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R: Re: Tellicast stopped after Update

Vincenzo Mone
 

Yes Arne,
What I've done when I received the exe file.
I ran it into a directory and I found in the directory I created:
Folder called: Licence_cd_v5_0_18-05-2006.
In this folder the three folder as the cd I received from Eumetsat.
I made the update of all the programs contained into the folder
Windows how suggested in the various text files.
The only problem I've noticed and maybe that could be the problem stopping
the Tellicast ( it is red ) is this:
When I run the file called start in the folder
Licence_cd_v5_0_18-05-2006\Windows\Skystar_4_3_0_a.
I get the message that the pc have to be rebooted or to reboot later.
I said to reboot.
After rebooted the installation becomes again but after I get again the
warning which ask to reboot.
So I said to reboot later.
Ran the tellicast the T becomes Yellow and after a while becomes pink but
just after a couple of seconds it becomes red.
Please any help?
Thanks

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-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com] Per conto di
a_van_belle
Inviato: venerdì 19 maggio 2006 9.18
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: [MSG-1] Re: Tellicast stopped after Update

Did you reboot your system after updating ?
Can you open the HTML shell ?(rightclick on the T in the tray)
Check the last log entry in Tellicast (or in file recv.log) for a
possible cause.

The Linux update is a Gunzip compressed TAR archive, this will not
install on Windows Guiseppe, so it is not likely that the wrong update
file was choosen.

Good luck,
Arne van Belle

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Vincenzo Mone" <vimone@...> wrote:

Hi to the list,
I've done the update of the token key and the tellicast
from the zip file received in the received directory
but since I made it, the T in the tray becomes red.
Has anybody have the same problem?
How to solve it?
Should I go back and degrade it again?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Enzo

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Re: I confess... I confess

a_van_belle
 

Hello Lawrence,

The update files breaching the limit of the RAM disk was not foreseen.

You can enlarge the RAM disk to about 60 Mb using the control panel
AND editing the line "File_database_size=59000000"
A reboot is required.

You could also decide not to use the RAMdisk for a while as we don't
know what the optimal size is for allowing the update through yet not
to waste memory.
Edit your recv.ini and place a # at the beginning of the line
"file_database_directory=Z:&#92;receiving" and "file_database_size=...."
In recv.channels.ini add a # at the beginning of the line
"temp_directory=Z:&#92;receiving/tmp"
This makes Tellicast use the default file locations without limiting
sizes.
Stopping and restarting Tellicast is sufficient to activate this change.

Good luck,
Arne van Belle

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, Lawrence <lawrence@...> wrote:

My MSG system has completely stopped, after a few days of problems. I
started checking it out and discovered that the RAM disk is full at
24Mb. I cannot remember what files are used to generate this, let
alone change its value. Can someone remind me please?

Many thanks in advance.

Lawrence


Re: Tellicast Update

Nick Norman <nick@...>
 

Just completed the update here all 100% as far as I can see, signal strength
down but it's blowing a hooley here so I'll be on the roof at the week-end I
think.

Did it in the order, Skystar driver, EKU and then Tellicast

Good luck all

Nick

p.s. if you delete the update files, they get replaced by tellicast.
--
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Re: I confess... I confess

Giuseppe Cico
 

Lawrence,
I'm at work, but if I remember you'd find ramdisk in control panel, then
doubleclick and set new size, then reboot...
Sw package is in the MSG-1 group files area as "AR-Soft-RAMdisk.zip".
Ciao
Giuseppe

My MSG system has completely stopped, after a few days of problems. I
started checking it out and discovered that the RAM disk is full at
24Mb. I cannot remember what files are used to generate this, let
alone change its value. Can someone remind me please?

Many thanks in advance.

Lawrence


I confess... I confess

Lawrence <lawrence@...>
 

My MSG system has completely stopped, after a few days of problems. I started checking it out and discovered that the RAM disk is full at 24Mb. I cannot remember what files are used to generate this, let alone change its value. Can someone remind me please?

Many thanks in advance.

Lawrence


Updates received - Re: Missing Updates (... at the moment...)

