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Re: MapToGeo

David J Taylor
 

David,

Try as I might I can't get the proper remap out of MapToGeo for Goes-15. The
generated background-msg1-goes_w.bmp is totally off.
Just to make sure:
- using v2.0.5.54, registered version
- opening plate carree full world image
- Remap to MSG1-GOES_W
- Save to GeoSatSignal directory as background-msg1-goes_w.bmp (Old version
previously deleted)

Unless my seniority plays tricks on me, the remap is centered far west of
the intended location.
I also do not see a change in the non-WMO mapping for Goes-17.

I really hope it is something simple.

Cheers,
Ferdinand
===================================

I'll take a look Ferdinand, but I'm busy for much of the weekend.

I tested with a .TIFF file, running in batch mode.

Cheers,
David
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Re: tc-recv-client

Robert Moore
 

All else having failed I removed the EKU, blew it to remove any dust, re-seated it in its socket and rebooted the receiver PC. So far so good - normal reception resumed.

Robert

Re: MapToGeo

Ferdinand Valk
 

David,

Try as I might I can't get the proper remap out of MapToGeo for Goes-15.
The generated background-msg1-goes_w.bmp is totally off.
Just to make sure:
- using v2.0.5.54, registered version
- opening plate carree full world image
- Remap to MSG1-GOES_W
- Save to GeoSatSignal directory as background-msg1-goes_w.bmp (Old
version previously deleted)

Unless my seniority plays tricks on me, the remap is centered far west of
the
intended location.
I also do not see a change in the non-WMO mapping for Goes-17.

I really hope it is something simple.
===================================

I'll take a look Ferdinand, but I'm busy for much of the weekend.

I tested with a .TIFF file, running in batch mode.

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Thanks David, I tried png and jpg and no batch. Will give the tiff/batch
option a go.

Cheers,
Ferdinand

Re: tc-recv-client

David J Taylor
 

From: Robert Moore

All else having failed I removed the EKU, blew it to remove any dust, re-seated it in its socket and rebooted the receiver PC. So far so good - normal reception resumed.

Robert
=============================

Good to know you are back up and running, Robert. Checking the eToken properties is part of the standard install process, so it might be worth reviewing that.

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Re: tc-recv-client

Robert Moore
 

Everything still running (though METOP-A is finding it hard to keep up). Of all the things that could go wrong, dust in the EKU seems the most unlikely! But the EKU had been in place since year dot.

Robert

new decline will snr?

Stefano Mina
 

From this morning I see with other reference stations in Europe the fall of snr of 0.4db

Greetings
Stephen

Receiving tellicast

Hugo
 

Hello,

I did some tests receiving all the files, that I am allowed to receive,  from BAS, HVS-1 and HVS-2 on one 2 TByte disk on a Linux system (without a RAM disk). 
The receiving system has a Pentium CPU G3220 @ 3.00GHz and 8 GByte RAM. At the same time I run my EumetcastWatcher on the system. The cpu-usage is about 8% and memory usage is 11%.
I don't have any missing files since this morning.
So it's possible to receive all three services on a very modest Linux system.

Kind regards,
Hugo
  

Re: new decline will snr?

francis.greaves
 

My signal dropped so badly I am hardly receiving anything at the moment. Most files missing here is a short extract from the log.

WRN:2018-11-08 13:42:09.632:Failed to open data channel `EUMETSAT Data Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:5015: No data received from sender
MSG:2018-11-08 13:42:09.633:Disconnect from data channel `EUMETSAT Data Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:5015 completed (channel lost)

It is really annoying!!
Francis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefano Mina via Groups.Io" <stefanomina=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 8 November, 2018 12:20:41 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] new decline will snr?




From this morning I see with other reference stations in Europe the fall of snr of 0.4db

Greetings
Stephen

Re: new decline will snr?

francis.greaves
 

I should have said I am in the far south west of Ireland, on the edge of reception, and my drop is 2.5dB
as seen here http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-europe_link_margin.php
Francis

----- Original Message -----
From: "francis.greaves" <francis@...>
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 8 November, 2018 1:43:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] new decline will snr?

My signal dropped so badly I am hardly receiving anything at the moment. Most files missing here is a short extract from the log.

WRN:2018-11-08 13:42:09.632:Failed to open data channel `EUMETSAT Data Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:5015: No data received from sender
MSG:2018-11-08 13:42:09.633:Disconnect from data channel `EUMETSAT Data Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:5015 completed (channel lost)

It is really annoying!!
Francis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefano Mina via Groups.Io" <stefanomina=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: MSG-1@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 8 November, 2018 12:20:41 PM
Subject: [MSG-1] new decline will snr?




