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Re: Test message....

Gerald Cahill <jock.cahill@...>
 

Using REPLY function


David J Taylor wrote:

... following failure to Reply to James' question.

David
Folks, it seems that (possibly following a security update this morning) I
can no longer use the Reply function in the Web interface to the Yahoo
groups. If anyone else has the same problem - e-mail me off list!

I'll delete the spurious messages now.....

David


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Re: Test message....

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

... following failure to Reply to James' question.

David
Folks, it seems that (possibly following a security update this morning) I
can no longer use the Reply function in the Web interface to the Yahoo
groups. If anyone else has the same problem - e-mail me off list!

I'll delete the spurious messages now.....

David


Re: HRV

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Brown" <james@meteosat.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] HRV


I wonder what your thoughts are on this announcement David?

Advanced Warning - Week 44
Well, twice now I have tried to reply to your message using the Web
interface, and I've now lost so much typing that I'm not repeating my
considered and wordy reply.

Let's hope that not much will happen, and that the existing software will
continue to work....

Cheers,
David


Re: HRV

Alan Sewards <alan.sewards@...>
 

Ian,
At least you had a bit of the country to see. I have moved from the Alps
to the middle of the North Atlantic! Curse this messing around with the HRV.

Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian S Deans" <ian@isdeans.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] HRV


James,

Wales missing I can deal with -- but certainly not Scotland !! Certainly
made a mess of the UK animation.

Ian




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Re: HRV

James Brown <james@...>
 

I wonder what your thoughts are on this announcement David?

Advanced Warning - Week 44

On 28 or 29 October 2003 (day 03.301 or 03.302) it is planned to start the dissemination of the IMPF level 1.5 images instead of the IQGSE level 1.5 ones. A short interruption during working hours is to be expected. Some differences must be expected in the headers, image quality and compression efficiency. More details about the differences in the headers can be found in the following document (pdf format):

http://www.eumetsat.de/en/dps/news/pdf/delta_IQGSE-IMPF_images.pdf

Cheers,

James
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Re: HRV

Ian S Deans <ian@...>
 

James,

Wales missing I can deal with -- but certainly not Scotland !! Certainly
made a mess of the UK animation.

Ian


Re: HRV

James Brown <james@...>
 

In message <000801c393c0$3c909ca0$0100a8c0@douglas>, Douglas Deans <douglas@dsdeans.freeserve.co.uk> writes
For those new to MSG the out of position 24th segment on the 08.00 UTC scan
is probably a prelude to a northern section scan change on the HRV channel.
The 08.30 may be changed.

Douglas.
Yes indeed Douglas, bye-bye Wales!

James
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HRV

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

For those new to MSG the out of position 24th segment on the 08.00 UTC scan
is probably a prelude to a northern section scan change on the HRV channel.
The 08.30 may be changed.

Douglas.


Transponder problem.

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

Just to clear up any misunderstanding the missing segments in the 17.00 and
17.15 UTC scan were due to a Hotbird transponder failure not Eumetsat. The
problem lasted about 10/15 mins as I previously reported and affected all
data/programs on 11096.

Regards
Douglas.


R: Transponder Loss

sergio mastripieri
 

I just checked signal level of my DVB and it 60%, as usual. I live near
Milan and my dish diameter is 60cm, transparent plastic esternally. I can
not say anything else, since I just sent my request for Tellique sw to
Eumetsat and I am still waiting (anxiously :-) ) for it.



Cheers.



sergio



-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Douglas Deans [mailto:douglas@dsdeans.freeserve.co.uk]
Inviato: 15 October 2003 19:26
A: MSG-1
Oggetto: [MSG-1] Transponder Loss



Unless some unexpected has happened at this end it looks as if the 11096
transponder is down.
Red icon on the taskbar for the DVB but only on that frequency and TV
channels on that transponder also down (Sailing channel etc.)
All other channels seem ok.
Hopefully short lived.
Hope others are seeing this.