Fred <fred@...>
 

To be sure I did a reboot..... and now I'm also waiting with my
fingers and toes crossed.

Fred

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Giuseppe Cico" <giuseppe.cico@...>
wrote:

I miss if ramdisk accepts changes on the fly, without rebooting...
Now I have a mail report from my pc (it's alive...) confirming that
I have
riceived all upd files.


Updates received - Re: Missing Updates (... at the moment...)

Giuseppe Cico
 

I miss if ramdisk accepts changes on the fly, without rebooting...
Now I have a mail report from my pc (it's alive...) confirming that I have
riceived all upd files.
Now fsy file has grown to 31M :

Directory di R:&#92;Eumetsat&#92;received&#92;data&#92;updates

18/05/2006 21.08 <DIR> .
18/05/2006 21.08 <DIR> ..
19/05/2006 06.58 694 Readme_cd_v5.txt
19/05/2006 07.14 25.960.978 Licence_cd_v5.tar.gz
19/05/2006 07.30 26.018.848 Licence_cd_v5.exe
3 File 51.980.520 byte

Directory di R:&#92;Eumetsat&#92;received&#92;temp

18/05/2006 21.00 <DIR> .
18/05/2006 21.00 <DIR> ..
18/05/2006 21.00 31.000.576 0.fsy
1 File 31.000.576 byte

My ramdisk ( R:) is set to 256M and fsy to 64M.
Tonight it's time to install... crossing fingers myself...
Thanks Arne for your reimders...
Ciao
Giuseppe

Yesterday I did the following:
- stopped Tellique
- removed 0.fsy
- changed Ramdisk to 59Mb
- changed recv.ini to 57344000 (should be enough)
- started Tellique.
This morning the ramdisk stopped again at 24 Mb (the old value).
I am sure I forgot something but what? Perhaps start the system again?
I will wait for tonights mail of Arne.

Greetings

Fred


Re: Missing Updates (... at the moment...)

Fred <fred@...>
 

Yesterday I did the following:
- stopped Tellique
- removed 0.fsy
- changed Ramdisk to 59Mb
- changed recv.ini to 57344000 (should be enough)
- started Tellique.
This morning the ramdisk stopped again at 24 Mb (the old value).
I am sure I forgot something but what? Perhaps start the system again?
I will wait for tonights mail of Arne.

Greetings

Fred


Re: Missing Updates (... at the moment...)

a_van_belle
 

Yesterday the update was sent at 16:31 UTC.

Eumetsat will resent the update 2 times every day (one in the morning
and on in the afternoon) up to May 31.
So there will be ample opportunities to receive the update.

With the file_database_size set to 24.5 MB the update failed on both
my PC's. More info on increasing the size will follow this evening.

Greetings,
Arne van Belle


--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Giuseppe Cico" <giuseppe.cico@...> wrote:

Hi folks,
just a curiosity since my PC was a little crazy yesterday...
At what time were update files sent? I've not seen them at the
moment, due
to ramdisk... I suppose it's fault while receiving, but who knows...
Hope to see them today...
Have a good friday, ciao
Giuseppe

Robert thanks for the update.

It's not your eyes but Windows that is confusing you !
The update exists of "Licence_cd_v5.exe&quot; for Windows
and "Licence_cd_v5.tar.gz" a compressed update file for
Linux.
Windows will display this last file as a ZIP file !


Re: Tellicast stopped after Update

a_van_belle
 

Did you reboot your system after updating ?
Can you open the HTML shell ?(rightclick on the T in the tray)
Check the last log entry in Tellicast (or in file recv.log) for a
possible cause.

The Linux update is a Gunzip compressed TAR archive, this will not
install on Windows Guiseppe, so it is not likely that the wrong update
file was choosen.

