (...userkey.ini could not be
opened). The same software did install correctly on W2K and XP.

Please note that some of our members misread the delivery papers from
Eumetsat and mixed up "Username" and "User key" for EUMETCast with
the login for FTP service . Because the T-system screen prompts you
for "Username" and "Password", just like those given for the FTP
service !

Not sure about this but I think the new software does not allow
manually editing user_key anymore. The install version does encrypt
the user_key in a "user_key_crypt" entry now.

As others suggested, try running the install again and if you see
error messages, copy these screens (Alt-PrintScreen) and paste them
in a Word doc and send it to Eumetsat helpdesk.

Greetings,
Arne van Belle

--- In MSG-1@..., "ltn_wx" <ltn_wx@y...> wrote:

Hello David,

Perhaps aviation enthusiasts have a standard for this?

Only in as much as weather radar is defined and used.

[]

Anyway, that's my "tuppence" worth.

Tim,

Thanks for that. I've tried to define a spectrum-like scale from
red for low clouds through yellow, green, cyan etc up to purple for
the highest clouds (18.6km). It's just my first stab, and if anyone
submits anything better I'll happily provide it as an alternative.

A beta is now available.

Cheers,
David

My access to channel-1 was restored at 15:00 today.
John Say

--- In MSG-1@..., James Brown <satellite@m...> wrote:

In message <c0r1h8+ibvi@e...>, lolwsn
<lawrie@g...> writes

Iwonder if anyone else is having problems with the 2.3.1
installshield version of software.

It says the username/userkey in recv.ini will be automatically
inserted during installation.

In my case it put the new username in ok, but not the new userkey
that was sent by email,the UKU appears to have installed ok.

I am not getting the data channels,only the announcement channel.

I have edited the recv.ini file with the user key but no change.

The Log File says cannot join data channel missing key.

I am at a loss to put my finger on the problem.

Yes, I am experiencing the very same problem.

Can run the previous version and no problems, but with the version
2.3.1 amd EKU do not get the data channels. Have emailed Eumetsat,
but so far no advice received.

Pete Barnard

Any ideas would be most welcome.

Cheers Lawrence Brown

Just a thought, try installing again over the top of the current
installation and see if the dialogue box comes up on the second

attempt

with the keys generated by the programme.

James

Yahoo! Groups Links

--
James Brown

Pleased to report that despite all the animations and trial animations I ran
(as previously described) using Geosatsignal, I have no missing MSG
segments. (Shouldn't this group be renamed Meteosat 8 - L ??)

Cheers
RogerM

Hi Guys,

There was a spectacular sand storm from the Sahara over Lanzarote and
Fuerteventura today. Animation with MSG Data Manager and Geosatsignal is
AMAZING. -- Superb credits to David Taylor for software which allows this to
be produced by amateurs like me.

settings for Geosatsignal Job (Lanzarote) as follows: -

Thermal FC, Histogram Equalise, Crispen More, Remapping Enable
1024x768, Polar Stereographic
Meridian -14, Parallel 29, Span 4
Show Countries, no overlay.


Start with the 1800 MSG image (200402171800-msg-ch12n.jpg) and set
Geosatsignal Job animation options as follows: -

15 mins
36 pictures
2 frames / sec
smooth animation
cache animation

As they say in posh restaurants - Enjoy!

BTW, this animation took 6mins, 18 secs on my PC, but it was running
Tellique receive software, MSG Data Manager, MusicMatch mp3 player and
Photoshop and probably other Windows junk I don't want to know about. I'll
report on missing segments later.

Have fun
Roger Mawhinney
Lurgan, N. Ireland

Hello David,

Perhaps aviation enthusiasts have a standard for this?

Only in as much as weather radar is defined and used. As I'm sure
you are aware, we define and display increasing densities of
precipitation using green, yellow and red. (Later equipment uses
magenta in an attempt to display predictive windshear).

Wx radar is an inexact tool when attempting to determine cloud top
heights. Therefore, to allay confusion I would prefer to see these
primary colours avoided. Perhaps a "sliding scale" of blues would be
more meaningful - certainly to us aviation types!

