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Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip Robinson
 


David
I hope you can help me on this one.
I am working through Ernst Beginners guide to installing and using PyTROLL/SatPy for Windows10 and i am nearly there for producing the first images in the EMCData

The problem i am having is in the MSG4.py script, and that in the SegDir script  line i have to locate the path to my satellite data files that Tellicast receives. I understand they are in EUMETCast\received\\bas\DATAChannel 2 . I never really took much notice of that folder but i can see those files keep popping in and out continually . I presume these are the important raw files that MSG Data Manager uses ( and SatPy requires too) . I need to keep these files retained in there for a period of time so that they can be used in SatPy. I have ticked Keep raw data and HRIT retention period 2 days in the MSGData Manager Options  but the files still keep popping in and out of that Data Channel 2 folder.
How can I keep these files  retained in that folder for a period of time so that SatPy can make use of them
regards
Philip
PS  I am probably not seeing the option for retaining these raw files. I thought Keep raw data was the option i required to do.

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io" <ernst.lobsiger@...>
Sent: 02/01/2022 09:31:34
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip,

first of all I assume you copied the MSG4.py into the USRscripts directory and work with this copy as I proposed!

Then you must have a minimal idea on how your EUMETCast reception system works. In the header of MSG4.py you read:

# EUMETSAT is EUMETCast disseminating MSG4 data in EUMETSAT_Data_Channel_2

As you are on Windows chances are that you have spaces " " (a very bad habit) instead of underlines "_".

Where these data go (the directory in your file system) you define in your "cast-client-channels_bas.ini" file.

Most probably this is "D:\received\bas\EUMETSAT Data Channel 2" . In this case you tell the MSG4.py

segdir = 'D:/received/bas/EUMETSAT Data Channel 2' 

 Python like GNU/Linux EXPECTS  FORWARD SLASHES "/" !!

The problem might be that, as a Windows user, you also use David's software with whatever data manager
I have no idea of. This may or may not interfere with what my scripts expect. If e.g. such a manager reads
data from "D:\received\bas\EUMETSAT Data Channel 2" processes these files making images and then deletes
the original files you are in a bad situation. But you can certainly tell this "manager" to retain the original files
at least for a while "somewhere". Then "somewhere" is the place you must tell MSG4.py to check. And I guess
that "somewhere" can even include a YYYY/MM/DD directory structure ...

Regards,
Ernst


BTW this is a Metop file:
AVHR_xxx_1B_MO1_2021124185203Z_20211224185503Z_N_O_20211224194312Z.bz2


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Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Philip,

first of all I assume you copied the MSG4.py into the USRscripts directory and work with this copy as I proposed!

Then you must have a minimal idea on how your EUMETCast reception system works. In the header of MSG4.py you read:

# EUMETSAT is EUMETCast disseminating MSG4 data in EUMETSAT_Data_Channel_2

As you are on Windows chances are that you have spaces " " (a very bad habit) instead of underlines "_".

Where these data go (the directory in your file system) you define in your "cast-client-channels_bas.ini" file.

Most probably this is "D:\received\bas\EUMETSAT Data Channel 2" . In this case you tell the MSG4.py

segdir = 'D:/received/bas/EUMETSAT Data Channel 2' 

 Python like GNU/Linux EXPECTS  FORWARD SLASHES "/" !!

The problem might be that, as a Windows user, you also use David's software with whatever data manager
I have no idea of. This may or may not interfere with what my scripts expect. If e.g. such a manager reads
data from "D:\received\bas\EUMETSAT Data Channel 2" processes these files making images and then deletes
the original files you are in a bad situation. But you can certainly tell this "manager" to retain the original files
at least for a while "somewhere". Then "somewhere" is the place you must tell MSG4.py to check. And I guess
that "somewhere" can even include a YYYY/MM/DD directory structure ...

