Re: TP 1 SNR this morning - 09:00 + UTC.
geojohnt@...
Jan,
You have a real problem with your system.
With a 110 cm dish in your location you should be seeing an SNR of at least 13 + dB.
Regards,
John.
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In a message dated 06/11/2019 12:40:55 GMT Standard Time, cornishman68@... writes:
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Re: TP 1 SNR this morning - 09:00 + UTC.
geojohnt@...
Hello Stephen,
Thanks for that.
This confirms my now reduced SNR from the higher level this morning.
Best wishes,
John.
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In a message dated 06/11/2019 15:32:21 GMT Standard Time, stefanomina@... writes:
And so true! the back-up connection provides a greater sensitivity than the standard up link.
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Re: TP 1 SNR this morning - 09:00 + UTC.
geojohnt@...
David and Douglas,
It seems I spoke too soon!
My SNR is now back to normal at 15:50 having just come in.
13.1 dB from the steady high of 13.5/6 dB earlier.
It's become cloudy here now but not rain clouds at the moment.
I reported our increases to Ops and they opened a call.
However, KP is away till the 12th so we probably won't get a reply till then.
Regards,
John
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In a message dated 06/11/2019 13:50:42 GMT Standard Time, dsdeans@... writes:
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Re: TP 1 SNR this morning - 09:00 + UTC.
Stefano Mina
And so true! the back-up connection provides a greater sensitivity than the standard up link.
Here in Italy the snr at 15.15 utc and returned promptly as described in UNS Eumetsat, at the previous levels of -0.5db less Stephen. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: MSG-1@groups.io <MSG-1@groups.io> Per conto di Douglas Deans via Groups.Io Inviato: mercoledì 6 novembre 2019 14:51 A: MSG-1@groups.io Oggetto: Re: [MSG-1] TP 1 SNR this morning - 09:00 + UTC. On 06/11/2019 10:44, David J Taylor via Groups.Io wrote: Yes John I have also seen a good rise in both TP1 and TP2 signal this====================================================================== I remember seeing the warning of the 2 short outages but did not link it to the large rise in signal this morning. This poor signal issue is even more ridiculous if the back up link gives nearly a dB extra in signal on TP1. However lets wait and see before drawing conclusions. If it does perhaps the prime and back-up should be swapped ! Regards, Douglas.
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Re: eToken failed to work
Hartmut Schulla
Yes!
I use the latest versions, distributed via Eutelsat OTA, of eToken (Safenet) und Tellicast. Regards Hartmut -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: MSG-1@groups.io [mailto:MSG-1@groups.io] Im Auftrag von Heiko Schellhorn Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2019 13:01 An: MSG-1@groups.io Betreff: Re: [MSG-1] eToken failed to work Hi Today in the night etoken stopped to work. This never happened before.Did you update your Tellicast-Software ? If you use Linux and when the Tellicast client software (version 2.14.5) is used in combination with the Safenet drivers this may help you. https://www.eumetsat.int/website/home/News/DAT_4451027.html Best wishes Heiko -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dipl. Inf. Heiko Schellhorn University of Bremen Room: NW1-U 2065 Inst. of Environmental Physics Phone: +49(0)421 218 62091 P.O. Box 33 04 40 Fax: +49(0)421 218 62070 D-28334 Bremen Mail: mailto:schell@physik.uni-bremen.de Germany www: http://www.iup.uni-bremen.de/~schell http://www.sciamachy.de http://www.esa-ghg-cci.org Wer die Wahrheit nicht weiß, der ist bloß ein Dummkopf. Aber wer sie weiß und sie eine Lüge nennt, der ist ein Verbrecher. ( Berthold Brecht )
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Re: eToken failed to work
Heiko Schellhorn
Hi
Today in the night etoken stopped to work. This never happened before.Did you update your Tellicast-Software ? If you use Linux and when the Tellicast client software (version 2.14.5) is used in combination with the Safenet drivers this may help you. https://www.eumetsat.int/website/home/News/DAT_4451027.html Best wishes Heiko -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dipl. Inf. Heiko Schellhorn University of Bremen Room: NW1-U 2065 Inst. of Environmental Physics Phone: +49(0)421 218 62091 P.O. Box 33 04 40 Fax: +49(0)421 218 62070 D-28334 Bremen Mail: mailto:schell@physik.uni-bremen.de Germany www: http://www.iup.uni-bremen.de/~schell http://www.sciamachy.de http://www.esa-ghg-cci.org Wer die Wahrheit nicht weiß, der ist bloß ein Dummkopf. Aber wer sie weiß und sie eine Lüge nennt, der ist ein Verbrecher. ( Berthold Brecht )
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Re: TP 1 SNR this morning - 09:00 + UTC.
Douglas Deans
On 06/11/2019 10:44, David J Taylor via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes John I have also seen a good rise in both TP1 and TP2 signal this====================================================================== I remember seeing the warning of the 2 short outages but did not link it to the large rise in signal this morning. This poor signal issue is even more ridiculous if the back up link gives nearly a dB extra in signal on TP1. However lets wait and see before drawing conclusions. If it does perhaps the prime and back-up should be swapped ! Regards, Douglas.
