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Re: Met 8

James Brown
 

In message <001d01c3efc7$9fb2ee60$eeeea8c0@ian>, Ian S Deans <ian@isdeans.freeserve.co.uk> writes
Appears to be some slight problems this morning. Some of the cycles ( not
monitored all ) are taking a little longer than usual ( ie 10.45 completed
11.02 ) and 10.15 cycle was time stamped at 10.14 requiring a rename on
saved images to avoid animation problems. Country outlines also went a
little adrift, although they appear now to be slowly returning to normal
with each cycle. Met 5 also now in with 10.00 time.

Ian
I'm sure I felt a myself leaping out of the seat at the time... did something hit the earth I wonder :-)))

James
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Met 8

Ian S Deans <ian@...>
 

Appears to be some slight problems this morning. Some of the cycles ( not
monitored all ) are taking a little longer than usual ( ie 10.45 completed
11.02 ) and 10.15 cycle was time stamped at 10.14 requiring a rename on
saved images to avoid animation problems. Country outlines also went a
little adrift, although they appear now to be slowly returning to normal
with each cycle. Met 5 also now in with 10.00 time.

Ian


Re: MSG-1/Meteosat-8 data reception.

johnrigsec@...
 

In a message dated 07-02-04 11:38:24 GMT Standard Time, g.kru@wanadoo.fr
writes:

Bonjour John,

Yes, in France the "license" is free of charge and the duration is 3 years.

Cheers

Gerard
F6BEK
Bonjour Gerard,

Thanks for your information.

Regards,
John Tellick.


Improvements

Lawrence <lawrence@...>
 

Recently my receive computer (1.5GHz) failed with several components,
after only two years use, so I decided to upgrade. The receive machine
was previously my main computer - a 2.4GHz AMD - and is now used to
receive M-8 and do a few other things. I have noticed a huge
improvement in operations. With a reasonable signal strength, the number
of missing segments has vanished! Although not yet optimised, things
are distinctly better.

The next job is to fix the dish permanrently, after maximising the
signal. Then I am going to try a USB receiver.....

best wishes to all.

Lawrence Harris


Re: MSG-1/Meteosat-8 data reception.

g.kruger <g.kru@...>
 

Bonjour John,

Yes, in France the "license" is free of charge and the duration is 3 years.

Cheers

Gerard
F6BEK

----- Original Message -----
From: johnrigsec@aol.com
To: WXSAT-L@huey.met.fsu.edu ; rig-l@yahoogroups.com ; MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 10:01 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] MSG-1/Meteosat-8 data reception.




Has anyone [amateur/educational users] in countries OUTSIDE of UK, Holland,
Belgium, Germany, Spain, Italy and France, taken part in the MSG trials and or
now registered for Meteosat-8 EUMETCast dissemination?

It would be useful to know how your licenses have been dealt with - any
fees/handling charges and the period of license that has been issued.

Regards,
John Tellick.
RIG.





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MSG-1/Meteosat-8 data reception.

johnrigsec@...
 

Has anyone [amateur/educational users] in countries OUTSIDE of UK, Holland,
Belgium, Germany, Spain, Italy and France, taken part in the MSG trials and or
now registered for Meteosat-8 EUMETCast dissemination?

It would be useful to know how your licenses have been dealt with - any
fees/handling charges and the period of license that has been issued.

Regards,
John Tellick.
RIG.


Re: MSG License: good news from Belgium

johnrigsec@...
 

In a message dated 06-02-04 15:53:18 GMT Standard Time,
david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk writes:

GB, NL, B, I, FR - no charge
D, ESP - charge

An opportunity has arisen to perhaps talk informally about this, and
try and get the costs for German and Spanish amateurs reduced, if
not even eliminated.
David,

This does now appear to be the current situation [charges] however, length of
license now seems to be a bit vague in some countries.

So, an informal chat on Monday might be very useful.

Regards,
John Tellick.


Re: MSG License: good news from Belgium

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Is there a charge in Belguim?
you must have missed my reply in an earlier message (#1720), where
I said that there is no user charge in Belgium.