Regards,
Ernst


BTW this is a Metop file:
AVHR_xxx_1B_MO1_2021124185203Z_20211224185503Z_N_O_20211224194312Z.bz2


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip Robinson
 

Hi
Just to add i have incoming files in my EUMETCast received folder eg AVHR_xxx_1B_MO1_2021124185203Z_20211224185503Z_N_O_20211224194312Z.bz2

I feel i am so close to producing my first image.
regards
Philip

------ Original Message ------
From: "Philip Robinson" <philip57@...>
Sent: 01/01/2022 23:20:16
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Ernst   and Christian
Last problem today
I have now arrived in the instructions for editing the segdir line  in the MSG4.py file 
I cant get my head around the  segdir script line path  and what to enter.
I have opened up MSG4.py for editing and can see the example line thats there 'Z"/rec_0................... I do not know what to change this path to and also the date format.

I have lots of incoming data in several different directories of EUMETCAST/received 
three examples of these directories are below. I am using Windows10.
D:\EUMETCast\received\bas\Data Channel4
D:\EUMETCASTreceived\hvs-1\E1H-TPG-1
D:\EUMETCAST/received\hvs-2\default

and all the individual files contained in the received folder have date modified  eg 24/12/2021 20:42

Do I just change the path in  segdir to 'D:\EUMETCAST\received'    This is where my incoming data is received.
I am also not sure about what to enter  for the YEAR/MONTH/DAY structure

I could be barking up the wrong tree, and the segdir path is nothing like the above.

regards
Philip


------ Original Message ------
From: "Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io" <ernst.lobsiger@...>
Sent: 01/01/2022 19:30:26
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip,

my instructions say:

<CITE>

Go to

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/wessel/gshhg/

gshhs and wdb files are part of GSHHG. Current version is GSHHG-2.3.7.
We need the native shape files that come in different resolutions and
can all be downloaded on the bottom of the page above. Look for the link:

CAUTION: Do not take the binary files as used by Hugo in EUMETCastView!


"
For ESRI shapefiles of shoreline polygons, rivers, and borders you can choose to get via ftp or http:

    FTP: GSHHG coastlines, political borders and rivers in shapefile format (zip archive)
    HTTP: GSHHG coastlines, political borders and rivers in shapefile format (zip archive)
"

You should get a file named gshhg-shp-2.3.7.zip

</CITE>

The soest page has not changed. The "bottom" does not mean the very last link. Please read my text carefully.
Sigh, I know that reading in the Internet age is a dying art. It's at the same stage as playing the Hammond B3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEST4CJlJkg

Cheers,
Ernst

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip Robinson
 

Ernst   and Christian
Last problem today
I have now arrived in the instructions for editing the segdir line  in the MSG4.py file 
I cant get my head around the  segdir script line path  and what to enter.
I have opened up MSG4.py for editing and can see the example line thats there 'Z"/rec_0................... I do not know what to change this path to and also the date format.

I have lots of incoming data in several different directories of EUMETCAST/received 
three examples of these directories are below. I am using Windows10.
D:\EUMETCast\received\bas\Data Channel4
D:\EUMETCASTreceived\hvs-1\E1H-TPG-1
D:\EUMETCAST/received\hvs-2\default

and all the individual files contained in the received folder have date modified  eg 24/12/2021 20:42

Do I just change the path in  segdir to 'D:\EUMETCAST\received'    This is where my incoming data is received.
I am also not sure about what to enter  for the YEAR/MONTH/DAY structure

I could be barking up the wrong tree, and the segdir path is nothing like the above.

regards
Philip


------ Original Message ------
From: "Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io" <ernst.lobsiger@...>
Sent: 01/01/2022 19:30:26
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip,

my instructions say:

<CITE>

Go to

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/wessel/gshhg/

gshhs and wdb files are part of GSHHG. Current version is GSHHG-2.3.7.
We need the native shape files that come in different resolutions and
can all be downloaded on the bottom of the page above. Look for the link:

CAUTION: Do not take the binary files as used by Hugo in EUMETCastView!


