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Re: PuTTY telnet not opening.

David J Taylor
 

David,

Thanks for you comments.

I hadn't changed the two leads connecting the SR1 to the PC - Control to a USB port and Management to
an Ethernet port.
Same ports for several years.

I clicked 'something' in the PuTTY programme settings which has caused the problem.

I have 2 PuTTY desktop icons - PuTTY SR1 telnet and PuTTY SR1 USB.
If I recall correctly the USB one opened as a black screen and you had to type in a 0 (zero)
or 0 enter and the programme started.

That I have tried configuring it for COM1 - it opens with a black screen - type in a 0 (0 appears) but nothing
happens. press enter, nothing happens except green curser moves down.
You can type telnet, which appears, but nothing happens.
Press enter and the green cursed moves down a line.

The telnet short cut always opened as a black scree with telnet and password below.
The password being telnet.

Both worked OK (IIRC) but the USB one ceased ages ago meaning I used the telnet one.


Looking at the EUMETSAT SR1 setup guide again - 'higher up' - I think I've found the answer?

You will see from the attached Device Manager image that DM does not include:
Silicon Labs CP210x USB to UART Bridge (COM3) in the Ports list.

If I recall correctly it did many years ago.
So where is it?


And is that the problem?

Regards,
John.
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John,

It's been so long since I used the serial that I can't be sure, but I think that the port will only show it the device is plugged in and working. There may also be an issue with drivers - you may need to re-install the original Silicon Labs drivers you had. Perhaps on the disk which came with the Ayecka?

But if the Telnet works, why not use it?

Cheers,
David
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Re: PuTTY telnet not opening.

geojohnt@...
 

David,

I forgot to mention I also did a hot reboot of the SR1 this morning.

No, the original 'telnet PuTTY' programme isn't working (along with the 'other' long defunct 'USB version') hence my problem.

When configured for COM3 - which it always was - PuTTY telnet won't open with the warning:
X Unable to connect to COM3. Unable to open serial port.

I'll go back an read the EUMETSAT SR1 EUMETCast setup guide from the beginning.
As I said, I'm pretty sure it's the disappearance of Silicon Labs.

Yes, it is such a long time ago, I too can't remember how I set it up.

Regards,
John.

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In a message dated 07/10/2019 12:22:14 GMT Standard Time, gm8arv@... writes:

It's been so long since I used the serial that I can't be sure, but I think
that the port will only show it the device is plugged in and working.  There
may also be an issue with drivers - you may need to re-install the original
Silicon Labs drivers you had.  Perhaps on the disk which came with the
Ayecka?

But if the Telnet works, why not use it?

Re: PuTTY telnet not opening.

David J Taylor
 

David,

I forgot to mention I also did a hot reboot of the SR1 this morning.

No, the original 'telnet PuTTY' programme isn't working (along with the 'other' long defunct 'USB version') hence my problem.

When configured for COM3 - which it always was - PuTTY telnet won't open with the warning:
X Unable to connect to COM3. Unable to open serial port.


I'll go back an read the EUMETSAT SR1 EUMETCast setup guide from the beginning.
As I said, I'm pretty sure it's the disappearance of Silicon Labs.

Yes, it is such a long time ago, I too can't remember how I set it up.

Regards,
John.
=======================================

John,

You mentioned CP210x. Please see:

https://www.silabs.com/products/development-tools/software/usb-to-uart-bridge-vcp-drivers

There is also a telnet program in the Java SR1 console.

Cheers,
David
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Re: PuTTY telnet not opening.

geojohnt@...
 

David,

Thanks for that.
I'm one step ahead of you.

The EUMETSAT SR1 EUMETCast Setup Guide shows that the Silicon Labs CP210x in the Device Manager Ports tree.
My Device Manager used to show it also - and it appears to govern COM3?

I deleted the old Silicon Labs software and downloaded a fresh copy.
I used the installer .exe and a Wizard appeared and said the software had been installed.
However, it hasn't appeared in the Ports tree and the programme still doesn't open.

So I've contacted Ops.

Regards,
John.

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In a message dated 07/10/2019 17:15:38 GMT Standard Time, gm8arv@... writes:

You mentioned CP210x.  Please see:

  https://www.silabs.com/products/development-tools/software/usb-to-uart-bridge-vcp-drivers

There is also a telnet program in the Java SR1 console.

Re: PuTTY telnet not opening.

geojohnt@...
 

David,

😁

Doh!
I didn't know that - and it works!

Thanks.

Regards,
John.

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In a message dated 07/10/2019 17:15:38 GMT Standard Time, gm8arv@... writes:

There is also a telnet program in the Java SR1 console.

