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Re: TBS 5927

Daniele Guardigli
 

In fact I've problems with HVS-1


Il Mar 4 Mag 2021, 13:48 Youssef Bennouna <ybennouna@...> ha scritto:
Hi,
I am using a TBS 5927 (1 month) it works OK, at least with the Basic service, the driver version I have is 1.0.0.7 downloaded from the TBS site.
Regards

Youssef Bennouna
ETUDES ET MESURES LES 5 DOMAINES

Villa 176, Bassatine El Menzeh
12123 - EL MENZEH
MAROC
TEL :  (+212)    0537 01 14 41
GSM :  (+212) 0661 10 97 43

-----Message d'origine-----
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Envoyé : mardi 4 mai 2021 11:07
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Objet : [MSG-1] TBS 5927


Can anyone who is using the TBS 5927 successfully on Windows 10 and by that I mean no losses or missed/recovered packets from their end please advise which TBS driver they are using.

Regards
Ian.











Re: TBS 5927

Youssef Bennouna
 

Hi,
I am using a TBS 5927 (1 month) it works OK, at least with the Basic service, the driver version I have is 1.0.0.7 downloaded from the TBS site.
Regards

Youssef Bennouna
ETUDES ET MESURES LES 5 DOMAINES

Villa 176, Bassatine El Menzeh
12123 - EL MENZEH
MAROC
TEL : (+212) 0537 01 14 41
GSM : (+212) 0661 10 97 43

-----Message d'origine-----
De : MSG-1@groups.io [mailto:MSG-1@groups.io] De la part de Ian Deans via groups.io
Envoyé : mardi 4 mai 2021 11:07
À : MSG-1@groups.io
Objet : [MSG-1] TBS 5927


Can anyone who is using the TBS 5927 successfully on Windows 10 and by that I mean no losses or missed/recovered packets from their end please advise which TBS driver they are using.

Regards
Ian.


Re: TBS 5927

Daniele Guardigli
 

I always have a lot of missing packets, even with an snr of 13.1dB. Following.


Il Mar 4 Mag 2021, 13:06 Ian Deans via groups.io <iandeans142=btinternet.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
       
Can anyone who is using the TBS 5927 successfully on Windows 10 and by
that I mean no losses or missed/recovered packets from their end please
advise which TBS driver they are using.

Regards
Ian.






TBS 5927

Ian Deans
 

Can anyone who is using the TBS 5927 successfully on Windows 10 and by that I mean no losses or missed/recovered packets from their end please advise which TBS driver they are using.

Regards
Ian.


Re: Tellicast

Ernst Lobsiger
 

On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 03:44 PM, Youssef Bennouna wrote:
So it seems that my LM is ~ 3.1-3.5 for basic service and almost 0 dB for HVs-1, less than what Eumetsat recommends but it works for basic.
Youssef,

with the low SNR you have even Basic Service is impaired by non working HVS-1. You should get far less missed Basic packets
if you set the MODCOD filter 8PSK 3/5 for Basic Service only. Of course then it's absolutely impossible to get HVS-1 lock this way.

So your first thing is to improve pointing. With a 1.2m dish you can do much better but it is also very sensitive. So make minor adjustments
from where you are only. A quick and raw entry of 33.9, -5.5 and EUTELSAT 10A on https://www.dishpointer.com shows Elevation 47.2° and
Azimuth 153.6° and a VERY IMPRESSIVE skew of -21.7°. You should drag the marker to your very exact antenna position in the first place.

You adjust Azimuth, Elevation, Focus, Skew. It's a must to have an SNR reading or acoustic signal in place if you want an optimum result.

Good luck
Ernst


Re: Tellicast

Youssef Bennouna
 

Thank you very much Ernst,

So it seems that my LM is ~ 3.1-3.5 for basic service and almost 0 dB for HVs-1, less than what Eumetsat recommends but it works for basic.

The first thing to do; enhance the pointing of my dish (1.2m). I will stay on TBS-IP Tools, it works for me.

Thank you again for these explanations and recommendations.