"
For ESRI shapefiles of shoreline polygons, rivers, and borders you can choose to get via ftp or http:

    FTP: GSHHG coastlines, political borders and rivers in shapefile format (zip archive)
    HTTP: GSHHG coastlines, political borders and rivers in shapefile format (zip archive)
"

You should get a file named gshhg-shp-2.3.7.zip

</CITE>

The soest page has not changed. The "bottom" does not mean the very last link. Please read my text carefully.
Sigh, I know that reading in the Internet age is a dying art. It's at the same stage as playing the Hammond B3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEST4CJlJkg

Cheers,
Ernst

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Philip,

my instructions say:

<CITE>

Go to

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/wessel/gshhg/

gshhs and wdb files are part of GSHHG. Current version is GSHHG-2.3.7.
We need the native shape files that come in different resolutions and
can all be downloaded on the bottom of the page above. Look for the link:

CAUTION: Do not take the binary files as used by Hugo in EUMETCastView!


"
For ESRI shapefiles of shoreline polygons, rivers, and borders you can choose to get via ftp or http:

    FTP: GSHHG coastlines, political borders and rivers in shapefile format (zip archive)
    HTTP: GSHHG coastlines, political borders and rivers in shapefile format (zip archive)
"

You should get a file named gshhg-shp-2.3.7.zip

</CITE>

The soest page has not changed. The "bottom" does not mean the very last link. Please read my text carefully.
Sigh, I know that reading in the Internet age is a dying art. It's at the same stage as playing the Hammond B3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEST4CJlJkg

Cheers,
Ernst


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Philip,

tar.gz is Tape ARchive compressed with GNU zip. That's for UNIX and GNU/Linux.
You simply downloaded the wrong file. Maybe the layout of the soest web page has
changed (but I don't think so).

Ernst


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip Robinson
 

Hi Christian

It looks as though the link at the bottom of the Hawaii page downloaded the gshhg-gmt-2.3.7 tar.gz

I will use your link and download the gshhg-shp=2.3.7.zip

I just followed Ernst instructions and the lack of my knowledge led me to download the GMT version

Many thanks

Philip

 

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From: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> on behalf of Christian Peters via groups.io <hctpeters@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 6:38:41 PM
To: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit
 
Phillip,

I think you have to load
gshhg-shp-2.3.7.zip
...not the GMT version.

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/pwessel/gshhg/gshhg-shp-2.3.7.zip

Regards,

Christian

Am 01.01.22 um 19:29 schrieb Philip Robinson:
Ernst
thanks for the reply
I will try to explain a little clearer
When i downloaded the gshhg-gmt-2.3.7tar.gz and extracted the contents, the GSHHS_shp and WDBII.shp are not there, and SHAPEFILES.TXT is not there either. I have the files below
COPYING.LESSERv3
COPYINGv3
LICENSE.txt 
READEME.txt
but i also have lots of .inc files
regards
Philip
------ Original Message ------
From: "Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io" <ernst.lobsiger@...>
Sent: 01/01/2022 18:18:46
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip,

welcome to the club of PyTROLL/Satpy users. GSHHG is the name of a collection that has the two parts WDBII (that originated somewhere in the cold war of the 1970ies) and GSHHS.
You get this collection in different file formats. PyTROLL/Satpy uses shape files (which is different from what Hugo uses IIRC). In my data structure these are in the folder gshhg-shp.



Hope this helps and ATB for 2022,
Ernst

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Philip,

I just did the download and must tell you that NOTHING has changed. Maybe you opened the download even before you had it? Just try another download.


Ernst


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Christian Peters
 

Phillip,

I think you have to load
gshhg-shp-2.3.7.zip
...not the GMT version.

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/pwessel/gshhg/gshhg-shp-2.3.7.zip

Regards,

Christian

Am 01.01.22 um 19:29 schrieb Philip Robinson:

Ernst
thanks for the reply
I will try to explain a little clearer
When i downloaded the gshhg-gmt-2.3.7tar.gz and extracted the contents, the GSHHS_shp and WDBII.shp are not there, and SHAPEFILES.TXT is not there either. I have the files below
COPYING.LESSERv3
COPYINGv3
LICENSE.txt 
READEME.txt
but i also have lots of .inc files
regards
Philip
------ Original Message ------
From: "Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io" <ernst.lobsiger@...>
Sent: 01/01/2022 18:18:46
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip,

welcome to the club of PyTROLL/Satpy users. GSHHG is the name of a collection that has the two parts WDBII (that originated somewhere in the cold war of the 1970ies) and GSHHS.
You get this collection in different file formats. PyTROLL/Satpy uses shape files (which is different from what Hugo uses IIRC). In my data structure these are in the folder gshhg-shp.