Re: PuTTY telnet not opening.

David J Taylor
 

David,

????

Doh!
I didn't know that - and it works!

Thanks.

Regards,
John.
=================================

Telnet in the console - one on Mr Einstein's hidden goodies!

But now you must get the other methods working as well!

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Re: PuTTY telnet not opening.

Mario Brustia
 

Ho to all, time ago i have had the same problem.
I had solved resolder (hot air) the uart chip in sr1.
Also,via putty,sr1 can be controlled via Lan (management port).

Sorry but, with Smart phone the italian autocorrector is terrificant with english words!!!




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Oggetto: Re: [MSG-1] PuTTY telnet not opening.

David,
 
????
 
Doh!
I didn't know that - and it works!
 
Thanks.
 
Regards,
John.
=================================
 
Telnet in the console - one on Mr Einstein's hidden goodies!
 
But now you must get the other methods working as well!
 
Cheers,
David
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newbie's informations requests

Federico Visintini
 

Hi everybody! I'm newbie here. I've just requested licenses to Eumetsat and I'm waiting for the key to start this new experience!

I've have some questions about the hardware to get for the data reception (until a few years ago this was more simple).

I'd like to build a transportable receiving station, with a INTEL NUC inside an IP67 case... and here follow that my questions:

- is a 100 cm or bigger dish needed or can i use a smaller one (i.e. 60-80 cms)? which kind of illuminator is needed? an universal one?

- I've found on EUMETSAT website a list of reccomended devices (obviously I need an external one for my purposes..). Has anybody tried other models that works fine with a lower cost?

Thanks for your tips!

No Channels

Cornish Man
 

Hi

I finally managed to get the "Missing Key" message to disapear.
But now I am not getting any channels on Basic, NVS1 and HVS2 (As shown in the attached images)

I also get a popup when I plug in thr eToken with I didn't have before
I can't remember my old password to put a new one in

I tried another eToken and have the same problem
Any help would be grateful

Jan

Re: newbie's informations requests

Cornish Man
 

Hi and welcome

At the moment I am using a 110cm dish,, but it's recomended to use a 120cm (or bigger if you can get one)

And I am using a TBS 6903 card to receive

On the EUmetcast website there's a list of devices that you will need to connect

Here's is the link, scroll down till you see the device tab 

https://www.eumetsat.int/website/home/Data/DataDelivery/EUMETCast/ReceptionStationSetup/index.html

Jan

Re: newbie's informations requests

David J Taylor
 

Hi everybody! I'm newbie here. I've just requested licenses to Eumetsat and I'm waiting for the key to start this new experience!

I've have some questions about the hardware to get for the data reception (until a few years ago this was more simple).

I'd like to build a transportable receiving station, with a INTEL NUC inside an IP67 case... and here follow that my questions:



- is a 100 cm or bigger dish needed or can i use a smaller one (i.e. 60-80 cms)? which kind of illuminator is needed? an universal one?

- I've found on EUMETSAT website a list of reccomended devices (obviously I need an external one for my purposes..). Has anybody tried other models that works fine with a lower cost?

Thanks for your tips!
=======================================

Federico,

Welcome to the group!

Within Europe an 80-100 cm dish should do, particularly if you only need the Basic Service. If you want the High Volume Service (HVS-1 or HVS-2) think towards the 100 cm. You can see what people are using here:

https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-europe_link_margin.php

Ideally the Link Margin should be at least 4 dB to allow for times when the weather reduces the signal. If you are right in the centre of the EUTELSAT 10A footprint (Ku-band, wide beam):

https://www.eutelsat.com/en/satellites/eutelsat-10-east.html

A standard "Satellite TV LNB" will usually suffice, but ideally you want one "for HDTV" (i.e. a lower phase noise, possibly a "phase locked" one), and if you have a long cable, a high output one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=inverto+lnb+black&i=electronics&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

Having a dual- or quad-output allows you to add more receivers at a later date.

For a low-cost receiver, look for a second-hand TBS 5925.