Best regards

Youssef Bennouna

ETUDES ET MESURES LES 5 DOMAINES

Villa 176, Bassatine El Menzeh

12123 - EL MENZEH

MAROC

TEL :  (+212)    0537 01 14 41

GSM :  (+212) 0661 10 97 43


Re: Tellicast

Ernst Lobsiger
 

On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 11:03 AM, Youssef Bennouna wrote:
Do you think it’s a good idea to use CrazyCat's BDA-DataEx? Any advantage?
Youssef,

I never had a Windows receiver. If TBS IP-Tool works for you stay with it. A couple of people including David
have reported "Blue Screens Of Death" (BSODs) with TBS IP-Tool and have changed to CrazyCat's solution.
Others have not seen BSODs and were happy with TBS IP-Tool (seems PC harware and version dependant).

Ernst


Re: Tellicast

Ernst Lobsiger
 

On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 11:03 AM, Youssef Bennouna wrote:
Concerning the SNR, I think it’s less, usually around 9-9.5 according to the TBS interface.
Youssef,

with SNR 9.0 - 9.5dB you cannot receive HVS-1. EUMETSAT says you should have 4dB link margin (LM) for good reception.
LM depends on SNR and MODCOD used. I apply these formulas in my monitoring (also hard coded in Ayecka SR1 firmware).

Basic service:   MODCOD = 8PSK 3/5,  LM = SNR - 5.9 dB
HVS-1 service: MODCOD = 16APSK 2/3, LM = SNR - 9.3 dB

This shows you have around zero link margin for HVS-1. With my proposed SNR of 12dB you get LM = 12 - 9.3 = 2.7dB.
Not exactly 4dB as proposed by EUMETSAT but it will work with then and when HVS-1 UDP packets or even files lost.

Below is what I have with a 1.25m dish on a rather rainy day. HVS-1 reception is possible with a well aligned 0.85m dish.
Aligning a dish is an art in itself. A good start is using the sun for azimuth (a magnetic compass is no good). Also check:

https://www-cdn.eumetsat.int/files/2020-04/pdf_eumetcast_anten_point_guide.pdf


Regards,
Ernst









Re: Tellicast

Youssef Bennouna
 

Hello Ernst,

Yes, I am using TBS-IP Tool.

Concerning the SNR, I think it’s less, usually around 9-9.5 according to the TBS interface. Concerning the MOCODEs, I selected all the modes to avoid any filtering.

Yesterday I received some data during 5-10 minutes and that’s it. After that it stopped, I thought I made a false manipulation.

Thank you for the reply, I think I should first fix better my dish.

Do you think it’s a good idea to use CrazyCat's BDA-DataEx? Any advantage?

Best regards

 

Youssef Bennouna

ETUDES ET MESURES LES 5 DOMAINES

 

Villa 176, Bassatine El Menzeh

12123 - EL MENZEH

MAROC

TEL :  (+212)    0537 01 14 41

GSM :  (+212) 0661 10 97 43

 

De : MSG-1@groups.io [mailto:MSG-1@groups.io] De la part de Ernst Lobsiger via groups.io
Envoyé : dimanche 2 mai 2021 14:23
À : MSG-1@groups.io
Objet : Re: [MSG-1] Tellicast

 

Hi Youssef

Do you use TBS IP-Tool or CrazyCat's BDA-DataEx?
Do you have enough SNR (it shoud be 12dB or above for HVS-1)?
Are you sure you have no MODCOD filter set (that prevents HVS-1 trafic to get through)?

Regards,
Ernst


Re: Tellicast

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Hi Youssef

Do you use TBS IP-Tool or CrazyCat's BDA-DataEx?
Do you have enough SNR (it shoud be 12dB or above for HVS-1)?
Are you sure you have no MODCOD filter set (that prevents HVS-1 trafic to get through)?