I sent my signed paperwork to both IRM/KMI and EUMETSAT today! :-
)

Bye, Luca
Yes, thanks Luca. I think it was during the "you have been spammed"
episode, so I apologise. So it is now looking like:

GB, NL, B, I, FR - no charge
D, ESP - charge

An opportunity has arisen to perhaps talk informally about this, and
try and get the costs for German and Spanish amateurs reduced, if
not even eliminated.

Cheers,
David


Re: MSG License: good news from Belgium

johnrigsec@...
 

In a message dated 05-02-04 08:20:00 GMT Standard Time, lucaberta@yahoo.com
writes:

I am not sure if there is minimum or maximum time to ask for the
license, so I am looking for experiences from others to avoid
requesting a too long or too short period for my license.
Hi Luca,

Good news your licenses have arrived - and three!
The third will obviously save IRM/KMI having to inform EUMETSAT that you are
licensed.

The UK licenses run for three years from 1st February 2004 to 31st January
2007.
Colin Cuthbert said this was just an arbitrary figure to get things moving
and to see if users wished to continue to be licensed after this period or drop
out.

We now know DWD is only issuing yearly licenses and some are charging
handling fees so the situation appears far from clear.

Ask IRM/KMI for a 10 year license and see what they say?

Regards,
John Tellick.
RIG.


Re: MSG License: good news from Belgium

Luca Bertagnolio <lucaberta@...>
 

David,

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
In Spain and Germany, there seems be an annual charge, but not in
UK, NL,
I.

Is there a charge in Belguim?
you must have missed my reply in an earlier message (#1720), where I
said that there is no user charge in Belgium.

I sent my signed paperwork to both IRM/KMI and EUMETSAT today! :-)

Bye, Luca


MSG-1 resolution (again)

Lawrence <lawrence@...>
 


I'm jury-rigged for email now! Brilliant blue sky this morning; then a thin
layer of cirrus, I was able to watch the build up of cloud on MSG-1, and in
some cases identify individual clouds/cloud formations - all confirmed by
looking out of the window!
Are others using MSG-1 to follow very short range changes over a short
time-scale? And to think it's going to get even better!

Robert
Yes, I do exactly this for astronomy. You can get an excellent idea of
cloud cover and now-casting for telescope use. I have noticed that some
cloud is almost see-through.

regards

Lawrence Harris


Re: Trouble with tellique

a_van_belle
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Nahum Mendez Chazarra"
<nahum_chazarra@y...> wrote:
....

ERR:2004-02-05 20:42:12.726:Cannot join channel "DWDSAT": Missing
key 61953.
VRB:2004-02-05 20:42:33.676:Channel "TSL Announcement Channel":
Lost message 6846151

I havn't updated the software and I was looking for it, but there
is
in no place, does anybody knows where it is?.

Do I need a new username?

Thanks in advance
Hello Nuham,

"Cannot join channel DWDSAT" looks like you have the wrong PID's
entered. Enter PID 100,300 and 301 in the Technisat SETUP4PC Data
Services screen.
Your trial username should be valid until March 02, you don't need
new software although TQ 2.3.1a is recommended.
TQ software can only be acquired at Eumetsat and is not available for
download.

Greetings,
Arne van Belle


Fire detection using Meteosat-8 and GeoSatSignal

a_van_belle
 

Hello All,

Triggered by an article about agricultural burnings:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/natural_hazards_v2.php3?
img_id=11876
and the full 500 m res. image at:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/Archive/Dec2003/WestAfri
ca.A2003342_lrg.jpg
I tried to match the area and time of acquisition in GeoSatSignal, using my
archived MSG data from 8 December 2003.
This did not only result in a nice image but also gave a stunning 13 hour
high res. animation from dawn to dusk.

Although this uncompressed .AVI is 190 Mb, I did manage to upload a zipped
archive of 44 Mb to David Taylor's FTP site.