Douglas.







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Re: Transponder Loss

Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@...>
 

Douglas,
I've just switched on my rx PC and data seems to be flowing OK here
Dave (Isle of Man)

----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Deans
To: MSG-1
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:25 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] Transponder Loss


Unless some unexpected has happened at this end it looks as if the 11096
transponder is down.
Red icon on the taskbar for the DVB but only on that frequency and TV
channels on that transponder also down (Sailing channel etc.)
All other channels seem ok.
Hopefully short lived.
Hope others are seeing this.

Douglas.

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Transponder

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

Back on but from experience you may need to re-boot in the correct sequence
if segment loss is to be avoided.
The outage was about 10 mins with some questionable in/outs just prior to
that.

Douglas.


Transponder Loss

Douglas Deans <douglas@...>
 

Unless some unexpected has happened at this end it looks as if the 11096
transponder is down.
Red icon on the taskbar for the DVB but only on that frequency and TV
channels on that transponder also down (Sailing channel etc.)
All other channels seem ok.
Hopefully short lived.
Hope others are seeing this.

Douglas.


Re: [SatSignal] missing segments - program stop

Trevor Davies <g0jix@...>
 

Hi MSG'rs
> David,
>
> I have this but on the 0815 cycle where all HRIT/LRIT channels
have segments 2 4 5 6 7 8 are missing, segment 3 has the first few
lines missing and the 0830 cycle is missing . HRV all except 1 and 2
missing.
>

Looks very similar here.....

Exactly the same here.

> Looking at the process log this seems to be a reception problem.
The Tellique log shows that between 08:21:48 and 08:47:19 the only
Channel 2 files received were Admin and many expired keys are
present.
>
> I wonder if this problem could be related to specific users, maybe
a problem with the dissemination and user keys etc.
>
> Peter

I doubt it - looks like there was a break in the feed around that
time. The access control tests aren't due until December 02 as I
recall.

I agree with David

73 de Trevor G0JIX
All mail scanned with Norton.


Re: Any Users Receiving Atlantic Bird 3?

johnrigsec@...
 

In a message dated 15-10-03 00:39:41 GMT Daylight Time,
jkelly@bellatlantic.net writes:

After reading the RIG article and living on the US east coast, I am
interested in setting up a MSG system. Is anyone receiving this way
yet? I could use a little help on this type of receiver and card.

thanks,

Jeff Kelly
KT2K
08750
Jeff,

Someone in EUMETSAT has successfully used the TechniSat SkyStar 2 PCI
(see Timestep advertisement in the September RIG Journal) to receive the
C-Band
EUMETCast service from Atlantic Bird-3.

As David said earlier, you will need to register with EUMETSAT to receive
this
service and to be able to obtain the tq(R)-TELLICAST software - from
EUMETSAT.
You will also need David Taylor's MSG Manager software.

You will need a large dish - 2.4 to 3.7m.
Also, of course, a C-Band feedhorn with a slab in its throat for LHC
polarisation.
A C-band LNB that will output between 950 and 2150 MHz to feed into the
SkyStar
card.

EUMETCast C-Band service parameters:

Atlantic Bird-3.
Transponder C02.
Frequency 3726.7535 MHz.
Symbol Rate 5.964 Msymbol/s.
FEC Auto.

More information in EUMETSAT Technical document EUM TD 15 issue 2. available
on the EUMETSAT website - <A HREF="www.eumetsat.de">www.eumetsat.de</A>

I'm sure you will find C-Band equipment more easily available on your side of
the pond.
C-Band never really happened on this side of the Atlantic as far as DTH
satellite TV is concerned.

You might try Chaparral for feedhorns and Dexcel Inc. for LNB's.
Both I think are in Santa Clara CA.

I hope this has been of some use.

John Tellick.
Remote Imaging Group.