Hope this helps and ATB for 2022,
Ernst

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip Robinson
 

Ernst
if They are not available by downloading does it still work if you were kind enough to send me copies of the folders GHSS_shp, WDBII.shp and SHAPEFILES.TXT. As long as i install them in the correct gshhg-shp folder , i presume that will not effect my following of your installation instructions.
regards
Philip

------ Original Message ------
From: "Philip Robinson" <philip57@...>
Sent: 01/01/2022 18:29:13
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Ernst
thanks for the reply
I will try to explain a little clearer
When i downloaded the gshhg-gmt-2.3.7tar.gz and extracted the contents, the GSHHS_shp and WDBII.shp are not there, and SHAPEFILES.TXT is not there either. I have the files below
COPYING.LESSERv3
COPYINGv3
LICENSE.txt 
READEME.txt
but i also have lots of .inc files
regards
Philip
------ Original Message ------
From: "Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io" <ernst.lobsiger@...>
Sent: 01/01/2022 18:18:46
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip,

welcome to the club of PyTROLL/Satpy users. GSHHG is the name of a collection that has the two parts WDBII (that originated somewhere in the cold war of the 1970ies) and GSHHS.
You get this collection in different file formats. PyTROLL/Satpy uses shape files (which is different from what Hugo uses IIRC). In my data structure these are in the folder gshhg-shp.



Hope this helps and ATB for 2022,
Ernst

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip Robinson
 

Ernst

Just got your email now. Thats correct, the Zip content has changed . I used  html and ftp to double check but they are not there but as in my previous email  there are .inc files.

Regards

Philip

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io
Sent: 01 January 2022 18:28
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

 

Sorry Philip,

now I understand. You basically say that the ZIP content has changed? This will certainly matter. I'll check that.

Ernst

 


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip Robinson
 

Ernst
thanks for the reply
I will try to explain a little clearer
When i downloaded the gshhg-gmt-2.3.7tar.gz and extracted the contents, the GSHHS_shp and WDBII.shp are not there, and SHAPEFILES.TXT is not there either. I have the files below
COPYING.LESSERv3
COPYINGv3
LICENSE.txt 
READEME.txt
but i also have lots of .inc files
regards
Philip

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io" <ernst.lobsiger@...>
Sent: 01/01/2022 18:18:46
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip,

welcome to the club of PyTROLL/Satpy users. GSHHG is the name of a collection that has the two parts WDBII (that originated somewhere in the cold war of the 1970ies) and GSHHS.
You get this collection in different file formats. PyTROLL/Satpy uses shape files (which is different from what Hugo uses IIRC). In my data structure these are in the folder gshhg-shp.



Hope this helps and ATB for 2022,
Ernst

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Sorry Philip,

now I understand. You basically say that the ZIP content has changed? This will certainly matter. I'll check that.

Ernst


Re: Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Philip,

welcome to the club of PyTROLL/Satpy users. GSHHG is the name of a collection that has the two parts WDBII (that originated somewhere in the cold war of the 1970ies) and GSHHS.
You get this collection in different file formats. PyTROLL/Satpy uses shape files (which is different from what Hugo uses IIRC). In my data structure these are in the folder gshhg-shp.