From this morning I see with other reference stations in Europe the fall of snr of 0.4db

Greetings
Stephen

Re: Receiving tellicast

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Hugo,

Could you please give some more details of your tests under GNU/Linux:

1) How many Files/Bytes do you receive per day and service when you take "all"?
(You can use my TClogSummary to extract that from your ("normal") TC log files)

2) Could you post the specs of your 2TB HD (hdparm -ItT /dev/sdb > HD-Specs.txt)?

3) Can you work with EUMETCastView reading the files from your receiver over
the network (maybe even making movies) whithout producing missed packets?

That's probably your 2 core processor:
https://ark.intel.com/products/77773/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G3220-3M-Cache-3-00-GHz-

My 2 core processors are twice as old (-:
https://ark.intel.com/products/35605/Intel-Core-2-Duo-Processor-E8600-6M-Cache-3-33-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB-

My systems have 8GB RAM as well but I use a 3GB RAM Disk. Problems normally
arrise a soon as you have other intensive disk activity (even things like du
or find can harm). That was my reason for using RAM-Disks. My systems used
to produce dayly RSS films gathering files from one day and producing *.jpg
with xrit2pic_cmd. My more recent amd64 systems do OLCI image processing using
SNAP 4.0 and export the rest of the files via NFS. I also stopped using find
for dayly house keeping of local disk space but use your YYYY/MM/DD structure.
I can compile the TBS drivers with "make -j2" whithout disturbing reception.

Cheers,
Ernst

Re: new decline will snr?

David J Taylor
 

From: francis.greaves

I should have said I am in the far south west of Ireland, on the edge of reception, and my drop is 2.5dB
as seen here http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_eumetcast-europe_link_margin.php
Francis
===========================

Folks,

I did report this yesterday informally, but do please send in your reports to ops@... as this loss is continuing. Last time it was an out-of-spec signal from an adjacent satellite. This one looks especially serious towards the west of the nominal coverage - perhaps the last was too (early in October).

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Re: tc-recv-client

David J Taylor
 

From: Robert Moore

Everything still running (though METOP-A is finding it hard to keep up). Of all the things that could go wrong, dust in the EKU seems the most unlikely! But the EKU had been in place since year dot.

Robert
====================================

Robert,

"Rusty" contacts, perhaps. It's often recommended to remove and replug where possible items within a PC (while it's switched off!) during routine cleaning. The movement of the connector scrapes the contacts clean, removing any slight corrosion. You are near the sea, after all!

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Re: new decline will snr?

David J Taylor
 

My signal dropped so badly I am hardly receiving anything at the moment. Most files missing here is a short extract from the log.

WRN:2018-11-08 13:42:09.632:Failed to open data channel `EUMETSAT Data Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:5015: No data received from sender
MSG:2018-11-08 13:42:09.633:Disconnect from data channel `EUMETSAT Data Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:5015 completed (channel lost)

It is really annoying!!
Francis
=============================================

Francis,

If you have the HVS-1 MODCOD enabled on your SR-1 you would get better BS reception by disabling it temporarily.

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Ayecka/Next-steps.html#modcod

If you're not taking HVS-1 at all, disable it permanently. Likely you've already done this, of course!

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Re: new decline will snr?

francis.greaves
 

Francis,

If you have the HVS-1 MODCOD enabled on your SR-1 you would get better BS
reception by disabling it temporarily.

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Ayecka/Next-steps.html#modcod

If you're not taking HVS-1 at all, disable it permanently. Likely you've
already done this, of course!

Cheers,
David

David you are a star! MODCOD was enabled as both, so I hope that will help.
I have sent a message to Ops as well.
Regards
Francis

Re: new decline will snr?

David J Taylor
 

David you are a star! MODCOD was enabled as both, so I hope that will help.
I have sent a message to Ops as well.
Regards
Francis
===========================

I try to shine occasionally!

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Re: Receiving tellicast

Hugo
 

Hi Ernst,

Sorry for the late reply but I wasn't at home yesterday afternoon.
I included the specs from my hard disk. I never used a RAM drive for receiving tellicast files except in the beginning when I used an internal DVB tuner.
Now I use two Ayecka SR1's. 
I can work with EUMETCastView over the network without any problems. Never experienced missed packets because I download segments over the network.
In EUMETCastView I can see immediately when segments are missing.
I understand that you use an internal DVB-S receiver. I suppose this demands more from a system than an external receiver like the SR1. 
Later today I will try out your script to know exactly how many bytes(files) that I receive.

