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Re: Signal Level

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Same here. I can confirm this!
Regards
Hartmut

David, Ian

I can confirm that after a short period of with an increase of the
signal level 0,5 dB up the level decreased later that evening to a level
below 14 dB.
At this moment the signal level is 14,1 dB which is 0,2/0,3 dB lower
that the average level i saw the last months with clear sky in the morning.

Greetings Herman
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Folks,

Thanks, both, for the confirmation. I suggest reporting this to EUMETSAT so that they are at least aware of the issue, although the response may be simply that "our provider says it's within specification".

Cheers,
David
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Re: Signal Level

Hartmut Schulla
 

Same here. I can confirm this!
Regards
Hartmut

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: MSG-1@groups.io [mailto:MSG-1@groups.io] Im Auftrag von Herman Vijlbrief
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Februar 2020 09:26
An: MSG-1@groups.io
Betreff: Re: [MSG-1] Signal Level

David, Ian

I can confirm that after a short period of with an increase of the
signal level 0,5 dB up the level decreased later that evening to a level
below 14 dB.
At this moment the signal level is 14,1 dB which is 0,2/0,3 dB lower
that the average level i saw the last months with clear sky in the morning.

Greetings Herman


Thanks, Ian.  I've not heard anything from EUMETSAT, except their
standard response that the services are provided by a third party.

If you see my data as being out of date please try a Ctrl_F5 (or what
even incantation is required for your browser this week!). I do see
similar effects on a number of other stations, and refresh sorts it. 
I'm not quite sure why it is, but something isn't telling the Web
server / browser client that the image needs to be downloaded again
as it's been updated.  Perhap someone more expert in HTML can suggest
something?

Cheers,
David
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Thanks for your reply David. I have done many refresh attempts to no
avail.

I have just very recently updated to the new Microsoft Edge browser
which is now available for download and it appears that browser is
what is causing the problem but only on your lost/missed and recovered
graphs, with all other graphs being fine. Internet Explorer shows all
graphs up to date so I will you that browser when required.

Regards
Ian.




Re: Signal Level

Herman Vijlbrief
 

David, Ian

I can confirm that after a short period of with an increase of the signal level 0,5 dB up the level decreased later that evening to a level below 14 dB.
At this moment the signal level is 14,1 dB which is 0,2/0,3 dB lower that the average level i saw the last months with clear sky in the morning.

Greetings Herman


Thanks, Ian.  I've not heard anything from EUMETSAT, except their standard response that the services are provided by a third party.

If you see my data as being out of date please try a Ctrl_F5 (or what even incantation is required for your browser this week!). I do see similar effects on a number of other stations, and refresh sorts it.  I'm not quite sure why it is, but something isn't telling the Web server / browser client that the image needs to be downloaded again as it's been updated.  Perhap someone more expert in HTML can suggest something?

Cheers,
David
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Thanks for your reply David. I have done many refresh attempts to no avail.

I have just very recently updated to the new Microsoft Edge browser which is now available for download and it appears that browser is what is causing the problem but only on your lost/missed and recovered graphs, with all other graphs being fine. Internet Explorer shows all graphs up to date so I will you that browser when required.

Regards
Ian.



Re: Signal Level

Ian Deans
 

On 05/02/2020 18:23, David J Taylor via Groups.Io wrote:
I have just seen a number of mails re an increase in signal level of
about 0.5dB and cannot believe what I am reading !!!
I was about to send a mail reporting that for the last 4 hours or so in
clear conditions my signal level is down by 0.5 SNR up here north of
Dundee and still is. What is going on !!!
When I checked your level David from your graph about 2 hours ago your
level looked a bit down as well.
By the way David I noticed that your lost and missed and recovered
graphs appear to be about 4/5 days old.
Regards
Ian.
Thanks, Ian.  I've not heard anything from EUMETSAT, except their standard response that the services are provided by a third party.
If you see my data as being out of date please try a Ctrl_F5 (or what even incantation is required for your browser this week!).  I do see similar effects on a number of other stations, and refresh sorts it. I'm not quite sure why it is, but something isn't telling the Web server / browser client that the image needs to be downloaded again as it's been updated.  Perhap someone more expert in HTML can suggest something?
Cheers,
David
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Thanks for your reply David. I have done many refresh attempts to no avail.

I have just very recently updated to the new Microsoft Edge browser which is now available for download and it appears that browser is what is causing the problem but only on your lost/missed and recovered graphs, with all other graphs being fine. Internet Explorer shows all graphs up to date so I will you that browser when required.

Regards
Ian.