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Re: TP 1 SNR this morning - 09:00 + UTC.
Cornish Man
Hi My signal has been degrading for the last few months used to get 12.4 DB's on TP1 . Now it's down to 11.2 DB on good days I am using 110cm Dish Jan
On Wednesday, 6 November 2019, 10:44:34 GMT, David J Taylor via Groups.Io <gm8arv@...> wrote:
Yes John I have also seen a good rise in both TP1 and TP2 signal this morning. Needs to hold for a bit longer to verify exact results (and during stable weather) but my rise at the moment seems nearer 0.7 to 0.8 dB SNR up here in Scotland. Frankly not before time. The signal here has been awful for a long time despite my efforts to fine tune the dish which is at an easy head height. Fingers crossed. Regards, Douglas. ============================= This must be from the two planned outages the notified. I guess it's from prime to backup uplink, and then back again later. "EUMETCast ground segment maintenance today, risk of interruption, anno 5292 in UNS" https://uns.eumetsat.int/ Folks not already following EUMETSAT Users on Twitter are missing out: https://twitter.com/eumetsat_users (I think you do, Douglas). Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@... Twitter: @gm8arv
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Re: eToken failed to work
Cornish Man
Hi Had the same thing happened to my eToken, tried different USB ports with the same results. Reinstalled Windows and all the drivers and nothing I couldn't find out what was wrong with it. Luckily had a spare etoken to use
On Wednesday, 6 November 2019, 11:50:48 GMT, Thorsten Miglus <thorsten.miglus@...> wrote:
Hi Hartmut, this is an issue with the USB port. I observed it from time to time. But after installig the newest etoken drive it happend only one time during several months. Cheers, Thorsten On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 11:48 AM, Hartmut Schulla wrote:
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Re: eToken failed to work
Hi Hartmut,
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this is an issue with the USB port. I observed it from time to time. But after installig the newest etoken drive it happend only one time during several months. Cheers, Thorsten
On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 11:48 AM, Hartmut Schulla wrote:
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eToken failed to work
Hartmut Schulla
Hi! Today in the night etoken stopped to work. This never happened before. I restarted the service and the monitor without success. Only a reboot the machine solved the problem:
ERR:2019-11-06 00:40:12.034:eToken transaction timed out. ERR:2019-11-06 00:40:12.034:Critical dongle error (EToken transaction timed out). Restarting child. MSG:2019-11-06 00:40:12.034:tc-cast-client shutting down... [1876] MSG:2019-11-06 00:40:12.035:File transmission 1c359947002c61d0 ended/interrupted: 1 file missing/incomplete MSG:2019-11-06 00:40:12.035:File transmission 1c359a4e002c629b ended/interrupted: filelist missing/incomplete MSG:2019-11-06 00:40:12.035:File transmission 1c359a74002c62bd ended/interrupted: filelist missing/incomplete MSG:2019-11-06 00:40:12.039:Disconnect from announcement channel `TSL-HVS-1', address 224.223.223.223:4711 completed (shutdown) MSG:2019-11-06 00:40:12.039:Disconnect from data channel `E1H-TPG-4', address 224.223.223.12:5013 completed (shutdown) MSG:2019-11-06 00:40:12.040:Disconnect from data channel `E1H-TPG-2', address 224.223.223.3:7015 completed (shutdown) MSG:2019-11-06 00:40:12.040:Disconnect from data channel `E1H-TPG-1', address 224.223.223.3:7013 completed (shutdown) MSG:2019-11-06 00:40:12.040:Disconnect from data channel `E1H-TPG-1', address 224.223.223.3:7013 completed (shutdown) MSG:2019-11-06 00:40:12.040:Missed parts of file `goes15.2019.310.000017_geo.nc.bz2' id 5dc2155a002c61c7 from channel `E1H-TPG-4' MSG:2019-11-06 00:40:12.040:File transmission 1c359a5a002c6291 ended: filelist missing/incomplete MSG:2019-11-06 00:41:00.624:No reaction from child: Initiating child restart MSG:2019-11-06 00:41:00.624:Sending signal to kill old child [1876]. MSG:2019-11-06 00:41:00.624:Starting new child... MSG:2019-11-06 00:41:00.624:Started new child [7364]. MSG:2019-11-06 00:42:00.626:No reaction from child: Initiating child restart MSG:2019-11-06 00:42:00.626:Sending signal to kill old child [7364]. MSG:2019-11-06 00:42:00.626:Starting new child...
Very strange! Regards Hartmut
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Re: TP 1 SNR this morning - 09:00 + UTC.