Good luck,
Arne van Belle

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Vincenzo Mone" <vimone@...> wrote:

Hi to the list,
I've done the update of the token key and the tellicast
from the zip file received in the received directory
but since I made it, the T in the tray becomes red.
Has anybody have the same problem?
How to solve it?
Should I go back and degrade it again?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Enzo

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Re: Tellicast stopped after Update

Giuseppe Cico
 

Vincenzo,
I've not updated because I've not received files at the moment, but as I
know about the problem you should have used "exe" file... "Zip" file is
the one for linux...
I think you have simply to reintall, maybe new "exe" makes update or
intallation... other folks can say...
Ciao
Giuseppe

Hi to the list,
I've done the update of the token key and the tellicast
from the zip file received in the received directory
but since I made it, the T in the tray becomes red.
Has anybody have the same problem?
How to solve it?
Should I go back and degrade it again?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Enzo


Missing Updates (... at the moment...)

Giuseppe Cico
 

Hi folks,
just a curiosity since my PC was a little crazy yesterday...
At what time were update files sent? I've not seen them at the moment, due
to ramdisk... I suppose it's fault while receiving, but who knows...
Hope to see them today...
Have a good friday, ciao
Giuseppe

Robert thanks for the update.

It's not your eyes but Windows that is confusing you !
The update exists of "Licence_cd_v5.exe" for Windows
and "Licence_cd_v5.tar.gz" a compressed update file for Linux.
Windows will display this last file as a ZIP file !


Tellicast stopped after Update

Vincenzo Mone
 

Hi to the list,
I've done the update of the token key and the tellicast
from the zip file received in the received directory
but since I made it, the T in the tray becomes red.
Has anybody have the same problem?
How to solve it?
Should I go back and degrade it again?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Enzo





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Re: Updates

a_van_belle
 

Robert thanks for the update.

It's not your eyes but Windows that is confusing you !
The update exists of "Licence_cd_v5.exe" for Windows
and "Licence_cd_v5.tar.gz" a compressed update file for Linux.
Windows will display this last file as a ZIP file !

Windows users should only use the .exe file to update the Tellicast
client.
By the way, this windows update does also update your eToken software.

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, Robert Moore <rsmoore@...> wrote:

Mystery solved. I had two versions of the 'licence_cd_v5 file': the exe
file was 25,410KB and the winzip file 25,353KB. Plus the 1KB readme
file.
I'm not joking when I say I must get my eyes tested again - I really am
having problems - can't even do soldering jobs for myself now.
Hope I didn't confuse everyone.
Robert


Re: Updates

Robert Moore
 

Mystery solved. I had two versions of the 'licence_cd_v5 file': the exe file was 25,410KB and the winzip file 25,353KB. Plus the 1KB readme file.
I'm not joking when I say I must get my eyes tested again - I really am having problems - can't even do soldering jobs for myself now.
Hope I didn't confuse everyone.
Robert

--On 18 May 2006 19:45 +0000 a_van_belle <a.van.belle@hccnet.nl> wrote:

Thanks Robert for confirmation,

My first guess is that the apparently huge file size of the TC update
did breach my 0.fsy and Ramdisk limit. I do see some missing segments
on both receive PC's in cycle 17:00 that could be connected to this.

With the pre-released Tellicast client at only 6.6 Mb this does
surprise me.

Robert can you tell us the size of the largest file in the update folder ?

This might imply that my recommendations on using a Ramdisk will have
to revised even though I had this setup running with MSG1 and MSG2
data without any hiccup until now!

Greetings,
Arne van Belle

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, Robert Moore <rsmoore@...> wrote:

Confirmed.
The folder contains two files about 50.8 MB together and a 1KB
Readme file.

Robert






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Tip on updating Tellicast Client

a_van_belle
 

Based on the tests David and I have done with a pre released version
of the Tellicast clinet v2.44 it is advisable to make a backup of your
old recv.ini and recv-channels.ini before applying this update.

If there is an option (cannot test this with the final release as I
did miss the update due to a too small ramdisk) on choosing a complete
install or an update, go for the update as a complete install might
overwrite your ini files and ask your Eumetcast username and password
to be entered again.

Good luck,
Arne van Belle


Re: Updates

James Brown
 

In message <e4ikcs+ujn9@eGroups.com>, a_van_belle <a.van.belle@hccnet.nl> writes
OK James, we are just guessing right now.