Hope this helps and ATB for 2022,
Ernst


Using begiiners guide to PyTROLL/SatPy Starter Kit V3.0 for Windows10 64bit

Philip Robinson
 

Hi Ernst or anyone
I am having a go at using PyTroll/SatPy and have printed out and am using the very detailed but easy to follow instructions
All was well until i reached my first stumbling block
After extracting gshhg-shp-2.3.7.zip and then checking the file names and sizes in gshhg-shp. I havent a WDBII_shp or GSHHS_shp directoryb installed
Will this matter. I tried both Html and FTP to download the gshhg-sh2.3.7.zip but in both instances those directory files were not in the extracted downloads
Before i go further with  your instructions i wanted to check if thats still ok that i do not have those 2 folders at this stage.
Happy new Year
Philip


Re: Using MRTG the first time

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 01/01/2022 14:17, nigel wrote:
Cheers Philip.

I agree with David and I wasn't trying to "re invent the wheel"

What maybe is making the difference between where we put mrtg.cfg and all the
.inc files is that my mrtg's are running on a raspberry pi (and hence a version
of linux) and David is running Windows (as you are, I presume).

Either way, it is very good, as you say for keeping the little grey cells active !!

Happy retirement - long may it last.

Regards

Nigel
Yes, I started to suspect the distinction between directories and executable
and non-ex might have been the difference. One of the things I like about MRTG
is that it can be OS neutral, also programs like SDRpp.

Cheers, both.
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
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Email: david-taylor@...
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Re: Using MRTG the first time

nigel
 

Cheers Philip.

I agree with David and I wasn't trying to "re invent the wheel"

What maybe is making the difference between where we put mrtg.cfg and all the .inc files is that my mrtg's are running on a raspberry pi (and hence a version of linux) and David is running Windows (as you are, I presume).

Either way, it is very good, as you say for keeping the little grey cells active !!

Happy retirement - long may it last.

Regards

Nigel

On 01/01/2022 12:22, Philip Robinson wrote:
Hi Nigel
A great  explanation in laymans terms. And thats for me. I got there in the end and now looking back what i have learnt so far , it now seems simple. Thats the learning process.
And a happy new year to yourself as well.
I am retired now but this and lots of other hobbies keeps my brain active, although after last night, its a little inactive this morning.
regards
Philip

------ Original Message ------
From: "nigel" <nigel@...>
Sent: 01/01/2022 05:57:17
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using MRTG the first time

Hi Philip,

very happy and successful New Year.

Glad you've found it !

Yes, as I understand it, MRTG runs the routines in all the .inc files AFTER it has run the lines in it's cfg file.

So, in your case, it was running the sr1-snr lines and producing the graphs in the folder described within the .cfg file.

After that, it would have run the lines within the "sr1-snr.inc" file, if it had been uncommented (no #).

David said that he puts all his .inc files in the mrtg bin folder but I keep them in the same folder as mrtg.cfg.

This is what David meant when he said he has just a basic mrtg.cfg file, to establish the main settings and then has all the individual graphs produced by the external ".inc" files. That makes mrtg very flexible and adaptable.

I hope that is clear enough.

To answer your last point, yes by all means put all the various graph producing lines within the mrtg.cfg file but you will find it more adaptable and  easier to work with if you have all the graph producing lines in their own separate ".inc" files and point mrtg to them by using the "Include: name.inc" line as many times as needed at the end of the mrtg.cfg file.
Until you are more confident, put all the ".inc" files in the same folder as mrtg.cfg.

Continue to experiment !! You can't really break anything but do try new things one step at a time and keep a note of each change you make and watch the resulting graphs. That way you will discover what works for you and what doesn't, so you can go back to the stage that worked!!

Good luck
regards
Nigel

On 31/12/2021 17:02, Philip Robinson wrote:
Hi Nigel
That will be it
I have the sr1-snr script lines in the mrtg.cfg so therefore i did not need that script line include: sr1-snr.inc. I suppose with  the script line include:sr1-snr.inc, when i ran the mrt.cfg in perl it was looking for that script in a different file. So I would have to create another separate file for sr1-snr.inc for it to find
I am a bit of a novice with all this. It seems easier to me for  to just put the sr1-snr script  in to the mrtg.cfg  and just comment this script  out if i didnt want to use it... rather than create another script file file that mrgt,cfg would point it to.
How exactly would i deal with the sr1-snr.inc script file if i did not write it in to the mrtg.cfg. Where would the script file  go and would i then have to add in the mrtg.cfg  Include: sr1-snr.inc. How then does mrtg.cfg know where this sr1-snr.inc script  file is. Where do you place it.
I hope that makes sense. I almost confused myself typing this email. Thats how bad i am
Its good all is working with the scripts though
I might have to tackle my TBS card next
many thanks
Philip
------ Original Message ------
From: "nigel" <nigel@...>
Sent: 31/12/2021 12:48:54
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using MRTG the first time