Regards,
Ernst


Tellicast

Youssef Bennouna
 

Hello everybody,
I am trying to get data through TSL-HVS1 but the tellicast stays in the "connecting" state. I receive data through Basic service normally.
I checked the *.ini files, I also compared the bas*.in to *.hvs-1.ini, found nothing. As I am new to the Tellicast system I am not sure about parameters like "max_memory_usage", parameters like "receive_buffer_size"....
I am using a TBS 5927, I have a RAM disk of 500Mb on my computer (Windows10).
Can someone show me a way to debug this problem? or maybe send me a sample of the config file?
Thank you for any help or idea.
Youssef


Eumetcast HVS-2 tellicast .. red icon...help please

Philip Robinson
 

Hi
I hope someone can help as ive forgotten how to resolve this problem

On starting tellicast hvs-2 i have a red icon bottom right  of screen
Checking the log file it seems to be something to do with the announcement channel
the log file error shows
Failed to open announcement channel `TSL-HVS-2` address 224.223.224.223:4711 (Bad interface address)

i am sure its something simple i have to do, but my memory has let me down on this one. I am sure that  i have fixed this sort of problem in the past

hope someone can help
Philip
thx


Re: EumetCast server receiption stations monitoring with Zabbix

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Hi

No one here has AFAIK used Zabbix that seems to be an overkill for monitoring EUMETCast receivers.
Windows users with TC monitoring have MRTG running and there is much documentation on Davids site.

http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-europe_link_margin.php

On my GNU/Linux TC receivers I use eLuna/RRDtool with graphic output via Apache2 (no SNMP though).

https://groups.io/g/MSG-1/message/31172

Regards,
Ernst



EumetCast server receiption stations monitoring with Zabbix

jevgenijs.ugorenko@...
 

Hello!
I have one question to be discussed:

How it will increase EumetCast SAT server working processes if I will add on it Zabbix monitoring systems agent2 (it could be 2 types: active or passive (wich eats less SYS memory)?


Re: Tellicast Losses

Cornish Man
 

Hi

 

I was wondering why my signal was getting stronger.

I was usually getting 11.3db and now its at 12.3db

Hope it keeps like that

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: geojohnt via groups.io
Sent: 01 May 2021 10:12
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Tellicast Losses

 

Ian,

 

Just logged on to my email's and I was about to comment on this first and then saw you post.

 

Yes, I'm afraid 'someone was obviously listening?'

We should have kept quiet and hoped 'the powers that be' didn't notice they were pushing out too much power.

At one point yesterday I was down to 13.3 dB - from 14.00 dB.

 

Hey-ho.

We've had these brief periods of 'increased' SNR before.

But I've never seen it this high since the good old days some years ago before the two (three?) step reductions we've had over time.

 

I'm looking forward to the parallel running test period of EUMETCast from Hotbird in a weeks time to compare the SNR on TP 1.

 

Regards,

John.

 

++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Spoke too soon John, as sometime earlier today the increased signal I

had been seeing vanished and signal levels back to where they were.

Unfortunate as I need all the signal I can get up here.



Regards
Ian.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Deans via groups.io <iandeans142@...>
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Sent: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 22:16
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Tellicast Losses



On 30/04/2021 11:32, geojohnt via groups.io wrote:

>
> John I am seeing an increase in signal since yesterday as well, up about
> 0.3 SNR. When others reported a signal increase recently, I had not seen
> any increase, so this is very welcome and let us hope it remains.
>
> Although it varies depending the time of day, I am now seeing a signal
> of about 13.3/13.4 SNR with a 1.1 metre dish which is pretty good this
> far north in Angus.
>
> Regards
> Ian.
>=====================================================================



 


Re: Tellicast Losses

geojohnt@...
 

Ian,

Just logged on to my email's and I was about to comment on this first and then saw you post.

Yes, I'm afraid 'someone was obviously listening?'
We should have kept quiet and hoped 'the powers that be' didn't notice they were pushing out too much power.
At one point yesterday I was down to 13.3 dB - from 14.00 dB.

Hey-ho.
We've had these brief periods of 'increased' SNR before.
But I've never seen it this high since the good old days some years ago before the two (three?) step reductions we've had over time.