Ciao,
David
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New member questions

Frank Kosta
 


Dear All

My name is Costa, I am Portuguese but currently living in Cambridge, UK.
Recently I made an impulse purchase and now I am a happy owner of (nearly new) Ayecka SR-1.
It came with a EUMETCast Client Software v5.5 CD but no USB dongle.
I already made the EO Portal registration and the next step is to select the services I want/need.
When I looked at the options I admit I was overwhelmed and that is why I need your help.
What would be the basic "package"? I presume I can upgrade later, if required, right? 
By the way, my interest is purely amateur. I used to have a Grundig MST-100 to receive Meteosat 7 and missed those days...
On the hardware side, what LNB do you recommend? I have read elsewhere the Inverto Ultra are the best. Aren't PLL LNB's better? I have a few laying around (from Es'HailSat 2 reception testing).
I will, hopefully this weekend, check the current firmware and upgrade as required. Any advice/tips are most welcome.
Thank you in advance.
Have a great weekend.
Regards,
FCosta

Re: New member questions

David J Taylor
 

Dear All

My name is Costa, I am Portuguese but currently living in Cambridge, UK.
Recently I made an impulse purchase and now I am a happy owner of (nearly new) Ayecka SR-1.
It came with a EUMETCast Client Software v5.5 CD but no USB dongle.
I already made the EO Portal registration and the next step is to select the services I want/need.
When I looked at the options I admit I was overwhelmed and that is why I need your help.
What would be the basic "package"? I presume I can upgrade later, if required, right?
By the way, my interest is purely amateur. I used to have a Grundig MST-100 to receive Meteosat 7 and missed those days...
On the hardware side, what LNB do you recommend? I have read elsewhere the Inverto Ultra are the best. Aren't PLL LNB's better? I have a few laying around (from Es'HailSat 2 reception testing).
I will, hopefully this weekend, check the current firmware and upgrade as required. Any advice/tips are most welcome.
Thank you in advance.
Have a great weekend.
Regards,
FCosta
=====================================

Costa,

Welcome to the group!

Very briefly....

Data services, start with the four geostationary satellites on the Basic Service:

Meteosat Services

0?? Service
0?? SEVIRI Level 1.5 Image Data
1/4-hourly data transmissions **
1/2-hourly data transmissions **
1-hourly data transmissions
0?? Meteosat Meteorological Products
All other Meteorological Products
9.5?? E Rapid Scanning Service
RSS SEVIRI Level 1.5 Image Data ** ??
RSS Meteosat Meteorological Products
41.5?? E Indian Ocean Data Coverage
IODC SEVIRI Level 1.5 Image Data
1/4-hourly data transmissions **
1/2-hourly data transmissions **
1-hourly data transmissions
IODC Meteosat Meteorological Products
All other Meteorological Products

Yes, you can upgrade at any time.

A PLL LNB may be better (less drift and perhaps lower phase noise).

You may find some useful information on my Web site, although some does date back to early testing.

Enjoy Cambridge!

Cheers,
David
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Re: New member questions

Frank Kosta
 


HI David

Thank you very much for your reply and valuable information.
I will proceed per your recommendation.
Thank you also for your very informative web site.
I already spent long time browsing it.
Regards
FCosta (M0HOJ/CT1EAT)

David J Taylor via Groups.Io <gm8arv=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> escreveu no dia sexta, 11/10/2019 à(s) 16:38:

Dear All

My name is Costa, I am Portuguese but currently living in Cambridge, UK.
Recently I made an impulse purchase and now I am a happy owner of (nearly
new) Ayecka SR-1.
It came with a EUMETCast Client Software v5.5 CD but no USB dongle.
I already made the EO Portal registration and the next step is to select the
services I want/need.
When I looked at the options I admit I was overwhelmed and that is why I
need your help.
What would be the basic "package"? I presume I can upgrade later, if
required, right?
By the way, my interest is purely amateur. I used to have a Grundig MST-100
to receive Meteosat 7 and missed those days...
On the hardware side, what LNB do you recommend? I have read elsewhere the
Inverto Ultra are the best. Aren't PLL LNB's better? I have a few laying
around (from Es'HailSat 2 reception testing).
I will, hopefully this weekend, check the current firmware and upgrade as
required. Any advice/tips are most welcome.
Thank you in advance.
Have a great weekend.
Regards,
FCosta
=====================================

Costa,

Welcome to the group!

Very briefly....

Data services, start with the four geostationary satellites on the Basic
Service:

Meteosat Services

    0?? Service
        0?? SEVIRI Level 1.5 Image Data
            1/4-hourly data transmissions **
            1/2-hourly data transmissions **
            1-hourly data transmissions
        0?? Meteosat Meteorological Products
            All other Meteorological Products
    9.5?? E Rapid Scanning Service
        RSS SEVIRI Level 1.5 Image Data ** ??
        RSS Meteosat Meteorological Products
    41.5?? E Indian Ocean Data Coverage
        IODC SEVIRI Level 1.5 Image Data
            1/4-hourly data transmissions **
            1/2-hourly data transmissions **
            1-hourly data transmissions
        IODC Meteosat Meteorological Products
            All other Meteorological Products

Yes, you can upgrade at any time.

