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IODC

Ian Deans
 

Good to see the IODC service up and running again, although Monday before Met. products are resumed.

Regards
Ian.

Re: Starting from scratch

James Brown
 

On 27/07/2019 06:11, David J Taylor via Groups.Io wrote:
Thank you David,

I appreciate the tremendous meticulous detail that you have included.

Unfortunately I seem to have run into a brick wall with MRTG - I have
the SNMP running - security tab I have tried either with Arne's
suggestion of the IP address or the 'anyone' and when I run SNMP
informant I always get the message that SNMP security is currently not
configured on this machine and running cfgmaker doesn't extract
information for the cfg file.

I thought it was bad enough working through the 30 pages of notes for
HMRC Probate forms, but this has got me beat! And I read from your notes
that a couple of progs will always have to be uninstalled or restarted
following the monthly updates, so not sure if I can cope!

All the best,

James
==============================

James,

As I've mentioned before, often my Web pages are simply my own notes, with passwords removed!  What I didn't mention, but now recall, is that sometimes the SNMP community isn't defined (OK, that's another security point), and that stops SNMP working.  I've added that to my notes and added a screenshot:

 https://www.satsignal.eu/software/Win-10-notes.html#snmp

 https://www.satsignal.eu/software/screenshots/Windows-1903-SNMP%20service%20settings.png

Hope that helps!

The programs which need to be re-installed over updates are just the major version updates, which are effectively new installs. Not the monthly updates.

Whilst CFGmaker is a useful starter, I do recommend using the IP address of the PC (if it's fixed by address reservation in the router) rather than the interface number which CFGmaker uses. With major upgrades and other changes the interface number can, and does, change.  A pain, I know!

If anyone in Europe would like to help with EUMETCast monitoring - you would be very welcome:

 https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-europe_link_margin.php
 https://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/dvb-s2/sr1-mrtg.html

It will help the longer-term monitoring of your own system to watch for any gradual degradation.

Cheers,
David
Success!! Thank you David - the initial cfg file is as one might expect very long! It reports 41 interfaces but I will need to do some serious editing! I will also need to sift through more of your guidance pages David!

It's been so long since I set up MRTG!!

Cheers,

James

Re: MPE MSG Animator

dg1gdw@...
 

David,

thank you for that!

73,
Detlef
DG1GDW

Re: Starting from scratch

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Thank you David,

I appreciate the tremendous meticulous detail that you have included.

Unfortunately I seem to have run into a brick wall with MRTG - I have
the SNMP running - security tab I have tried either with Arne's
suggestion of the IP address or the 'anyone' and when I run SNMP
informant I always get the message that SNMP security is currently not
configured on this machine and running cfgmaker doesn't extract
information for the cfg file.

I thought it was bad enough working through the 30 pages of notes for
HMRC Probate forms, but this has got me beat! And I read from your notes
that a couple of progs will always have to be uninstalled or restarted
following the monthly updates, so not sure if I can cope!

All the best,

James
==============================

James,

As I've mentioned before, often my Web pages are simply my own notes, with passwords removed! What I didn't mention, but now recall, is that sometimes the SNMP community isn't defined (OK, that's another security point), and that stops SNMP working. I've added that to my notes and added a screenshot:

https://www.satsignal.eu/software/Win-10-notes.html#snmp

https://www.satsignal.eu/software/screenshots/Windows-1903-SNMP%20service%20settings.png

Hope that helps!

The programs which need to be re-installed over updates are just the major version updates, which are effectively new installs. Not the monthly updates.

Whilst CFGmaker is a useful starter, I do recommend using the IP address of the PC (if it's fixed by address reservation in the router) rather than the interface number which CFGmaker uses. With major upgrades and other changes the interface number can, and does, change. A pain, I know!

If anyone in Europe would like to help with EUMETCast monitoring - you would be very welcome:

https://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-europe_link_margin.php
https://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/dvb-s2/sr1-mrtg.html

It will help the longer-term monitoring of your own system to watch for any gradual degradation.

