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[rig-l] Re: [rig-l] Oddities with MSG-1

David J Taylor
 

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ID.

David

Re: [rig-l] Oddities with MSG-1

a_van_belle
 

Today Sept. 02, from slot 0800 onwards we have Eastern Europe back on
HRV !

Unfortunaley we had to trade in the western part of Africa now.

Makes one think Eumetsat has subscribed to a "Lite" ADSL line to T-
systems and have to watch their upload quota !

Image 0030 (ch01 to 03 and HRV) showed a severe sun glimpse again.
Interesting to see how a solair eqlips is seen by MSG-1, hope that it
won't damage the delicate SEVERI instrument !


Greetings,
Arne van Belle
Co-ordinator Radio Observers
Werkgroep Kunstmanen

Re: [rig-l] Oddities with MSG-1

David J Taylor
 

Image 0030 (ch01 to 03 and HRV) showed a severe sun glimpse again.
Interesting to see how a solair eqlips is seen by MSG-1, hope that
it
won't damage the delicate SEVERI instrument !
Same here, Arne. I can't believe they would risk damage.

Did you notice the strange effects on the midnight images, where the
top 200 lines or so were misplaced, as if the scan position sensor
was being misled by solar radiation? They didn't show on the 0015
images, so weren't on the LRIT data. Quite noticeable effects on
the 0045 images, though, both visible and thermal channels, and both
HRIT and LRIT data.

Cheers,
David

TechniSat SkyStar 2 PCI card and USB box software upgrade.

johnrigsec@...
 

All,

The software for the TechniSat SkyStar 2 PCI card and USB Box has been
updated
to V. 4.2.8.
There appears (to my eyes) to be several improvements and added facilities.

You can obtain more information from <A HREF="http://www.t-data.lu/">www.t-data.lu</A> where I believe the update
is
available.

Regards,
John Tellick.
RIG.

TechniSat SkyStar 2 PCI card and USB box software upgrade.

Timestep <Information@...>
 

From: Dave Cawley
Timestep Dartmouth England
e-mail Information@...
Web site http://www.Time-step.com
Tel. +44 (0)1803 833366
Fax. +44 (0)1803 839498

http://www.technisat.com/en/service/download.php

and http://www.t-data.lu/ are more accurate links. The USB version is
particularly worthwhile.

Dave

Re: Oddities with MSG-1

Luca Bertagnolio <lucaberta@...>
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "David Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
Did you notice the strange effects on the midnight images, where
the
top 200 lines or so were misplaced, as if the scan position sensor
was being misled by solar radiation? They didn't show on the 0015
images, so weren't on the LRIT data. Quite noticeable effects on
the 0045 images, though, both visible and thermal channels, and
both
HRIT and LRIT data.
same happened last night, with errors in the 0000, 0030 (bottom),
0045 (middle), 0100 (top). I had a quick look to following slots but
they seemed OK.

Not sure what this could be, but the 0000 and 0100 image have the top
lines wiggling into opposite directions, could this really be related
to solar radiation? Why the opposite directions?

Bye, Luca

Small problem

John Parkins <john@...>
 

Hello Group,

Got around to finally sorting out my computer yesterday, after a while
it gets so full of 'stuff' it needs a spring clean. So I now have a
brand new installation of Windows XP, but...... Having got the SkyStar
card in and working I installed the Tellique software which also runs.
The problem is that as files are being received I get VERY short
hesitations, as though the computer has come to a halt. Now the
hardware is exactly the same as before, apart from the addition of
more memory, but I have used the updated drivers 4.2.8 for the SkyStar
card, the Tellique software is as before. I have to make clear that it
is only while the Tellique software is running that I get these
hesitations. Anyone having the same problem?



--
Best regards,
John mailto:kvp@...

Re: Small problem

fvalk <fvalk@...>
 

John,

I decided to install the new SkyStar 4.2.8 this morning as well and besides of
requiring the repair file, my XP-pro machine shows the same behaviour as you
mention. I personally find it so disturbing that I have decided to roll back to
the 'old' version. That one runs smooth in combination with the Data Manager.

Ferdinand

---------- Original Message -----------
From: John Parkins <john@...>
To: MSG-1 Mailing List <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 10:01:59 +0100
Subject: [MSG-1] Small problem

Hello Group,

Got around to finally sorting out my computer yesterday, after a while
it gets so full of 'stuff' it needs a spring clean. So I now have a
brand new installation of Windows XP, but...... Having got the SkyStar
card in and working I installed the Tellique software which also runs.
The problem is that as files are being received I get VERY short
hesitations, as though the computer has come to a halt. Now the
hardware is exactly the same as before, apart from the addition of
more memory, but I have used the updated drivers 4.2.8 for the SkyStar
card, the Tellique software is as before. I have to make clear that it
is only while the Tellique software is running that I get these
hesitations. Anyone having the same problem?



--
Best regards,
John mailto:kvp@...



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Re: Small problem

fvalk <fvalk@...>
 

John,

I decided to install the new SkyStar 4.2.8 this morning as well and besides of
requiring the repair file, my XP-pro machine shows the same behaviour as you
mention. I personally find it so disturbing that I have decided to roll back to
the 'old' version. That one runs smooth in combination with the Data Manager.