On my test PC I have ramdisk setup to 200 Mb but did forget to enlarge
the file_database_size in the recv.ini !
Both PC's (with or without MSG-2, with TC 240 and pre-release TC244)
handled the same.
I have removed the updates folder and deleted the fsy file and re-started the progs so we will see what comes.

The file_database_size was set to 24576000 which should have been fine I would have thought - I have increased to 48576000 just in case that makes a difference.

Incidentally I hope folk are remembering to archive the updated files!

Cheers
James
--
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R: Re: Updates

Giuseppe Cico
 

Thanks Arne,
Tellicast stopped itself, and I cannot restart, and don't mind to kill fsy
file... so I rebooted pc... just a few panic seconds...
It's a hard duty, but someone has to do... trial period...
Thanks again... ciao
Giuseppe
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MSG-1@yahoogroups.com]Per conto di
a_van_belle
Inviato: giovedì 18 maggio 2006 22.11
A: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: [MSG-1] Re: Updates


OK James, we are just guessing right now.

On my test PC I have ramdisk setup to 200 Mb but did forget to enlarge
the file_database_size in the recv.ini !
Both PC's (with or without MSG-2, with TC 240 and pre-release TC244)
handled the same.

The 0.fsy file must be able to hold the captured stream until a file
header and matching end of file is detected. Only then the file is
"extracted" and this data is then removed from 0.fsy.

With the update on one PID I guess the update files were sent
sequentially, but there must be room left for buffering the other PID's.

Guiseppe, 62 Mb file_database_size should be large enough to run
without problems at this moment unless you have very bad reception
conditions. If you have stopped Tellicast make sure to delete 0.fsy to
get a clean start !

Greetings,
Arne van Belle


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Re: Updates

a_van_belle
 

OK James, we are just guessing right now.

On my test PC I have ramdisk setup to 200 Mb but did forget to enlarge
the file_database_size in the recv.ini !
Both PC's (with or without MSG-2, with TC 240 and pre-release TC244)
handled the same.

The 0.fsy file must be able to hold the captured stream until a file
header and matching end of file is detected. Only then the file is
"extracted" and this data is then removed from 0.fsy.

With the update on one PID I guess the update files were sent
sequentially, but there must be room left for buffering the other PID's.

Guiseppe, 62 Mb file_database_size should be large enough to run
without problems at this moment unless you have very bad reception
conditions. If you have stopped Tellicast make sure to delete 0.fsy to
get a clean start !

Greetings,
Arne van Belle

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, James Brown <satellite@...> wrote:

I don't think it was this Arne. My ramdisk is 100Mb so is well able to
cope, but I am still in the same position as you. I'm not sure whether
the file came through in one segment, or whether it is being built
up in
the fsy file before being passed on.

I wonder if Robert is getting MSG-2 as well?

Cheers
James
--
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Re: Updates

Ap van Weeren
 

Here the same, everything installed properly,
3 files- 624kb(gen Documentation, Linux 6.52mB and windows 20.4 mB)
gr Ap

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "John Thexton" <john@...> wrote:

Hi
Yes i have a folder called updates which came at 16:30 there are 3
files in
it Read me ,and update for widows and update for Linux. I double
clicked
widows and it all installed automaticaly and updated my EKU also.


Regards

John
----- Original Message -----
From: "a_van_belle" <a.van.belle@...>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: Updates


Can anyone confirm that they do have files named Licence_cd..... in
the received&#92;updates directory ?

I see the folder was created automatically at 16:31 UTC but I only
received a Readme file from 964 bytes !

But I do notice that between 16:50 and 16:55 my 0.fsy file grew
alarmingly from 14 to 22 Mb.

This is close to the 24 Mb limit I setup.

This is a bit unexpected as the additional MSG2 stream had very little
impact on my test system.

Greetings,
Arne van Belle

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, James Brown <satellite@> wrote:

In message <e4i7na+rpud@>, seggins2000
<seggins@> writes
Updates have begun to arrive with a readme filein a new folder.

John Say
Confirmed here - I created the updates folder manually just in case so
it looks like it checks to see if it exists and then acts accordingly.

Thanks John,

James
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