I'm looking forward to the parallel running test period of EUMETCast from Hotbird in a weeks time to compare the SNR on TP 1.

Regards,
John.

++++++++++++++++++++++

Spoke too soon John, as sometime earlier today the increased signal I
had been seeing vanished and signal levels back to where they were.

Unfortunate as I need all the signal I can get up here.


Regards
Ian.



-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Deans via groups.io <iandeans142@...>
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Sent: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 22:16
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Tellicast Losses



On 30/04/2021 11:32, geojohnt via groups.io wrote:

>
> John I am seeing an increase in signal since yesterday as well, up about
> 0.3 SNR. When others reported a signal increase recently, I had not seen
> any increase, so this is very welcome and let us hope it remains.
>
> Although it varies depending the time of day, I am now seeing a signal
> of about 13.3/13.4 SNR with a 1.1 metre dish which is pretty good this
> far north in Angus.
>
> Regards
> Ian.
>=====================================================================






Re: Tellicast Losses

Ian Deans
 

On 30/04/2021 11:32, geojohnt via groups.io wrote:

John I am seeing an increase in signal since yesterday as well, up about
0.3 SNR. When others reported a signal increase recently, I had not seen
any increase, so this is very welcome and let us hope it remains.
Although it varies depending the time of day, I am now seeing a signal
of about 13.3/13.4 SNR with a 1.1 metre dish which is pretty good this
far north in Angus.
Regards
Ian.
=====================================================================
Spoke too soon John, as sometime earlier today the increased signal I had been seeing vanished and signal levels back to where they were.

Unfortunate as I need all the signal I can get up here.

Regards
Ian.


Re: Eumetcastview rgb AVHRR

Hugo
 

Hi Daniele,

No it is not possible in the current release, but I am sure that you can do that in Gimp or Photoshop  ....

Grts,

Hugo


Re: Tellicast Losses

geojohnt@...
 

Hello Ian,

Good to hear you are seeing and improved signal up there in Scotland.

I should have said that my SR1 Power reading remains at - 25 dBm 'despite' the increased SNR.

My SNR was steady at 14.00 dB till around an hour ago and is now 13.8/9 dB.
Ooops, just stepped briefly to 13.7.
But 'sun is up' and atmosphere active.

Mmmm, and Power stepping to - 26 dBm every now and again

As you say, let's hope it continues - I mean the increased SNR.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++

John I am seeing an increase in signal since yesterday as well, up about

0.3 SNR. When others reported a signal increase recently, I had not seen
any increase, so this is very welcome and let us hope it remains.

Although it varies depending the time of day, I am now seeing a signal
of about 13.3/13.4 SNR with a 1.1 metre dish which is pretty good this
far north in Angus.

Regards
Ian.

++++++++++++++

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Deans via groups.io <iandeans142@...>
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Sent: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 9:52
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Tellicast Losses



On 29/04/2021 23:09, geojohnt via groups.io wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> Something is 'going on?'
> 22:00 UTC and my BS/HVS-1 TP 1 SNR is a steady 14.00 dB.
> 1 m dish, quad Inverto Black Ultra LNB, SR1 RX.
>
> SNR 'should be' around 13.6/7 dB.
>
> Regards,
> John.

=============================================================







Re: Tellicast Losses

Ian Deans
 

On 29/04/2021 23:09, geojohnt via groups.io wrote:
Hello again,
Something is 'going on?'
22:00 UTC and my BS/HVS-1 TP 1 SNR is a steady 14.00 dB.
1 m dish, quad Inverto Black Ultra LNB, SR1 RX.
SNR 'should be' around 13.6/7 dB.
Regards,
John.
=============================================================

John I am seeing an increase in signal since yesterday as well, up about 0.3 SNR. When others reported a signal increase recently, I had not seen any increase, so this is very welcome and let us hope it remains.

Although it varies depending the time of day, I am now seeing a signal of about 13.3/13.4 SNR with a 1.1 metre dish which is pretty good this far north in Angus.

Regards
Ian.

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