Anyway, that's my "tuppence" worth.

Rgds.

Tim

I was told 5 working days when I phoned my credit card on Feb 2nd and my payment was cleared on 4 th I spoke to Pamela today
and she said she was doing a large heap tomorrow and hopefully i should recieve it Friday i also rcieved a new password saying i had not applied.

John

I was told 10 to 14 days when I phoned with my Credit Card on Feb 3rd nothing received yet.
More worrying is the email I received with new password etc. saying I was one of the trialist that had not applied for the EKU!!!!

Tony

I have had my updated software and UKU since first week in Feb but it
don't work. Had to fall back on the old system.

No response from eumetsat over the problem so it looks as if I shall
be in the same boat come March.

Cheers Lawrence Brown

David, this is the only reply to date in the newsgroup - it looks very
much as if arbitrary is the order of the day, but here is the reply in
full from Martin Rowley.

James,

Many thanks for that. Even Martin mistakes cloud-top heights for
cloud-top temperatures - it is heights that are being given by Eumetsat in
the CTH image, _not_ temperatures. Perhaps aviation enthusiasts have a
standard for this?

OK, so I will design my own palette for this, and include it with the next
beta. SO far, only two segments of Met-7 data have been sent, but I
understand I get 6-hourly data from 1800. Once I'm confident about the
Met-7 data I can release the beta.

BTW: the CLAI cloud analysis palette remains open to suggestions. I've
dome something but I don't particularly like it!

Many thanks for asking,

Cheers,
David

In message <eNLn2LP4tRMAFwp5@...>, James Brown <satellite@...> writes

In message <033f01c3f4bc$f1f0e070$0600a8c0@...>, David J Taylor
<david-taylor@...> writes

Folks,

Are there any standard colour representations for showing cloud-top
heights? This is for the range 0..18.6km. I don't want to re-invent the
wheel!

Thanks,
David

I've asked in uk.sci.weather as there are some VERY knowledgeable
meteorologists and climatologists there - if they don't know well....
Will get back to you David if there are no others here who can guide
you.

J.

David, this is the only reply to date in the newsgroup - it looks very much as if arbitrary is the order of the day, but here is the reply in full from Martin Rowley.

... I see no-one has replied; possibly because, like me, we're not sure
what you mean ;-)

If you mean is there a standard for colour-slicing of Infra Red (or
indeed any imagery) on workstations, then AFAIK, there isn't. All the
systems I have worked on in the past let you define your own set-up for
colours, depending upon the temperature of the cloud tops. Indeed, many
let you store your own default set-up. I used to find it useful to have
a particular scheme just for cold tops (roughly colder than -30degC), so
that anything colder was a shade of blue or green, with all other set to
grey-scale. You could then tell instantly whether areas of cold topped
cloud were growing (developmental) or decreasing (weakening). Another
useful dodge for night-time was to try and 'tune' the colours of SC/ST
against the land surface - didn't always work of course, but even a
slight difference, when run on a rapid looping cycle, could help decided
where a Sc edge was going. There are many variations on this theme.

Some standard visualisation packages may offer 'default' schemes, but
even these can often be tinkered with.

In monochrome, then of course it has usually been 'standard' for
low-level / warm-topped clouds (e.g. St, Sc) to be dark grey to
near-black, whilst higher-level / cold-topped clouds (e.g. Ci, Cs) to be
white, with very cold (e.g. deep/vigorous Cb tops) the whitest of all.
But even this is not set in stone: it's just how things were done when
APT was first provided as an operational tool back in the 1960's.

HTH

Martin.
--
James Brown

In a message dated 15-02-04 11:04:19 GMT Standard Time,
lawrence@... writes:

I have just realised that it is two weeks or more since I paid for the
EKU unit, but still no sign of the unit or software. This is relevant to
me because I am just writing up about the need to have everything
operational by encryption day on 2 March.