Hi Philip,

It was David who pointed out the # in front of the Include line. I hadn't spotted that myself.

Are you sure you haven't got the sr1-snr script lines inside the mrtg.cfg file as well as in the .inc file ??

I'm mystified !!

Nigel

On 30/12/2021 18:24, Philip Robinson wrote:

Hi Nigel

Thats strange . I knew the # was a comment  but the sr1-snr.inc script works fine, so I didn’t remove it (if it aint broke don`t fix it). I wonder if its because I have no # in front of any of the sr1-snr.inc script lines itself

Regards

Philip

 

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From: David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 via groups.io
Sent: 30 December 2021 16:15
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using MRTG the first time

 

On 30/12/2021 15:44, Philip Robinson wrote:
> Hi Nigel
> I altered several sections of the script and i have attached the mrtg.cfg
> script thats working for me . Could be useful to others who might get some tips
> from it.
> regards
> Philip

Philip,

In your attached script I see:

   # Include: sr1-snr.inc

You do realise that the "#" marks the line as a comment, I guess, so that
sr1-snr.inc will /not/ be included?  Helpful for testing, of course!

Cheers,
David
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Re: Starting out to receive EUMETCAST

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

On 01/01/2022 11:16, Allan Sloan via groups.io wrote:
Happy New Year to All.

This year I have set a challenge to set up a geostationary weather satellite
system.

Looking to receive EUMETCAST and then do some PyTroll/SatPy.
I have been receiving NOAA orbital weather satellites for a number of years now.

Can someone point me in the direction of a good web site or give me some good
advice on what is required.

Also any advice on what hardware will be require.

* Dish size
* LNB
* DVB-S2
* Computer requirements

I believe that dish size is important. I am looking to acquire a  38" disc. My
location is Irvine in Scotland.

Also what software and licenses will be required.

All help gratefully received.

Regards

Allan
Allan,

Welcome to the group!

This guide may be a useful starting point, although not updated to the latest
requirements:
https://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/atovs/index.html

Dish size: 1m or bigger

LNB: a good one, but one for "satellite TV" is fine. Inverto quad is what I
would recommend but perhaps there are better today?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inverto-Quad-HGLN-Ultra-LNB-Black
High gain allows for longer cable length
Quad output allows for future services

The TBS5927 is popular but only handles the BAS and HVS-1 service. The
TBS6903X is a PCI card capable of handling all three current services (BAS,
HVS-1 and HVS-2).

Computer - depends on how much you want to do. Quad core or better, 16 GB or
better, no special graphics card needed.

This is just a starting guide - discuss with the group here for more information.

I offer software for Windows which some find easier than the PyTroll route
which requires more computer nous!

Cheers,
David
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Starting out to receive EUMETCAST

Allan Sloan
 

Happy New Year to All.

This year I have set a challenge to set up a geostationary weather satellite system.

Looking to receive EUMETCAST and then do some PyTroll/SatPy.
I have been receiving NOAA orbital weather satellites for a number of years now.

Can someone point me in the direction of a good web site or give me some good advice on what is required.

Also any advice on what hardware will be require.

  • Dish size
  • LNB
  • DVB-S2
  • Computer requirements
I believe that dish size is important. I am looking to acquire a  38" disc. My location is Irvine in Scotland.

Also what software and licenses will be required.

All help gratefully received.