A PLL LNB may be better (less drift and perhaps lower phase noise).

You may find some useful information on my Web site, although some does date
back to early testing.

Enjoy Cambridge!

Cheers,
David
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Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@...
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EUMETSAT EUM TD 15 document.

geojohnt@...
 

All,

I haven't read this document for ages and so downloaded the 'latest' version.
It is now very comprehensive and contains quite a lot of information I hadn't seen.
The latest version is dated 5 July 2019 and has several updates/additions itemised in the update table at the beginning of the document.

Did you know for instance that a backup satellite for the EUMETCast Ku-band service is already 'ready' in case of the failure of 10A?

A section in TD 15 details how to set up a dual feed setup for 10A and 21B.

The document is well worth a read if you haven't read it for quite some time now.

Regards,
John Tellick.

Re: EUMETSAT EUM TD 15 document.

David J Taylor
 

All,


I haven't read this document for ages and so downloaded the 'latest' version.
It is now very comprehensive and contains quite a lot of information I hadn't seen.
The latest version is dated 5 July 2019 and has several updates/additions itemised in the update table at the beginning of the document.

Did you know for instance that a backup satellite for the EUMETCast Ku-band service is already 'ready' in case of the failure of 10A?

A section in TD 15 details how to set up a dual feed setup for 10A and 21B.

The document is well worth a read if you haven't read it for quite some time now.

Regards,
John Tellick.
===================================

Thanks for that, John. I hadn't seen the current version either. As you say, well worth a read. It's a PDF file at:

https://www.eumetsat.int/website/wcm/idc/idcplg?IdcService=GET_FILE&dDocName=PDF_TD15_EUMETCAST&RevisionSelectionMethod=LatestReleased&Rendition=Web

Cheers,
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Defunct Groups

Ian Deans
 

Re the recent mails with regard to a number of yahoo groups. my guess is that the groups in question ( with the exception of the old MSG-1 Yahoo group ) have probably not been used for many months if not years and in my opinion should be discontinued along with the old MSG-1 group.

The occasional mails that might be posted under these groups, could be posted on the MSG-1 io group and that is probably being done at the moment anyway.

Regards
Ian.

Re: Defunct Groups

Douglas Deans
 

On 16/10/2019 19:39, Ian Deans via Groups.Io wrote:
Re the recent mails with regard to a number of yahoo groups. my guess is that the groups in question ( with the exception of the old MSG-1 Yahoo group ) have probably not been used for many months if not years and in my opinion should be discontinued along with the old MSG-1 group.
The occasional mails that might be posted under these groups, could be posted on the MSG-1 io group and that is probably being done at the moment anyway.
Regards
Ian.
====================================================================

I agree but I find now that I get a much better response to satellite issues and images posting on twitter than I do with any of the groups. World wide audience and speed and simplicity seem to be the reason.
However I do accept there are a few limitations and posting my weekly weather satellite report might just break the character number requirement !
I see dozens of Meteor images and technical conversations on twitter every day and I guess if I followed the right people I could do the same with many other datas. The point is you decide your area of interest.

Regards,
Douglas.

Re: Defunct Groups

David J Taylor
 

Re the recent mails with regard to a number of yahoo groups. my guess is
that the groups in question ( with the exception of the old MSG-1 Yahoo
group ) have probably not been used for many months if not years and in
my opinion should be discontinued along with the old MSG-1 group.

The occasional mails that might be posted under these groups, could be
posted on the MSG-1 io group and that is probably being done at the
moment anyway.

Regards
Ian.
============================

Yes, those old groups haven't been used for some time, although a few folk seem to have crept out of the woodwork! I anticipate that Yahoo will close groups entirely, and they're deleting all of the non-email content by the end of the year as you may know, so effectively that was my final message to those obsolete groups. I'll simply let Yahoo delete them as and when.

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David
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Re: Defunct Groups

geojohnt@...
 

Ian,

I agree.
Actually, I'd forgotten about 'all these other' groups which we used to post on.
MSG-1 seems to have become a bit of a 'cover all' - apart from GEO-Subs for weather satellite related information.

Regards,
John.

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In a message dated 16/10/2019 19:39:49 GMT Standard Time, iandeans142@... writes:

Re the recent mails with regard to a number of yahoo groups. my guess is
that the groups in question ( with the exception of the old MSG-1 Yahoo
group ) have probably not been used for many months if not years and in
my opinion should be discontinued along with the old MSG-1 group.

The occasional mails that might be posted under these groups, could be
posted on the MSG-1 io group and that is probably being done at the
moment anyway.