Maybe tomorrow, after my article has gone in!

regards

Lawrence Harris

Lawrence,

My credit card was debited on February 5th and nothing has arrived yet.
I was told when I phoned that it could take up to 5 weeks for various reasons
as I think has been reported here previously.
It seems most have the products in around 2 weeks?

Regards,
John Tellick.

Hello,

I have processed the file with OpenMTPReader and saving pixel data
(*.pix). But i don`t have the raw Photoshop! where i can obtain the
raw Photoshop? or another software(open the *.pix file)? .

FOR PC!

Francisco

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the MSG-1
group.

File : /eToken.jpg
Uploaded by : gm8arv <david-taylor@...>
Description : In case you were wondering how big an eToken was - here's one with 50p piece for size. It's plugged into the from of a computer - a handy feature rather than having to mess round the back of the machine to see if it is glowing red!

You can access this file at the URL

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MSG-1/files/eToken.jpg

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit

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Regards,

gm8arv <david-taylor@...>

David,

I have processed the file with OpenMTPReader and opened the

resultant pix image with raw in Photoshop. Met7 27/07/01 1200z Vis
Full Disk. PNG file 8,696KB.

Peter

Even easier - just load the file into GeoSatSignal! If you
associate OpenMTP files with GeoSatSignal, you can process Met 2, 4,
5, 6 and 7 with a simple double-click.

However, you confirm that the file is Met-7 data and not Met-8 data
(even forecast Met-8 data).

It would be quite helpful if Eumetsat could provide an OpenMTP
sample of Met-8 data on their Web site.

Cheers,
David

It actually claims to be a Met-7 data file, and it's 5000 pixels
square. I wonder if the Met-8 data will be processed down to this
resolution for archiving? Oh well, another question I should have
asked when I was in Darmstadt!

David,

I have processed the file with OpenMTPReader and opened the resultant pix image
with raw in Photoshop. Met7 27/07/01 1200z Vis Full Disk. PNG file 8,696KB.

Peter

--- In MSG-1@..., "Peter Benney" <tugboat@g...> wrote:
[]

http://www.eumetsat.de/en/dps/archive/images/sample/OpenMTP_2001-

07-27_24_74802_1_1_18.VIS

Thanks for that, Peter.

It actually claims to be a Met-7 data file, and it's 5000 pixels
square. I wonder if the Met-8 data will be processed down to this
resolution for archiving? Oh well, another question I should have
asked when I was in Darmstadt!

Cheers,
David

I've asked in uk.sci.weather as there are some VERY knowledgeable

meteorologists and climatologists there - if they don't know
well....

Will get back to you David if there are no others here who can

guide you.

Thanks, James. I expect that it's probably arbitrary. I'm trying
to make it easier to visualise the CTH and CLAI data.

The CLAI (cloud analysis) is more intersting in a way - what colours
might be appropriate for the following? Answers in a standard JASC
or Microsoft palette file, please!

0:=No scene identified; missing input data
1:=Evergreen needleleaf forest
2:=Evergreen broadleaf forest
3:=Deciduous needleleaf forest
4:=Deciduous broadleaf forest
5:=Mixed deciduous forest
6:=Closed shrubland
7:=Open shrubland
8:=Woody savannah
9:=Savannah
10:=Grassland
11:=Permanent wetland
12:=Cropland
13:=Urban
14:=Crop/natural vegetation mosaic
15:=Permanent snow/ice
16:=Barren/desert
17:=Water bodies
18:=Tundra
97:=Snow/ice over land
98:=Snow/ice over water
99:=Clear sunlight
101:=Low-level cloud; Fog or Stratus
102:=Low-level cloud; Cumulus or Stratocumulus
103:=Low-level cloud; unknown type
104:=Mid-level cloud; Nimbostratus
105:=Mid-level cloud; Altocumulus or Altostratus
106:=Mid-level cloud; unknown type
107:=High-level cloud; Cumulonimbus
108:=High-level cloud; Cirrus
109:=High-level cloud; unknown type
110:=Unknown cloud type