Regards

Allan


Re: Using MRTG the first time

Philip Robinson
 

Hi Nigel
A great  explanation in laymans terms. And thats for me. I got there in the end and now looking back what i have learnt so far , it now seems simple. Thats the learning process.
And a happy new year to yourself as well.
I am retired now but this and lots of other hobbies keeps my brain active, although after last night, its a little inactive this morning.
regards
Philip

------ Original Message ------
From: "nigel" <nigel@...>
Sent: 01/01/2022 05:57:17
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using MRTG the first time

Hi Philip,

very happy and successful New Year.

Glad you've found it !

Yes, as I understand it, MRTG runs the routines in all the .inc files AFTER it has run the lines in it's cfg file.

So, in your case, it was running the sr1-snr lines and producing the graphs in the folder described within the .cfg file.

After that, it would have run the lines within the "sr1-snr.inc" file, if it had been uncommented (no #).

David said that he puts all his .inc files in the mrtg bin folder but I keep them in the same folder as mrtg.cfg.

This is what David meant when he said he has just a basic mrtg.cfg file, to establish the main settings and then has all the individual graphs produced by the external ".inc" files. That makes mrtg very flexible and adaptable.

I hope that is clear enough.

To answer your last point, yes by all means put all the various graph producing lines within the mrtg.cfg file but you will find it more adaptable and  easier to work with if you have all the graph producing lines in their own separate ".inc" files and point mrtg to them by using the "Include: name.inc" line as many times as needed at the end of the mrtg.cfg file.
Until you are more confident, put all the ".inc" files in the same folder as mrtg.cfg.

Continue to experiment !! You can't really break anything but do try new things one step at a time and keep a note of each change you make and watch the resulting graphs. That way you will discover what works for you and what doesn't, so you can go back to the stage that worked!!

Good luck
regards
Nigel

On 31/12/2021 17:02, Philip Robinson wrote:
Hi Nigel
That will be it
I have the sr1-snr script lines in the mrtg.cfg so therefore i did not need that script line include: sr1-snr.inc. I suppose with  the script line include:sr1-snr.inc, when i ran the mrt.cfg in perl it was looking for that script in a different file. So I would have to create another separate file for sr1-snr.inc for it to find
I am a bit of a novice with all this. It seems easier to me for  to just put the sr1-snr script  in to the mrtg.cfg  and just comment this script  out if i didnt want to use it... rather than create another script file file that mrgt,cfg would point it to.
How exactly would i deal with the sr1-snr.inc script file if i did not write it in to the mrtg.cfg. Where would the script file  go and would i then have to add in the mrtg.cfg  Include: sr1-snr.inc. How then does mrtg.cfg know where this sr1-snr.inc script  file is. Where do you place it.
I hope that makes sense. I almost confused myself typing this email. Thats how bad i am
Its good all is working with the scripts though
I might have to tackle my TBS card next
many thanks
Philip
------ Original Message ------
From: "nigel" <nigel@...>
Sent: 31/12/2021 12:48:54
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using MRTG the first time

Hi Philip,

It was David who pointed out the # in front of the Include line. I hadn't spotted that myself.

Are you sure you haven't got the sr1-snr script lines inside the mrtg.cfg file as well as in the .inc file ??

I'm mystified !!

Nigel

On 30/12/2021 18:24, Philip Robinson wrote:

Hi Nigel

Thats strange . I knew the # was a comment  but the sr1-snr.inc script works fine, so I didn’t remove it (if it aint broke don`t fix it). I wonder if its because I have no # in front of any of the sr1-snr.inc script lines itself

Regards

Philip

 

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From: David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 via groups.io
Sent: 30 December 2021 16:15
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Using MRTG the first time

 

On 30/12/2021 15:44, Philip Robinson wrote:
> Hi Nigel
> I altered several sections of the script and i have attached the mrtg.cfg
> script thats working for me . Could be useful to others who might get some tips
> from it.
> regards
> Philip

Philip,

In your attached script I see:

   # Include: sr1-snr.inc

You do realise that the "#" marks the line as a comment, I guess, so that
sr1-snr.inc will /not/ be included?  Helpful for testing, of course!

Cheers,
David
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Web: https://www.satsignal.eu
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Twitter: @gm8arv




 


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