Kind regards,
Hugo

Re: new decline will snr?

nigel
 

On 09/11/2018 12:07, francis.greaves wrote:
Francis,

If you have the HVS-1 MODCOD enabled on your SR-1 you would get better BS
reception by disabling it temporarily.

http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/Ayecka/Next-steps.html#modcod

If you're not taking HVS-1 at all, disable it permanently. Likely you've
already done this, of course!

Cheers,
David

David you are a star! MODCOD was enabled as both, so I hope that will help.
I have sent a message to Ops as well.
Regards
Francis

Apologies for jumping into this thread but I want to second Francis's comment - you surely are a star David! The link on your web site, you gave above, had the solution to my problem - particularly your comment under the heading "Select dual-mode operation, stops channel switching" :-

"After configuring HVS, I found that the operation mode must be "Single" for HVS to work.  I recall some discussion about this in the past, but can't now find my notes."

I had been struggling to understand why the HVS-1 service wouldn't start receiving the Announcement Channel, on my Windows 7 machine (which uses the Ayecka SR1), whereas it is running fine on my Linux machine, using the TBS 6903 - both being fed from the same (dual output) LNB

As soon as I changed the SR1 Operation Mode to Single, it came to life !

Might be worth highlighting that requirement, David, when you have the time?

Thanks again,

Regards

Nigel

Re: Receiving tellicast

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Hugo,

I only used an SR1 in the transition phase DVB-S -> DVB-S2 as a pilot
user for EUMETSAT. Your HDD performance seems rather moderate but you
have a good point saying that the GNU/Linux DVB subsystem might be a
source of problems in itself. An SR1 e.g. offloads PID filtering and
IP packet assembling which my receivers have to do in the kernel. With
all 3 Eumetcast Services you even use 2 SR1 to offload that work. We
also had the issue of DMA buffer latency introduced by PCIe bridges
of internal DVB cards that only surfaced in the HVS-2 test phase. And
of course DVB cards are only as good as the drivers you get for them.

On the other hand you need 2 SR1 + 2 PSU + 2 LNB cables (or 1 cable
+ 1 splitter) + 2 additional Data NICs + 2 EdiMax or similar for SR1
Administration (?) where I just need 1 single LNB cable + 1 TBS-6903.
This has also been a question of the price tag that you can afford.

The SR1 is based on the STV0900AAC demodulator chip which is two
generations back of the STid135 where first DVB cards surface now.
Newtec uses this chip too. If somebody will produce an affordable
router around an STid135 (*I doubt it*) that will be my next buy.


Best regards,
Ernst

 

Re: new decline will snr?

Ernst Lobsiger
 

Nigel,

The SR1 is based on the STV0900AAC chip which is a dual channel
demodulator. That's why you have 2 LNB sockets and 2 tuners for
reception of 2 satellites when the demodulatot is set to dual mode.
The problem is that it cannot receive 16APSK (HVS-1, HVS-2) in
dual mode. Both channels have to be "tied together" in single
mode to receive the full transponder 1 with 8PSK + 16APSK VCM.

Your TBS-6903 is built around the more advanced STV0910ADB chip
which is a dual channel demodulator that can receive up to 32APSK
and do VCM in each channel. That's why you can receive T1 + T2
(Basic + HVS-1 + HVS-2) with one single card while you need two SR1.
The GNU/Linux driver also let you run the TBS-6903 in single mode
which doubles the possible maximum reception bitrate (not needed!).


Regards,
Ernst

 

Re: new decline will snr?

David J Taylor
 

Apologies for jumping into this thread but I want to second Francis's
comment - you surely are a star David! The link on your web site, you
gave above, had the solution to my problem - particularly your comment
under the heading "Select dual-mode operation, stops channel switching" :-

"After configuring HVS, I found that the operation mode must be "Single"
for HVS to work. I recall some discussion about this in the past, but
can't now find my notes."

I had been struggling to understand why the HVS-1 service wouldn't start
receiving the Announcement Channel, on my Windows 7 machine (which uses
the Ayecka SR1), whereas it is running fine on my Linux machine, using
the TBS 6903 - both being fed from the same (dual output) LNB

As soon as I changed the SR1 Operation Mode to Single, it came to life !

Might be worth highlighting that requirement, David, when you have the time?

Thanks again,

Regards

Nigel
=======================================

Great that it's now working, Nigel.

I've updated the Web page paragraph, putting the requirement in bold! I've also noted that on the lower-cost SR1s that menu won't even be visible, as the dual-mode operation is not compatible with either EUMETCast HVS-1 or HVS-2.
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