Yes John I have also seen a good rise in both TP1 and TP2 signal this
morning. Needs to hold for a bit longer to verify exact results (and during stable weather) but my rise at the moment seems nearer 0.7 to 0.8 dB SNR up here in Scotland. Frankly not before time. The signal here has been awful for a long time despite my efforts to fine tune the dish which is at an easy head height. Fingers crossed. Regards, Douglas. ============================= This must be from the two planned outages the notified. I guess it's from prime to backup uplink, and then back again later. "EUMETCast ground segment maintenance today, risk of interruption, anno 5292 in UNS" https://uns.eumetsat.int/ Folks not already following EUMETSAT Users on Twitter are missing out: https://twitter.com/eumetsat_users (I think you do, Douglas). Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk Twitter: @gm8arv
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Re: TP 1 SNR this morning - 09:00 + UTC.
Douglas Deans
On 06/11/2019 10:09, geojohnt via Groups.Io wrote:
All,=============================================================================== Yes John I have also seen a good rise in both TP1 and TP2 signal this morning. Needs to hold for a bit longer to verify exact results (and during stable weather) but my rise at the moment seems nearer 0.7 to 0.8 dB SNR up here in Scotland. Frankly not before time. The signal here has been awful for a long time despite my efforts to fine tune the dish which is at an easy head height. Fingers crossed. Regards, Douglas.
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TP 1 SNR this morning - 09:00 + UTC.
geojohnt@...
All,
I hardly dare to say this but under clear sky conditions my TP 1 SNR on the SR1 receiver is up 0.3 - 0.4 dB from 'what it should be' at this time of day.
The SNR is also rock steady.
Power is, as always, steady at - 25 dBm.
A couple of times so far this morning my SNR went to 13.5 for short periods.
Rather a long way from the good old days 18 months ago when my SNR was 14.2/3 dB.
However, a step in the right direction if someone is tweaking the uplink and/or satellite attitude/parameters.
Regards,
John Tellick.
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Re: New EUTELSAT satellite....
geojohnt@...
Hello Thomas,
Er well, for me it's a bit lost in 'the mists of time.'
We started off on Hotbird 13 degrees east with DVB-S.
Then if I recall correctly moved to E9B and then E10A.
The move to E10A may well have been when DVB-S2 was adopted?
Anyway, there were 'reasons' for moving satellite's, possibly commercial.
E10A Europe wide beam max power contour 48 dBm.
E9B Europe wide beam max power contour 51 dBm.
E21B - EUMETCast backup satellite Europe wide beam max power contour 47 dBm.
E9B has far less Ku-band transponders available than E10A as it's transmissions only starts at 11.727 GHz to 12.476 GHz.
Where E10A has the full Ku-band transmissions from 10.732 GHz to 12.680 GHz.
Best wishes,
John
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In a message dated 04/11/2019 20:56:57 GMT Standard Time, privat@... writes:
maybe a stupid question, but i missed the reason for the switch from 9B to 10A.
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Re: New EUTELSAT satellite....
Thomas Scheelen
David and John,
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maybe a stupid question, but i missed the reason for the switch from 9B to 10A. Since 9B is still there with strength beans i wonder why eumetsat didn't stay at 9B. Beste Grüße Am 4. November 2019 18:30:04 schrieb "David J Taylor via Groups.Io" <gm8arv=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io>:
David,
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Re: New EUTELSAT satellite....
geojohnt@...
David,
Ah, yes, I saw the info about the mix of transponders but missed the 'end of life' for 10A.
Fingers crossed, a direct transfer - and/or capacity on 9B instead of Eutelsat 21B.
Regards,
John.
Oh, yes, well, Lewis Hamilton might have his 9th by 2023?
One more to go to be level with Michael Schumacher.
In a message dated 04/11/2019 17:29:45 GMT Standard Time, gm8arv@... writes:
The article says:
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Re: New EUTELSAT satellite....
David,
I've had a look around but can't find any technical spec for this satellite yet such as power contours, just press releases. I would imagine it would have a bit more uumph than 10 A being a new satellite. However, new satellite, more uumph, more money for a transponder? With EUMETSAT already having capacity on Eutelsat 21B I suspect they wouldn't take out new capacity on 10B. Depends I guess on whether 10A continues in service? Regards, John. ========================================= The article says: "EUTELSAT 10B satellite will carry two widebeam C- and Ku-band payloads, totalling 32 36 MHz equivalent transponders1 to ensure continuity of the missions of the EUTELSAT 10A satellite, whose operational life is scheduled to end in 2023." Lewis might have his 8 World Championships by then! Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk Twitter: @gm8arv
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Re: New EUTELSAT satellite....
geojohnt@...
David,
I've had a look around but can't find any technical spec for this satellite yet such as power contours, just press releases.
I would imagine it would have a bit more uumph than 10 A being a new satellite.
However, new satellite, more uumph, more money for a transponder?
With EUMETSAT already having capacity on Eutelsat 21B I suspect they wouldn't take out new capacity on 10B.
Depends I guess on whether 10A continues in service?
Regards,
John.
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In a message dated 04/11/2019 10:10:26 GMT Standard Time, gm8arv@... writes:
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Re: New EUTELSAT satellite....
Ferdinand Valk
Wouldn't it be nice....
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