Ferdinand

---------- Original Message -----------
From: John Parkins <john@...>
To: MSG-1 Mailing List <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 10:01:59 +0100
Subject: [MSG-1] Small problem

Hello Group,

Got around to finally sorting out my computer yesterday, after a while
it gets so full of 'stuff' it needs a spring clean. So I now have a
brand new installation of Windows XP, but...... Having got the SkyStar
card in and working I installed the Tellique software which also runs.
The problem is that as files are being received I get VERY short
hesitations, as though the computer has come to a halt. Now the
hardware is exactly the same as before, apart from the addition of
more memory, but I have used the updated drivers 4.2.8 for the SkyStar
card, the Tellique software is as before. I have to make clear that it
is only while the Tellique software is running that I get these
hesitations. Anyone having the same problem?



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John mailto:kvp@...



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Re: Small problem

David J Taylor
 

I personally find it so disturbing that I have decided to roll
back to
the 'old' version. That one runs smooth in combination with the
Data Manager.

Ferdinand
In view of this, I would suggest not upgrading a system that works,
and waiting until Eumetsat release their new version (if and when)
which has been properly tested.....

Cheers,
David

Special MSG meeting September 13 Utrecht

a_van_belle
 

Announcement:

Saturday September 13th: the Werkgroep Kunstmanen organises a special meeting on MSG, which takes place in Utrecht, The Netherlands.
The focus will be on MSG-1 / Eumetsat 8 reception, decoding and image processing. David Taylorís lecture on MSG-1 will be central;
Live MSG-1 reception will be set up and imaging and animation will be demonstrated to enhance Davidís speech.

HRPT and APT systems will be on display together with examples of home-built antennae and rotators.

Visitors are welcome, please e-mail me off-list me if you wish to attend.

Time: 10:00 to around 15:00 Dutch time
Location: NIMETO college
Smijerslaan 2 , Tuindorp-oost
Utrecht (40 min. by car from Schiphol)
The Netherlands

Arne van Belle
Co-ordinator Radio Observers Werkgroep Kunstmanen
a.van.belle@...

Ruud Jansen
Chairman Werkgroep Kunstmanen

www.kunstmanen.nl

Re: Small problem

Guy Martin <agm@...>
 

A case of 'If it ain't broke don't fix it'.

Guy

----- Original Message -----
From: fvalk
To: MSG-1@...
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Small problem


John,

I decided to install the new SkyStar 4.2.8 this morning as well and besides of
requiring the repair file, my XP-pro machine shows the same behaviour as you
mention. I personally find it so disturbing that I have decided to roll back to
the 'old' version. That one runs smooth in combination with the Data Manager.

Ferdinand



---------- Original Message -----------
From: John Parkins <john@...>
To: MSG-1 Mailing List <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 10:01:59 +0100
Subject: [MSG-1] Small problem

> Hello Group,
>
> Got around to finally sorting out my computer yesterday, after a while
> it gets so full of 'stuff' it needs a spring clean. So I now have a
> brand new installation of Windows XP, but...... Having got the SkyStar
> card in and working I installed the Tellique software which also runs.
> The problem is that as files are being received I get VERY short
> hesitations, as though the computer has come to a halt. Now the
> hardware is exactly the same as before, apart from the addition of
> more memory, but I have used the updated drivers 4.2.8 for the SkyStar
> card, the Tellique software is as before. I have to make clear that it
> is only while the Tellique software is running that I get these
> hesitations. Anyone having the same problem?
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> John mailto:kvp@...
>
>
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Re: Small problem

Luca Bertagnolio <lucaberta@...>
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "David Taylor" <david-taylor@b...> wrote:
In view of this, I would suggest not upgrading a system that works,
and waiting until Eumetsat release their new version (if and when)
which has been properly tested.....
I am definitely *not* going to update my drivers!

I have also switched back to the Tellique software I had found on the net before I received the CD from EUMETSAT, as I found that the AstraNet/T-DSL version is much more stable (never had any false start, any double icons in the taskbar and other nasty things).

I found the software here:

http://www.ipviasky.de/tsky/down/downtswin.html

Beware, as you might need some fiddling to extract and configure the Tellique software... but I did it, and worked fine even under Linux.

Bye, Luca

Re: Small problem

John Parkins <john@...>
 

Hello all,

Just an update to this, confusing as usual with anything connected
to the SkyStar card. I un-installed the drivers and the card and
then went with the old drivers 4.2.2. This seems to have cured the
problem, but on checking I'm still told I'm using the new 4.2.8
drivers...... I'll just walk away from it slowly and hope it all
carries on working. And just to make this week perfect the other
computer has just made a noise like a cat with it tail on fire, so I
would assume that's a hard disk bearing about to go!