Cheers,
David
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Re: Starting from scratch

James Brown
 

On 26/07/2019 19:49, David J Taylor via Groups.Io wrote:
James,

Incidentally, that problem, and some other issues including TelliCast ones, are mentioned in my Windows-10 notes:

 https://www.satsignal.eu/software/Win-10-notes.html

which might be worth a glance.

Cheers,
David
Thank you David,

I appreciate the tremendous meticulous detail that you have included.

Unfortunately I seem to have run into a brick wall with MRTG - I have the SNMP running - security tab I have tried either with Arne's suggestion of the IP address or the 'anyone' and when I run SNMP informant I always get the message that SNMP security is currently not configured on this machine and running cfgmaker doesn't extract information for the cfg file.

I thought it was bad enough working through the 30 pages of notes for HMRC Probate forms, but this has got me beat! And I read from your notes that a couple of progs will always have to be uninstalled or restarted following the monthly updates, so not sure if I can cope!

All the best,

James

Re: Starting from scratch

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

James,

Incidentally, that problem, and some other issues including TelliCast ones, are mentioned in my Windows-10 notes:

https://www.satsignal.eu/software/Win-10-notes.html

which might be worth a glance.

Cheers,
David
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Re: MPE MSG Animator

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David,

SAF data work fine, but now the MPE RSS data are no more possible to display in MSG Animator.

73,
Detlef
DG1GDW
==================================

Fixed in the beta .307 just uploaded.

73,
David GM8ARV
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Re: MPE MSG Animator

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David,

SAF data work fine, but now the MPE RSS data are no more possible to display in MSG Animator.

73,
Detlef
DG1GDW
================================

Yes, I've found the fault and can fix it in the next update, likely tomorrow but possibly earlier. In the meantime just re-install the working version.

73,
David GM8ARV
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Re: Starting from scratch

James Brown
 

Thanks both for the alternatives. Hoping there are no special permissions that need to be set. 

James

JB out and about

On 26 Jul 2019, at 16:12, Thorsten Miglus <thorsten.miglus@...> wrote:

James,

With Windows 10 1903:
you can go to Apps & Features.
Then select Optional Features
And there it is...

Cheers,
Thorsten


<SNMP0.jpg>


<SNMP1.jpg>


On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 04:23 PM, James Brown wrote:
Interesting - I saw a method using powershell and although it entailed a lot of typing it did the trick - so I pass on the tip in case anyone else is starting from scratch.

https://windowsreport.com/restore-missing-snmp-windows-10/

Cheers,
James

Re: Starting from scratch

Thorsten Miglus
 

James,

With Windows 10 1903:
you can go to Apps & Features.
Then select Optional Features
And there it is...

Cheers,
Thorsten








On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 04:23 PM, James Brown wrote:
Interesting - I saw a method using powershell and although it entailed a lot of typing it did the trick - so I pass on the tip in case anyone else is starting from scratch.

https://windowsreport.com/restore-missing-snmp-windows-10/

Cheers,
James

Re: Starting from scratch

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

Good day all,

Following the demise of my main receiving computer I am starting from scratch to rebuild a working station.

AFter resolving an e-token issue the next problem needs me to ask - in the latest WIndows 10 SNMP is not available in 'Turn Windows features on or off' or as a service. I am wondering what the alternative might be as I need to be able to install monitoring progs again.

Thanks in advance for your help,

James
==============================

James,

In 1903, at least, Settings, Apps & Features, Optional Features.

Cheers,
David
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Re: Starting from scratch

James Brown
 

Interesting - I saw a method using powershell and although it entailed a lot of typing it did the trick - so I pass on the tip in case anyone else is starting from scratch.

https://windowsreport.com/restore-missing-snmp-windows-10/

Cheers,
James

On 26/07/2019 15:02, James Brown wrote:
Good day all,

Following the demise of my main receiving computer I am starting from scratch to rebuild a working station.

AFter resolving an e-token issue the next problem needs me to ask - in the latest WIndows 10 SNMP is not available in 'Turn Windows features on or off' or as a service. I am wondering what the alternative might be as I need to be able to install monitoring progs again.