Re: [SatSignal] missing segments - program stop

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

David,

I have this but on the 0815 cycle where all HRIT/LRIT channels
have segments 2 4 5 6 7 8 are missing, segment 3 has the first few
lines missing and the 0830 cycle is missing . HRV all except 1 and 2
missing.
Looks very similar here.....

Looking at the process log this seems to be a reception problem.
The Tellique log shows that between 08:21:48 and 08:47:19 the only
Channel 2 files received were Admin and many expired keys are
present.

I wonder if this problem could be related to specific users, maybe
a problem with the dissemination and user keys etc.

Peter
I doubt it - looks like there was a break in the feed around that
time. The access control tests aren't due until December 02 as I
recall.

In some respects, it might be nice to see a dark grey level
transmitted instead of missing data. Woudl that be a good idea, or
not?

Cheers,
David


Re: [SatSignal] missing segments - program stop

Peter Benney <tugboat@...>
 

this morning on the 0830 scan, seg 2 was missing from all images, and seg 3
was interrupted about 10 lines from the start.
David,

I have this but on the 0815 cycle where all HRIT/LRIT channels have segments 2 4 5 6 7 8 are missing, segment 3 has the first few lines missing and the 0830 cycle is missing . HRV all except 1 and 2 missing.

Looking at the process log this seems to be a reception problem. The Tellique log shows that between 08:21:48 and 08:47:19 the only Channel 2 files received were Admin and many expired keys are present.

I wonder if this problem could be related to specific users, maybe a problem with the dissemination and user keys etc.

Peter


Re: MSG Data Manager Stopped processing

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "davidstrickland2003" <David@s...>
wrote:
David,
My collection computer has been running since late Friday 10
October. The computer that runs MSG Data Manager was turned on
yesterday ( It is used for other jobs with occassional bursts of
MSG
processing. It was left on overnight to catch up on the MSG
processing. I noticed this morning that it had stopped processing
the stored files at 13 October 1800. Sometime between 0800 this
morning and 0900 it continued to process with as far as I know no
actions that could have triggered the processing restart other
than
possibly starting up a different machine on the same network.
David, this is the expected behaviour from the current version. It
was processing the 0815 cycle, data for which stopped in the middle
of the scan. When data for the 0830 cycle started to come in, the
program waited around for while just in case more data for the 0815
cycle was going to come in. When it did not, the program shrugged
it's shoulders (you _did see the animation?), and started processing
the 0830 data.

I
notice that it has now caught up with all the stored data and is
running fine. I have also noticed that MSG animator does nothing
until the catch up has occurred. I have the missing segemnts
reports
for this location if you want them. The two computers are coupled
by
wireless 54g.
The animator won't update the animation until new data is available.

Cheers,
David


MSG Data Manager Stopped processing

davidstrickland2003 <David@...>
 

David,
My collection computer has been running since late Friday 10
October. The computer that runs MSG Data Manager was turned on
yesterday ( It is used for other jobs with occassional bursts of MSG
processing. It was left on overnight to catch up on the MSG
processing. I noticed this morning that it had stopped processing
the stored files at 13 October 1800. Sometime between 0800 this
morning and 0900 it continued to process with as far as I know no
actions that could have triggered the processing restart other than
possibly starting up a different machine on the same network. I
notice that it has now caught up with all the stored data and is
running fine. I have also noticed that MSG animator does nothing
until the catch up has occurred. I have the missing segemnts reports
for this location if you want them. The two computers are coupled by
wireless 54g.

Regards David S.


Re: MSG-1 data flow...

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
 

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "John Willis" <john@l...> wrote:
v.1.2.4.236

Signals restarted 20:00 last night here.

John
Oh, well, that's right up-to-date! I'm adding more protection to
the program against bad segment data which the Tellique software
sometimes seems to emit, so perhaps it may not happen in a future
version. You seem to have been the only person to reports this,
which is not bad considering all the TeraBytes and more of data that
has been processed with the software!

Cheers,
David