Re: Signal Level

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

I have just seen a number of mails re an increase in signal level of
about 0.5dB and cannot believe what I am reading !!!

I was about to send a mail reporting that for the last 4 hours or so in
clear conditions my signal level is down by 0.5 SNR up here north of
Dundee and still is. What is going on !!!

When I checked your level David from your graph about 2 hours ago your
level looked a bit down as well.

By the way David I noticed that your lost and missed and recovered
graphs appear to be about 4/5 days old.

Regards
Ian.
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Thanks, Ian. I've not heard anything from EUMETSAT, except their standard response that the services are provided by a third party.

If you see my data as being out of date please try a Ctrl_F5 (or what even incantation is required for your browser this week!). I do see similar effects on a number of other stations, and refresh sorts it. I'm not quite sure why it is, but something isn't telling the Web server / browser client that the image needs to be downloaded again as it's been updated. Perhap someone more expert in HTML can suggest something?

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
Twitter: @gm8arv


Data Tailor query

James Brown
 

A while back I worked through the manual for the new software package and also watched the online video presentation - referenced via Twitter.

Personally I found the package a bit too abstruse and ungainly as an amateur.

Just wondering how others have found it.

Mind you I am comparing it with the RR of user friendly packages ;-))

James


Re: Signal level up 0,5 dB

geojohnt@...
 

All,

Mmmmm.

I didn't notice my signal level last evening, but for a couple of days now I would say that my SNR is about 
0.2 dB lower than normal under clear sky conditions.
SW London 1 m dish, SR1.

This morning under foggy conditions I would say my SNR is 0.3 dB down on what it 'should be.'

Regards,
John.




Re: 2met software

Cornish Man
 

Hi

I just emailed them to find out about the software

On Tuesday, 4 February 2020, 19:18:17 GMT, Nadi2016@... <nadi2016@...> wrote:


Hello,
I would like to buy 2met Sofware because they claim a wide range of capabilities(Processing all of Eumetcast data and ...), but I couldn't find a demo or any video from the software. Has anyone worked with this software? What is your Idea about this matter? 


Re: Signal level up 0,5 dB

James Brown
 

On 4 Feb 2020, at 19:37, David J Taylor via Groups.Io <david-taylor=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Hi to all,

Tonight I noticed that my signal level is about 0,5 dB up comparing to the normal level of the last month's.
The Es/No level is now a stable 15 dB received with an Ayecka / 125 cm dish/35m cable at my location 16 KM south west of Amsterdam.

I hope that this is seen on more locations an has is on this level in the future.

Greetings Herman Vijlbrief
==============================================

Yes, I see this for some people, perhaps on both transponders.

https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-europe_link_margin.php

Whether it will last, who knows? It's very welcome, though.

David
--
Strange dip before and now another dip. Suggesting the signal increase was a mistake?

Cheers,
James.


Signal Level

Ian Deans
 

I have just seen a number of mails re an increase in signal level of about 0.5dB and cannot believe what I am reading !!!

I was about to send a mail reporting that for the last 4 hours or so in clear conditions my signal level is down by 0.5 SNR up here north of Dundee and still is. What is going on !!!

When I checked your level David from your graph about 2 hours ago your level looked a bit down as well.

By the way David I noticed that your lost and missed and recovered graphs appear to be about 4/5 days old.

Regards
Ian.


Re: Signal level up 0,5 dB

Douglas Deans
 

On 04/02/2020 19:21, Herman Vijlbrief wrote:
Hi to all,
Tonight I noticed that my signal level is about 0,5 dB up comparing to the normal level of the last month's.
The Es/No level is now a stable 15 dB received with an Ayecka / 125 cm dish/35m cable at my location 16 KM south west of Amsterdam.
I hope that this is seen on more locations an has is on this level in the future.
Greetings Herman Vijlbrief
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I have just noticed that on a beautiful clear night my signal here in central Scotland is down approximately 0.6 dB. Should be about 12.2/12.3 and is 11.7 at the moment.
Very strange and for the first time ever I have parity with HVS2.

Regards,
Douglas.


Re: Signal level up 0,5 dB

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Hi to all,

Tonight I noticed that my signal level is about 0,5 dB up comparing to the normal level of the last month's.
The Es/No level is now a stable 15 dB received with an Ayecka / 125 cm dish/35m cable at my location 16 KM south west of Amsterdam.

I hope that this is seen on more locations an has is on this level in the future.

Greetings Herman Vijlbrief
==============================================

Yes, I see this for some people, perhaps on both transponders.

https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-europe_link_margin.php

Whether it will last, who knows? It's very welcome, though.