Thanks in advance for your help,

James



Re: Starting from scratch

James Brown
 

Good day all,

Following the demise of my main receiving computer I am starting from scratch to rebuild a working station.

AFter resolving an e-token issue the next problem needs me to ask - in the latest WIndows 10 SNMP is not available in 'Turn Windows features on or off' or as a service. I am wondering what the alternative might be as I need to be able to install monitoring progs again.

Thanks in advance for your help,

James

Re: MPE MSG Animator

dg1gdw@...
 

David,

SAF data work fine, but now the MPE RSS data are no more possible to display in MSG Animator.

73,
Detlef
DG1GDW

Re: FY-2H and FY-2G

geojohnt@...
 

David,

Re: my non reception of FY geo data in MDM.

You are right, thanks.

I had commented this channel out - with quite a few others - during those early days of using TC V2.14.4, trying to get rid of 'accumulating' non required data.

Strange(?) that the Basic Service Transponder 1: Current multicast channels and PIDs table lists:

E1B-TPG-1 500 224.223.222.27 5558 Third Party GEO Europe

Where one would expect to find FY?

As Data Channel-12 says:

EUMETSAT Data Channel 12 301 224.223.222.35 650 Multi-service misc Europe/Africa

And it's only:

  MAX MULTICAST DATA RATE (KBPS)

 650.

Anyway, problem solved, thanks.

Regards,
John.

+++++++++++++++++++


In a message dated 25/07/2019 20:06:19 GMT Standard Time, gm8arv@... writes:

I thought I was receiving these services  - but I seldom have used them.

I'm getting GOMS 2 but no FY.

I've just updated my MDM to V.3.1.13.1306 2019-Jul-17 but still no FY data.

Er, ???

Regards,
John Tellick.
===============================

John,

IIRC, it should go to "EUMETSAT_Data_Channel 12" unless it has changed since
early June.

Re: suitable LNB for Eutelsat 10A Eumetcast reception

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

David,
Thank you very much for your very useful detailed explications.
No luck with Himawari so far !
Tellique does show that I get HVS-1 data. However, when referring to E1H-TPG-2 data - ie. where the Himawari data is supposed to come in - Tellique shows "connecting" and "packet NAKs allowed but disabled".
Thankfully I continue to enjoy Goes 17 E1H-TPG-3 data despite my being "stuck" at a "maximum" signal strength of around 11dB.
Is there a way to enable those allowed but disabled Himawari NAKs ?
I look forward to your advice.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland
=====================================

Never seen that error, Roland. If you are running the latest TelliCast, contact Ops at EUMETSAT. Otherwise upgrade TelliCast.

Cheers,
David
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Re: suitable LNB for Eutelsat 10A Eumetcast reception

fly.fechter@t-online.de
 

David,
Thank you very much for your very useful detailed explications.
No luck with Himawari so far !
Tellique does show that I get HVS-1 data. However, when referring to E1H-TPG-2 data - ie. where the Himawari data is supposed to come in - Tellique shows "connecting" and "packet NAKs allowed but disabled".
Thankfully I continue to enjoy Goes 17 E1H-TPG-3 data despite my being "stuck" at a "maximum" signal strength of around 11dB.
Is there a way to enable those allowed but disabled Himawari NAKs ?
I look forward to your advice.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland




-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [MSG-1] suitable LNB for Eutelsat 10A Eumetcast reception
Datum: 2019-07-24T15:49:54+0200
Von: "David J Taylor via Groups.Io" <gm8arv=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io>
An: "MSG-1@groups.io" <MSG-1@groups.io>

Hello,
My 125cm Gibertini dish is located near Erlangen, Germany, i.e. Northern
Bavaria.
It is on my balcony.
The signal I get from Eutelsat 9A is quite strong in the 15dB region whereas
with Eutelsat 10A I am struggling to get set in the 11db region.
I have already spent many hours using various LNBs in order to push the
Eumetcast signal strength to at least 13db which I think
is considered necessary as a minimum.
HVS-1 reception at around 11dB does happen with the Goes 17 ABI manager
Himawari reception is not possible.
As some of you have told me that with my 1.25m dish a 13dB signal strength
should be easily obtainable I wonder
to which locations this applies. Probably those happy users are way North
of me, UK, Scandinavia etc.
It would be helpful for my final efforts to know which LNB brands they use
together with their 1m and 1.25m dishes
as well as their exact locations.
Perhaps there is a "THE" LNB on the market likely to satisfy also my
needs.
I look forward to your news.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Roland
================================

Roland,

If you are getting GOES-17 you can get Himawari - they are on the same
transponder. Make sure that:

1 - You have channel E1H-TPG-3 enabled, pointing its output to your
received\EUMETSAT_Data_Channel_4 directory.