Those with fast Internet access should try: (File will be available until
Sunday)
ftp://ftp.blueyonder.co.uk/store1/incoming/20031208-msg-FireDetectionAfr
ica.zip
Tip: After unzipping, open this .AVI in Mediaplayer, set option "repeat
continuos" (translated from Dutch Windows version!) and click "play".
Use Alt-Enter to enjoy a full-screen animation, press Esc to stop.

A single image of 172 Kb, including the used GeoSatSignal Job settings can
be found in the MSG-1 and SatSignal list Files area:
200312081400-msg-FiredetectionAfricaGSS.jpg

Please note all images: "MSG-1 TRIAL DATA, Copyright 2003 Eumetsat"
Thanks to David for using his FTP site.


Greetings,
Arne van Belle>


Trouble with tellique

Nahum Mendez Chazarra <nahum_chazarra@...>
 

Hi to everybody from Spain,

I have not used my receiving station of MSG-1 since August, but i
have made a set up again of antenna and my receiver pc, and tellique
tells me this:

ERR:2004-02-05 20:42:12.726:Cannot join channel "DWDSAT": Missing key
61953.
VRB:2004-02-05 20:42:33.676:Channel "TSL Announcement Channel": Lost
message 6846151

I havn't updated the software and I was looking for it, but there is
in no place, does anybody knows where it is?.

Do I need a new username?

Thanks in advance


Re: MSG License: good news from Belgium

Alan Sewards <alan.sewards@...>
 

It appears for the moment that there is no charge in France - according to
the "Convention" (=licence).

Best regards - Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: "David J Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Re: MSG License: good news from Belgium


Luca,

In Spain and Germany, there seems be an annual charge, but not in UK, NL,
I.

Is there a charge in Belguim?

Ciao,
David





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Re: MSG License: good news from Belgium

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Luca,

In Spain and Germany, there seems be an annual charge, but not in UK, NL,
I.

Is there a charge in Belguim?

Ciao,
David


MSG-1 resolution (again)

Robert Moore
 

I'm jury-rigged for email now! Brilliant blue sky this morning; then a thin
layer of cirrus, I was able to watch the build up of cloud on MSG-1, and in
some cases identify individual clouds/cloud formations - all confirmed by
looking out of the window!
Are others using MSG-1 to follow very short range changes over a short
time-scale? And to think it's going to get even better!

Robert





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Re: MSG License: good news from Belgium

Luca Bertagnolio <lucaberta@...>
 

Gerald, David,

thanks for the reply, I'll use three years too then.

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
Luca, in the UK it is three years, I believe, and I suspect that is
set by Eumetsat rather than the UK.

In Spain and Germany, there seems be an annual charge.

Is there a charge in Belguim?
no, there will be no charge in Belgium for our category. And looks
like Italy will not have any charges too.

I will send the paperwork tomorrow and patiently wait... :-)

Thanks, Luca


Re: MSG License: good news from Belgium

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, John Parkins <john@g...> wrote:
Hello David,

It would seem that Yahoo has something against you David, it sent
through your last message prefixing it with [spam] and telling me
that the attached message was likely to be spam! It would seem like
they have gone a bit mad with their filters as this has happened to
all sorts of mail from them this morning. Might be well worth
everyone checking their own filters to make sure the [spam] prefix
doesn't end up in the bin.

John,

Many thanks for that. I mainly use the Web interface (for my most
popular groups) and this doesn't have the delays and problems of e-
mail. However, this whole spam situation, particularly blacklists,
is now completely out of hand. If someone wants a PC tool, try K9.
It does an excellent job.

A bit ironic that there is an advert at the top of this screen for
Yahoo! Groups Spam Guard. I expect that's triggered another alert
somewhere!

Thanks for the warning John, and you recommendation to check filters.

Cheers,
David


Re: MSG License: good news from Belgium

John Parkins <john@...>
 

Hello David,

It would seem that Yahoo has something against you David, it sent
through your last message prefixing it with [spam] and telling me that
the attached message was likely to be spam! It would seem like they
have gone a bit mad with their filters as this has happened to all
sorts of mail from them this morning. Might be well worth everyone
checking their own filters to make sure the [spam] prefix doesn't end
up in the bin.


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