David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
Twitter: @gm8arv


Re: Signal level up 0,5 dB

Stefano Mina
 

Yes Herman, even here in central Italy the SNR has increased. I hope it is not the usual momentary change of uplink and that this is maintained!
Regards
Stephen.

 

Da: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> Per conto di Herman Vijlbrief
Inviato: martedì 4 febbraio 2020 20:21
A: MSG-1@groups.io
Oggetto: [MSG-1] Signal level up 0,5 dB

 

Hi to all,

Tonight I noticed that my signal level is about 0,5 dB up comparing to the normal level of the last month's.
The Es/No level is now a stable 15 dB received with an Ayecka / 125 cm dish/35m cable at my location 16 KM south west of Amsterdam.

I hope that this is seen on more locations an has is on this level in the future.

Greetings Herman Vijlbrief


Signal level up 0,5 dB

Herman Vijlbrief
 

Hi to all,

Tonight I noticed that my signal level is about 0,5 dB up comparing to the normal level of the last month's.
The Es/No level is now a stable 15 dB received with an Ayecka / 125 cm dish/35m cable at my location 16 KM south west of Amsterdam.

I hope that this is seen on more locations an has is on this level in the future.

Greetings Herman Vijlbrief


2met software

Nadi2016@...
 

Hello,
I would like to buy 2met Sofware because they claim a wide range of capabilities(Processing all of Eumetcast data and ...), but I couldn't find a demo or any video from the software. Has anyone worked with this software? What is your Idea about this matter? 


Re: Metop Manager

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

can someone help i am not getting any picture in metop tag in metop manager ? i have latest version i am receiving GAC

Thanks Brian G7TYP
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Brian,

Likely I'm out of date here, but my understanding is:

- Metop-A is now sent on the HVS-1.

- Metop-B and Metop-C are sent on the BS, as is the NOAA-19 GAC.

Is there anything helpful in the program's Lo information?

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
Twitter: @gm8arv


Re: Announcements query

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

From: James Brown

I am just wondering if I am alone in wishing that when an announcement update from Eumetsat is given it could be tailored to the specific item to which it refers? The last one I saw included 32 announcements which had to be worked through - or am I being picky or not understanding the delivery method properly?

JB out and about
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I do wish the main announcements were more like the SAF method! One message, one announcement, but they have less to cover, of course. I was told that the composite message lists announcements in order of applicability, perhaps that explains things. EUMETSAT do much better on Twitter, where each announcement is targeted at something happening soon with a meaningful topic, but even there reference is often just to the UNS with a number, but not to a link taking you directly to the numbered announcement, with it expanded to show the detail.

The full announcements (Thursday) will have to be a composite, but the updates would be better with a topic reference and the single item, not 32!

Maybe the professionals have message filters set up to match their interest, Something we could discuss on July 02?

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
Twitter: @gm8arv


Metop Manager

brian@...
 

can someone help i am not getting any picture in metop tag in metop manager ? i have latest version i am receiving GAC 

Thanks Brian G7TYP


Re: Announcements query

geojohnt@...
 

Hello James,

>Shot myself in the foot there by forgetting to cut previous text!!! Doh!

Well, not really.

Your comment made me have a belated look today at the 'PID's List' following my comments to EUMETSAT last year.

Gosh, the lists are getting fuller and fuller and longer and longer.
In the current format, it's difficult to itemise each PID's 'multiple content.'

But I agree with your comments regarding announcements.
Perhaps I'm not registered for the 'correct' news service, and/or should consult their website in a more timely manner?

Regards,
John

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-----Original Message-----
From: James Brown <satellite@...>
To: MSG-1 <MSG-1@groups.io>
Sent: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 9:23
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] Announcements query


On 29 Jan 2020, at 09:21, James Brown <satellite@...> wrote:
>
> I am just wondering if I am alone in wishing that when an announcement update from Eumetsat is given it could be tailored to the specific item to which it refers? The last one I saw included 32 announcements which had to be worked through - or am I being picky or not understanding the delivery method properly?
>
> JB out and about

Shot myself in the foot there by forgetting to cut previous text!!! Doh!



Re: Announcements query

James Brown
 

On 29 Jan 2020, at 09:21, James Brown <satellite@meteosat.co.uk> wrote:

I am just wondering if I am alone in wishing that when an announcement update from Eumetsat is given it could be tailored to the specific item to which it refers? The last one I saw included 32 announcements which had to be worked through - or am I being picky or not understanding the delivery method properly?

JB out and about
Shot myself in the foot there by forgetting to cut previous text!!! Doh!

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