2 - You have the most recent MSG Data Manager (3.1.12 or later)

3 - In Channel Selection, FSD, Himawari you have your channels selected.

The location of your dish may not be the best. The sky has a very low
temperature at radio frequencies, basically because you have a clear path to
space for most of the time. Fog, cloud, ice-crystals etc. will make the
temperature as seen by the antenna higher, and higher temperatures can mean
more noise, and attenuation will result in less signal, making the SNR
worse.

It is particularly important when we are dealing with weaker signals (such
as our EUTELSAT 10A) that the antenna can "see" as little as possible at
ground temperatures. The LNB should not "see" anything outside the dish,
but in practice it will, so behind the dish should not be "warm", nor should
anything in front of the dish. Imagine a cone starting with the diameter of
the dish, and diverging outwards slightly as it points towards the
satellite. Any trees? Leaves? Cut them down!

You might even be better with a slightly smaller dish if it can be better
located.

Cheers,
David
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Re: FY-2H and FY-2G

David J Taylor GM8ARV 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺
 

I thought I was receiving these services - but I seldom have used them.


However, I see, Ferdinand having said, regarding the loss of IODC, that he can use these satellites, that I am not actually receiving data.
I've checked my EUMETCast account and FY is ticked and E1H-TPG-1 (presumably FY geo data?) is going into the 'combined streams' folder feeding my MDM MSG-4.

I'm getting GOMS 2 but no FY.

I've just updated my MDM to V.3.1.13.1306 2019-Jul-17 but still no FY data.

Er, ???

Regards,
John Tellick.
===============================

John,

IIRC, it should go to "EUMETSAT_Data_Channel 12" unless it has changed since early June.

Cheers,
David
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FY-2H and FY-2G

geojohnt@...
 


I thought I was receiving these services  - but I seldom have used them.

However, I see, Ferdinand having said, regarding the loss of IODC, that he can use these satellites, that I am not actually receiving data.
I've checked my EUMETCast account and FY is ticked and E1H-TPG-1 (presumably FY geo data?) is going into the 'combined streams' folder feeding my MDM MSG-4.

I'm getting GOMS 2 but no FY.

I've just updated my MDM to V.3.1.13.1306 2019-Jul-17 but still no FY data.

Er, ???

Regards,
John Tellick.

Re: suitable LNB for Eutelsat 10A Eumetcast reception

Christian Peters
 

John,

yes, definitely we have to wait for cooler weather!
There are also some trees which make me nervous but I think I have a couple of years before I will get a problem with them...! ;-)

Regards,

Christian

Am 25.07.19 um 15:22 schrieb geojohnt via Groups.Io:

Christian,

My days of 14.3 dB signal SNR with my 1 m dish ended middle of last year.
I'm not an expert but I think that the more data that is disseminated by TP 1 widens the transponder 'width' and thereby the transmitted power is then spread across a much wider bandwidth which reduces the 'received signal level.'
Compared to a previously much narrower transmitted bandwidth channel in the aerly days of HVS-1.

Mind you I'm getting more and more sure that I've got 'increasing fir tree girth' shadowing of my dish.
Trying a new location - difficult - will have to wait for cooler weather.

Regards,
John.

++++++++++++++++++++


In a message dated 25/07/2019 12:09:52 GMT Standard Time, hctpeters@... writes:

I think it was worsened if they switch on TP-2.
But maybe it's time again to do a another tweaking of the antenna/LNB position.
I use two USB TBS 5925 running Linux, cable length is ~5m!