Thursday, September 4, 2003, 10:01:59 AM, you wrote:

JP> Hello Group,

JP> Got around to finally sorting out my computer yesterday, after a while
JP> it gets so full of 'stuff' it needs a spring clean. So I now have a
JP> brand new installation of Windows XP, but...... Having got the SkyStar
JP> card in and working I installed the Tellique software which also runs.
JP> The problem is that as files are being received I get VERY short
JP> hesitations, as though the computer has come to a halt. Now the
JP> hardware is exactly the same as before, apart from the addition of
JP> more memory, but I have used the updated drivers 4.2.8 for the SkyStar
JP> card, the Tellique software is as before. I have to make clear that it
JP> is only while the Tellique software is running that I get these
JP> hesitations. Anyone having the same problem?






--
Best regards,
John mailto:kvp@...

Re: Small problem

fvalk <fvalk@...>
 

As you are using XP a surer option might be to simply go back to a previous
restore point. It takes a couple of minutes and all harm and driver issues are
gone as if they never were there in the first place.

Fheers,

Ferdimamd

---------- Original Message -----------
From: John Parkins <john@...>
To: John Parkins <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:41:27 +0100
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Small problem

Hello all,

Just an update to this, confusing as usual with anything connected
to the SkyStar card. I un-installed the drivers and the card and
then went with the old drivers 4.2.2. This seems to have cured the
problem, but on checking I'm still told I'm using the new 4.2.8
drivers...... I'll just walk away from it slowly and hope it all
carries on working. And just to make this week perfect the other
computer has just made a noise like a cat with it tail on fire, so I
would assume that's a hard disk bearing about to go!

Re: Oddities with MSG-1

Alan Sewards <alan.sewards@...>
 

Hi all,
I too am puzzled with the discontinuities which seem to happen more or
less regularly around midnight UTC. This morning, the 04/2345 image was OK,
but the 05/0000 and 0015 were affected, as were the 0045 and 0100, with the
0030 appearing to be OK. To complicate things, the 0015 LRIT image was
distorted in a similar manner to the HRIT, but the 0045 LRIT seemed to be
OK.
It seems very odd that spacecraft imager problems could
be clock-linked, much more likely that there is a software glitch in the
Eumetsat data ingestion systems.The indication that HRIT and LRIT images
differ supports this.It sure messes up the animations! Has anyone
heard anything from Eumetsat on
this effect? Do Eumetsat staff monitor this group?

Best regards - Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Luca Bertagnolio" <lucaberta@...>
To: <MSG-1@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: [MSG-1] Re: Oddities with MSG-1


--- In MSG-1@..., "David Taylor" <david-taylor@b...>
wrote:
Did you notice the strange effects on the midnight images, where
the
top 200 lines or so were misplaced, as if the scan position sensor
was being misled by solar radiation? They didn't show on the 0015
images, so weren't on the LRIT data. Quite noticeable effects on
the 0045 images, though, both visible and thermal channels, and
both
HRIT and LRIT data.
same happened last night, with errors in the 0000, 0030 (bottom),
0045 (middle), 0100 (top). I had a quick look to following slots but
they seemed OK.

Not sure what this could be, but the 0000 and 0100 image have the top
lines wiggling into opposite directions, could this really be related
to solar radiation? Why the opposite directions?

Bye, Luca




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Re: Oddities with MSG-1

David J Taylor
 

It seems very odd that spacecraft imager problems could be clock-
linked, much more likely that there is a software glitch in the
Eumetsat data ingestion systems.The indication that HRIT and LRIT
images differ supports this.

Alan,

I saw the same effects on the 200309050045 HRIT and LRIT images
(checking channel 9), so could you check again? I have e-mailed one
of my Eumetsat contacts with a note about these issues, and our
concern about possible imager damage.

Cheers,
David

EUMETSAT Monitoring

Sally Wannop <wannop@...>
 

Dear News Group

Following a recent message regarding EUMETSAT's monitoring of your news group, we are pleased to inform you that several members of the operational team regularly receive the messages. EUMETSAT will not actively participate in each discussion, but where appropriate, we will take part to correct a misconception or offer additional information.

Regards

Sally Wannop
User Service Support Manager
EUMETSAT

Re: EUMETSAT Monitoring

David J Taylor
 

--- In MSG-1@..., "Sally Wannop" <wannop@e...> wrote:
Dear News Group

Following a recent message regarding EUMETSAT's monitoring of your
news group, we are pleased to inform you that several members of the
operational team regularly receive the messages. EUMETSAT will not
actively participate in each discussion, but where appropriate, we
will take part to correct a misconception or offer additional
information.

Regards

Sally Wannop
Thanks, Sally. It's good to know that.
EUMETSAT's input will be most welcome.

Cheers,
David

Re: EUMETSAT Monitoring

Hugh Marnoch <marnoch@...>
 

/reminds myself not to make any more sarky comments about Eumetsat ;-D

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 05/09/2003 at 11:08 David Taylor wrote:

--- In MSG-1@..., "Sally Wannop" <wannop@e...> wrote:
Dear News Group

Following a recent message regarding EUMETSAT's monitoring of your
news group, we are pleased to inform you that several members of the
operational team regularly receive the messages.
snip
Regards

Sally Wannop
Thanks, Sally. It's good to know that.
EUMETSAT's input will be most welcome.